Hi List! My cousin told me my grandmother was involved in writing a news letter or something like that about the inlisted men in her neighborhood. She lived in Swissvale. Does anyone know of anything like that? Mame searching Schlanger, Campbell, Sample, Craig, Parsons, Keenan, Churchill, Patterson, Husted, Sapp, Cadwallader, Masser, and more.... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Al, want a guided tour? I will be in the area later in Nov.

I agree with both of you all. I tended to want to donate, but to an organization that I knew. Though donating your time is the best, because you can keep informed as to what organizations are doing what you feel is right, you have knowledge, because your informed through the volunteering. My local church has a thrift shop, so I shop there, but know that there is allot of people being helped, because I'm involved in the helping or at least hear about it! Though too, when I had seen an ad in the window for volunteers, not long before 9-11, then the disaster happened, I did want to go volunteer, but decided to stay with what I knew. But then there are other disasters, besides the most famous ones, fires, domestic violence, such, others, natural ones! WE've all become so ungrateful in the US, taking for granted what we have, not thinking of anyone except ourselves, not donating to "our fellow man" as far as that's concerned! But since the major disaster of Sept. 11, our world is becoming more "caring", I for one applaud it! But if you figure on every penny is going to be donated then, your sadly misinformed, but still they could say so during the advertisement too! Us FL people get bombarded for numerous organization wanting donations, but I only do to ones that I feel strongly about, mostly local. Fellow lister. Cathy Raber ----- Original Message ----- From: Cotter, Anna To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: 11/9/01 5:11:31 PM Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] 911 donations What I think is happening is that anyone that donated money at that time is now automatically assumed to have donated for that one event. I will speak for myself I didn't necessarily intend for my money to go to this specific event. I trust that all these organizations will be helping all the families. But unfortunately it's going to take time and the families just can't sit back and "wait" to be contacted. And I agree that it is always better to give money to local chapters where you can see what they are doing for yourself. -----Original Message----- From: Marilyn Prinzing [mailto:marjenp@mindspring.com ] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 5:07 AM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] 911 donations There is no doubt that local chapters of the Red Cross do important work. I have read that local charities have been suffering from lack of funds due to the National charities receiving the funds for N.Y. I agree with Sandy. The national media appeal by the Red Cross using the N. Y. disaster for donations did lead the public to believe that the money was going directly to the families of the victims of the disaster. It is really a shame that the public wasn't given a chance to make informed choices as to where to donate their money. Maybe the safest way is to give money is to donate to your local homeless shelters and battered women safe houses. Better still, maybe we all need to volunteer some of our time to help those in need. Marilyn; Lake Co., IL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Laurie" sandylaurie@alltel.net To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com : Anna, I can see your point of view, but I believe the general public was deceived. The Red Cross, upfront, should have said that all the donations would not go to WTC disaster relief . . . then John Q. Public could decide if he wanted to donate to the Red Cross or another fund that specified all monies would go to NY disaster relief . . . or to the police and firemen's fund directly. Those donating were not given that option. : : Sandy : ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. ============================== Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. ============================== Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702 sourceid=1238 --- Cathy Raber --- pigeonrock@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.

In a message dated 11/09/2001 12:11:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, Anna.Cotter@ca.com writes: > ! I also noticed that the Salvation Army was there. They were giving out > coffee and other drinks to the approximately 100 people there to help. It > was the Salvation Army that called the Red Cross for me. > . But unfortunately it's going to take time and the families just can't sit back and "wait" to be contacted. Since it is close to Veterans Day, I would like to make a plug for the Salvation Army. They don't wait for the family to contact them, they go where they are needed. My father was a W.W.II veteran. He was a very frugal man, cheap. But he gave to the Salvation Army, because they were there at every battle and any where the soldiers needed them. He 3 1/2 years in Europe he never saw the Red Cross. The Red Cross didn't hand out coffee and doughnuts to the troops, the Salvation Army did. I took the two above quotes from the 911 letters of today. I'm glad the lady got help from the Red Cross, but they wouldn't have come if the Salvation Army didn't call them. The Red Cross is waiting to be contacted. People in trouble don't always know who to contact. I sent my money to the Salvation Army, and will continue to put money in the kettles and back it up with a check. They contact the needy. Rosanne

Never heard of it! I think that I was suffering from senility at the time. Do you know how that name came about? Al At 10:10 PM 11/9/2001, you wrote: >Last Admiral Lenkner, HRH, > Answer this young lady please. You were there at that time !! The > only >Slabtown that I know of was a very old name for Grove City. Mac > > >Marcia Norton wrote: > > > > Could someone tell me where Slabtown along the canal would have been in > 1830. I wondered if it was part of Allegheny City. > > Marcia > > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > > How to unsubscribe. Send a message > to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com that contains ONLY the word, > 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > >============================== >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Mac, You know that I use the same tool as you but I didn't need it for this one. I've had several fires on Irwin Ave, if that's the street you are talking about. Actually Cal-Kirkbride is more fun!! The locals are always happy to set somebody's house on fire for little or no reason save boredom!! Irwin St? Well, if it's street, then I'll have to dig that one out. Wish I was an admiral. They have a better pension than FFs. Al At 10:00 PM 11/9/2001, you wrote: >Last Admiral Lenkner, HRH, > Do not get nasty !!! My father was an Allegheny Rat, born in fact > at 47 >Irwin Street. (Find that one if you can !!!) Ginnie6125 will help you >if you need it !!!! Mac > >Al Lenkner wrote: > > > > Mac, > > > > That would explain your disposition. Your dad was a damn mountain > > goat!! Your mother, being a genteel gal, probably lived on the other side > > of Herschel or Steuben. > > > > Al > > > > At 12:23 AM 11/9/2001, you wrote: > > >She lived in the West End before she got married. She was a Red Cross > > >girl during WW 1, that is how she met my dad. Ggf Lewis W Mallasee > > >lived at 727 Walbridge. Mac > > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > > How to unsubscribe. Send a message > to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com that contains ONLY the word, > 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > > > > ============================== > > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, >Palm-Gen, and Westie > >============================== >Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! >http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2

Barb, You are on the wrong end of the South Side. Bryan was talking about South 1st St to South 4th. I do agree with you. South Side is a real pain, ESPECIALLY on Friday and Saturday nights!! It seems like the whole county is bar hopping on Carson. Al At 08:11 PM 11/9/2001, you wrote: >Hi Bryan >I agree with you about Carson St. What a mess it is. I thought since J&L >was torn down the traffic would ease a bit but it hasn't. So many one way >streets it drives you nuts. >Barb > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, >Palm-Gen, and Westie > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237

Very nice and true. Al At 02:21 PM 11/9/2001, you wrote: > > > LEST WE FORGET > > > > > > He was getting old and paunchy and his hair was falling fast > > > And he sat around the Legion telling stories of the past. > > > Of a war that he fought in and the deeds that he had done, > > > In his exploits with his buddies ; they were heroes, everyone. > > > > > > And tho' sometimes to his neighbours, his tales became a joke, > > > All his Legion buddies listened, for they knew whereof he spoke. > > > But we'll hear his tales no longer, for old Bill has passed away > > > And the world's a little poorer, for a soldier died today. > > > > > > He well not be mourned by many, just his children and his wife, > > > For he lived an ordinary quiet and unevenful life, > > > Held a job and raised a family, quietly going his own way; > > > And the world won,t note his passing, 'tho a soldier died today. > > > > > > When politicians leave this earth, there bodies lie in state, > > > While thousands note there passing and proclaim that they are great, > > > Papers tell there life stories from the time that they are young, > > > But the passing of a soldier goes unnoticed and unsung. > > > > > > In the greatest contribution to the welfare of our land > > > A guy who breaks his promises and cons his fellow man ? > > > Or the ordinary fellow who in times of war and strife > > > Goes off to serve his country and offers up his life? > > > > > > A politician's stipend and the style in which he lives > > > Are sometimes disproportionate to service that he gives, > > > While the ordinary soldier, who offers up his all, > > > Is payed off with a medal, and perhaps a pension small. > > > > > > It's so easy to forget them, for it was so long ago > > > That the Old Bill's of out country went to battle, but we knew > > > It was not the politicians, with there compromise and ploys, > > > Who won for us the freedom that our country now enjoys. > > > > > > Should you find yourself in danger with your enemies at hand, > > > Would you want a politician with his ever shifting stand ? > > > Or would you prefer a soldier who has sworn to defend > > > His home, his kin and country and would fight until the end ? > > > > > > He was just a common soldier and his ranks are growing thin > > > But his presence should remind us we may need his like again, > > > For when countries are in conflict then we find the soldier's part > > > Is to clean up all the troubles that the politicians start. > > > > > > If we cannot do him honour while he's here to hear the praise > > > Then at least let's give him homage at the ending of his days, > > > Perhaps just a simple headline in a paper that would say; > > > OUR COUNTRY IS IN MOURNING, FOR A SOLDIED DIED TODAY. >Sue McAlister >http://homepages.about.com/tomssue/mcalisterpainterbickhartfamily/ >PA-PITTSBURGH and PA-WESTMORELAND-HISTORIC list owner >BALLES, ECKER, KELLAWAY, KELLOWAY, MCCALLISTER, MCALLISTER, SKELLY >surname list owner. >Adoption, Mystery, Horror, Stay-At-Home-Moms, Mother's Without Custody, >Nost-TV, Palm-Gen and Westie community lists owner. > > >--- > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.295 / Virus Database: 159 - Release Date: 11/1/2001 > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, >Palm-Gen, and Westie > >============================== >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Ginnie, Wheeling is beautiful. I went to a conference there a few years back - Oglebay resort high up on a hill. Met some really nice people in Wheeling - we did our share of seeing the sights and watching them make some of that beautiful glassware! Marilyn G. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ginnie6125@aol.com To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] guided tour yep, Sue. I am an old Pittsburgher, but my sons are in Wheeling so........thats where I hang my hat when I am up north. ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom ============================== Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.295 / Virus Database: 159 - Release Date: 11/1/01

New Brighton Look in the back of the Pittsburgh Directories for that time period. The publishers put in lots of towns far away, every place they thought they could make a sale. Mac

Last Admiral Lenkner, HRH, Answer this young lady please. You were there at that time !! The only Slabtown that I know of was a very old name for Grove City. Mac Marcia Norton wrote: > > Could someone tell me where Slabtown along the canal would have been in 1830. I wondered if it was part of Allegheny City. > Marcia > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

How do I get my hands on a Pittsburgh directory in TN? Anyone interested in doing some lookups? Two might even be in Pittsburgh. By the way, thanks to everyone for the discussion on Historic Pittsburgh maps. I wouldn't have thought to look at those, but found my gg grandfather's house in the Strip Distrist 1872. Not being from Pittsburgh, I didn't even know where the Strip Distrist was. Can't wait to share the image with other Dobbs descendents. Thanks again, Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred C McCutcheon" <fredcmcc@usaor.net> To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 9:17 PM Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Pittsburgh Directories > New Brighton > Look in the back of the Pittsburgh Directories for that time period. > The publishers put in lots of towns far away, every place they thought > they could make a sale. Mac > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, Palm-Gen, and Westie > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library >

Last Admiral Lenkner, HRH, Do not get nasty !!! My father was an Allegheny Rat, born in fact at 47 Irwin Street. (Find that one if you can !!!) Ginnie6125 will help you if you need it !!!! Mac Al Lenkner wrote: > > Mac, > > That would explain your disposition. Your dad was a damn mountain > goat!! Your mother, being a genteel gal, probably lived on the other side > of Herschel or Steuben. > > Al > > At 12:23 AM 11/9/2001, you wrote: > >She lived in the West End before she got married. She was a Red Cross > >girl during WW 1, that is how she met my dad. Ggf Lewis W Mallasee > >lived at 727 Walbridge. Mac > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2

Marilyn, Do they still have those old cabins at Deep Creek or have they gotten more modern with hotel-type complexes? I used to love it as a kid in the '50's (the cabins were old, then!) when we would go to Deep Creek for a weekend or take our annual vacation there. Traffic was awful, returning on a Sunday afternoon, but just reading the name brought back some really great memories! Marilyn G. ----- Original Message ----- From: Marilyn Prinzing To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] guided tour Hey, Ginnie, I am going to be leaving for McHenry, MD on Thursday. Put the kettle on we will pay you a call on our way. All kidding aside. The last time we stayed at Deep Creek which is in that thin strip of MD that sits between WV and PA, I talked my husband into driving me to Grafton, WV via the backroads. Well !!!! That was quite an experience for a guy who was born in IN and grew up in IL. I was born in Grafton, WV where my father helped to build the Tygart Dam; but, the family came back to SW PA when I was three so mountain driving does not bother me; but, I would have rather been the driver for those backroads that day. My directions are no longer trusted where WV is concerned. LOL Will be spending Thanksgiving with my aunt in Saltsburg, PA so will be unsubscribing soon. Ya'll have a nice Thanksgiving, ya hear! Marilyn: Lake Co. Illinois --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.295 / Virus Database: 159 - Release Date: 11/1/01

Hi Ray, Thanks for your reply about the directories. I guess I am right in thinking that a directory was published every year from say 1905 to 1908 when my gggrandad died. I didn't mention that I am living in England so it is a bit more difficult to look them up but I usually try contacting a local library when I need something looked up. Only last week I received some info on the Tener family from the John K. Tener Library in Charleroi. Which brings me to another question. The 1918 newpaper article says that the Tener family lived on Bluff Street near the head of Stevenson Street, overlooking the Monogahela river. My question is does Bluff Street still exist today and if so what does it look like now? - Ed

Thanks Bryan for the info I will be writing them only hope they are willing to share some of the info Donna

thanks so much for this website - it is the one from the Better Business Bureau I heard about! marilyn g. ----- Original Message ----- From: darylat To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 6:55 AM Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] 911 donations Here is a link to Give.Org: Give But Wisely. I do not know how accurate this is but if you want you can check it out http://www.give.org/reports/index.asp It is about time that these charities become accountable for monies donated to them. Forget the Red Cross and United Way. They have always operated this way. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.295 / Virus Database: 159 - Release Date: 11/1/01

Great! Wheeling is close enough to Pittsburgh for lunch at Al's and dinner with Ginnie. What a great group! Marilyn G. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ginnie6125@aol.com To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] guided tour ok Sue. I will be in Wheeling, WV as of 11/20 and it is a darn sight closer than Fl. So all of you listers plan on comin on down, ya hear? Wheeling is close to Pittsburgh so I may have to rent a hall. ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom ============================== Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.295 / Virus Database: 159 - Release Date: 11/1/01

thanks, sue. directions to al's place, please, so I can get there by lunch tomorrow. I'm on the next plane! Marilyn G. in So. Calif. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue M To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 1:45 PM Subject: [PITTSBURGH] guided tour Of your house, I invited everyone on the list. Let Linda know that we all will be hungry too, but something simple will do. Sue* ----- Original Message ----- > Ginnie, > > I must have missed something. A guided tour? of what? > > Al --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.295 / Virus Database: 159 - Release Date: 11/1/2001 ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.295 / Virus Database: 159 - Release Date: 11/1/01

Hi Sue Thanks (crying) so much for the poem. BARB