--=======4481742B======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-A4F781C; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mac, I just received a CD titled "History of Pittsburgh" by Sarah H. Killikelly, originally publich in Pgh in 1906. It backs up what you've been saying about the 5th Ward but it was printed after the 1876 Atlas. For the interest of others, I'll include some of the chronology listed for Pgh. 1813-14 Building of the Allegheny Arsenal 1816 Mar 8 Pgh incorporated as a city 1816 May or Pgh, Ebenezer Denny 1816 Bayardstown and Lawrenceville laid out. 1816 Charters granted for the first bridges over the Monongahela and Allegheny. 1817 259 factories and manufactories. 1818 Monongahela bridge opened 1819 Feb 18 Charter of Western University 1820 First Allegheny bridge opened 1820 Population, 7,248 1821 Gas found by cook and McClelland while boring for salt water, on Little Chartiers Creek, six miles from Washington, PA 1826 Bill authorizing the Pennsylvania Canal. 1827 Completion of the State Prison; cost $183,092 1828 Apr 14 Allegheny and Birmingham incorporated into boroughs 1828 Dec First waterworks went into operation 1829 Apr 23 The Northern Liberties became a borough. 1829 Nov 10 First canal boat entered Pgh, THREE years after the canal was authorized. Today is would take 20+ years! 1829 Dec 4 The city was divided into four wards, North, South, East, and West. 1830 Population of Pgh and environs, 22,461. Pgh tripled its population in 10 years! 1831 First steam ferry 1832 A sourge of cholera 1833-34 Legilature amended the city charter and the mayor was elected from the body of the people 1834 Apr 16 Completion of the canal from the coast (???) to Pgh 1835 Sep First common schools opened in Pgh 1837 The four wards of the city were denominated First, Second, Third, and fourth, and the Norther Liberties were incorporated as the Fifth Ward. This information on the location of the Fifth Ward is contradicted by the map from the 1876 Atlas of the County of Allegheny which shows the Fifth Ward to be south of Ross St, not east of 11th St. 1837 First fire Insurance Company of Pgh. Sounds like good timing to me! 1837 The Panic! 1837 Apr 5 City first lighted by gas. 1844 Second system of waterworks put into operation. 1845 GREAT FIRE!! fifty-six acres of Pgh consumed. 1846 First telegraphic communication with the east. 1847 Jan 1 First hospital "The Mercy" 1850 Population of Pgh proper, 46,601; including the suburbs (?), 55,583 1850 Value of Pgh manufactures, 50 million dollars 1851 Pgh and Ohio RR completed to Beaver; 1851 Jul 1 First locomotive, "The Salem," arrived by canal. --=======4481742B======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-A4F781C Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.656 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 4/9/2004 --=======4481742B=======--

Biery, Sarah Luoisa Born November 12, 1852 dau of Simon & Sarah Barthol Married December 27, 1873 to Joseph K. Biery Died May 14, 1888 35 years, 6 months 2 days Source Salem Reformed Church Moore Township, PA 1977-1939 Lori

>From another list: The Bremen, Germany Chamber of Commerce has a website with passanger lists available for searching. http://db.genealogy.net/maus/gate/shiplists.cgi?lang=en In an aside, the person who posted the message concerning the free census lists at that Colorado library through Heritage Quest was really busy. I have seen his posting on numerous other lists as well. Not surprising they were overwhelmed.

After posting the message on the above subject I thought of using Google to see whether there was anything online related to the above. All the information that is included in the book can be found online; as the URL is long and I am notorius to making errors in URLs I recommend that those interested do a search using Google. Search for " Soldiers Record Publishing Association" It appears that the servicemen from each state has a page of their own. From the state page the book has been aphlabetically indexed with links to the photos which are about twice the size of those in the book as they are loading. Once loaded the page is reduced so the photos are all but illegible. Jerry Dittman Boonsboro, MD

I had a chance to get to the library today and this is the information on the Service Men in WW I. !. This book covers only those who died while in the service 2. The photos are THUMBNAIL size in no particular order. 3. The set up is by state with an alphabetical list following each states photos. These lists are sorted by rank and some by specialty like cook, bugler, etc. 4. Each listing includes the city in which the person lived, so, it will help determine where the person shown is the one you are looking for. Book Title: SOLDIERS of the GREAT WAR in 3 volumes Complied By: W. M. Haulsee, F. G. Howe, A. C. Doyle Published By: Soldiers Record Publications Associatio Washington, DC Volume coverage: Volume 1. Alabama through Maryland Volume 2. Mass. through Ohio Volume 3. Oklahoma thorough Wisconsin plus a Supplement Pennsylvania photos are covered in Volume 2 on Pages 45 through 166. As these are not in alphabetical order you have to view each photo and the name attached to locate one you may be looking for. The publisher may or may not be in business today, or have been taken over by another entity. Jerry Dittman Boonsboro, MD

I am interested in any info on the MURRAY family of the 19th and 20th centuries in Braddock then Oakland areas of Pittsburgh Catherine McGrath MURRAY, born in Ireland married Michael MURRAY living in Braddock Borough when widowed early with three known children: Frances MURRAY, a teacher who lived in Oakland area of Pittsburgh b. 23 March, 1892 d. May 1973 Margaret Muray, lived with sister Frances in Oakland b. 1 October, 1888 d. December, 1977 Michael b. ? d. 8 March, 1955 As a widow, Catherine (Katie) founded the store KM Murray. Anyone remember that large business? Any help/info would be gratefully received from this relative! - Eileen

Cindy, I have had the same problem with my Great Grandmother Anna E. Phillips last seen on census 1910. So after many queries I finally decided to take a chance and $34.00 and have a ten year search done at New Castle, PA. Thats where all the death records are after I believe 1910. If you want a wider search the is a $15.00 charge I believe. The way to download the form you can go to www.health.state.pa.us/vitalrecords You must send with the form check, and a valid government issued Photo ID. You can send a copy of your drivers lic. but I really didn't want to do that so I sent a copy of my Passport. Your picture and pertinent information is on there and was accepted but not your whole life history as is on your drivers lic. Good Luck Alice California

I just received great information from the Diocese of Pittsburgh about my ggrandparents! However, the letter I received states they do not have any death records for St. Malachy Church or St. John the Evangelist Church, the two Irish Catholic churches that served the South Side. I don't have their death dates, probably between 1910-1932. They seemed to have lived at the same address (211 Brownsville Rd) from 1880 until 1930. I've narrowed it down to these years by researching the census records, police pension funds, etc. I was hoping the Diocese would have a record of their deaths, but. . . nothing. Any clues as to my next step? Thanks, Cindy Famoso Researching: Cotter and Geary (or Gearey) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

Are death records for 1928 and 1929 available for public review. I do not know last married name of relative sought. Am not concerned with obtaining copy of death certificate. I just want to review all deaths recorded in Pittsburgh. Will travel to Pittsburgh if I can review the records as I did in West Virginia at courthouse.

A newcomer to the list I am searching for living members/relatives/friends of the Gorham family to whom I am related. Annie GORHAM b. Oct. 1873 near Clifden, Cty Galway, IRELAND d. 1970, buried in All Saints' Cemetery, Braddock and her spouse Michael J. "Mike" GORHAM b. IRELAND d. Braddock Borough, Alleghany Cty, PA before 1910 and buried in All Saints' Braddock Their children - all born in Pittsburgh - included: Agnes b. 1900 (died young) Primus b. 1896 d. 1971 and buried in All Saints' Braddock William b. 1898 and may have moved to NY Michael J. b. 1903 Any help would be gratefully received! - Eileen

Marriage 1842 http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/philadelphia/vitals/ppl03211843.txt So sorry, I have no knowledge of this gentleman, the site was included with the daily uploads. Nan

What about checking into the Soldiers & Sailor's webpage online, & contact them to see what records they might have on your relation. Its a great building with statues inside & outside! Or if your traveling into Midwest stop by & check this summer, like I plan to while I'm researching in the areas near-by. I'll try to report back as to what they do have/ Tune in to the list in August! Cathy Raber > [Original Message] > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 3/23/2004 9:16:05 PM > Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Many Pittsburgers in WW1 > > In a message dated 3/23/2004 6:34:19 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] > writes: > There exist a book which contains 100's of photos of WW I service men. If, > anyone is interested in the title I'll check for the book on my visit to the > local library. > > Jerry Dittman > Boonsboro, MD > Jerry, My grandfather, Clarence W. Cargo was in WW I. He was an ambulance > driver in the infantry. His brother, William Cargo, was supposedly in the > airforce. If you get a chance to look, I would love to know if any photos exist of > them in the military. > > Thanks so much! > > Ellen Reed > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:[email protected] that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

In a message dated 3/23/2004 6:34:19 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: There exist a book which contains 100's of photos of WW I service men. If, anyone is interested in the title I'll check for the book on my visit to the local library. Jerry Dittman Boonsboro, MD Jerry, My grandfather, Clarence W. Cargo was in WW I. He was an ambulance driver in the infantry. His brother, William Cargo, was supposedly in the airforce. If you get a chance to look, I would love to know if any photos exist of them in the military. Thanks so much! Ellen Reed

There exist a book which contains 100's of photos of WW I service men. If, anyone is interested in the title I'll check for the book on my visit to the local library. Jerry Dittman Boonsboro, MD ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 7:03 PM Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Many Pittsburgers in WW1 > --------excerpt from the DAILY-UPLOADS Mailing List-------------- > > http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/1pa/military/ww1/ww1-ae.txt > http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/1pa/military/ww1/ww1-fk.txt > http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/1pa/military/ww1/ww1-lr.txt > http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/1pa/military/ww1/ww1-sz.txt > > ==== DAILY-UPLOADS Mailing List ==== > To SUBSCRIBE, UNSUBSCRIBE, or view all previous > Daily Upload Reports, go to: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/dailyuploads/dailies.htm > > > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > If you need to contact the listowner, send an email to Sue* at: > painter-mcalister-ancestry.comcast.net > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

I would be interested. Please post the title when you get a chance to visit the library. -----Original Message----- From: Jerome Dittman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 6:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Many Pittsburgers in WW1 There exist a book which contains 100's of photos of WW I service men. If, anyone is interested in the title I'll check for the book on my visit to the local library. Jerry Dittman Boonsboro, MD ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 7:03 PM Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Many Pittsburgers in WW1 > --------excerpt from the DAILY-UPLOADS Mailing List-------------- > > http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/1pa/military/ww1/ww1-ae.txt > http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/1pa/military/ww1/ww1-fk.txt > http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/1pa/military/ww1/ww1-lr.txt > http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/1pa/military/ww1/ww1-sz.txt > > ==== DAILY-UPLOADS Mailing List ==== > To SUBSCRIBE, UNSUBSCRIBE, or view all previous > Daily Upload Reports, go to: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/dailyuploads/dailies.htm > > > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > If you need to contact the listowner, send an email to Sue* at: > painter-mcalister-ancestry.comcast.net > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== VISIT THE PITTSBURGH MRC AT: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bjsst3/Home.htm ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

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Hi Kelley...I found a pension for Capt. Charles W. Chapman...granted to his mother, Maria Chapman. I can't quite read the date but it looks like 31 Jan. or June 1865...application # 81259, certificate # 51280...Co. K, 63 PA Inf. Since his pension went to his mother, I assume he was unmarried. I would suggest you send for the pension which should give more information...give them both numbers. According to a regimental "history", he & Quartermaster Lysle were killed in a skirmish on the picket line near Ft. Lyon (probably in VA), the "first men to fall in action". You may be able to find more about Ft. Lyon on the internet. Enlistments for the 63 rd PA Inf. were men from Allegheny, Beaver, Clarion, Venango & Mercer Cos., PA. In the 1850 Allegheny Co. census (Pittsburgh, ward 3) is: William Chapman, 55, pot maker in glass house(?) Maria Chapman, 50 James Chapman, 23, clerk Joseph Chapman, 18 (can't read occupation) William Chapman, 22 " " " Charles W. Chapman, 12 Nancy Armstrong, 25 1860 Pgh, ward 3: William Chapman, 68, tobaccoist, b Ireland Maria, 60 Nancy Armstrong, 40 Ann Chapman, 12 Charles W. is not with thw family & I don't find him anywhere in that census EXCEPT 1860 Clarion Co., PA - East Mauch Chunk: Joseph H. Chapman, 57, carpenter Martha Chapman, 46 Charles W. Chapman, 22, engineer (he is the right age to be your man but his mother's name is wrong) Willard J. Chapman, 14 James Chapman, 13 Hope this helps. Jane

Does anybody have any information on a Captain Charles Wesley Chapman, as in when he was born, where he may have lived? The reason I am asking is because he was the captain of Company K, AKa "Hays Guards" , of the 63rd regiment, during the Civil War and was captain over my great-great-grandfather. My great-grandfather was named for him. I have this info on Captain Chapman, thanks to a photocopy of "The Story of the Sixty Third Regiment Pennsylvania Volunteers" that my cousin sent me: P. 392 "Charles W. Chapman, Captain -- Mustered in September 23, 1861. Killed on picket, March 5, 1862" Thanks! Kelley Wood Fullerton, California, USA email - [email protected] list administrator of the FIELDING, VAUTIER, and WALDSPURGER lists at Rootsweb.com _________________________________ Researching these surnames (mainly): Wood, Fielding, Pfeiffer, Bupp, Huether, Waldspurger, Guretse, Vautier, Cox, Sperry, Robbins, Hans, Hager Visit my free Rootsweb website - contains information about my Genealogical research: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kelleywood/index.html

Carol, Things sure have changed since then, except for the muddy Mon River :) Thanks for sharing this with us. Sue* -----Original Message----- I found this wonderful old description of Pittsburgh and wanted to share it: PITTSBURG, a post-town of Pennsylvania, the capital of Alleghany co. situated on a beautiful plain. The Alleghany, which is a beautiful clear stream, on the N. and the Monongahela, which is a muddy stream, on the S. uniting below where Fort du Quesne stood, form the majestic Ohio, which is there a quarter of a mile wide; 1,188 miles from its confluence with the Mississippi. This town was laid out on Penn's plan, in the year 1765, on the eastern bank of the Monongahela, about 200 yards from Fort du Quesne, which was taken from the French, by the British, in 1760, and who changed its name to Fort Pitt, in honour of the late Earl of Chatham. It contains about 200 houses, a gaol, court-house, Presbyterian church, a church for German Lutherans, an academy, two breweries, and a distillery. It has been lately fortified, and a party of troops stationed in it. By an enumeration made Dec. 1795, it appears that there were then 1,353 inhabitants in this borough; the number has considerably increased since. The naviation of the Ohio, in a dry season, is rather troublesome from Pittsburg to the MINGO-TOWN, about 75 miles; but from thence to the Mississippi, there is always water enough for barges, carrying from 100 to 200 tons burden, such as are used on the Thames, between London and Oxford, viz. from 100 to 120 feet keel, 16 to 18 feet in breadth, 4 feet in depth, and when loaded, drawing about 3 feet water. During the season of the floods in the spring, vessels of 100 or 200 tons burden may go from Pittsburg to the sea with safety, in 16 or 17 days, although the distance is upwards of 2,000 miles. It is 178 miles W. by N. of Carlisle, 303 in the same direction from Philadelphia, and 283 N. W. by N. of Alexandria in Virginia. N.lat.40 31 44, W.long.80 8. Source: Morse, Jedidiah, "The American Gazetteer," Abridged. Boston: Thomas and Andrews, 1798 Carol M. _________________________________________________________________ Get rid of annoying pop-up ads with the new MSN Toolbar - FREE! http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200414ave/direct/01/ ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== If you need to contact the listowner, send an email to Sue* at: painter-mcalister-ancestry.comcast.net ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

I found this wonderful old description of Pittsburgh and wanted to share it: PITTSBURG, a post-town of Pennsylvania, the capital of Alleghany co. situated on a beautiful plain. The Alleghany, which is a beautiful clear stream, on the N. and the Monongahela, which is a muddy stream, on the S. uniting below where Fort du Quesne stood, form the majestic Ohio, which is there a quarter of a mile wide; 1,188 miles from its confluence with the Mississippi. This town was laid out on Penn's plan, in the year 1765, on the eastern bank of the Monongahela, about 200 yards from Fort du Quesne, which was taken from the French, by the British, in 1760, and who changed its name to Fort Pitt, in honour of the late Earl of Chatham. It contains about 200 houses, a gaol, court-house, Presbyterian church, a church for German Lutherans, an academy, two breweries, and a distillery. It has been lately fortified, and a party of troops stationed in it. By an enumeration made Dec. 1795, it appears that there were then 1,353 inhabitants in this borough; the number has considerably increased since. The naviation of the Ohio, in a dry season, is rather troublesome from Pittsburg to the MINGO-TOWN, about 75 miles; but from thence to the Mississippi, there is always water enough for barges, carrying from 100 to 200 tons burden, such as are used on the Thames, between London and Oxford, viz. from 100 to 120 feet keel, 16 to 18 feet in breadth, 4 feet in depth, and when loaded, drawing about 3 feet water. During the season of the floods in the spring, vessels of 100 or 200 tons burden may go from Pittsburg to the sea with safety, in 16 or 17 days, although the distance is upwards of 2,000 miles. It is 178 miles W. by N. of Carlisle, 303 in the same direction from Philadelphia, and 283 N. W. by N. of Alexandria in Virginia. N.lat.40 31 44, W.long.80 8. Source: Morse, Jedidiah, "The American Gazetteer," Abridged. Boston: Thomas and Andrews, 1798 Carol M. _________________________________________________________________ Get rid of annoying pop-up ads with the new MSN Toolbar – FREE! http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200414ave/direct/01/