J*, I know you are young but haven't you heard of Exposition Park, located where 3 Rivers Stadium was? J* At 02:07 PM 11/7/2001, you wrote: >Pittsburgh was the first city in the world to do a lot of neat things! >Here are a few of the most well-known. > >First Heart, Liver, Kidney Transplant - December 3, 1989 >The first simultaneous heart, liver and kidney transplant was done at >Presbyterian-University Hospital. > >The First Internet Emoticon - 1980 >The Smiley :-) was the first Internet emoticon, created in 1980 by >Carnegie Mellon University computer scientist Scott Fahlman. > >First Robotics Institute - 1979 >The Robotics Institute at Carnegie Mellon University was established in 1979 >to conduct basic and applied research in robotics technologies relevant to >industrial and societal tasks. > >First Mr. Yuk Sticker - 1971 >Mr. Yuk was created at the Poison Center at Children's Hospital of >Pittsburgh after research indicated that the skull and crossbones previously >used to identify poisons had little meaning to the children of today (for >most children it means exciting things like pirates and adventure). >Covering 27 counties and 33 percent of Pennsylvania's population, the >Pittsburgh Poison Center at Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh is the largest >such center in the United States. > >First Night World Series Game - 1971 >Game 4 of the 1971 World Series was the first night game in Series history. >Pittsburgh tied the series in that game with a 4-3 win and went on to win >the series, 4 games to 3. This was one of the last big moments in the career >of well-loved Pirate, Roberto Clemente. Fourteen and a half months after the >1971 World Series, he died in a plane crash off the coast of his native >Puerto Rico as he attempted to take food, clothing and medical supplies to >earthquake victims in Nicaragua. > >First Big Mac - 1967 >Created by Jim Delligatti at his Uniontown McDonald's, the Big Mac debuted >and was test marketed in three other Pittsburgh-area McDonald's restaurants >in 1967. By 1968 it was a mainstay on McDonald's menus throughout the >country and, eventually, the world. > >First Pull-Tab on Cans - 1962 >The pull-tab was developed by Alcoa and was first used by Iron City Brewery >in 1962. For many years, pull-tabs were only used in this area. > >First Retractable Dome - September 1961 >Pittsburgh's Civic Arena boasts the world's first auditorium with a >retractable roof. > >First U.S. Public Television Station - WQED - April 1, 1954 >WQED, operated by the Metropolitan Pittsburgh Educational Station, was the >first community-sponsored educational television station in America and was >also the first to telecast classes to elementary schools (1955). > >First Polio Vaccine - March 26, 1953 >The polio vaccine was developed by Dr. Jonas E. Salk, a 38-year-old >University of Pittsburgh researcher and professor, and his staff at the >University of Pittsburgh. > >First All-Aluminum Building - ALCOA - August 1953 >The first aluminum-faced skyscraper was the Alcoa Building, a 30-story, 410 >foot structure with thin stamped aluminum panels forming the exterior walls. > >First Zippo Lighter - 1932 >George G. Blaisdell invented the Zippo lighter in 1932 in Bradford, >Pennsylvania. You can even find the name of the manufacturing location, >either Bradford or Niagara Falls, Canada, stamped on the bottom of every >Zippo lighter. The name Zippo was chosen by Blaisdell because he liked the >sound of the word "zipper" - which was patented around the >same time in nearby Meadville, PA. > >First Bingo Game - early 1920's >Hugh J. Ward first came up with the concept of bingo in Pittsburgh and began >running the game at carnivals in the early 1920s, taking it nation- wide in >1924. He secured a copyright on the game and wrote a book of Bingo rules in >1933. > >First U.S. Commercial Radio Station - KDKA - November 2, 1920 >Dr. Frank Conrad, assistant chief engineer of Westinghouse Electric, first >constructed a transmitter and installed it in a garage near his home in >Wilkinsburg in 1916. The station was licensed as 8XK. At 6 p.m. on Nov. 2, >1920, 8KX became KDKA Radio and began broadcasting at 100 watts from a >makeshift shack atop one of the Westinghouse manufacturing buildings in East >Pittsburgh. > >The First Gas Station - December, 1913 >In 1913 the first automobile service station, built by Gulf Refining >Company, opened in Pittsburgh at Baum Boulevard and St. Clair Street in East >Liberty. It was designed by J. H. Giesey. > >The First Baseball Stadium in the U.S. - 1909 >In 1909 the first baseball stadium, Forbes Field, was built in Pittsburgh, >followed soon by similar stadiums in Chicago,Cleveland,Boston, and New >York. Forbes Field closed in 1970 when Three Rivers Stadium opened. PNC >Park is the newest replacement with opening set for 2001. > >First Motion Picture Theater - 1905 >The first theater in the world devoted to the exhibition of motion pictures >was the "Nickelodeon," opened by Harry Davis on Smithfield Street in >Pittsburgh. > >First Banana Split - 1904 >The banana split was invented by Dr. David Strickler, a pharmacist, at >Strickler's Drug Store in Latrobe, Pennsylvania. > >The First World Series - 1903 >The Boston Pilgrims defeated the Pittsburgh Pirates five games to three in >baseball's first modern World Series in 1903. The Pirates lost the final >game 4-3, before a crowd of 7,455 in Boston. Four of the series' games were >played in Pittsburgh. > >First Ferris Wheel - 1892/1893 >The first Ferris Wheel, invented by Pittsburgh native and civil engineer, >George Washington Gale Ferris (1859-1896) was in operation at the World's >Fair (Columbian Exposition) in Chicago. It was over 264 feet high and was >capable of carrying more than 2,000 passengers at a time. > >Long-Distance Electricity - 1885 >Westinghouse Electric developed alternating current, allowing long-distance >transmission of electricity for the first time. > >First Air Brake - 1869 >The first practical air brake for railroads was invented by George >Westinghouse in the 1860s and patented in 1869. In the same year he >organized the Westinghouse Air Brake Company. With additional automatic >features incorporated into its design, the air brake became widely accepted, >and the Railroad Safety Appliance Act of 1893 made air brakes >compulsory on all American trains. > > > >--- > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.295 / Virus Database: 159 - Release Date: 11/1/2001 > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, >Palm-Gen, and Westie > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237

Listers, I discovered 2 new streets today and something else, something that I never heard of. I had 26 cars on fire today in Battaglia's Wrecking Yard on W. Carson St today. The street leading to the office is Musk Way and Musk Way is one end of Riverside St, a street that doesn't appear on any map that I have. While talking to the owner of Hunt's Stained Glass Studio, he informed me that the street was named Riverside because there was a high school on that location named, you guessed it, "Riverside High"! I had never heard of it. His information was re-iterated by Butch Battaglia whose father owns the wrecking yard. According to both gentlemen, Riverside High School existed up to some time in the 1930s! Has anyone ever heard of this school or have any info? Al

I, too, have an aunt that was a school teacher and may have very well worked at the Minersville School. I believe it would've been a bit north of what is known today as Schenley Heights and near Herron Hill- close to Shadyside. These areas are slightly north of the University of Pittsburgh on a map.

Rural and Euclid intersect in East Liberty. Rural runs parallel to Penn Ave. and Euclid is parallel to Negley and Highland. There is no school there now. I can't remember there ever being a school there. Peabody High School is a couple blocks away on East Liberty Blvd. This area is radically different from what it was even in the 1950s. It was redeveloped by the city. Rosanne

I saw this message - you stirrin' up trouble, again, Sue? ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue M To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:42 PM Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Minersville, Rose, and Riverside Schools Al, Tell her that they're going to be closed, even if they aren't. Marilyn was supposed to visit here last month and had to cancel plans, so she 'owes' me a visit. Sue* ----- Original Message ----- > Al, > Are there plans to close the tunnels? > When I was back in Pittsburgh a few years ago for the first time in about 35 years, the ride through the tunnels brought back more childhood memories than most anywhere else I went. If there are plans to close them, I need to make another trip back there before that's done! > Thanks. > Marilyn G., So. Calif. --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.295 / Virus Database: 159 - Release Date: 11/1/2001 ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, Palm-Gen, and Westie ============================== Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.295 / Virus Database: 159 - Release Date: 11/1/01

Pittsburgh was the first city in the world to do a lot of neat things! Here are a few of the most well-known. First Heart, Liver, Kidney Transplant - December 3, 1989 The first simultaneous heart, liver and kidney transplant was done at Presbyterian-University Hospital. The First Internet Emoticon - 1980 The Smiley :-) was the first Internet emoticon, created in 1980 by Carnegie Mellon University computer scientist Scott Fahlman. First Robotics Institute - 1979 The Robotics Institute at Carnegie Mellon University was established in 1979 to conduct basic and applied research in robotics technologies relevant to industrial and societal tasks. First Mr. Yuk Sticker - 1971 Mr. Yuk was created at the Poison Center at Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh after research indicated that the skull and crossbones previously used to identify poisons had little meaning to the children of today (for most children it means exciting things like pirates and adventure). Covering 27 counties and 33 percent of Pennsylvania's population, the Pittsburgh Poison Center at Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh is the largest such center in the United States. First Night World Series Game - 1971 Game 4 of the 1971 World Series was the first night game in Series history. Pittsburgh tied the series in that game with a 4-3 win and went on to win the series, 4 games to 3. This was one of the last big moments in the career of well-loved Pirate, Roberto Clemente. Fourteen and a half months after the 1971 World Series, he died in a plane crash off the coast of his native Puerto Rico as he attempted to take food, clothing and medical supplies to earthquake victims in Nicaragua. First Big Mac - 1967 Created by Jim Delligatti at his Uniontown McDonald's, the Big Mac debuted and was test marketed in three other Pittsburgh-area McDonald's restaurants in 1967. By 1968 it was a mainstay on McDonald's menus throughout the country and, eventually, the world. First Pull-Tab on Cans - 1962 The pull-tab was developed by Alcoa and was first used by Iron City Brewery in 1962. For many years, pull-tabs were only used in this area. First Retractable Dome - September 1961 Pittsburgh's Civic Arena boasts the world's first auditorium with a retractable roof. First U.S. Public Television Station - WQED - April 1, 1954 WQED, operated by the Metropolitan Pittsburgh Educational Station, was the first community-sponsored educational television station in America and was also the first to telecast classes to elementary schools (1955). First Polio Vaccine - March 26, 1953 The polio vaccine was developed by Dr. Jonas E. Salk, a 38-year-old University of Pittsburgh researcher and professor, and his staff at the University of Pittsburgh. First All-Aluminum Building - ALCOA - August 1953 The first aluminum-faced skyscraper was the Alcoa Building, a 30-story, 410 foot structure with thin stamped aluminum panels forming the exterior walls. First Zippo Lighter - 1932 George G. Blaisdell invented the Zippo lighter in 1932 in Bradford, Pennsylvania. You can even find the name of the manufacturing location, either Bradford or Niagara Falls, Canada, stamped on the bottom of every Zippo lighter. The name Zippo was chosen by Blaisdell because he liked the sound of the word "zipper" - which was patented around the same time in nearby Meadville, PA. First Bingo Game - early 1920's Hugh J. Ward first came up with the concept of bingo in Pittsburgh and began running the game at carnivals in the early 1920s, taking it nation- wide in 1924. He secured a copyright on the game and wrote a book of Bingo rules in 1933. First U.S. Commercial Radio Station - KDKA - November 2, 1920 Dr. Frank Conrad, assistant chief engineer of Westinghouse Electric, first constructed a transmitter and installed it in a garage near his home in Wilkinsburg in 1916. The station was licensed as 8XK. At 6 p.m. on Nov. 2, 1920, 8KX became KDKA Radio and began broadcasting at 100 watts from a makeshift shack atop one of the Westinghouse manufacturing buildings in East Pittsburgh. The First Gas Station - December, 1913 In 1913 the first automobile service station, built by Gulf Refining Company, opened in Pittsburgh at Baum Boulevard and St. Clair Street in East Liberty. It was designed by J. H. Giesey. The First Baseball Stadium in the U.S. - 1909 In 1909 the first baseball stadium, Forbes Field, was built in Pittsburgh, followed soon by similar stadiums in Chicago,Cleveland,Boston, and New York. Forbes Field closed in 1970 when Three Rivers Stadium opened. PNC Park is the newest replacement with opening set for 2001. First Motion Picture Theater - 1905 The first theater in the world devoted to the exhibition of motion pictures was the "Nickelodeon," opened by Harry Davis on Smithfield Street in Pittsburgh. First Banana Split - 1904 The banana split was invented by Dr. David Strickler, a pharmacist, at Strickler's Drug Store in Latrobe, Pennsylvania. The First World Series - 1903 The Boston Pilgrims defeated the Pittsburgh Pirates five games to three in baseball's first modern World Series in 1903. The Pirates lost the final game 4-3, before a crowd of 7,455 in Boston. Four of the series' games were played in Pittsburgh. First Ferris Wheel - 1892/1893 The first Ferris Wheel, invented by Pittsburgh native and civil engineer, George Washington Gale Ferris (1859-1896) was in operation at the World's Fair (Columbian Exposition) in Chicago. It was over 264 feet high and was capable of carrying more than 2,000 passengers at a time. Long-Distance Electricity - 1885 Westinghouse Electric developed alternating current, allowing long-distance transmission of electricity for the first time. First Air Brake - 1869 The first practical air brake for railroads was invented by George Westinghouse in the 1860s and patented in 1869. In the same year he organized the Westinghouse Air Brake Company. With additional automatic features incorporated into its design, the air brake became widely accepted, and the Railroad Safety Appliance Act of 1893 made air brakes compulsory on all American trains. --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.295 / Virus Database: 159 - Release Date: 11/1/2001

Al, Are there plans to close the tunnels? When I was back in Pittsburgh a few years ago for the first time in about 35 years, the ride through the tunnels brought back more childhood memories than most anywhere else I went. If there are plans to close them, I need to make another trip back there before that's done! Thanks. Marilyn G., So. Calif. ----- Original Message ----- From: Al Lenkner To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 1:11 PM Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Minersville, Rose, and Riverside Schools Bryan, I want to get to that 'thingie' real soon with a camera. PennDot is already underway to straighten out that mess, realigning Route 51 with the West End Bridge. They have some heavy equipment on the west side of S. Main on the banks of Saw Mill Run and the bank supporting the elevated train tracks has been denuded of trees. In a year or two, you won't recognize the area but it's about time. Actually it's probably about 40 years past time. That mess should have been straightened out when they opened the Fort Pitt Tunnels. And it definitely should be done and finished before they shut the Fort Pitt Bridge or Tunnels or they'll have a traffic jam that'll last for years!! I think the planners at PennDot couldn't plan a birthday party! I will have to give them credit for what they did at the south end of the Liberty Tunnels. It's the one thing that they can brag about........... after so many failures! Al At 03:28 PM 11/8/2001, you wrote: >Up on Mt. W? Sweet....I'll have to stop in and see ya sometime...I'm up >that way quite often. Maybe next time I'm up at Prospect. My best friend's >girlfriend lives right behind ST. Mary of the Mount school.... > >OK, I didn't know much about the geography of the West End years ago, so I >had to consult the walking map (Al). Seems like he knows just about >everything.... > >And when I said West End Thingie, I meant the overpass to the Circle and >Bridge....geez, beat me over the head... > >B. ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, Palm-Gen, and Westie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.295 / Virus Database: 159 - Release Date: 11/1/01

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I have a relative that was the Principal of the Minersville School at Rural and Euclid Ave in Pittsburgh about 1890. Could anyone tell me what area of Pittsburgh that was? Thanks Marcia Norton marcianorton@home.com

thanks, all, for the tips. hope we've also answered Lori's questions! I do have to add that last night I did a plain search and it did bring up some heads of household (and corresponding image files) for the earlier census records ancestry has indexed, so I was incorrect in my first statement to Lori that they wouldn't come up. Hope that makes sense! marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: Darleen Berens Yep Marilyn, that is the way I do it also....I think it is about the only way you can find a census page number at the images of census on Ancestry.com that I know of. ----- Original Message ----- From: <SusanE1104@aol.com> > Marilyn, > No, I don't think there's any magic formula. I just start with image one and > see what that number is, and then try to make a good guess as to how far > along the number would be in the images. It sometimes takes quite a few > tries before I find the page I'm looking for. > > Susan > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.292 / Virus Database: 157 - Release Date: 10/26/01

I would be interested to learn when the laws changed. My Wetzel/Whetsel/Whetzel g,g,grandparents were second cousins who were married in 1845, at Brownsville, Fayette Co. This information is mentioned in the Hadden/Jordan book on Fayette Co. History. There is also a well documented Worrell family that goes back to the 1500s in England that frequently had cousin marriages. These people were Quakers. Then there were the so called "royals" of Europe who frequently married their cousins in order to keep the titles and money in the family. Queen Victoria had her children spread all over Europe on thrones of many countries. I believe that some "royals" had mental and genetic problems due to the inbreeding. Marilyn: Lake Co., IL *********************************

Sandy, I checked the CD using various spellings. I did not find any record for LUDWIG WAIBEL. There were other WAIBEL/WABEL records, but none around 1890. Have you tried the Ellis Island web site. It does have some early ships. Your email address did not work Good luck! Terry _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Thanks, Nancy. I've heard some nice things, but have never been there, so where at in the Strip district? Do you have an address? I've heard of that section, but not familiar, though isn't that off the area beyond the bus station downtown? Let me know if I am warm, in the direction, would ya? Why don't the Heinz Museum take the records from the Northside into their place, I wonder? Considering the money to preserve the records, is in the name, there shouldn't be a problem! I pray that some of them can be preserved for future generations! Cathy Raber ----- Original Message ----- From: To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: 11/5/01 3:17:15 PM Subject: [PITTSBURGH] 500,000 photographs at Heinz Pittsburgh Regional History Center Article from Ellen Teller Elletelle@aol.com in MISSING LINKS ************************************************************************* I recently visited the Heinz Pittsburgh Regional History Center and the sixth floor archives for a behind the scenes tour. I was there to see records of glass manufacturers. However, this is a genealogical treasure house. I was amazed to find they have more than 500,000 photographs that document the history of Western Pennsylvania http://www.pghphotos.org/ plus many other records. Reproductions can be ordered. In some cases they have information from nearby states. That elusive photograph of your ancestor might be in the records of the company that your ancestor worked for. Perhaps everyone else knows about this center. It was formerly an ice house and is located in Pittsburgh's Strip District. Just the construction of the building alone was fascinating. The Web site is http://www.pghhistory.org . They are happy to receive all kinds of papers from companies and people who don't know what to do with them but feel that they should be preserved. The Reference Desk (412)454-6364 can also help you find out whether they might have what you want. Ellen Teller Elletelle@aol.com PERMISSION TO REPRINT articles from MISSING LINKS is granted unless specifically stated otherwise, PROVIDED: (1) the reprint is not used for commercial purposes; and (2) this notice appears at the end of the message: Written by [author's name and e-mail address] and published in MISSING LINKS: A Magazine for Genealogists, Vol. 6, No. 43, 4 November 2001. http://www.PetuniaPress.com/ To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE, send e-mail with either SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject line to: missinglinks-request@petuniapress.com ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702 sourceid=1237 --- Cathy Raber --- pigeonrock@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.

Lori, I read your story (below) decided to add my two cents worth! I went to Columbiana County , OH cemetery, where I knew some of my relations were buried, some I had already "found: some years back, but ended up not rediscovering the stones! My, I did find one of my uncles that died a couple years back, by just browsing the cemetery. So there's a "method to the madness" so to speak. Ya never know what you'll find. My grandmas grandparents stones that I had discovered about three years ago, was really getting weathered, even under a tree! Don't forget to take a camera, take as picture! That always is a plus, because if nothing else, you'll have date or two, so you have some information that perhaps you didn't have, without having to check with the office! The day I went to the cemetery office, I never did meet up with the mistress, but not long after I left, my mom did, after we'd left for home! Funny how things worked out, she got the interment records, brought them home to me that day! I wandered around for about two hours! And mom ended up rescuing my kids I from having to walk home, thank goodness, because we were exhausted! Happy hunting, Cathy Raber ----- Original Message ----- From: To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: 11/6/01 11:06:10 AM Subject: [PITTSBURGH] My weekend in Pittsburgh - Long story I don't know if it should be called Accidental Tourist or Weekend at Bernie's. Who knew dead people would be so hard to find. We got out to the 'burgh about 2 Friday afternoon. Using my husband's scant memory (his family is from Pittsburgh), we went searching. First we went to Mt. Calvary. Pat, (husband) thought his aunt was buried here. They were expecting a funeral and weren't sure if they could help us. After explaining we drove in from the other side of the state and couldn't come back Monday they agreed to look in computer. Guess what, not there. It seems in 1960s they only buried Lutherans, we were looking for Catholics. 2. Right up the street was St. Mary's. Not having written done Norm's info, I wasn't sure if it was the right one for the Markey family. We got to the office, hours 9-5 M-F and there was a sign on the door. Hours by appointment only and no one was around. But we did get a beautiful view of the whole city. At this point I was ready to give up. Looked at the map and decided Resurrection looked like it might be a Catholic cemetery. Hit PAYDIRT. The gentleman at the counter was wonderful!!!! When he couldn't find anyone we were looking for at Resurrection he checked Holy Souls and found someone with the McCaffrey surname. He gave me a map and counted out rows so we could find the correct gravesite. We almost missed Holy Souls because we missed the right exit and drove past it on the Parkway. Frustrated I said skip it. My husband, (not into genealogy) said we were going to find a dead person we knew. Going back was worth it, we found my mother in law's long lost father's gravesite. I couldn't believe the luck. I thought he fell off the face of the earth. The thing that really bothered my was that at Holy Souls and St. Philip's in Crafton, they graves were in such a sorry state. Broken tombstones, embedded in the ground. It was really sad. Just wanted to share. I finally found something even if we really had to work for it. Lori ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom ============================== Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 --- Cathy Raber --- pigeonrock@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.

Thanks Terry . . . I've tried the EI site . . . no luck. Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry C" <iamjustducky@hotmail.com> To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 1:30 AM Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Re: PA-PITTSBURGH-D Digest V01 #353 > Sandy, > > I checked the CD using various spellings. I did not find any record for > LUDWIG WAIBEL. There were other WAIBEL/WABEL records, but none around 1890. > > Have you tried the Ellis Island web site. It does have some early ships. > > Your email address did not work > > Good luck! > > Terry > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, Palm-Gen, and Westie > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 >

Susan, If you know the census page number (per another index), do you know how to connect it to the ancestry image number? thx, marilyn g. ----- Original Message ----- From: SusanE1104@aol.com To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Ancestry Census Records - Am I Doing Something Wrong? Lori, You have to look at the page number on the actual census record.....not the image number. It is confusing. The number you are looking for is usually a printed number on the census page. I think different years are different and some pages don't have a number that you can see at all. Sometimes it takes a long time to find the page. I can't wait until they get them all indexed! susan ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.292 / Virus Database: 157 - Release Date: 10/26/01

Rosanne, I wouldn't bet a paycheck on it but my understanding is that you can't marry first cousins. The county doesn't check other than to ask, on the form, if you are related. I wish they did check. It would make our research much easier!! Al At 12:34 AM 11/6/2001, you wrote: >Does anyone know the PA or Allegheny County law about marrying kin? How >close of cousin can one marry? How does the county check when you apply for >a license that you aren't relatives? > >Rosanne > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237

Lori, I haven't tried to match info to the pages, but doing a "plain" search won't provide you with information on the census because only the census records up to 1830 are searchable by head of household. That's the one drawback to this - I end up paging through the whole record of the township my ancestors were in during the previous census, i.e., if an ancestor was in Millvale in 1880, I start paging through those images in 1900. I've spent many hours going through them and finding anyone in Pittsburgh is a nightmare that way. But I have had some success! When I first took out a subscription, they had very few images and none could be searched. Now you can go to the early ones and search on heads of household. I'm not sure, however, how to find particular pages on ancestry - if someone tells me (from an index of another source) my ancestor is on page 1044B, I don't know how to locate it on the ancestry.com images. Hopefully, someone else can help us there. Marilyn G. ----- Original Message ----- From: Markburgh1@aol.com To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 5:02 PM Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Ancestry Census Records - Am I Doing Something Wrong? I broke down and took a quarterly subscription. Using information from previous lookups I know what page an ancestor should be on. But when I look on that page on Ancestry they are not there. I tried running a plain ancestry search on one of these people and nothing comes up. Is it me? Thanks for any help. Lori ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom ============================== Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate your heritage! http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.292 / Virus Database: 157 - Release Date: 10/26/01

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Lori, Great story.....<g>. Sounds like a typical genealogists day.....LOL...Really enjoyed hearing about your weekend in Pitts...... ----- Original Message ----- From: <Markburgh1@aol.com> To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 1:06 PM Subject: [PITTSBURGH] My weekend in Pittsburgh - Long story > I don't know if it should be called Accidental Tourist or Weekend at > Bernie's. > > Who knew dead people would be so hard to find. We got out to the 'burgh > about 2 Friday afternoon. Using my husband's scant memory (his family is from > Pittsburgh), we went searching. First we went to Mt. Calvary. Pat, (husband) > thought his aunt was buried here. They were expecting a funeral and weren't > sure if they could help us. After explaining we drove in from the other side > of the state and couldn't come back Monday they agreed to look in computer. > Guess what, not there. It seems in 1960s they only buried Lutherans, we were > looking for Catholics. > > 2. Right up the street was St. Mary's. Not having written done Norm's info, I > wasn't sure if it was the right one for the Markey family. We got to the > office, hours 9-5 M-F and there was a sign on the door. Hours by appointment > only and no one was around. But we did get a beautiful view of the whole > city. At this point I was ready to give up. > > Looked at the map and decided Resurrection looked like it might be a Catholic > cemetery. Hit PAYDIRT. The gentleman at the counter was wonderful!!!! When > he couldn't find anyone we were looking for at Resurrection he checked Holy > Souls and found someone with the McCaffrey surname. He gave me a map and > counted out rows so we could find the correct gravesite. We almost missed > Holy Souls because we missed the right exit and drove past it on the Parkway. > Frustrated I said skip it. My husband, (not into genealogy) said we were > going to find a dead person we knew. Going back was worth it, we found my > mother in law's long lost father's gravesite. I couldn't believe the luck. I > thought he fell off the face of the earth. > > The thing that really bothered my was that at Holy Souls and St. Philip's in > Crafton, they graves were in such a sorry state. Broken tombstones, embedded > in the ground. It was really sad. > > Just wanted to share. I finally found something even if we really had to work > for it. > > Lori > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 >