The Riddles are part of the family of Conrad and Margaret Sylvis that I've been working on. They are cousins of my mother's. I'm just trying to collect info about this family. My mother's sister , Olive Stubbins, taught school in Mt Lebanan. Is that part of the Pittsburgh school system? Marcia Norton

I don't know.....they probably would, but I'm not sure about the privacy laws....what specifically are you looking for? Are they ancestors of yours, or former teachers that you had, or what? I don't know what the policy is on that sort of thing. Bryan. -----Original Message----- From: Marcia Norton [mailto:marcianorton@home.com] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 9:50 AM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Liberty School Bryan, Would the Pittsburgh Board of Education also have information about teachers. I'm looking for info about Elizabeth Riddle and Charles A. Riddle. ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237

Bryan, is this the address I'd use to find record of my aunt who taught in a Pgh. public school in early 1900's? School name unknown. Thanks, Carol S. > Pittsburgh Board of Education > Office of Technology > Room 355 > 341 S. Bellefield Ave. > Pittsburgh, PA 15213 >

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Fred (Or Mac, whichever you prefer), >From the info that I found, Langley HS opened in April, 1923. Without knowing, historically, what other high schools were in the area, I can't honestly tell you where she may have gone to school at. But she would have been 18 in 1920, and that was 3 years before Langley opened, so I think that's a definate negative. You might try requesting her records from Riverside, here at the board....that's MY best guess (and only a guess). WHo knows, you might get lucky. Bryan. -----Original Message----- From: Fred C McCutcheon [mailto:fredcmcc@usaor.net] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 6:16 PM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Minersville, Rose, and Riverside Schools Al, I am interested in Riverside HS also. My mother, Ame Mallasee b 5 Apr 1902 went to Thaddeus Stevens in the West End. Where would she have gone to HS? Mac ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. ============================== Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history learning and how-to articles on the Internet. http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

> What I would like to know is if there are directories for 1908 and a few years before which might give addresses for him?< Ed, absolutely you should check the city directories for addresses of your ancestors! (They go at least back to the 1850s, all on microfilm.) When I couldn't find my ancestors in Cincinnati census records because they mutilated the name spellings, I resorted to looking up the street address itself in the census reports, taken from the city directories. Viola - I found everyone living right where I knew they had to be - with names misspelled almost beyond recognition. My Pittsburgh ancestors lived in the German area of Spring Garden and Troy Hill, and the city directories show them with seven different addresses over a ten year period, all within close proximity of each other. You will find the communities you listed for your ancestors all within reach of each other (Avalon, Bellevue, Ben Avon). Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Sinker" <e.sinker@btinternet.com> To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 11:28 PM Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Pittsburgh Directories > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > >

No, I think it still does say Liberty Tubes....I'll be out that way sometime this weekend, I think, so I'll check for ya... B. -----Original Message----- From: Carol S. [mailto:aceso225@flash.net] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 11:34 PM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Minersville, Rose, and Riverside Schools I have a dim memory (1930's) the Liberty Tunnels had the name Liberty Tubes above the entrance. Correct? or am I fantisizing? Carol S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Lenkner" <alenkner@stargate.net> To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 2:11 PM Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Minersville, Rose, and Riverside Schools > Bryan, > > I want to get to that 'thingie' real soon with a camera. PennDot is > already underway to straighten out that mess, realigning Route 51 with the > West End Bridge. They have some heavy equipment on the west side of S. > Main on the banks of Saw Mill Run and the bank supporting the elevated > train tracks has been denuded of trees. In a year or two, you won't > recognize the area but it's about time. Actually it's probably about 40 > years past time. That mess should have been straightened out when they > opened the Fort Pitt Tunnels. > And it definitely should be done and finished before they shut the Fort > Pitt Bridge or Tunnels or they'll have a traffic jam that'll last for > years!! I think the planners at PennDot couldn't plan a birthday party! I > will have to give them credit for what they did at the south end of the > Liberty Tunnels. It's the one thing that they can brag about........... > after so many failures! > > Al > > > > At 03:28 PM 11/8/2001, you wrote: > >Up on Mt. W? Sweet....I'll have to stop in and see ya sometime...I'm up > >that way quite often. Maybe next time I'm up at Prospect. My best friend's > >girlfriend lives right behind ST. Mary of the Mount school.... > > > >OK, I didn't know much about the geography of the West End years ago, so I > >had to consult the walking map (Al). Seems like he knows just about > >everything.... > > > >And when I said West End Thingie, I meant the overpass to the Circle and > >Bridge....geez, beat me over the head... > > > >B. > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, Palm-Gen, and Westie > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, Palm-Gen, and Westie ============================== Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history learning and how-to articles on the Internet. http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

Bryan, Would the Pittsburgh Board of Education also have information about teachers. I'm looking for info about Elizabeth Riddle and Charles A. Riddle.

Well, if he asks nicely, I just might : ) Acutally, Al, you took the words right out of my mouth. I think there is a list over there about what schools were opened and when they opened and/or closed. I will look into it today or Monday.... Mac, Send me an off-list e-mail to remind me to check into this, please? Otherwise I'll forget. Bryan. -----Original Message----- From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 10:58 PM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Minersville, Rose, and Riverside Schools Mac, I can't answer that one without knowing when Langley High School was built. Figuring that your mother entered high school probably in 1915/16, she probably went to Langley. Where did she live when she went to Thaddeus Stevens? My understanding is that Thaddeus Stevens took in the kids that went to Shalerville's school. Thaddeus Stevens supposedly was built to replace that old derelict that they just tore down behind Engine 30. That thing was an enormous eye sore. If you can get Bryan to check when Langley was built and if your mother lived in Elliott, then she probably went to Langley IF Langley was open. Al At 06:15 PM 11/8/2001, you wrote: >Al, > I am interested in Riverside HS also. My mother, Ame Mallasee b 5 Apr >1902 went to Thaddeus Stevens in the West End. Where would she have gone >to HS? Mac > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > >============================== >Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history >learning and how-to articles on the Internet. >http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237

OK, no fee, but you do have to send a written, signed request with your ancester's birth dates, names when they attended school, what school they attended, if they attended a high school, what year they graduated. Normally you would send that to Linda Gerba here at the board, but I believe you can now send it to Pittsburgh Board of Education Office of Technology Room 355 341 S. Bellefield Ave. Pittsburgh, PA 15213 I do not do this research, I work in the Finance Dept. I used to work in technology, which is why I know this stuff : ) Bryan. -----Original Message----- From: Edward L. Smith [mailto:els837@frontiernet.net] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:41 PM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Minersville, Rose, and Riverside Schools Thanks, Bryan. Now, could you tell us how to get records from these schools. My Griffith family lived at the intersection of Reed and Kirkpatrick Streets, about a block from Minersville School. Are the records available, for what years, and how would one request a search and/or copy? What is the fee? Edward Smith "Szafranski, Bryan" wrote: > OK, a not to all, I work at the Board of Education, and when I saw the posts > regarding Minersville and Riverside Schools, I did a little checking. > > Minersville School was located at Center Ave. and Morgan St. and was closed > in September, 1942. I do not have a date as to when it opened. The > information I found showed that it was combined with Rose Elementary School. > > Rose Elementary School was located on Rose and Charles Sts. and was closed > in June of 1942. Again, I do not have a date as to when it opened. It was > combined with Minersville School. I do not know if all the students were > transferred to Minersville School, or to a different/new school. Will look > for that information, but it may not be available. > > Riverside High School was located at 1740 W. Carson St., as Al has said. It > openend in 1910, but I do not have any information as to when it closed or > where the students went. > > Bryan. > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, Palm-Gen, and Westie > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom ============================== Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

Yes, there is, and it's exact address is 601 Filbert Street, 15232. If I remember correctly (haven't been there in a while) it's right off of Negley Ave, in Shadyside area. Bryan/ -----Original Message----- From: Marcia Norton [mailto:marcianorton@home.com] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 4:50 PM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Liberty School I have another school question. Is there a Liberty School in Pittsburgh and if so where is or was it? I have a relative that taught at this school in 1940. Marcia Norton marcianorton@home.com ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, Palm-Gen, and Westie ============================== Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2

I know what it's like down there, I'm over that way all the time (shopping at Parkway Center or at Shop-n-Save on Noblestown)...Thank Gawd they're finally doing something about that....now, if they could just fix Carson between 1st and 4th streets during rush hour.....but that's probably hoping for too much... Bryan. -----Original Message----- From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 4:11 PM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Minersville, Rose, and Riverside Schools Bryan, I want to get to that 'thingie' real soon with a camera. PennDot is already underway to straighten out that mess, realigning Route 51 with the West End Bridge. They have some heavy equipment on the west side of S. Main on the banks of Saw Mill Run and the bank supporting the elevated train tracks has been denuded of trees. In a year or two, you won't recognize the area but it's about time. Actually it's probably about 40 years past time. That mess should have been straightened out when they opened the Fort Pitt Tunnels. And it definitely should be done and finished before they shut the Fort Pitt Bridge or Tunnels or they'll have a traffic jam that'll last for years!! I think the planners at PennDot couldn't plan a birthday party! I will have to give them credit for what they did at the south end of the Liberty Tunnels. It's the one thing that they can brag about........... after so many failures! Al At 03:28 PM 11/8/2001, you wrote: >Up on Mt. W? Sweet....I'll have to stop in and see ya sometime...I'm up >that way quite often. Maybe next time I'm up at Prospect. My best friend's >girlfriend lives right behind ST. Mary of the Mount school.... > >OK, I didn't know much about the geography of the West End years ago, so I >had to consult the walking map (Al). Seems like he knows just about >everything.... > >And when I said West End Thingie, I meant the overpass to the Circle and >Bridge....geez, beat me over the head... > >B. ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, Palm-Gen, and Westie ============================== Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate your heritage! http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

Hi, I only just recently joined this list and have enjoyed the friendly banter. You all seem pretty knowledgeable and so I would like to ask a question or two about where my great-grandfather lived. He died in 1908 and according to his obituaries and another source he lived in Avalon, Bellevue and Church Avenue, Ben Avon I don't know why each source has a different place. I have a map and can see that they are all close to each other along the Ohio river. What I would like to know is if the are directories for 1908 and a few years before which might give addresses for him? Also in the obits he at one time owned a cafe and restaurant called The Club on Masters way and when he died he had offices in the Maeder Building at 435 Fifth Avenue. Has anyone heard of the Maeder Building? I doubt it is there today. - Ed

There is no doubt that local chapters of the Red Cross do important work. I have read that local charities have been suffering from lack of funds due to the National charities receiving the funds for N.Y. I agree with Sandy. The national media appeal by the Red Cross using the N. Y. disaster for donations did lead the public to believe that the money was going directly to the families of the victims of the disaster. It is really a shame that the public wasn't given a chance to make informed choices as to where to donate their money. Maybe the safest way is to give money is to donate to your local homeless shelters and battered women safe houses. Better still, maybe we all need to volunteer some of our time to help those in need. Marilyn; Lake Co., IL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Laurie" <sandylaurie@alltel.net> To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> : Anna, I can see your point of view, but I believe the general public was deceived. The Red Cross, upfront, should have said that all the donations would not go to WTC disaster relief . . . then John Q. Public could decide if he wanted to donate to the Red Cross or another fund that specified all monies would go to NY disaster relief . . . or to the police and firemen's fund directly. Those donating were not given that option. : : Sandy :

She lived in the West End before she got married. She was a Red Cross girl during WW 1, that is how she met my dad. Ggf Lewis W Mallasee lived at 727 Walbridge. Mac

Listers, Some of you may recall that I made negative comments about the Red Cross and United Fund soliciting donations for the victims of New York, Washington and Westmoreland County. I just received this from my cousin Peggy who lives in Kansas. I had heard rumors to this effect but don't watch TV often, save the news. Peggy didn't write this. She just sent it to a few friends and relatives but I thought that it was important that others, who aren't glued to the boob tube, might be warned against further solicitations. This is exactly as received from Peggy but I eliminated the '>' marks for easier reading. Al 911 Donations At the latest count, over 1 billion dollars has been raised by donations of the public in the name of helping firefighters, police and other victims of the 9-11 emergencies in NYC and Washington, DC. There are about 6000 victims. $1,000,000,000 split 6000 ways $167,000 per family of each victim. Less than $3000 per family has actually been given out or allocated by these do-good organizations. As was reported on the O'Reilly Report, organizations like United way have not given any money at all even though they have collected $150 million in the name of the victims. They said that they will "withhold" (keep) 15% of the total monies for their efforts in collecting the money and only pass 85% down to other organizations who will also withhold some percentage of the money for their administrative costs such as salaries, offices, utilities and other operational costs of those charities. SO this crisis is windfall for these organizations. I am outraged at this and asking why my senator and representative don't demand a governmental inquiry and accounting. In my opinion this is a much bigger deal than the few gas stations who have spiked prices immediately following the attacks. Please do your part and start to ask where is the money? Who got it, where, when and why? At the same time that some organizations have become unduly rich over this tragedy, most other philanthropic organizations have become poor and report that they have hardly received any donations since Sept 11th. Rush Limbaugh, Oprah Winfrey, and Bill O'Reilly have said they will stick with this story until all the money is accounted for, but it is clear that it is not going where we had intended it go. PS According to CNN the Red Cross stated that they were no longer going to ask for money for the 9/11 catastrophy...(they have already collected billions of money that people thought were going to the families of the ones that need help so desperately. What they have done is give the ones that can prove hardship money for one months rent or house payment, or other such paltry amounts.etc. PLEASE PASS THIS ON, AS I HAVE, TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE. MAYBE WE WILL GET AN ANSWER FROM SOMEWHERE!

Sue, You damn trouble-maker! I owe you one. I read this message and wondered what the hell was going on! I didn't see any message from Marilyn. Stupidly going forward in time, I see her message to you about stirring things up. Went backward and found her message and then it dawned on me why I have so many letters in my mailbox that I don't recall seeing. Marilyn's in California and I bet her IP is. I get her message at a particular point in time but her message is time-stamped three hours earlier! Now I realize that I'm always going to have to check for mail posted at least 3 hours earlier than local time. I bet that I can dump at least 10% of what I have in my Inbox. Attaway, gal! Al At 06:42 PM 11/8/2001, you wrote: >Al, >Tell her that they're going to be closed, even if they aren't. Marilyn was >supposed to visit here last month and had to cancel plans, so she 'owes' me >a visit. >Sue* >----- Original Message ----- > > Al, > > Are there plans to close the tunnels? > > When I was back in Pittsburgh a few years ago for the first time in about >35 years, the ride through the tunnels brought back more childhood memories >than most anywhere else I went. If there are plans to close them, I need to >make another trip back there before that's done! > > Thanks. > > Marilyn G., So. Calif. > > > >--- > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.295 / Virus Database: 159 - Release Date: 11/1/2001 > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, >Palm-Gen, and Westie > >============================== >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Mac, I can't answer that one without knowing when Langley High School was built. Figuring that your mother entered high school probably in 1915/16, she probably went to Langley. Where did she live when she went to Thaddeus Stevens? My understanding is that Thaddeus Stevens took in the kids that went to Shalerville's school. Thaddeus Stevens supposedly was built to replace that old derelict that they just tore down behind Engine 30. That thing was an enormous eye sore. If you can get Bryan to check when Langley was built and if your mother lived in Elliott, then she probably went to Langley IF Langley was open. Al At 06:15 PM 11/8/2001, you wrote: >Al, > I am interested in Riverside HS also. My mother, Ame Mallasee b 5 Apr >1902 went to Thaddeus Stevens in the West End. Where would she have gone >to HS? Mac > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > >============================== >Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history >learning and how-to articles on the Internet. >http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

Is there anyone on this site who attended a Pittsburgh school with a teacher named Mary Garahan. In later years she was a school principal.? Don't know if it was same school she taught in, or a different one where she was principal. She died 1976, age 94. Probably worked until early 1950's ??

I have a dim memory (1930's) the Liberty Tunnels had the name Liberty Tubes above the entrance. Correct? or am I fantisizing? Carol S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Lenkner" <alenkner@stargate.net> To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 2:11 PM Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Minersville, Rose, and Riverside Schools > Bryan, > > I want to get to that 'thingie' real soon with a camera. PennDot is > already underway to straighten out that mess, realigning Route 51 with the > West End Bridge. They have some heavy equipment on the west side of S. > Main on the banks of Saw Mill Run and the bank supporting the elevated > train tracks has been denuded of trees. In a year or two, you won't > recognize the area but it's about time. Actually it's probably about 40 > years past time. That mess should have been straightened out when they > opened the Fort Pitt Tunnels. > And it definitely should be done and finished before they shut the Fort > Pitt Bridge or Tunnels or they'll have a traffic jam that'll last for > years!! I think the planners at PennDot couldn't plan a birthday party! I > will have to give them credit for what they did at the south end of the > Liberty Tunnels. It's the one thing that they can brag about........... > after so many failures! > > Al > > > > At 03:28 PM 11/8/2001, you wrote: > >Up on Mt. W? Sweet....I'll have to stop in and see ya sometime...I'm up > >that way quite often. Maybe next time I'm up at Prospect. My best friend's > >girlfriend lives right behind ST. Mary of the Mount school.... > > > >OK, I didn't know much about the geography of the West End years ago, so I > >had to consult the walking map (Al). Seems like he knows just about > >everything.... > > > >And when I said West End Thingie, I meant the overpass to the Circle and > >Bridge....geez, beat me over the head... > > > >B. > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, Palm-Gen, and Westie > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >