OK, let me make this clear. To everyone. If this is in response to my and Al's conversation about the age of ladies having children these days, it was NOT intended as a personal attack, nor a condemnation of anyone on this list. Ask anyone on this list who knows me, I am not one to judge. If you have a child young, and you're able to care for that child, more power to you, I wish you the best of luck. I just made the observation that south side was much different that troy hill, and I am going to leave it at that. If anyone was offended, you took my comments the wrong way, and there's nothing I can do about that. Bryan. -----Original Message----- From: Dave Kraska [mailto:dhzkrask@adelphia.net] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 3:05 PM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Re: PA-PITTSBURGH-D Digest V01 #370 Bryan, I got it. With a 3 year old it is hard to miss. Heather ----- Original Message ----- From: <PA-PITTSBURGH-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:19 PM Subject: PA-PITTSBURGH-D Digest V01 #370 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.282 / Virus Database: 150 - Release Date: 9/25/01 ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, Palm-Gen, and Westie ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237

Bryan, I got it. With a 3 year old it is hard to miss. Heather ----- Original Message ----- From: <PA-PITTSBURGH-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:19 PM Subject: PA-PITTSBURGH-D Digest V01 #370 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.282 / Virus Database: 150 - Release Date: 9/25/01

Uhhh....we wanted to keep the Pens in Pgh? And that was one of the only ways to raise the $$$ to do it. Gawd, I want a cap and cheese now...thanks, went and made myself hungry... -----Original Message----- From: Diane Hungate [mailto:diane@haqa.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 2:54 PM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe B. Oh, believe me I told him ALL about Primantis....and also how to try and smuggle one back to England :) This is disgusting...first Forbes Field, then Three Rivers, now the Mellon Arena??? Phooey!!!!! Di ----- Original Message ----- From: "Szafranski, Bryan" <bszafranski1@pghboe.net> To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 7:47 PM Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > Di, > > Yep, it's Mellon Arena now....don't care for Eat-N-Park much, you should > have told him to go to PRIMANTI'S!!!! What's WRONG with you??? > > Hmmm....I much prefer ribfest at South Park (my sister's BF's band played > there this year, the Voodoo Babies). > > B. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Diane Hungate [mailto:diane@haqa.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 2:43 PM > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > Al, > > heheh...I told my husband he had to try some Iron City when he arrived in > Pittsburgh. Boy I wish I was there with him now....really miss the place. > He also has to visit Eat N Park....ah now, there are some fond memories > indeed. > > By the way, anyone remember the old Duquesne Gardens??? I remember going > there as a kid to a circus...was that up by where the Syria Mosque used to > stand? Man, they certainly have destroyed a number of historic buildings. > Infact, my daughter tells me they renamed the Civic Arena to the Mellon > Arena....good grief!! > > Here's another one for ya....the County Fairs at South Park. I think I'm > gonna book the next flight out... > > Diane > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Al Lenkner" <alenkner@stargate.net> > To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 6:59 PM > Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > Di, > > > > I hope you are not serious. First, draft. Second, bottles. Hardup and > > destitute for a beer, cans!! > > > > Al > > > > > > > > At 01:37 PM 11/15/2001, you wrote: > > >Al, > > > > > >You'd better believe it.......wish I could get my hands on a few cans of > > >Iron :) > > > > > >Di > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Al Lenkner" <alenkner@stargate.net> > > >To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 6:36 PM > > >Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > > > > Diana, > > > > > > > > I would never "likk" for kielbasa! You must be having a horrendous > > > > day! Tortored and confused! Enough to make you want to "likk" > somebody!! > > > > > > > > Al > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 12:42 PM 11/15/2001, you wrote: > > > > >Oh most definitely!!!! > > > > > > > > > >If you can find real, fresh, homemade kielbassa, you have died and > gone > > >to > > > > >heaven. I remember at Christmas time, getting fresh homemade > > >kielbassa...I > > > > >could be wrong but I think that shops in such areas as Lawrenceville > did > > >the > > > > >best....and definitely Polish Hill :) > > > > > > > > > >What used to bug me was the 'low fat' variety sold at the Giant > Eagle. > > > > >Ecch....how can you have low-fat kielbassa!! > > > > > > > > > >By the way....now that I am living in England, I would likk for > > > > >kielbassa...can't find it anywhere unless it's under a different name > > >and/or > > > > >in a ethnic area of London. So those of you who can get the nectar > of > > >the > > > > >gods, have one for me. > > > > > > > > > >Diane Hungate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: "Szafranski, Bryan" <bszafranski1@pghboe.net> > > > > >To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > >Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 3:57 PM > > > > >Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fine. Go and get technical....shouldn't really expect anything > else > > >from > > > > > > you....but there IS a difference between "real" kielbassa and the > > > > > > "manufactured" kielbassa.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Aren't there any other pollacks out there who can help me out > here???? > > > > > > > > > > > > Bryan. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:28 AM > > > > > > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bryan, > > > > > > > > > > > > Random House Dictionary of the English Language, 2nd edition, > > >unabridged: > > > > > > > > > > > > kielbasa, n., a smoked sausage of coarsely chopped beef and pork, > > >flavored > > > > > > with garlic and spices. Also called Polish sausage. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, you could argue that the dictionary is of the "English" > language > > >and > > > > > > not "Polish" and therefore they know not what they speak. > However, we > > >are > > > > > > living in an English-speaking country so that's what we have to go > > > > > > by. Maybe it's not politically correct but ......... > > > > > > > > > > > > Al > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 02:45 PM 11/14/2001, you wrote: > > > > > > >No, no, no...red colored and greasy is Polish sausage, there's a > big, > > >BIG > > > > > > >difference.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Kielbassa, when made correctly, is not greasy at all (or very > > >slightly > > > > >so). > > > > > > >I like it served cold, myself, but others like it fried up and > served > > >on > > > > >a > > > > > > >bun, or with provolone cheese (that's pretty good)....it is > > >completely > > > > > > >different in taste and texture than polish sausage... > > > > > > > > > > > > > >So please, don't malign my most favorite dish in the whole wide > > >world, > > > > > > >please???? > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Bryan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > > > >From: Sandy Laurie [mailto:sandylaurie@alltel.net] > > > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:41 PM > > > > > > >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The absolute best klobase( kielbassa)is Slovenian . . . not > > >red-colored > > > > >and > > > > > > >greasy, but very meaty. There used to be a shop(Ferlan's)on > Butler > > >St. > > > > >in > > > > > > >Lawrenceville that made it . . . don't know if their still in > > >business. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Sandy > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > >From: "Al Lenkner" <alenkner@stargate.net> > > > > > > >To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:21 PM > > > > > > >Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bryan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not a fan of Kielbasa in any way, no matter how you spell > it > > >or > > > > >cook > > > > > > > > it. However, there was a place up on Brownsville Rd. A > butcher > > >shop. > > > > > > >And > > > > > > > > I think it was called "Jim-Lyn's" or something similar. The > > >fellow > > > > >that > > > > > > > > owned the shop wouldn't give his recipe to anybody either and > I > > >think > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > he only made it for Easter. You couldn't walk in off the > street > > >to > > > > >buy > > > > > > > > it; you had to place an order and maybe, just maybe, pay for > it > > >in > > > > > > > > advance. I don't know why he called it kielbasa because it > didn't > > > > >take > > > > > > > > like anything I've had since. Ask your dad if he remembers > that > > > > >butcher > > > > > > >shop. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Al > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 01:14 PM 11/14/2001, you wrote: > > > > > > > > >Brain, huh? That's the first time I've ever been called > > > > >that....unless > > > > > > > > >you're telling me I'm a little white mouse with a big head??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >ANYway....I don't have the recepie, and I know that my dad > won't > > > > >share > > > > > > > > >it....sorry....but my grandfather swore him to secrecy, I do > know > > > > > > > > >that...because years ago, back when I was a baby, my > grandparents > > > > >used > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > >make tons of it for all the family members and neighbors and > > > > >stuff....I > > > > > > > > >swear, you could hear their kitchen table creaking as they > > > > > > worked....and > > > > > > >we > > > > > > > > >ALWAYS make hamburgers with the leftover meat....oh, GAWD are > > >they > > > > > > >good.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Bryan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > >From: Cotter, Anna [mailto:Anna.Cotter@ca.com] > > > > > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:01 PM > > > > > > > > >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > >Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Brain, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I would love to get a copy of your family recipe for Kielbasa > to > > >make > > > > > > for > > > > > > >my > > > > > > > > >father-in-law. 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Schwart's, ya mean? Also, try Mission Market, on Mission St. We get their smoked kielbassa every year.....and that stuff is good.... See, see? that's what you get for doubting us pollacks : ) B. -----Original Message----- From: Cotter, Anna [mailto:Anna.Cotter@ca.com] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:13 AM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe Bryan, Bryan, Bryan, I'm 100% Italian. But I can tell you going to the in-laws that there is a huge difference between fresh "real" kielbasa and the smoked whatever you see in most stores. When I first started dating my husband, he asked me if I would join him at his families house for Easter. He informed me that they were going to have kielbasa and chicken soup. Some out of town family members were going to be there and he wanted me to meet them. I informed him that I did not like Kielbasa but he insisted that I go. Anyway, I got my mom to change the time of our dinner so be more "lunch". I made sure that I ate before leaving for the future in-laws. When I got there, the kielbasa was fantastic. Nothing like I ever tasted before. It was nothing like the kielbasa in the stores. There are only two places that I know that has this "fresh" kielbasa in this area that almost compares. That is Barker's meat, and Swartz's (spelling??) in the South Side. Anna ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237

She threatened to sick him on me if I don't marry her daughter : ) Running office joke, of course.... -----Original Message----- From: Cotter, Anna [mailto:Anna.Cotter@ca.com] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:47 AM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe How did you know that? -----Original Message----- From: Szafranski, Bryan [mailto:bszafranski1@pghboe.net] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:44 AM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe Forget that...our secretary's uncle's name is Guido....need I say more? -----Original Message----- From: Fred C McCutcheon [mailto:fredcmcc@usaor.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:18 PM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe Bryan, If I go to Youngstown, I can round up a few 'persuaders." Mac ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom ============================== Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238 ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, Palm-Gen, and Westie ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237

Di, Yep, it's Mellon Arena now....don't care for Eat-N-Park much, you should have told him to go to PRIMANTI'S!!!! What's WRONG with you??? Hmmm....I much prefer ribfest at South Park (my sister's BF's band played there this year, the Voodoo Babies). B. -----Original Message----- From: Diane Hungate [mailto:diane@haqa.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 2:43 PM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe Al, heheh...I told my husband he had to try some Iron City when he arrived in Pittsburgh. Boy I wish I was there with him now....really miss the place. He also has to visit Eat N Park....ah now, there are some fond memories indeed. By the way, anyone remember the old Duquesne Gardens??? I remember going there as a kid to a circus...was that up by where the Syria Mosque used to stand? Man, they certainly have destroyed a number of historic buildings. Infact, my daughter tells me they renamed the Civic Arena to the Mellon Arena....good grief!! Here's another one for ya....the County Fairs at South Park. I think I'm gonna book the next flight out... Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Lenkner" <alenkner@stargate.net> To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > Di, > > I hope you are not serious. First, draft. Second, bottles. Hardup and > destitute for a beer, cans!! > > Al > > > > At 01:37 PM 11/15/2001, you wrote: > >Al, > > > >You'd better believe it.......wish I could get my hands on a few cans of > >Iron :) > > > >Di > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Al Lenkner" <alenkner@stargate.net> > >To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 6:36 PM > >Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > Diana, > > > > > > I would never "likk" for kielbasa! You must be having a horrendous > > > day! Tortored and confused! Enough to make you want to "likk" somebody!! > > > > > > Al > > > > > > > > > > > > At 12:42 PM 11/15/2001, you wrote: > > > >Oh most definitely!!!! > > > > > > > >If you can find real, fresh, homemade kielbassa, you have died and gone > >to > > > >heaven. I remember at Christmas time, getting fresh homemade > >kielbassa...I > > > >could be wrong but I think that shops in such areas as Lawrenceville did > >the > > > >best....and definitely Polish Hill :) > > > > > > > >What used to bug me was the 'low fat' variety sold at the Giant Eagle. > > > >Ecch....how can you have low-fat kielbassa!! > > > > > > > >By the way....now that I am living in England, I would likk for > > > >kielbassa...can't find it anywhere unless it's under a different name > >and/or > > > >in a ethnic area of London. So those of you who can get the nectar of > >the > > > >gods, have one for me. > > > > > > > >Diane Hungate > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Szafranski, Bryan" <bszafranski1@pghboe.net> > > > >To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > >Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 3:57 PM > > > >Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fine. Go and get technical....shouldn't really expect anything else > >from > > > > > you....but there IS a difference between "real" kielbassa and the > > > > > "manufactured" kielbassa.... > > > > > > > > > > Aren't there any other pollacks out there who can help me out here???? > > > > > > > > > > Bryan. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:28 AM > > > > > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bryan, > > > > > > > > > > Random House Dictionary of the English Language, 2nd edition, > >unabridged: > > > > > > > > > > kielbasa, n., a smoked sausage of coarsely chopped beef and pork, > >flavored > > > > > with garlic and spices. Also called Polish sausage. > > > > > > > > > > Now, you could argue that the dictionary is of the "English" language > >and > > > > > not "Polish" and therefore they know not what they speak. However, we > >are > > > > > living in an English-speaking country so that's what we have to go > > > > > by. Maybe it's not politically correct but ......... > > > > > > > > > > Al > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 02:45 PM 11/14/2001, you wrote: > > > > > >No, no, no...red colored and greasy is Polish sausage, there's a big, > >BIG > > > > > >difference.... > > > > > > > > > > > >Kielbassa, when made correctly, is not greasy at all (or very > >slightly > > > >so). > > > > > >I like it served cold, myself, but others like it fried up and served > >on > > > >a > > > > > >bun, or with provolone cheese (that's pretty good)....it is > >completely > > > > > >different in taste and texture than polish sausage... > > > > > > > > > > > >So please, don't malign my most favorite dish in the whole wide > >world, > > > > > >please???? > > > > > > > > > > > >Bryan. > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > > >From: Sandy Laurie [mailto:sandylaurie@alltel.net] > > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:41 PM > > > > > >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > >Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The absolute best klobase( kielbassa)is Slovenian . . . not > >red-colored > > > >and > > > > > >greasy, but very meaty. There used to be a shop(Ferlan's)on Butler > >St. > > > >in > > > > > >Lawrenceville that made it . . . don't know if their still in > >business. > > > > > > > > > > > >Sandy > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > >From: "Al Lenkner" <alenkner@stargate.net> > > > > > >To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:21 PM > > > > > >Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bryan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not a fan of Kielbasa in any way, no matter how you spell it > >or > > > >cook > > > > > > > it. However, there was a place up on Brownsville Rd. A butcher > >shop. > > > > > >And > > > > > > > I think it was called "Jim-Lyn's" or something similar. The > >fellow > > > >that > > > > > > > owned the shop wouldn't give his recipe to anybody either and I > >think > > > > > that > > > > > > > he only made it for Easter. You couldn't walk in off the street > >to > > > >buy > > > > > > > it; you had to place an order and maybe, just maybe, pay for it > >in > > > > > > > advance. I don't know why he called it kielbasa because it didn't > > > >take > > > > > > > like anything I've had since. Ask your dad if he remembers that > > > >butcher > > > > > >shop. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Al > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 01:14 PM 11/14/2001, you wrote: > > > > > > > >Brain, huh? That's the first time I've ever been called > > > >that....unless > > > > > > > >you're telling me I'm a little white mouse with a big head??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >ANYway....I don't have the recepie, and I know that my dad won't > > > >share > > > > > > > >it....sorry....but my grandfather swore him to secrecy, I do know > > > > > > > >that...because years ago, back when I was a baby, my grandparents > > > >used > > > > > to > > > > > > > >make tons of it for all the family members and neighbors and > > > >stuff....I > > > > > > > >swear, you could hear their kitchen table creaking as they > > > > > worked....and > > > > > >we > > > > > > > >ALWAYS make hamburgers with the leftover meat....oh, GAWD are > >they > > > > > >good.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Bryan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > > > > >From: Cotter, Anna [mailto:Anna.Cotter@ca.com] > > > > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:01 PM > > > > > > > >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > >Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Brain, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I would love to get a copy of your family recipe for Kielbasa to > >make > > > > > for > > > > > >my > > > > > > > >father-in-law. I always make my own sausage . . . the best you > >have > > > > > ever > > > > > >had > > > > > > > >. . . but my husband's family is big on fresh Kielbasa. 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So, I guess, it's all back to business; dull, disappointing, frustrating, maddening, genealogy. Well, the fling was fun while it lasted. Carol S. > Yeah, me too, but it really IS off topic....and it's all Al's fault *grin* > > > Nobody asked me, but I've been enjoying it. Carol S. > > > > > Seeing as I was the chief cause of this line of conversation, I'll shaddap > > for a while, I promise....unless Al drags me back into it, cause we all > know > > he likes to cause trouble : ) > > > > Sorry all.... > > > > Bryan. > > >

Naw, naw....Al's getting old and forgetting his roots.....get the bottle of Whiskey out and you'll always find me around : ) B. -----Original Message----- From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 2:00 PM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe Di, I hope you are not serious. First, draft. Second, bottles. Hardup and destitute for a beer, cans!! Al At 01:37 PM 11/15/2001, you wrote: >Al, > >You'd better believe it.......wish I could get my hands on a few cans of >Iron :) > >Di > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Al Lenkner" <alenkner@stargate.net> >To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 6:36 PM >Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > Diana, > > > > I would never "likk" for kielbasa! You must be having a horrendous > > day! Tortored and confused! Enough to make you want to "likk" somebody!! > > > > Al > > > > > > > > At 12:42 PM 11/15/2001, you wrote: > > >Oh most definitely!!!! > > > > > >If you can find real, fresh, homemade kielbassa, you have died and gone >to > > >heaven. I remember at Christmas time, getting fresh homemade >kielbassa...I > > >could be wrong but I think that shops in such areas as Lawrenceville did >the > > >best....and definitely Polish Hill :) > > > > > >What used to bug me was the 'low fat' variety sold at the Giant Eagle. > > >Ecch....how can you have low-fat kielbassa!! > > > > > >By the way....now that I am living in England, I would likk for > > >kielbassa...can't find it anywhere unless it's under a different name >and/or > > >in a ethnic area of London. So those of you who can get the nectar of >the > > >gods, have one for me. > > > > > >Diane Hungate > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Szafranski, Bryan" <bszafranski1@pghboe.net> > > >To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 3:57 PM > > >Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > > > > Fine. Go and get technical....shouldn't really expect anything else >from > > > > you....but there IS a difference between "real" kielbassa and the > > > > "manufactured" kielbassa.... > > > > > > > > Aren't there any other pollacks out there who can help me out here???? > > > > > > > > Bryan. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:28 AM > > > > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > > > > > > Bryan, > > > > > > > > Random House Dictionary of the English Language, 2nd edition, >unabridged: > > > > > > > > kielbasa, n., a smoked sausage of coarsely chopped beef and pork, >flavored > > > > with garlic and spices. Also called Polish sausage. > > > > > > > > Now, you could argue that the dictionary is of the "English" language >and > > > > not "Polish" and therefore they know not what they speak. However, we >are > > > > living in an English-speaking country so that's what we have to go > > > > by. Maybe it's not politically correct but ......... > > > > > > > > Al > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 02:45 PM 11/14/2001, you wrote: > > > > >No, no, no...red colored and greasy is Polish sausage, there's a big, >BIG > > > > >difference.... > > > > > > > > > >Kielbassa, when made correctly, is not greasy at all (or very >slightly > > >so). > > > > >I like it served cold, myself, but others like it fried up and served >on > > >a > > > > >bun, or with provolone cheese (that's pretty good)....it is >completely > > > > >different in taste and texture than polish sausage... > > > > > > > > > >So please, don't malign my most favorite dish in the whole wide >world, > > > > >please???? > > > > > > > > > >Bryan. > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > >From: Sandy Laurie [mailto:sandylaurie@alltel.net] > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:41 PM > > > > >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > > > >Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The absolute best klobase( kielbassa)is Slovenian . . . not >red-colored > > >and > > > > >greasy, but very meaty. There used to be a shop(Ferlan's)on Butler >St. > > >in > > > > >Lawrenceville that made it . . . don't know if their still in >business. > > > > > > > > > >Sandy > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: "Al Lenkner" <alenkner@stargate.net> > > > > >To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:21 PM > > > > >Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bryan, > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not a fan of Kielbasa in any way, no matter how you spell it >or > > >cook > > > > > > it. However, there was a place up on Brownsville Rd. A butcher >shop. > > > > >And > > > > > > I think it was called "Jim-Lyn's" or something similar. The >fellow > > >that > > > > > > owned the shop wouldn't give his recipe to anybody either and I >think > > > > that > > > > > > he only made it for Easter. You couldn't walk in off the street >to > > >buy > > > > > > it; you had to place an order and maybe, just maybe, pay for it >in > > > > > > advance. I don't know why he called it kielbasa because it didn't > > >take > > > > > > like anything I've had since. Ask your dad if he remembers that > > >butcher > > > > >shop. > > > > > > > > > > > > Al > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 01:14 PM 11/14/2001, you wrote: > > > > > > >Brain, huh? That's the first time I've ever been called > > >that....unless > > > > > > >you're telling me I'm a little white mouse with a big head??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > >ANYway....I don't have the recepie, and I know that my dad won't > > >share > > > > > > >it....sorry....but my grandfather swore him to secrecy, I do know > > > > > > >that...because years ago, back when I was a baby, my grandparents > > >used > > > > to > > > > > > >make tons of it for all the family members and neighbors and > > >stuff....I > > > > > > >swear, you could hear their kitchen table creaking as they > > > > worked....and > > > > >we > > > > > > >ALWAYS make hamburgers with the leftover meat....oh, GAWD are >they > > > > >good.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Bryan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > > > >From: Cotter, Anna [mailto:Anna.Cotter@ca.com] > > > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:01 PM > > > > > > >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > >Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Brain, > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I would love to get a copy of your family recipe for Kielbasa to >make > > > > for > > > > >my > > > > > > >father-in-law. I always make my own sausage . . . the best you >have > > > > ever > > > > >had > > > > > > >. . . but my husband's family is big on fresh Kielbasa. My > > > > father-in-law > > > > > > >grew up in the South Side on Edwards Way and after his family no > > >longer > > > > >made > > > > > > >their own Kielbasa they would go to the local market and buy it. > > >They > > > > >only > > > > > > >buy fresh . . . > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Are you willing to share? > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Researching the following in Pittsburgh > > > > > > > > > > > > > >ALFONSI, CHRIST, CICCANTI, DEMBLOWSKI, COTTER, GEIER, GURCHAK > > >(GURCAK) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > > > > > > >Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, > > >Nost-TV, > > > > > > >Palm-Gen, and Westie > > > > > > > > > > > > > >============================== > > > > > > >Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for >14 > > > > Days > > > > > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > > > > > > >SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > > > > > > > > > > > > > >============================== > > > > > > >Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for >14 > > > > Days > > > > > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > > > > > > How to unsubscribe. 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Hey, Irish, German, Polish, and Ukranian right here baby. Just send me up there and we'll get EVERYTHING straightened out : ) b. -----Original Message----- From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 1:52 PM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe Bryan, For real diversity, they are thinking about importing some Irish! Al At 01:32 PM 11/15/2001, you wrote: >Hey, my sister's best friend's parents are straight off the boat, man....I >think I just might tell them you said that.... > >-----Original Message----- >From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] >Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 1:32 PM >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > >Brookline is full of the Syrians and Lebanese booted from the Hill from the >Civic Arena. They tossed in a few paesans for "diversity"! > >Al > > > >At 10:59 AM 11/15/2001, you wrote: > >Welp, Connie lives in Brookline..... > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] > >Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:55 AM > >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > >Bryan, > > > >We have more "Guiodos/Guys/Gaetanos" in Beechview than we have streets! > > > >Al > > > > > > > >At 10:44 AM 11/15/2001, you wrote: > > >Forget that...our secretary's uncle's name is Guido....need I say more? > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Fred C McCutcheon [mailto:fredcmcc@usaor.net] > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:18 PM > > >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > > >Bryan, > > > If I go to Youngstown, I can round up a few 'persuaders." Mac > > > > > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > > >SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > > > > > >============================== > > >Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238 > > > > > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > > >Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, > > >Palm-Gen, and Westie > > > > > >============================== > > >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > >Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > >SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > > > >============================== > >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > >Source for Family History Online. Go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > >How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > >that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > > > >============================== > >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > >Source for Family History Online. Go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237

Diane, Just couldn't keep quiet any longer. Yes, I remember the Duquesne Gardens; the circus, the Ice Capades, Globe Trotters, and a popular (at that time) quartet. Carol S. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx . > > By the way, anyone remember the old Duquesne Gardens??? I remember going > there as a kid to a circus...was that up by where the Syria Mosque used to > stand? Man, they certainly have destroyed a number of historic buildings. > Infact, my daughter tells me they renamed the Civic Arena to the Mellon > Arena....good grief!! > > Here's another one for ya....the County Fairs at South Park. I think I'm > gonna book the next flight out... > > Diane > >

Di, I hope you are not serious. First, draft. Second, bottles. Hardup and destitute for a beer, cans!! Al At 01:37 PM 11/15/2001, you wrote: >Al, > >You'd better believe it.......wish I could get my hands on a few cans of >Iron :) > >Di > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Al Lenkner" <alenkner@stargate.net> >To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 6:36 PM >Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > Diana, > > > > I would never "likk" for kielbasa! You must be having a horrendous > > day! Tortored and confused! Enough to make you want to "likk" somebody!! > > > > Al > > > > > > > > At 12:42 PM 11/15/2001, you wrote: > > >Oh most definitely!!!! > > > > > >If you can find real, fresh, homemade kielbassa, you have died and gone >to > > >heaven. I remember at Christmas time, getting fresh homemade >kielbassa...I > > >could be wrong but I think that shops in such areas as Lawrenceville did >the > > >best....and definitely Polish Hill :) > > > > > >What used to bug me was the 'low fat' variety sold at the Giant Eagle. > > >Ecch....how can you have low-fat kielbassa!! > > > > > >By the way....now that I am living in England, I would likk for > > >kielbassa...can't find it anywhere unless it's under a different name >and/or > > >in a ethnic area of London. So those of you who can get the nectar of >the > > >gods, have one for me. > > > > > >Diane Hungate > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Szafranski, Bryan" <bszafranski1@pghboe.net> > > >To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 3:57 PM > > >Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > > > > Fine. Go and get technical....shouldn't really expect anything else >from > > > > you....but there IS a difference between "real" kielbassa and the > > > > "manufactured" kielbassa.... > > > > > > > > Aren't there any other pollacks out there who can help me out here???? > > > > > > > > Bryan. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:28 AM > > > > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > > > > > > Bryan, > > > > > > > > Random House Dictionary of the English Language, 2nd edition, >unabridged: > > > > > > > > kielbasa, n., a smoked sausage of coarsely chopped beef and pork, >flavored > > > > with garlic and spices. Also called Polish sausage. > > > > > > > > Now, you could argue that the dictionary is of the "English" language >and > > > > not "Polish" and therefore they know not what they speak. However, we >are > > > > living in an English-speaking country so that's what we have to go > > > > by. Maybe it's not politically correct but ......... > > > > > > > > Al > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 02:45 PM 11/14/2001, you wrote: > > > > >No, no, no...red colored and greasy is Polish sausage, there's a big, >BIG > > > > >difference.... > > > > > > > > > >Kielbassa, when made correctly, is not greasy at all (or very >slightly > > >so). > > > > >I like it served cold, myself, but others like it fried up and served >on > > >a > > > > >bun, or with provolone cheese (that's pretty good)....it is >completely > > > > >different in taste and texture than polish sausage... > > > > > > > > > >So please, don't malign my most favorite dish in the whole wide >world, > > > > >please???? > > > > > > > > > >Bryan. > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > >From: Sandy Laurie [mailto:sandylaurie@alltel.net] > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:41 PM > > > > >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > > > >Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The absolute best klobase( kielbassa)is Slovenian . . . not >red-colored > > >and > > > > >greasy, but very meaty. There used to be a shop(Ferlan's)on Butler >St. > > >in > > > > >Lawrenceville that made it . . . don't know if their still in >business. > > > > > > > > > >Sandy > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: "Al Lenkner" <alenkner@stargate.net> > > > > >To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:21 PM > > > > >Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bryan, > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not a fan of Kielbasa in any way, no matter how you spell it >or > > >cook > > > > > > it. However, there was a place up on Brownsville Rd. A butcher >shop. > > > > >And > > > > > > I think it was called "Jim-Lyn's" or something similar. The >fellow > > >that > > > > > > owned the shop wouldn't give his recipe to anybody either and I >think > > > > that > > > > > > he only made it for Easter. You couldn't walk in off the street >to > > >buy > > > > > > it; you had to place an order and maybe, just maybe, pay for it >in > > > > > > advance. I don't know why he called it kielbasa because it didn't > > >take > > > > > > like anything I've had since. Ask your dad if he remembers that > > >butcher > > > > >shop. > > > > > > > > > > > > Al > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 01:14 PM 11/14/2001, you wrote: > > > > > > >Brain, huh? That's the first time I've ever been called > > >that....unless > > > > > > >you're telling me I'm a little white mouse with a big head??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > >ANYway....I don't have the recepie, and I know that my dad won't > > >share > > > > > > >it....sorry....but my grandfather swore him to secrecy, I do know > > > > > > >that...because years ago, back when I was a baby, my grandparents > > >used > > > > to > > > > > > >make tons of it for all the family members and neighbors and > > >stuff....I > > > > > > >swear, you could hear their kitchen table creaking as they > > > > worked....and > > > > >we > > > > > > >ALWAYS make hamburgers with the leftover meat....oh, GAWD are >they > > > > >good.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Bryan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > > > >From: Cotter, Anna [mailto:Anna.Cotter@ca.com] > > > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:01 PM > > > > > > >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > >Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Brain, > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I would love to get a copy of your family recipe for Kielbasa to >make > > > > for > > > > >my > > > > > > >father-in-law. I always make my own sausage . . . the best you >have > > > > ever > > > > >had > > > > > > >. . . but my husband's family is big on fresh Kielbasa. 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Nobody asked me, but I've been enjoying it. Carol S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Szafranski, Bryan" <bszafranski1@pghboe.net> To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 1:48 PM Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] List owner > Seeing as I was the chief cause of this line of conversation, I'll shaddap > for a while, I promise....unless Al drags me back into it, cause we all know > he likes to cause trouble : ) > > Sorry all.... > > Bryan. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sue M [mailto:starshine166@home.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 3:39 PM > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] List owner > > > Virginia, > Please be patient, I'll see what I can do to divert the conversations away > from food and recipes. > Thanks, > Sue* > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Kro476@aol.com> > To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 3:15 PM > Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] List owner > > > > I want to chat with the best of you but this has gotten totally out of > hand. > > Just my opinion. I have been entertained by most of this OFF LIST stuff, > but > > this is just too much. I may have to unsubscribe. > > > > Virginia > > > > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > > SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > --- > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.298 / Virus Database: 161 - Release Date: 11/13/2001 > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, Palm-Gen, and Westie > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 >

Bryan, For real diversity, they are thinking about importing some Irish! Al At 01:32 PM 11/15/2001, you wrote: >Hey, my sister's best friend's parents are straight off the boat, man....I >think I just might tell them you said that.... > >-----Original Message----- >From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] >Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 1:32 PM >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > >Brookline is full of the Syrians and Lebanese booted from the Hill from the >Civic Arena. They tossed in a few paesans for "diversity"! > >Al > > > >At 10:59 AM 11/15/2001, you wrote: > >Welp, Connie lives in Brookline..... > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] > >Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:55 AM > >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > >Bryan, > > > >We have more "Guiodos/Guys/Gaetanos" in Beechview than we have streets! > > > >Al > > > > > > > >At 10:44 AM 11/15/2001, you wrote: > > >Forget that...our secretary's uncle's name is Guido....need I say more? > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Fred C McCutcheon [mailto:fredcmcc@usaor.net] > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:18 PM > > >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > > >Bryan, > > > If I go to Youngstown, I can round up a few 'persuaders." Mac > > > > > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > > >SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > > > > > >============================== > > >Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238 > > > > > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > > >Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, > > >Palm-Gen, and Westie > > > > > >============================== > > >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > >Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > >SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > > > >============================== > >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > >Source for Family History Online. Go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > >How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > >that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > > > >============================== > >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > >Source for Family History Online. Go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237

Diana, I would never "likk" for kielbasa! You must be having a horrendous day! Tortored and confused! Enough to make you want to "likk" somebody!! Al At 12:42 PM 11/15/2001, you wrote: >Oh most definitely!!!! > >If you can find real, fresh, homemade kielbassa, you have died and gone to >heaven. I remember at Christmas time, getting fresh homemade kielbassa...I >could be wrong but I think that shops in such areas as Lawrenceville did the >best....and definitely Polish Hill :) > >What used to bug me was the 'low fat' variety sold at the Giant Eagle. >Ecch....how can you have low-fat kielbassa!! > >By the way....now that I am living in England, I would likk for >kielbassa...can't find it anywhere unless it's under a different name and/or >in a ethnic area of London. So those of you who can get the nectar of the >gods, have one for me. > >Diane Hungate > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Szafranski, Bryan" <bszafranski1@pghboe.net> >To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 3:57 PM >Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > Fine. Go and get technical....shouldn't really expect anything else from > > you....but there IS a difference between "real" kielbassa and the > > "manufactured" kielbassa.... > > > > Aren't there any other pollacks out there who can help me out here???? > > > > Bryan. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] > > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:28 AM > > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > Bryan, > > > > Random House Dictionary of the English Language, 2nd edition, unabridged: > > > > kielbasa, n., a smoked sausage of coarsely chopped beef and pork, flavored > > with garlic and spices. Also called Polish sausage. > > > > Now, you could argue that the dictionary is of the "English" language and > > not "Polish" and therefore they know not what they speak. However, we are > > living in an English-speaking country so that's what we have to go > > by. Maybe it's not politically correct but ......... > > > > Al > > > > > > > > At 02:45 PM 11/14/2001, you wrote: > > >No, no, no...red colored and greasy is Polish sausage, there's a big, BIG > > >difference.... > > > > > >Kielbassa, when made correctly, is not greasy at all (or very slightly >so). > > >I like it served cold, myself, but others like it fried up and served on >a > > >bun, or with provolone cheese (that's pretty good)....it is completely > > >different in taste and texture than polish sausage... > > > > > >So please, don't malign my most favorite dish in the whole wide world, > > >please???? > > > > > >Bryan. > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Sandy Laurie [mailto:sandylaurie@alltel.net] > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:41 PM > > >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > > >The absolute best klobase( kielbassa)is Slovenian . . . not red-colored >and > > >greasy, but very meaty. There used to be a shop(Ferlan's)on Butler St. >in > > >Lawrenceville that made it . . . don't know if their still in business. > > > > > >Sandy > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Al Lenkner" <alenkner@stargate.net> > > >To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:21 PM > > >Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > > > > Bryan, > > > > > > > > I'm not a fan of Kielbasa in any way, no matter how you spell it or >cook > > > > it. However, there was a place up on Brownsville Rd. A butcher shop. > > >And > > > > I think it was called "Jim-Lyn's" or something similar. The fellow >that > > > > owned the shop wouldn't give his recipe to anybody either and I think > > that > > > > he only made it for Easter. You couldn't walk in off the street to >buy > > > > it; you had to place an order and maybe, just maybe, pay for it in > > > > advance. I don't know why he called it kielbasa because it didn't >take > > > > like anything I've had since. Ask your dad if he remembers that >butcher > > >shop. > > > > > > > > Al > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 01:14 PM 11/14/2001, you wrote: > > > > >Brain, huh? That's the first time I've ever been called >that....unless > > > > >you're telling me I'm a little white mouse with a big head??? > > > > > > > > > >ANYway....I don't have the recepie, and I know that my dad won't >share > > > > >it....sorry....but my grandfather swore him to secrecy, I do know > > > > >that...because years ago, back when I was a baby, my grandparents >used > > to > > > > >make tons of it for all the family members and neighbors and >stuff....I > > > > >swear, you could hear their kitchen table creaking as they > > worked....and > > >we > > > > >ALWAYS make hamburgers with the leftover meat....oh, GAWD are they > > >good.... > > > > > > > > > >Bryan. > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > >From: Cotter, Anna [mailto:Anna.Cotter@ca.com] > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:01 PM > > > > >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > > > >Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Brain, > > > > > > > > > >I would love to get a copy of your family recipe for Kielbasa to make > > for > > >my > > > > >father-in-law. I always make my own sausage . . . the best you have > > ever > > >had > > > > >. . . but my husband's family is big on fresh Kielbasa. 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Hey, my sister's best friend's parents are straight off the boat, man....I think I just might tell them you said that.... -----Original Message----- From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 1:32 PM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe Brookline is full of the Syrians and Lebanese booted from the Hill from the Civic Arena. They tossed in a few paesans for "diversity"! Al At 10:59 AM 11/15/2001, you wrote: >Welp, Connie lives in Brookline..... > >-----Original Message----- >From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] >Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:55 AM >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > >Bryan, > >We have more "Guiodos/Guys/Gaetanos" in Beechview than we have streets! > >Al > > > >At 10:44 AM 11/15/2001, you wrote: > >Forget that...our secretary's uncle's name is Guido....need I say more? > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Fred C McCutcheon [mailto:fredcmcc@usaor.net] > >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:18 PM > >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > >Bryan, > > If I go to Youngstown, I can round up a few 'persuaders." Mac > > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > >SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > > > >============================== > >Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238 > > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > >Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, > >Palm-Gen, and Westie > > > >============================== > >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > >Source for Family History Online. Go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237

Brookline is full of the Syrians and Lebanese booted from the Hill from the Civic Arena. They tossed in a few paesans for "diversity"! Al At 10:59 AM 11/15/2001, you wrote: >Welp, Connie lives in Brookline..... > >-----Original Message----- >From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] >Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:55 AM >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > >Bryan, > >We have more "Guiodos/Guys/Gaetanos" in Beechview than we have streets! > >Al > > > >At 10:44 AM 11/15/2001, you wrote: > >Forget that...our secretary's uncle's name is Guido....need I say more? > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Fred C McCutcheon [mailto:fredcmcc@usaor.net] > >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:18 PM > >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > >Bryan, > > If I go to Youngstown, I can round up a few 'persuaders." Mac > > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > >SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > > > >============================== > >Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238 > > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > >Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, > >Palm-Gen, and Westie > > > >============================== > >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > >Source for Family History Online. Go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237

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Bryan, Bryan, Bryan, I'm 100% Italian. But I can tell you going to the in-laws that there is a huge difference between fresh "real" kielbasa and the smoked whatever you see in most stores. When I first started dating my husband, he asked me if I would join him at his families house for Easter. He informed me that they were going to have kielbasa and chicken soup. Some out of town family members were going to be there and he wanted me to meet them. I informed him that I did not like Kielbasa but he insisted that I go. Anyway, I got my mom to change the time of our dinner so be more "lunch". I made sure that I ate before leaving for the future in-laws. When I got there, the kielbasa was fantastic. Nothing like I ever tasted before. It was nothing like the kielbasa in the stores. There are only two places that I know that has this "fresh" kielbasa in this area that almost compares. That is Barker's meat, and Swartz's (spelling??) in the South Side. Anna

I'm not the only member of Mac's fan club. Although someone said that we would all fit in an elevator. . . Cooking is in my gene's. If it comes from a box, I'm sure to mess it up. But if it's fresh . . . I usually don't have leftovers. I guess it comes from my Italian grandmothers influence. They would spend days cooking to get ready for the big Sunday meal. My two grandmothers lived across the street from one another and both houses were normally filled on Sunday afternoons with numerous relatives. In my family, three brothers from one family married three girls who were first cousins from another unrelated family. But everyone knew everyone else. So if you would like anything Italian (Abruzzi style) let me know and I'll make it for you. If I can't cook it, I'll have my Uncle Franco (not related to Guido) cook it. My sausage recipe is coming but since I don't usually use measurements I'm going have to make sure my estimates are correct so I'll be making sausage in the near future. P.S. If you plan on making sausage, start making your homemade wine now. -----Original Message----- From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:36 AM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe I guess that Anna is lucky! As President, Vice-President, Secretary, Treasurer and only member, she can appoint anyone, including herself, to receive that recipe!! And, if you're a nice guy and cook it for her, who's going to eat it? Al At 04:15 PM 11/14/2001, you wrote: >Anna, > As you are the president of my fan club, I will exert every effort to >get you that recipe, providing I get a piece. (aka Irish Salami) Mac > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, >Palm-Gen, and Westie > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237

Welp, Connie lives in Brookline..... -----Original Message----- From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:55 AM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe Bryan, We have more "Guiodos/Guys/Gaetanos" in Beechview than we have streets! Al At 10:44 AM 11/15/2001, you wrote: >Forget that...our secretary's uncle's name is Guido....need I say more? > >-----Original Message----- >From: Fred C McCutcheon [mailto:fredcmcc@usaor.net] >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:18 PM >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > >Bryan, > If I go to Youngstown, I can round up a few 'persuaders." Mac > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > >============================== >Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238 > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, >Palm-Gen, and Westie > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237