Hello List, Nora wrote: NY's last state census was 1925 and I believe it was one of the original 13. Is the 1925 census available online? Could someone give us a site or contact? Thank you. ===== Phyllis Frameli POINTer #4554 ICC #427 layne@mississippi.net Researching- FRAGOMELI, DiBROGGINI, PETROLO, and associated families; MANCUZZO, JANSANTE, CAMPESI, BRIOLI, TASSONE, FRAMELI, CHIARA, RULLO, ALLRED, HOLDER, HOGUE/HOGE, BOBO, JOHNSON, GRIFFITH, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com

Rosanne, Before J.G. (the one in Monroeville) became Chuck E. Cheese, it was also a Golden Spike as well. I'd forgotten about that. I'd written earlier about the shopping plaza/mall near Greater Valley Shopping Center and couldn't remember the name, it was Eastland Shoping Plaza. That was as close in defination to a mall as we had then. It was two floors, the ground level was open like a plaza of shops, the basement floor was closed in. Sue* ----- Original Message ----- > There was one downtown across from Heinz Hall, the Johnny Garneau's Golden > Spike. It doesn't seem like the correct spelling for Garneau. I think one > in North Hills also. > > Rosanne --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.313 / Virus Database: 174 - Release Date: 1/2/2002

There was one downtown across from Heinz Hall, the Johnny Garneau's Golden Spike. It doesn't seem like the correct spelling for Garneau. I think one in North Hills also. Rosanne

You are correct. NY was an original colony. Hence my word "most" and not "all" when referring to other states. NY is fortunate to have state censuses from 1825 to 1925 every 10 years on the "5's." It sure can be handy ... if you can read them! I had a friend who was very excited to go to the page of the census his ancestors were on, and saw the headings, but the rest of the page looked blank due to the disappearing ink that the ravages of time induce. For those wanting to know more about the censuses, their contents, and their availability I would recommend Bill Dollarhide's book "The Census Book" which comes with a CD-Rom of the book and census forms to use. There is also a book just about State Censuses. Also look for Kathy Hinckley's new book coming out this year on the census. It is truly a comprehensive "must-have" for the genealogist's bookshelf. -- Elissa On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 22:30:30 EST Norafitz@aol.com writes: > Elissa > > NY's last state census was 1925 and I believe it was one of the > original 13. > > Nora > > > > Pennsylvania did not have any state censuses taken. Most of the > other > > state's censuses were done when a state was a territory before it > would > > apply to statehood. The federal government did offer to fund a > state > > census for any state that wanted it in 1885, but PA did not > partake. > > > > Tax lists can sometimes be used as a census substitute. Southwest > PA does > > have extant tax lists for the 1798 federal "pane" tax, so named > since > > they taxed window panes. > > > > -- Elissa > > > > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, > Nost-TV, Palm-Gen, and Westie > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

Elissa NY's last state census was 1925 and I believe it was one of the original 13. Nora > Pennsylvania did not have any state censuses taken. Most of the other > state's censuses were done when a state was a territory before it would > apply to statehood. The federal government did offer to fund a state > census for any state that wanted it in 1885, but PA did not partake. > > Tax lists can sometimes be used as a census substitute. Southwest PA does > have extant tax lists for the 1798 federal "pane" tax, so named since > they taxed window panes. > > -- Elissa >

Dee, Wow, that takes me back some years, it was one of my favorite places. It's a kid's pizza place/indoor playground now, Chucky Cheese. Isn't that sad! I worked at Monroeville Mall in 1970, and as far back as I can remember, the traffic had been bad. Miracle Mile does pre-date Greengate Mall, which is now closed. But, before Monroeville Mall, there was a mall (of sorts) near Greater Valley Shopping Center, I can remember the name of it right now. Sue* ----- Original Message ----- > Al, > In case you don't know it, Monroeville's traffic has been a nightmare for > YEARS! I grew up in the Mamont/Export area right next to Murrysville. The > Miracle Mile was the only shopping center in that area. I don't think they > had the mall in Greensburg back then (60s). Every time we come back that > way it's worse and worse - maybe because we're used to living in an area > where the cows haven't all been chased out yet! It's getting there, tho! > Wasn't there a place called Johnny Garneau's Smorgasboard in Monroeville > back then - or was that the Holiday House? I don't remember if it went > bankrupt or burnt down (maybe one led to the other)?! > Dee --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.311 / Virus Database: 172 - Release Date: 12/27/2001

Fred Are you from the Penn Hilll/Plum Boro area? Your name sounds really familiar. I think there was a McCutcheon farm around Unity or somewhere nearby. Just curious. Donna ************************************** Donna Binkley Lograsso - St. Louis, MO Searching: BINKLEY - ALLEGHENY Co., Penn Hills/Plum Boro., PA DAVIDSON, FRICK - WESTMORELAND and ALLEGHENY Co., PA BINKLEY, MORGAN - Ohio SABOCK, YENETS, PERCICH - CAMBRIA Co., PA

Al, In case you don't know it, Monroeville's traffic has been a nightmare for YEARS! I grew up in the Mamont/Export area right next to Murrysville. The Miracle Mile was the only shopping center in that area. I don't think they had the mall in Greensburg back then (60s). Every time we come back that way it's worse and worse - maybe because we're used to living in an area where the cows haven't all been chased out yet! It's getting there, tho! Wasn't there a place called Johnny Garneau's Smorgasboard in Monroeville back then - or was that the Holiday House? I don't remember if it went bankrupt or burnt down (maybe one led to the other)?! Dee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Lenkner" <alenkner@stargate.net> To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Pittsburgh Nightclubs circa 1940-1950's > Barb, > > I was being facetious about Plum Boro. Since they chased the cows out, > there is a lot of development going on in Plum Boro. When they run out of > room to develop Plum, the next stop for those eastward bound will be > Westmoreland County and that's on fire now with all the development going > on east of Monroeville. I can remember when the Miracle Mile and the > Holiday House where the only real attractions in Monroeville. Now it's a > nightmare with traffic congestion rivalling downtown Pgh. I think that may > be one of the reason that Rob Cochran is building his new showroom out on 22. > > Al > > > > At 09:12 PM 12/31/2001, you wrote: > >Hi Al > >Went to a party at my nephew's house who lives in Plum Boro. It is near > >Monroeville and Penn Hills. He lives in a housing development that is rather > >new. Very nice homes there. > >Barb > > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > >How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > >that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ______________________________

Toni, You are a late comer !! My gggf discovered the niceties of Plum in 1864. What a commute in those days from and to dawntawn. Mac

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Toni, You're probably 100 percent correct on both counts. Traffic is so bad that I'll shop almost anywhere else just to avoid the traffic. It'll be very interesting to see what he builds, considering the size of his dealerships now. It'll probably resemble in size the Expo Mart. Al At 01:00 PM 1/2/2002, you wrote: >Rob is building it because the land was a steal compared to land further >down in Monroeville. Lowe's may go into his old place there. > >I moved into Plum to be in the country, lo and behold the country moved out! >debi > > >>From: Al Lenkner <alenkner@stargate.net> >>Reply-To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >>To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Pittsburgh Nightclubs circa 1940-1950's >>Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 14:17:16 -0500 >> >>Barb, >> >>I was being facetious about Plum Boro. Since they chased the cows out, >>there is a lot of development going on in Plum Boro. When they run out of >>room to develop Plum, the next stop for those eastward bound will be >>Westmoreland County and that's on fire now with all the development going >>on east of Monroeville. I can remember when the Miracle Mile and the >>Holiday House where the only real attractions in Monroeville. Now it's a >>nightmare with traffic congestion rivalling downtown Pgh. I think that may >>be one of the reason that Rob Cochran is building his new showroom out on 22. >> >>Al > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Mary, Have you tried to find the marriage application at the Marriage License Bureau in the City/County building on Grant Street? Have you looked for them in the 1920, 1910, 1900 and 1880 censuses (in that order)? Have you obtained the PA state Death certificates for those who died after 1906? Have you looked for the newspaper obituaries? All these sources will give you a bit more information and start to quilt a picture of the family as a whole. Best wishes, Elissa On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 10:08:41 -0600 "Mary Smith" <smithmary@attbi.com> writes: > Listers, > I am about to the end of my rope on these names - especially > Binlein! > Has anyone ever known anyone with these names; > Binlein > Feld > Loeffler > Carney > I believe all these names were in Pittsburgh (South Side) by the > 1890's but > it could have been earlier. I have info that says my > great-grandmother > Binlein was born in Nicktown, PA. I believe the rest were born in > Pittsburgh. All four of these families were Catholic. I've written > to the > Diocese but with such sketchy info as I have, they couldn't find > anything. > Here is a little more info, maybe this will ring a bell > Philip Feld(1874-1937) married Philomena (Minnie) Binlein(1882-1956) > probably in or about 1900 probably in Pittsburgh. I understand > Philip may > have been a glassblower, Minnie was seamstress and possibly also > hung > wallpaper. Both are buried in St. Michael's Catholic Cemetery in > Pittsburgh > Joseph Loeffler(1877-1957) married Mary Carney(1873-1937) probably > in or > about 1900 probably in Pittsburgh. Joseph was a police officer > probably for > the city of Pittsburgh but possibly for Mt. Oliver - where they > lived. Both > are buried in Calvary Catholic Cemetery in Pittsburgh > > I'm hoping someone can give me the hope that you may have heard of > these > names, even if you're not related. I greatly appreciate any help, > advice or > hope you can offer! > > Mary > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, > Nost-TV, Palm-Gen, and Westie > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

Ok, Al, Thanks, I have never been over Tampa way yet! But I have heard of it! Cathy Raber ----- Original Message ----- From: Cathy Raber pigeonrock@earthlink.net To: Cathy, Valrico is about 5 miles east of Tampa in Hillsborough County. Al At 04:17 PM 12/31/2001, you wrote: Valrico? What part of FL. I'm in Central, but have heard of it somehow! Cathy Raber ----- Original Message ----- From: Kelimadera@aol.com To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 2:12 AM Subject: [PITTSBURGH] WOOD - Charles Wesley Does anyone know of a Charles Wesley Wood? He married a Birdie Fielding and had five children (all born in Pittsburgh): John Delano m. Evelyn? Mabel Marian Robert (had two sons, Daniel and Thomas) Charles William b. 1 April 1918 in Pittsburgh, PA - 7 September 1989 in Valrico, FL Charles William was the youngest of the five and my grandfather. . He married Elizabeth Jane Pfeiffer (b. 1922) on 27 Nov 1943 in Pittsburgh and had four children: Laura Elizabeth b. 1946 - d. 1967 Karen Suzanne b. 1950 James Frederick b. 1953 Douglas Charles b. 1956 (this is my father) This is all the information that my father and I have been able to come up with at the moment. My grandfather had a sort of falling out with his family, which explains why there is such a lack of information. If anyone can give us any leads whatsoever, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Kelley Wood Fullerton, CA ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571 sourceid=1237 ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571 sourceid=1237 --- Cathy Raber --- pigeonrock@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.

Rob is building it because the land was a steal compared to land further down in Monroeville. Lowe's may go into his old place there. I moved into Plum to be in the country, lo and behold the country moved out! debi >From: Al Lenkner <alenkner@stargate.net> >Reply-To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Pittsburgh Nightclubs circa 1940-1950's >Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 14:17:16 -0500 > >Barb, > >I was being facetious about Plum Boro. Since they chased the cows out, >there is a lot of development going on in Plum Boro. When they run out of >room to develop Plum, the next stop for those eastward bound will be >Westmoreland County and that's on fire now with all the development going >on east of Monroeville. I can remember when the Miracle Mile and the >Holiday House where the only real attractions in Monroeville. Now it's a >nightmare with traffic congestion rivalling downtown Pgh. I think that may >be one of the reason that Rob Cochran is building his new showroom out on >22. > >Al _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

Al, Your obliviously from Sinatra generation, but speaking from a 60's generation, listening to some of the artists, lately like the Backstreet Boys, or N-Sync, You obviously haven't heard Boys 2 Men (though they've dropped off the scenes now), the harmony groups are still more famous than ever. What about harry Connick Jr. is up there with his voice? He does great with allot of those Sinatra-like balled songs! Yes, I do agree that Sinatra was a jewell, don't forget about Dino Martin, Andy Williams, Perry Como give the Nat King Cole's their due too! Bennett can still is out there thrilling the crowds, even me these days! I do agree that the "sex" thing will always be there. Young people are always swayed by that "unknown thing", but these artists, like Destiny's Child (all woman group of three like the Supreme's of the 60's) are great listening. Young people see through some of the hype, give them credit, just like we could see through it when we were young! Fellow lister, Cathy Raber ----- Original Message ----- From: Al Lenkner To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: 1/1/02 1:47:46 PM Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Pittsburgh Nightclubs circa 1940-1950's Ginnie, You won't have to worry about fitting into a phone booth as a member of Mac's fan club with that remark! Right, Mac? Seriously, before the Hill District was leveled for the Civic Arena and before the riots of '68, there were a lot of night spots all over the Pgh region, drawing a lot of the name entertainers but greed and economics killed most of them and TV can probably share some of the blame. Most of the singers popular today with the young kids, well, at least the younger crowd, probably wouldn't have made it 50 years ago. They are selling sex as much as, if not more than, the music that they deliver. Comparing them to Sinatra, Bennett, Torme and others of that generation is a joke. Most of today's stars couldn't even warm up the audience; they would have been booed from existence. Al At 05:40 PM 12/31/2001, you wrote: thanks, Al, Bill Green had the primo night club when I was a kid. Drew in great bands, and wasn't too far from the old Allegheny Airport on Rt 51. I will ask Mac. You are right, he is older. Much older. ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571 sourceid=1237 ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571 sourceid=1237 --- Cathy Raber --- pigeonrock@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.

Listers, I am about to the end of my rope on these names - especially Binlein! Has anyone ever known anyone with these names; Binlein Feld Loeffler Carney I believe all these names were in Pittsburgh (South Side) by the 1890's but it could have been earlier. I have info that says my great-grandmother Binlein was born in Nicktown, PA. I believe the rest were born in Pittsburgh. All four of these families were Catholic. I've written to the Diocese but with such sketchy info as I have, they couldn't find anything. Here is a little more info, maybe this will ring a bell Philip Feld(1874-1937) married Philomena (Minnie) Binlein(1882-1956) probably in or about 1900 probably in Pittsburgh. I understand Philip may have been a glassblower, Minnie was seamstress and possibly also hung wallpaper. Both are buried in St. Michael's Catholic Cemetery in Pittsburgh Joseph Loeffler(1877-1957) married Mary Carney(1873-1937) probably in or about 1900 probably in Pittsburgh. Joseph was a police officer probably for the city of Pittsburgh but possibly for Mt. Oliver - where they lived. Both are buried in Calvary Catholic Cemetery in Pittsburgh I'm hoping someone can give me the hope that you may have heard of these names, even if you're not related. I greatly appreciate any help, advice or hope you can offer! Mary

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After much searching I am not > > able to determine where to look ( which ED#) for > > Linhart in the 1910 and 1920 census images. > > Thanks > > > > ===== > > Phyllis Frameli > > POINTer #4554 > > ICC #427 > > > > layne@mississippi.net > > Researching- FRAGOMELI, DiBROGGINI, PETROLO, and associated families; MANCUZZO, JANSANTE, CAMPESI, BRIOLI, TASSONE, FRAMELI, CHIARA, RULLO, ALLRED, HOLDER, HOGUE/HOGE, BOBO, JOHNSON, GRIFFITH, > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > > > ______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Linhart, PA > > Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 11:29:35 -0500 > > From: espowell@juno.com > > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Phyllis, > > The 1910 and 1920 index is known as the SOUNDEX. The surname codes up to > > a letter and 3 numbers and they use that to help you find your ancestor > > in the actual census pages. So once your surname is coded (see > > http://www.nara.gov/genealogy/coding.html ) then you would look in the > > appropriate year soundex microfilm for your head of household. (Only head > > of households were indexed, along with anyone whose surname was different > > than the head of household.) The soundex microfilm will then give you the > > ED and page number that you would use in the census to see the entire > > household's information. > > > > Hope that helps. > > > > Where are your Italians from? > > > > -- Elissa > > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 07:15:01 -0800 (PST) Phyllis Frameli > > <phyl8@yahoo.com> writes: > > > Can someone help please? After much searching I am not able to > > determine where to look > > > (which ED#) for Linhart in the 1910 and 1920 census images. > > > Thanks > > > > > > ===== > > > Phyllis Frameli > > > POINTer #4554 > > > ICC #427 > > > > > > layne@mississippi.net > > > Researching- FRAGOMELI, DiBROGGINI, PETROLO, and associated > > > families; MANCUZZO, JANSANTE, CAMPESI, BRIOLI, TASSONE, FRAMELI, > > > CHIARA, RULLO, ALLRED, HOLDER, HOGUE/HOGE, BOBO, JOHNSON, GRIFFITH, > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > > > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > > > How to unsubscribe. Send a message > > > to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com that contains ONLY the word, > > > 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > records, go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > > > ______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Linhart, PA > > Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 08:50:08 -0800 (PST) > > From: Phyllis Frameli <phyl8@yahoo.com> > > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Elissa, > > > > I am a little confused, where do I enter the surname > > soundex code to find the ED? I didn't see any > > instructions on NARA page. > > Thanks > > Phyllis > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > > > ______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Linhart, PA > > Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 12:03:16 -0500 > > From: espowell@juno.com > > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > > > The NARA page tells you how to code up the soundex. You will need to get > > the soundex microfilm for that soundex code for the state in which your > > people lived. Once you have the soundex microfilm, you will go down > > through the photos of the soundex cards until you find your people. On > > their card is the ED and page number which will direct you to the actual > > census entry. > > > > You then roll up the soundex microfilm and go to the State, County, and > > ED in the actual census which was on the soundex card. Your family should > > be there with all their neighbors, etc. Look around the neighborhood, as > > other family members might be near by. > > > > To read some of this for yourself, you may want to see > > http://www.nara.gov/genealogy/genindex.html#guides which tells you how to > > use the NARA guides to find the microfilms numbers that you will need. > > Whether your library has the films or you have to order them in, or go to > > the LDS family history center to order them, you will still need to know > > exactly which film it is you need. > > > > -- Elissa > > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 08:50:08 -0800 (PST) Phyllis Frameli > > <phyl8@yahoo.com> writes: > > > Elissa, > > > > > > I am a little confused, where do I enter the surname > > > soundex code to find the ED? I didn't see any > > > instructions on NARA page. > > > Thanks > > > Phyllis > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > > > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > > > How to unsubscribe. Send a message > > > to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com that contains ONLY the word, > > > 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > records, go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > > > ______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Unsubscribe > > Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 22:26:13 -0500 > > From: "Janet Nunn" <JanetNunn@email.msn.com> > > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <PA-PITTSBURGH-D-request@rootsweb.com> > > To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-D@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 1:01 AM > > Subject: PA-PITTSBURGH-D Digest V01 #421 > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Beech Family > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 10:26:28 -0500 > From: "Paula Murphy" <pjdm4@erols.com> > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > I am looking for any connections to John Beech. He is the 2nd husband of my > g-g-aunt Sarah Agnes McKeown who was born on August 29, 1873 and she was > alive at least until 1943. Her first husband was John P. Mellody who died > in 1917. > > I recently came across a small picture that has the caption on the back > "John, Elaine and Doris Beech in front of large haystack". Elaine is of a > size that you can't tell if she is a short grown woman or a teenager. Doris > looks to be about 5 or so. If anyone knows anything about this family, > please let me know. > > Happy Holidays! > > Paula > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Pittsburgh Nightclubs circa 1940-1950's > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 10:26:28 -0500 > From: "Paula Murphy" <pjdm4@erols.com> > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > I recently came across a bunch of souvenir photos of my parents taken at > nightclubs in Pittsburgh. I am wondering if any of them still exist or if > anyone can tell me anything about them. They are: > > Lenny Litman's Copa Pittsburgh at 818 Liberty Avenue > The New Hollywood Show Bar at 122 Sixth Street > Johnny Brown's New Club Cafe - for reservations phone Hiland 4962 > > By the way, if any of you frequented these places, my parents were Rita and > Paul Dudick. > > Thanks! > > Paula > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Travel mode 1850-1870 > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 10:25:21 -0700 > From: "Carol S." <aceso225@flash.net> > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > Can anyone tell me what would be the most common, affordable, mode of travel, East to West in Pennsylvania in the mid to late 1800's? Would it be by rail? What if a family was moving and had household goods to transport? Still rail, or if not, what other modes were available? > > Thanks in advance to anyone who has looked into this. Carol S. > > aceso225@flash.net > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [PITTSBURGH] ATTENTION Sue - new address > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 11:36:19 -0700 > From: "Carol S." <aceso225@flash.net> > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > Sue, > > When I entered your new address http://pages.zdnet.com/tomssue into my address book I'm told it's not a valid address. > > Help ?? Carol S. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Re: Linhart Pa > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 11:26:27 -0800 (PST) > From: Phyllis Frameli <phyl8@yahoo.com> > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > Thanks to everyone who helped with the ED# where > Linhart would be found. There are so many experienced > researchers on this list and everyone so helpful. > > Phyllis > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] ATTENTION Sue - new address > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 14:51:45 -0500 > From: "Sue M" <starshine166@attbi.com> > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > Carol, > Try it again, it worked for me from the link in your email. > Sue* > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carol S." <aceso225@flash.net> > To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 1:36 PM > Subject: [PITTSBURGH] ATTENTION Sue - new address > > > Sue, > > > > When I entered your new address http://pages.zdnet.com/tomssue into my > address book I'm told it's not a valid address. > > > > Help ?? Carol S. > > > > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > > Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, > Palm-Gen, and Westie > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > --- > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.310 / Virus Database: 171 - Release Date: 12/19/2001 > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] ATTENTION Sue - new address > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 15:03:45 EST > From: JRBEAB@aol.com > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > In a message dated 12/28/01 2:58:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, > starshine166@attbi.com writes: > > > When I entered your new address http://pages.zdnet.com/tomssue into my > > address book I'm told it's not a valid address. > > > > Carol, > I think you misunderstood! The address above is a web page address > not an email address. You must cut and paste the web page address to your > browser. > Betsy > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Travel mode 1850-1870 > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 15:24:02 -0500 > From: "Sue M" <starshine166@attbi.com> > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > Carol, > I would think that it would have to have been by rail, or the good old > fashioned horse and buggy. > Sue* > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Can anyone tell me what would be the most common, affordable, mode of > travel, East to West in Pennsylvania in the mid to late 1800's? Would it be > by rail? What if a family was moving and had household goods to transport? > Still rail, or if not, what other modes were available? > > > > Thanks in advance to anyone who has looked into this. Carol S. > > --- > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.310 / Virus Database: 171 - Release Date: 12/19/2001 > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Email Address? > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 14:29:08 -0700 > From: "Dee and Bob Stalioraitis" <bubucat@fone.net> > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > Hi Sue - > > I misplaced your new email address ? Sorry to send this to the list but I > didn't know how else to contact you. > > Dee > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Travel mode 1850-1870 > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 14:51:35 -0700 > From: "Carol S." <aceso225@flash.net> > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > Sandy Key in Beaver sent an excerpt from a newspaper which was very > informative. Would you like a copy? Carol > > > Carol, > > I would think that it would have to have been by rail, or the good old > > fashioned horse and buggy. > > Sue* > > > > > Can anyone tell me what would be the most common, affordable, mode of > > travel, > Version: 6.0.310 / Virus Database: 171 - Release Date: > 12/19/2001 > > > > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List > > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [Pittsburgh] Famous Food > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 18:24:54 -0500 > From: "Sue M" <starshine166@attbi.com> > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [Pittsburgh] Famous Food > > What food is your city or town known for? > Where's the best place to get it? > > Send us the answers to these two questions and we'll publish it in > the January Issue of The New Colonist! Please include your name and > city. Send to editor@newcolonist.com by Dec. 30. > > Look for our look at urban food appearing January 1 at > http://www.newcolonist.com > > Sue* > > --- > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.310 / Virus Database: 171 - Release Date: 12/19/2001 > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [PITTSBURGH] SATLER and EYRICH in Pittsburgh 1850 > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 15:32:47 -0800 > From: "Raymond Boniker" <IRAY@msn.com> > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > I've recently found that I am connected to two (new to me) families in Pittsburgh. They are Martin SATLER, who had a son named George, and George Jacob EYRICH, who had sons named George and Jacob. Both families immigrated from Germany in the 1840s, both settled in the old Bayardstown area (now the Strip District). Most of them are buried in Smithfield Cemetery, Homewood. Anything sound familiar to anyone? > > Ray Boniker > IRAY@msn.com > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Travel mode 1850-1870 > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 18:28:40 -0500 > From: "Sue M" <starshine166@attbi.com> > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > Yes. > Sue* > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Sandy Key in Beaver sent an excerpt from a newspaper which was very > > informative. Would you like a copy? Carol > > --- > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.310 / Virus Database: 171 - Release Date: 12/19/2001 > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Travel mode 1850-1870 > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 21:54:15 -0500 > From: espowell@juno.com > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > The Forbes Road follows what is now Rt. 40 (and roughly the PA turnpike) > from the eastern settlements of PA at Philadelphia to the west just south > of Pittsburgh and into Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh was a common destination > for those going further west as they would get on a river boat there and > have access to Ohio, Kentucky, etc. all the way to New Orleans. For more > information see "Indian Trails to Super Highways" by William H. Shank and > "Map Guide to American Migration Routes, 1735-1815" by William > Dollarhide. > > Besides road and rail (RRs didn't come into play until the 1850's) there > was also canals. These were in existence in the east and west of the > Allegheny mountains, but not through the mountains. The portage railroad > would haul settlers, goods, and boats over the mountains. This had a > short life time due to the slowness of canal travel vs. railroads which > were improving and spreading all the time. For more information see "The > Amazing Pennsylvania Canals" by William H. Shank. > > Hope that is helpful. > > -- Elissa > > On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 15:24:02 -0500 "Sue M" <starshine166@attbi.com> > writes: > > Carol, > > I would think that it would have to have been by rail, or the good > > old > > fashioned horse and buggy. > > Sue* > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > Can anyone tell me what would be the most common, affordable, mode > > of > > travel, East to West in Pennsylvania in the mid to late 1800's? > > Would it be > > by rail? What if a family was moving and had household goods to > > transport? > > Still rail, or if not, what other modes were available? > > > > > > Thanks in advance to anyone who has looked into this. Carol S. > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.310 / Virus Database: 171 - Release Date: 12/19/2001 > > > > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > > SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

Unsubscribe William Phillips wrote: > I subcribed to this site for informational and genealogy info but what > I get is the Al & Sue chat room,and sometimes it gets a bit raunchy. > I am no prude but enough is enough,I know where the "delete" key > is but I think the keyword here is "unsubscribe" so would please > unsubscribe me > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Unsubscribe PA-PITTSBURGH-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: > > PA-PITTSBURGH-D Digest Volume 01 : Issue 419 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Re: [PITTSBURGH] (no subject) [Al Lenkner <alenkner@stargate.net>] > #2 Re: [PITTSBURGH] (no subject) ["Norma Fischer" <njf@toolcity.net>] > #3 Re: [PITTSBURGH] (no subject) [Ginnie601@aol.com] > #4 Re: [PITTSBURGH] (no subject) [Ginnie601@aol.com] > > Administrivia: > SUE MCALISTER, LIST OWNER > To unsubscribe from PA-PITTSBURGH-D, send a message to > > PA-PITTSBURGH-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > To contact the PA-PITTSBURGH-D list administrator, send mail to > PA-PITTSBURGH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] (no subject) > Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 22:15:52 -0500 > From: Al Lenkner <alenkner@stargate.net> > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > Ginnie, > > Better lay off the Gin. I couldn't figure out what you were talking about > until I read the part about more Gin and then I realized that you meant > that you were in a phone "booth", not a phone "book" as you wrote. Is your > name really Ginnie or is that a nickname because of your favorite > libation? I hope that you weren't smoking in that booth. Alcohol fumes > ignite very easily! > > Al > > At 10:54 AM 12/22/2001, you wrote: > >Hi Al, well, here we are in our phone book..........Mac is reading Tolstoy, > >and we just finished an Italian dinner. Haven't had dessert yet. Thought > >we would send you a note before Mac heads back to the big city. Ginnie > >Ps: It isn't Tolstoy it's the Gulag Peninsula, it takes longer, time for more > >GIN. > > > > > > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > >Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, > >Palm-Gen, and Westie > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] (no subject) > Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 22:38:47 -0500 > From: "Norma Fischer" <njf@toolcity.net> > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > Al, Mac and Ginnie, > I had the same trouble figuring out how Ginnie and Mac 'were in a phone > book'. About an hour later a light bulb went off in my addled brain and I > realized you meant phone booth. As Mac is fond of saying, "Have you been in > the cooking sherry again?" > How about the three of you having a Merry Christmas----OK.? > Norma a/k/a Teeny Bopper > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Al Lenkner" <alenkner@stargate.net> > To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 10:15 PM > Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] (no subject) > > > Ginnie, > > > > Better lay off the Gin. I couldn't figure out what you were talking about > > until I read the part about more Gin and then I realized that you meant > > that you were in a phone "booth", not a phone "book" as you wrote. Is > your > > name really Ginnie or is that a nickname because of your favorite > > libation? I hope that you weren't smoking in that booth. Alcohol fumes > > ignite very easily! > > > > Al > > > > > > > > At 10:54 AM 12/22/2001, you wrote: > > >Hi Al, well, here we are in our phone book..........Mac is reading > Tolstoy, > > >and we just finished an Italian dinner. Haven't had dessert yet. > Thought > > >we would send you a note before Mac heads back to the big city. Ginnie > > >Ps: It isn't Tolstoy it's the Gulag Peninsula, it takes longer, time for > more > > >GIN. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > > >Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, > > >Palm-Gen, and Westie > > > > > >============================== > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > > >go to: > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > > Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, > Palm-Gen, and Westie > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] (no subject) > Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 23:13:29 EST > From: Ginnie601@aol.com > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > my first name is Virginia. I get that about 1/3 of the time and Ginnie the > rest of the time. Mac is a hoot. Came to Wheeling to help me with a pdf. > Never found out what that was. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] (no subject) > Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 23:30:39 EST > From: Ginnie601@aol.com > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > sorry this went to the list, I meant it for the elusive Al.