Jane . . . I just discovered two wonderful apple recipes. My trees were overflowing this year, so I had to come up with more ideas. If you're interested in an apple crisp with crumb topping made with white cake and a very moist apple cake, I'd be happy to share. Let me know. Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: <NewSrchr@webtv.net> To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 3:00 PM Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] guided tour > Bryan; > How about sharing your Mom's recipe for that > Indiana Apple Cake ? > I like to try other types of Apple Cake...being that there are > hundreds...... > Couldn't help but get into this part of your discussion....hope you > don't mind ? Jane > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, Palm-Gen, and Westie > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > >

Bryan, If I go to Youngstown, I can round up a few 'persuaders." Mac

Anna, As you are the president of my fan club, I will exert every effort to get you that recipe, providing I get a piece. (aka Irish Salami) Mac

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Sandy; Yes, please share your Apple recipes with me....And thanks for the offer.. ps...what kind of apples do you grow ? Jane

I'm a big dumb pollack....and we make kielbassa, NOT polish sausage...there's a different falvor and texture completely....I don't even like polish sausage... B. -----Original Message----- From: Sandy Laurie [mailto:sandylaurie@alltel.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:56 PM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PITTSBURGH] sausage So what nationality's sausage are you talking about, Bryan? Sandy ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom ============================== Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

So what nationality's sausage are you talking about, Bryan? Sandy

No, no, no...red colored and greasy is Polish sausage, there's a big, BIG difference.... Kielbassa, when made correctly, is not greasy at all (or very slightly so). I like it served cold, myself, but others like it fried up and served on a bun, or with provolone cheese (that's pretty good)....it is completely different in taste and texture than polish sausage... So please, don't malign my most favorite dish in the whole wide world, please???? Bryan. -----Original Message----- From: Sandy Laurie [mailto:sandylaurie@alltel.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:41 PM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe The absolute best klobase( kielbassa)is Slovenian . . . not red-colored and greasy, but very meaty. There used to be a shop(Ferlan's)on Butler St. in Lawrenceville that made it . . . don't know if their still in business. Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Lenkner" <alenkner@stargate.net> To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:21 PM Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > Bryan, > > I'm not a fan of Kielbasa in any way, no matter how you spell it or cook > it. However, there was a place up on Brownsville Rd. A butcher shop. And > I think it was called "Jim-Lyn's" or something similar. The fellow that > owned the shop wouldn't give his recipe to anybody either and I think that > he only made it for Easter. You couldn't walk in off the street to buy > it; you had to place an order and maybe, just maybe, pay for it in > advance. I don't know why he called it kielbasa because it didn't take > like anything I've had since. Ask your dad if he remembers that butcher shop. > > Al > > > > At 01:14 PM 11/14/2001, you wrote: > >Brain, huh? That's the first time I've ever been called that....unless > >you're telling me I'm a little white mouse with a big head??? > > > >ANYway....I don't have the recepie, and I know that my dad won't share > >it....sorry....but my grandfather swore him to secrecy, I do know > >that...because years ago, back when I was a baby, my grandparents used to > >make tons of it for all the family members and neighbors and stuff....I > >swear, you could hear their kitchen table creaking as they worked....and we > >ALWAYS make hamburgers with the leftover meat....oh, GAWD are they good.... > > > >Bryan. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Cotter, Anna [mailto:Anna.Cotter@ca.com] > >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:01 PM > >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > >Brain, > > > >I would love to get a copy of your family recipe for Kielbasa to make for my > >father-in-law. I always make my own sausage . . . the best you have ever had > >. . . but my husband's family is big on fresh Kielbasa. My father-in-law > >grew up in the South Side on Edwards Way and after his family no longer made > >their own Kielbasa they would go to the local market and buy it. They only > >buy fresh . . . > > > >Are you willing to share? > > > >Anna > > > >Researching the following in Pittsburgh > > > >ALFONSI, CHRIST, CICCANTI, DEMBLOWSKI, COTTER, GEIER, GURCHAK (GURCAK) > > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > >Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, > >Palm-Gen, and Westie > > > >============================== > >Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238 > > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > >SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > > > >============================== > >Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238 > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, Palm-Gen, and Westie ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237

The absolute best klobase( kielbassa)is Slovenian . . . not red-colored and greasy, but very meaty. There used to be a shop(Ferlan's)on Butler St. in Lawrenceville that made it . . . don't know if their still in business. Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Lenkner" <alenkner@stargate.net> To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:21 PM Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > Bryan, > > I'm not a fan of Kielbasa in any way, no matter how you spell it or cook > it. However, there was a place up on Brownsville Rd. A butcher shop. And > I think it was called "Jim-Lyn's" or something similar. The fellow that > owned the shop wouldn't give his recipe to anybody either and I think that > he only made it for Easter. You couldn't walk in off the street to buy > it; you had to place an order and maybe, just maybe, pay for it in > advance. I don't know why he called it kielbasa because it didn't take > like anything I've had since. Ask your dad if he remembers that butcher shop. > > Al > > > > At 01:14 PM 11/14/2001, you wrote: > >Brain, huh? That's the first time I've ever been called that....unless > >you're telling me I'm a little white mouse with a big head??? > > > >ANYway....I don't have the recepie, and I know that my dad won't share > >it....sorry....but my grandfather swore him to secrecy, I do know > >that...because years ago, back when I was a baby, my grandparents used to > >make tons of it for all the family members and neighbors and stuff....I > >swear, you could hear their kitchen table creaking as they worked....and we > >ALWAYS make hamburgers with the leftover meat....oh, GAWD are they good.... > > > >Bryan. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Cotter, Anna [mailto:Anna.Cotter@ca.com] > >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:01 PM > >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > >Brain, > > > >I would love to get a copy of your family recipe for Kielbasa to make for my > >father-in-law. I always make my own sausage . . . the best you have ever had > >. . . but my husband's family is big on fresh Kielbasa. My father-in-law > >grew up in the South Side on Edwards Way and after his family no longer made > >their own Kielbasa they would go to the local market and buy it. They only > >buy fresh . . . > > > >Are you willing to share? > > > >Anna > > > >Researching the following in Pittsburgh > > > >ALFONSI, CHRIST, CICCANTI, DEMBLOWSKI, COTTER, GEIER, GURCHAK (GURCAK) > > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > >Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, > >Palm-Gen, and Westie > > > >============================== > >Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238 > > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > >SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > > > >============================== > >Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238 > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >

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Aww, gee, nice to know I'm loved around here.... -----Original Message----- From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:23 PM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe Yep!! At 02:00 PM 11/14/2001, you wrote: >OK, OK, gang up on Bryan, I see....well, this particular recepie is about 4 >generations old....and it has only been in the family....handed down from >father to son (and in some cases, daughter). Sorta like tradition, see? >And I'm sure you wouldn't want the ghosts of my ancestors to come back and >haunt the hell out of me, would you???? > >Bryan. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Darleen Berens [mailto:Darleen_Berens@prodigy.net] >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:52 PM >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > >There are Keilbasa Recipes on the web....here are a few of the sites in case >you do not get any sharers here.....<g>. > >http://pork.allrecipes.com/AZ/Kilbs.asp > >http://www.recipesource.com/main-dishes/meat/sausages/kielbasa1.html > >http://www.directrecipes.com/archives/mar-99/22_mar_99_Polish_Sausage.html > >http://www.kitchenlink.com/cgi/public_frames?page=ch/1999/august/guysguide1 >Scroll down the page once there for the above site. > >http://www.hgtv.com/HGTV/post/1,1190,FOLI_forum_4_364810,FF.html > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Cotter, Anna" <Anna.Cotter@ca.com> >To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:20 AM >Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > Bryan, > > > > Sorry about that . . . I guess I wasn't paying close enough attention to >the automatic spell check. . . > > > > > > Anyone out there willing to share their Kielbasa Recipe? > > > > Anna > > > > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > > Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, >Palm-Gen, and Westie > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > >============================== >Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238 > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, >Palm-Gen, and Westie > >============================== >Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp >Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. ============================== Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

He might, since he lived on 15th St. all his life (until he got married and moved *gasp* BELOW Carson....) B. -----Original Message----- From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:21 PM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe Bryan, I'm not a fan of Kielbasa in any way, no matter how you spell it or cook it. However, there was a place up on Brownsville Rd. A butcher shop. And I think it was called "Jim-Lyn's" or something similar. The fellow that owned the shop wouldn't give his recipe to anybody either and I think that he only made it for Easter. You couldn't walk in off the street to buy it; you had to place an order and maybe, just maybe, pay for it in advance. I don't know why he called it kielbasa because it didn't take like anything I've had since. Ask your dad if he remembers that butcher shop. Al At 01:14 PM 11/14/2001, you wrote: >Brain, huh? That's the first time I've ever been called that....unless >you're telling me I'm a little white mouse with a big head??? > >ANYway....I don't have the recepie, and I know that my dad won't share >it....sorry....but my grandfather swore him to secrecy, I do know >that...because years ago, back when I was a baby, my grandparents used to >make tons of it for all the family members and neighbors and stuff....I >swear, you could hear their kitchen table creaking as they worked....and we >ALWAYS make hamburgers with the leftover meat....oh, GAWD are they good.... > >Bryan. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Cotter, Anna [mailto:Anna.Cotter@ca.com] >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:01 PM >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > >Brain, > >I would love to get a copy of your family recipe for Kielbasa to make for my >father-in-law. I always make my own sausage . . . the best you have ever had >. . . but my husband's family is big on fresh Kielbasa. My father-in-law >grew up in the South Side on Edwards Way and after his family no longer made >their own Kielbasa they would go to the local market and buy it. They only >buy fresh . . . > >Are you willing to share? > >Anna > >Researching the following in Pittsburgh > >ALFONSI, CHRIST, CICCANTI, DEMBLOWSKI, COTTER, GEIER, GURCHAK (GURCAK) > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, >Palm-Gen, and Westie > >============================== >Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238 > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > >============================== >Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238 ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. ============================== Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate your heritage! http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

Yep!! At 02:00 PM 11/14/2001, you wrote: >OK, OK, gang up on Bryan, I see....well, this particular recepie is about 4 >generations old....and it has only been in the family....handed down from >father to son (and in some cases, daughter). Sorta like tradition, see? >And I'm sure you wouldn't want the ghosts of my ancestors to come back and >haunt the hell out of me, would you???? > >Bryan. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Darleen Berens [mailto:Darleen_Berens@prodigy.net] >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:52 PM >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > >There are Keilbasa Recipes on the web....here are a few of the sites in case >you do not get any sharers here.....<g>. > >http://pork.allrecipes.com/AZ/Kilbs.asp > >http://www.recipesource.com/main-dishes/meat/sausages/kielbasa1.html > >http://www.directrecipes.com/archives/mar-99/22_mar_99_Polish_Sausage.html > >http://www.kitchenlink.com/cgi/public_frames?page=ch/1999/august/guysguide1 >Scroll down the page once there for the above site. > >http://www.hgtv.com/HGTV/post/1,1190,FOLI_forum_4_364810,FF.html > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Cotter, Anna" <Anna.Cotter@ca.com> >To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:20 AM >Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > Bryan, > > > > Sorry about that . . . I guess I wasn't paying close enough attention to >the automatic spell check. . . > > > > > > Anyone out there willing to share their Kielbasa Recipe? > > > > Anna > > > > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > > Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, >Palm-Gen, and Westie > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > >============================== >Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238 > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, >Palm-Gen, and Westie > >============================== >Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp >Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

Bryan, I'm not a fan of Kielbasa in any way, no matter how you spell it or cook it. However, there was a place up on Brownsville Rd. A butcher shop. And I think it was called "Jim-Lyn's" or something similar. The fellow that owned the shop wouldn't give his recipe to anybody either and I think that he only made it for Easter. You couldn't walk in off the street to buy it; you had to place an order and maybe, just maybe, pay for it in advance. I don't know why he called it kielbasa because it didn't take like anything I've had since. Ask your dad if he remembers that butcher shop. Al At 01:14 PM 11/14/2001, you wrote: >Brain, huh? That's the first time I've ever been called that....unless >you're telling me I'm a little white mouse with a big head??? > >ANYway....I don't have the recepie, and I know that my dad won't share >it....sorry....but my grandfather swore him to secrecy, I do know >that...because years ago, back when I was a baby, my grandparents used to >make tons of it for all the family members and neighbors and stuff....I >swear, you could hear their kitchen table creaking as they worked....and we >ALWAYS make hamburgers with the leftover meat....oh, GAWD are they good.... > >Bryan. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Cotter, Anna [mailto:Anna.Cotter@ca.com] >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:01 PM >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > >Brain, > >I would love to get a copy of your family recipe for Kielbasa to make for my >father-in-law. I always make my own sausage . . . the best you have ever had >. . . but my husband's family is big on fresh Kielbasa. My father-in-law >grew up in the South Side on Edwards Way and after his family no longer made >their own Kielbasa they would go to the local market and buy it. They only >buy fresh . . . > >Are you willing to share? > >Anna > >Researching the following in Pittsburgh > >ALFONSI, CHRIST, CICCANTI, DEMBLOWSKI, COTTER, GEIER, GURCHAK (GURCAK) > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, >Palm-Gen, and Westie > >============================== >Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238 > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > >============================== >Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238

Yeah, that COULD be a problem.....standing outside freezing your but off waiting for the kielbassa to get done....'specially as I'm VERY impatient : ) B. -----Original Message----- From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:16 PM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] guided tour Bryan, I only do that during the warm months. Depending on the cut of meat and volume, smoking can take up to a day. That's why I use it only a couple of times a year. Al At 11:54 AM 11/14/2001, you wrote: >Gawd, I can't stand liver....the smoker, on the other hand....might have to >come up and see ya after me and dad make the kielbassa for christmas (we >make our own, old family recepie). Hmmm...now that DOES sound promising : ) > >Bryan. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:00 AM >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] guided tour > > >The only thing that I can cook in the kitchen is water. My expertise is on >the grill and the smoker. The smoker takes hours and the grill is too damn >hot so Linda leaves the thankless work to me. It's also a way to share >cooking time during the summer. I'll be on the grill while she prepares >the fixings. Hamburger for me and steak for her. She also loves the way >the grill does liver and BBQ chicken. > >Al > > > >At 03:53 PM 11/13/2001, you wrote: > >Most guys would KILL to have someone do that for them...I know I would, > >cause I can't cook for beans....damn, I'm the guy that burns grilled > >cheese.... > > > >B. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] > >Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:50 PM > >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] guided tour > > > > > >Bryan, > > > >For some reason, she never got into baking until recently. She finds a > >recipe that looks good and she'll make it until it's perfect and then goes > >on to another recipe. The guys at the firehouse like being her "guinea > >pig". They'd be happy if she cooked for them all of the time; 24/7/365. > > > >Al > > > > > > > >At 03:38 PM 11/13/2001, you wrote: > > >I'm not big on pie, so that really doesn't hold any appeal to me....now > >some > > >Indiana Apple Cake that my mom makes.....gawd, to die for, > >literally.....but > > >sounds like Linda likes to bake.... > > > > > >B. > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] > > >Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:26 PM > > >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] guided tour > > > > > > > > >Bryan, > > > > > >You should see the pie that Linda's making for the firehouse for tomorrow > > >night. It takes over a day because it has 3 different layers and has to >be > > >refrigerated a minimum of 4 hours for each layer, so that they can set > > >up. The doggone thing is at least 3 inches high. The topping is whipped > > >cream, powdered sugar and ............ (old age, I forgot what she said, >as > > >I was tasting it)!! > > > > > >Al > > > > > > > > > > > >At 08:34 AM 11/13/2001, you wrote: > > > >Ughh....you people are killing me here...it's only 8:30 am, and >already, > > >I'm > > > >craving steak for din-din....THANKS A LOT, AL!!!!! > > > > > > > >Bryan. > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] > > > >Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 5:36 PM > > > >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > > >Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] guided tour > > > > > > > > > > > >Time to move! Linda often makes a meal for the guys once or twice a > >month > > > >and she's the best damned cook around. One of my guys wants us to >adopt > > > >him so that he can eat her cooking all of the time. Trouble is, he > >balloon > > > >up to 350 pounds in no time. And he hasn't even tasted a steak from my > > > >high-tech grill. It can make a hamburger taste like filet! > > > > > > > >Al > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >At 04:45 PM 11/10/2001, you wrote: > > > > >Of your house, I invited everyone on the list. Let Linda know that >we > > >all > > > > >will be hungry too, but something simple will do. > > > > >Sue* > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ginnie, > > > > > > > > > > > > I must have missed something. A guided tour? of what? > > > > > > > > > > > > Al > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- > > > > > > > > > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > > >Version: 6.0.295 / Virus Database: 159 - Release Date: 11/1/2001 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > > > > >SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > > > > > > > > > >============================== > > > > >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > > > >Source for Family History Online. 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Bryan, I only do that during the warm months. Depending on the cut of meat and volume, smoking can take up to a day. That's why I use it only a couple of times a year. Al At 11:54 AM 11/14/2001, you wrote: >Gawd, I can't stand liver....the smoker, on the other hand....might have to >come up and see ya after me and dad make the kielbassa for christmas (we >make our own, old family recepie). Hmmm...now that DOES sound promising : ) > >Bryan. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:00 AM >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] guided tour > > >The only thing that I can cook in the kitchen is water. My expertise is on >the grill and the smoker. The smoker takes hours and the grill is too damn >hot so Linda leaves the thankless work to me. It's also a way to share >cooking time during the summer. I'll be on the grill while she prepares >the fixings. Hamburger for me and steak for her. She also loves the way >the grill does liver and BBQ chicken. > >Al > > > >At 03:53 PM 11/13/2001, you wrote: > >Most guys would KILL to have someone do that for them...I know I would, > >cause I can't cook for beans....damn, I'm the guy that burns grilled > >cheese.... > > > >B. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] > >Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:50 PM > >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] guided tour > > > > > >Bryan, > > > >For some reason, she never got into baking until recently. She finds a > >recipe that looks good and she'll make it until it's perfect and then goes > >on to another recipe. The guys at the firehouse like being her "guinea > >pig". They'd be happy if she cooked for them all of the time; 24/7/365. > > > >Al > > > > > > > >At 03:38 PM 11/13/2001, you wrote: > > >I'm not big on pie, so that really doesn't hold any appeal to me....now > >some > > >Indiana Apple Cake that my mom makes.....gawd, to die for, > >literally.....but > > >sounds like Linda likes to bake.... > > > > > >B. > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] > > >Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:26 PM > > >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] guided tour > > > > > > > > >Bryan, > > > > > >You should see the pie that Linda's making for the firehouse for tomorrow > > >night. It takes over a day because it has 3 different layers and has to >be > > >refrigerated a minimum of 4 hours for each layer, so that they can set > > >up. The doggone thing is at least 3 inches high. The topping is whipped > > >cream, powdered sugar and ............ (old age, I forgot what she said, >as > > >I was tasting it)!! > > > > > >Al > > > > > > > > > > > >At 08:34 AM 11/13/2001, you wrote: > > > >Ughh....you people are killing me here...it's only 8:30 am, and >already, > > >I'm > > > >craving steak for din-din....THANKS A LOT, AL!!!!! > > > > > > > >Bryan. > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] > > > >Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 5:36 PM > > > >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > > >Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] guided tour > > > > > > > > > > > >Time to move! Linda often makes a meal for the guys once or twice a > >month > > > >and she's the best damned cook around. One of my guys wants us to >adopt > > > >him so that he can eat her cooking all of the time. Trouble is, he > >balloon > > > >up to 350 pounds in no time. And he hasn't even tasted a steak from my > > > >high-tech grill. It can make a hamburger taste like filet! > > > > > > > >Al > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >At 04:45 PM 11/10/2001, you wrote: > > > > >Of your house, I invited everyone on the list. Let Linda know that >we > > >all > > > > >will be hungry too, but something simple will do. > > > > >Sue* > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ginnie, > > > > > > > > > > > > I must have missed something. A guided tour? of what? > > > > > > > > > > > > Al > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- > > > > > > > > > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > > >Version: 6.0.295 / Virus Database: 159 - Release Date: 11/1/2001 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > > > > >SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > > > > > > > > > >============================== > > > > >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > > > >Source for Family History Online. 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Bryan; How about sharing your Mom's recipe for that Indiana Apple Cake ? I like to try other types of Apple Cake...being that there are hundreds...... Couldn't help but get into this part of your discussion....hope you don't mind ? Jane

OK, OK, gang up on Bryan, I see....well, this particular recepie is about 4 generations old....and it has only been in the family....handed down from father to son (and in some cases, daughter). Sorta like tradition, see? And I'm sure you wouldn't want the ghosts of my ancestors to come back and haunt the hell out of me, would you???? Bryan. -----Original Message----- From: Darleen Berens [mailto:Darleen_Berens@prodigy.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:52 PM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe There are Keilbasa Recipes on the web....here are a few of the sites in case you do not get any sharers here.....<g>. http://pork.allrecipes.com/AZ/Kilbs.asp http://www.recipesource.com/main-dishes/meat/sausages/kielbasa1.html http://www.directrecipes.com/archives/mar-99/22_mar_99_Polish_Sausage.html http://www.kitchenlink.com/cgi/public_frames?page=ch/1999/august/guysguide1 Scroll down the page once there for the above site. http://www.hgtv.com/HGTV/post/1,1190,FOLI_forum_4_364810,FF.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cotter, Anna" <Anna.Cotter@ca.com> To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:20 AM Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > Bryan, > > Sorry about that . . . I guess I wasn't paying close enough attention to the automatic spell check. . . > > > Anyone out there willing to share their Kielbasa Recipe? > > Anna > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, Palm-Gen, and Westie > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. ============================== Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238

Hey, I'm sure my dad would be willing to make some more for....errr....ummm....a "small" fee.... : ) And you're very welcome : ) No one's mouth is watering more than mine, cause I haven't had lunch today (and no prospects of any food until dinner at about 6--it's only 1:45). B. -----Original Message----- From: Sslif@aol.com [mailto:Sslif@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:41 PM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe Sure, Bryan! Get all our mouth's watering and then NO RECIPE! Can I come visit for Christmas just for a taste? Sue in Michigan- former Pittsburgher ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237

Sure, Bryan! Get all our mouth's watering and then NO RECIPE! Can I come visit for Christmas just for a taste? Sue in Michigan- former Pittsburgher