On May 17, 2004, at 1:58 PM, Szafranski, Bryan wrote: > Do you have any other Langs you are connected to? That is one of my > main branches, mostly from Pittsburgh. They were predominantly in the > South Hills. > > Bryan. Hi Brian, Presently I have very little information on that line of the family tree, but I'll share with you what I know at this time. LANG DESCENDANTS as known at this time, May 2004 First Generation ————————————————————————————————————————————— 1. Peter LANG.1 Born on 11 Sep 1852. Peter died in Sharpsburgh, PA, on 6 Dec 1926; he was 74.2 Buried in St Mary's Cemetary, Sharpshill, PA.3 Peter married Magdalena ZWICK4, in (date unknown, city, unknown). Born on 22 Dec 1854. Magdalena died on 2 Feb 1928; she was 73.5 NOTE: Peter and Magdalena begat 11 children, as noted on the PA Allegheny message board of rootsweb.com They had the following children (plus about 8 more which I do not know the names of just yet): 2 i. Leo Edward (1879-1954) 3 ii. Al 4 iii. Marcella Mathilda Catherine Second Generation ————————————————————————————————————————————— 2. Leo Edward LANG. Born on 17 May 1879 in Pittsburgh PA.6 Leo Edward died in Pittsburgh, Penna., on 18 Oct 1954; he was 75. Buried in St Mary's Cemetary, Lawrenceville Pennsylvania.7 Occupation: Machinist, Fort Mort Co - on 1920 census. Religion: Catholic. Leo Edward married Dorthea K. BLANK, daughter of Valentine BLANK & Catherine UILSACK, in (date unknown, Pittsburgh, PA). Born on 2 Jul 1876 in Pittsburgh PA.6 Dorthea K. died in Pittsburgh, Penna., on 11 Aug 1961; she was 85. They had the following children: 5 i. Herman (1909-1943) 6 ii. Catherine (1911-1957) 7 iii. Madeline Clara (1915-1990) 8 iv. Leo 3. Al LANG. Born. Al married Dora ? (LANG), in (date unknown, city, and church unknown). Born ? . NOTE: I do know know any information on that line of the family at this time. 4. Marcella Mathilda Catherine LANG. Marcella Mathilda Catherine married Matthew Thomas RUNT8. NOTE: I do know know any information on that line of the family at this time. Third Generation ————————————————————————————————————————————— 5. Herman LANG. Born on 7 Mar 1909. Herman died in the Phillipines, on 13 Jul 1943; he was 34. NOTE: Herman was awarded the purple heart while serving his country, and was stationed in the Phillipines at the time of death. Herman married Mary Lou ? (LANG - HIESLER), in (church and city and date of marriage - unknown). Born ? . They had no children. 6. Catherine LANG. Born on 27 Oct 1911 in Pittsburgh PA. Catherine died in Pittsburgh PA, on 31 Jul 1957; she was 45. Buried in Mt Carmel Cemetary, near Pittsburgh PA. Religion: Catholic. On 5 Aug 1936 when Catherine was 24, she married William J. BREHM, in Pittsburgh, PA.6 Born on 7 Sep 1911 in Pittsburgh PA. William J. died in Pittsburgh PA, on 30 Dec 1981; he was 70. They had the following children: 9 i. William John Joseph (1939-1992) 10 ii. Marilyn Ann (1942-) 11 iii. John Edward Joseph (1943-) 12 iv. James Joseph John (1946-) 7. Madeline Clara LANG. Born on 24 Jan 1915 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Madeline Clara died in Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas, on 14 Feb 1990; she was 75. Buried in Saint Mary's of the Assumumption Cemetery, Pine Creek, PA. Religion: Catholic. On 29 Dec 1937 when Madeline Clara was 22, she married Frank John SCHOLL Jr., son of Frank Joseph SCHOLL Sr. & Margaret Rosalia "Stella" CLAUS, in Pittsburgh, PA. Born on 21 Sep 1913 in Pennsylvania. Frank John died in Pittsburgh, Penna., on 29 Apr 1984; he was 70. Note: Frank "Bud" Scholl Jr. was his name as shown on his prayer card. They had the following children: 13 i. Elizabeth Ann "Betty" (1938-) 14 ii. Robert Francis "Bob" (1945-) 15 iii. Paul John (1949-) 16 iv. Lawrence Joseph (1951-) 8. Leo LANG. Born. Leo died ? . died as a young child, 2-3 yrs of age - cause of death ? Sources 1. “Phone interview with Marily McAvoy,” May 2004, from family bible. 2. “rootsweb.com message boards.” Pennsylvania > Counties > Allegheny Message board - provided dates (http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec? htx=message&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.a llegheny&m=4021.1550). 3. St Mary's Cemetyer, Sharpshill PA - online, http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~njm1/sec1e.htm, online cemetery records. 4. “Phone interview with Marily McAvoy,” names as written in May 2004, family bible. 5. “rootsweb.com message boards.” full dates of birth and death as noted on (http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec? htx=message&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.a llegheny&m=4021.1550). 6. “Phone interview with Marily McAvoy,” May 2004. 7. “St Mary's Cemetary, Lawrencevill, Penna,” http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~njm1/stmyo.htm, updated 2004, (online cemetery records for: SECTIONS "A, B, 2, 3") note Leo's death as 1954. 8. “rootsweb.com message boards.” Author: Thea J. King. 9. Paul J. Scholl, May 2004.

Since I'm so new to this list, and have no idea who else is active here, I thought I might also post the names a few of my ancestors from around the the Allegheny and Pittsburgh area. If anyone else on the list connects up to one of my ancestors - I would love to hear from you! Here are some of our ancestors from that area. 4 Gallitzin Joseph DUMAN. Born on 27 Oct 1903 in Nicktown, Cambria, Penna. Gallitzin Joseph died in Duquesne, Penna., on 6 Dec 1989; he was 86. Buried in Mt Carmel Cemetary (Penn Hills), near Pittsburgh PA. (Gallitzin was on of 9 children - parents were Henry Duman and Mary Philomena Parrish) - On 10 Jun 1930 when Gallitzin Joseph was 26, he married Agnes Marie PHALEN. 5 Agnes Marie PHALEN. Born on 17 Dec 1905 in Loretta, Cambria Co., Penna. Agnes Marie died in Pittsburgh, Penna., on 14 Nov 1961; she was 55. Buried in Mt Carmel Cemetary (Penn Hills), near Pittsburgh PA. (Agnes was one of 3 children - to parents of John C. Phalen and Annie Gonsman). 6 Frank John SCHOLL Jr. Born on 21 Sep 1913 in Pennsylvania. Frank John died in Pittsburgh, Penna., on 29 Apr 1984; he was 70. Buried in Saint Mary's of the Assumumption Cemetary. (Frank was one of 4 children - to parents Frank Scholl, Sr and Stella Claus) - On 29 Dec 1937 when Frank John was 24, he married Madeline Clara LANG, in Pittsburgh, PA. 7 Madeline Clara LANG. Born on 24 Jan 1915 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Madeline Clara died in Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas, on 14 Feb 1990; she was 75. Buried in Saint Mary's of the Assumumption Cemetary. (Madeline was one of 4 children - to parent Leo E. Lang and Dorthea K. Blank) 12 Frank Joseph SCHOLL Sr. Born on 29 Jan 1884 in Penna. Frank Joseph died in Pittsburgh, Penna., on 29 May 1952; he was 68. Buried in Saint Mary's of the Assumumption Cemetary. (Frank Scholl Sr was one of many children - to parents Jacob Scholl and Frances Margaret EBEL). - Frank Joseph married Margaret Rosalia "Stella" CLAUS, in unknown date and place. 13 Margaret Rosalia "Stella" CLAUS. Born on 22 Aug 1885 in Pine Creek, Allegheny Co, PA. Margaret Rosalia "Stella" died in Pittsburgh, Penna., on 28 Jun 1959; she was 73. Buried in Saint Mary's of the Assumumption Cemetary. (daughter of Michael Claus and Catherine Meinert) 14 Leo Edward LANG. Born on 17 May 1879 in Pittsburgh PA. Leo Edward died in Pittsburgh, Penna., on 18 Oct 1954; he was 75. Buried in St Mary's Cemetary, Lawrenceville Pennsylvania. ( Leo was one of about 11 children - to the parents of Peter Lang and Magdalena Zwick) - (Leo Edward married Dorthea K. BLANK, in (date unknown, Pittsburgh, PA). 15 Dorthea K. BLANK. Born on 2 Jul 1876 in Pittsburgh PA. Dorthea K. died in Pittsburgh, Penna., on 11 Aug 1961; she was 85. Buried in St Mary's Cemetary, Lawrenceville Pennsylvania. Religion: Catholic. (Dorthea was one of about 10 children to the parents of Valentine Blank and Catherine Uilsack) - Dorthea K. married Leo Edward LANG, in (date unknown, Pittsburgh, PA). Diane Duman Dunlap [email protected]

Gosh Cindy, it looks like we now know who to share your "gold mine of information with" and that would be - Norm - since he's in charge of that website. Email Norm <[email protected]> privately with your information so that he can get the Mount Carmel Cemetery of Penn Hills PA - website updated with more information! I just emailed him with my four family relatives whom I know are there, and along with your gold mine of information, His website can become another valuable resource with a current on-line listing for others just like us. Diane Duman Dunlap On May 17, 2004, at 7:21 AM, njm1 wrote: > Hi Diane, > > That's one of my webpages. If you want to add someone to the posted > list please contact me privately. > > Tnx -- Norm On May 16, 2004, at 10:47 PM, Cindy Famoso wrote: > I have relatives also buried at Mt Carmel. My cousin > that lives in Pittsburgh went there and found a "gold > mine" of information! Unfortunately, both of us have > found out there is no current on-line listing that we > know of. If there is one, I'd like to know, also! > Good Luck, > Cindy Famoso > Researching: Dess, Rakers, Cotter, Famoso, Prinzo

Hi Norm Would I be correct the in thinking - that what is currently on the list, at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~njm1/mtcarmel.htm is no complete then and is just waiting to be advised of more people who are buried there - and they you can add them to the list. Whew - I'm hoping that's the case since I didn't see my grandparents or my aunt and uncle that I know are buried there - listed on the message list. I'll Email you with their information so they can be added. Thanks Diane Dunlap On May 17, 2004, at 7:21 AM, njm1 wrote: > Hi Diane, > > That's one of my webpages. If you want to add someone to the posted > list please contact me privately. > > Tnx -- Norm > > To: [email protected] > > Hi ya'll > I have a few relatives buried at the below cemetery, and I was > wondering if anyone knows if a more current, updated online cemetery > inscription listing for that particular cemetery. > > Mount Carmel Cemetery > 7601 Mt. Carmel Road > Pittsburgh, PA 15235 > (Penn Hills Twp., Allegheny County) > (412) 241-1260 > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~njm1/mtcarmel.htm > > I attempted to contact the person who's email is on that website, but > it is no longer deliverable. :( > > Thanks, > Diane Duman Dunlap > down in Texas >> > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe. Send a message > to:[email protected] that contains ONLY the word, > 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hey folks, I updated the Death Notices pages over the weekend....mostly stuff from the McDonald Outlook (from the SW-Obits list, thanks Victoria). If you have anything, please send it to me, and I'll try to get it up as soon as possible. Sorry for the long delays, just had a ton of stuff to do lately at home, with little or no time to do much else. Bryan. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Bryan Szafranski PITTSBURGH PUBLIC SCHOOLS Office of Finance Site-Based Liaison 341 S. Bellefield Ave. Rm. 330 Pittsburgh, PA 15213-3516 (412) 622-3840 (phone) (412) 622-3857 (fax) http://www.pghboe.net -----------------------------------------------------------------

Hi Diane, That's one of my webpages. If you want to add someone to the posted list please contact me privately. Tnx -- Norm << Subject: c From: Diane Dunlap <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 10:12:36 -0500 To: [email protected] Hi ya'll I have a few relatives buried at the below cemetery, and I was wondering if anyone knows if a more current, updated online cemetery inscription listing for that particular cemetery. Mount Carmel Cemetery 7601 Mt. Carmel Road Pittsburgh, PA 15235 (Penn Hills Twp., Allegheny County) (412) 241-1260 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~njm1/mtcarmel.htm I attempted to contact the person who's email is on that website, but it is no longer deliverable. :( Thanks, Diane Duman Dunlap down in Texas >>

Rod I used to have quite a few websites for Pittsburgh but they accidentally got erased. I found this one on renting rooms. http://www.hotellocators.com/US/Pa?Pittsburgh/index2.htm<http://www.hotellocators.com/US/Pa?Pittsburgh/index2.htm>. Would you like me to find info on the places that you listed as wanting to visit? Barb

I have relatives also buried at Mt Carmel. My cousin that lives in Pittsburgh went there and found a "gold mine" of information! Unfortunately, both of us have found out there is no current on-line listing that we know of. If there is one, I'd like to know, also! Good Luck, Cindy Famoso Researching: Dess, Rakers, Cotter, Famoso, Prinzo --- Diane Dunlap <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi ya'll > I have a few relatives buried at the below > cemetery, and I was > wondering if anyone knows if a more current, updated > online cemetery > inscription listing for that particular cemetery. > > Mount Carmel Cemetery > 7601 Mt. Carmel Road > Pittsburgh, PA 15235 > (Penn Hills Twp., Allegheny County) > (412) 241-1260 > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~njm1/mtcarmel.htm > > I attempted to contact the person who's email is on > that website, but > it is no longer deliverable. :( > > Thanks, > Diane Duman Dunlap > down in Texas > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe. Send a message > to:[email protected] that contains > ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the > new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click > to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/

Thanks Barbara - Will check it out. Found a lot of sites for the places we are planning to research too. Really appreciate the help. Rod -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Mangan [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 6:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Pittsburgh Rod I used to have quite a few websites for Pittsburgh but they accidentally got erased. I found this one on renting rooms. http://www.hotellocators.com/US/Pa?Pittsburgh/index2.htm<http://www.hotelloc ators.com/US/Pa?Pittsburgh/index2.htm>. Would you like me to find info on the places that you listed as wanting to visit? Barb

Mac, The AIS? What's this.....forgive me, but it's Sunday morning, the old noggin still isn't functioning. Bryan. -----Original Message----- From: Diane Dunlap [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 10:25 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Re: 100 years (library versus Catholic Diocese records) Thanks so much for that correction Mac. I'll be sure to let my cousin know it too, so that when she and mom head up there to find some of their information they know the real scoop! On May 15, 2004, at 10:55 PM, Fred C McCutcheon wrote: > Diane, > I am afraid you have some oranges in the apple barrel. The Catholic > Diocese is the only record keeping group that seals the records for > 100 years. The Carnegie Library, Oakland Branch, has microfilms of > most of the Pittsburgh newspapers for hundreds of years. Many local > branches have local newspapers for the years they were published. > Birth and death certificates in Pennsylvania are kept by the state > since 1906 and are available at a fee for descendants only from the > Bureau of Vital Records at New Castle, PA. Records from the middle > 1880s to 1906 were kept by the individual counties and before that > only by church records. > The Carnegie Library and Soldiers and Sailors Memorial in Oakland, > the Heinz History Center in the strip and the AIS in Point Breeze are > all a fountain of information. Mac > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== If you need to contact the listowner, send an email to Sue* at: [email protected] ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hi ya'll I have a few relatives buried at the below cemetery, and I was wondering if anyone knows if a more current, updated online cemetery inscription listing for that particular cemetery. Mount Carmel Cemetery 7601 Mt. Carmel Road Pittsburgh, PA 15235 (Penn Hills Twp., Allegheny County) (412) 241-1260 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~njm1/mtcarmel.htm I attempted to contact the person who's email is on that website, but it is no longer deliverable. :( Thanks, Diane Duman Dunlap down in Texas

Thanks so much for that correction Mac. I'll be sure to let my cousin know it too, so that when she and mom head up there to find some of their information they know the real scoop! On May 15, 2004, at 10:55 PM, Fred C McCutcheon wrote: > Diane, > I am afraid you have some oranges in the apple barrel. The Catholic > Diocese is the only record keeping group that seals the records for > 100 years. The Carnegie Library, Oakland Branch, has microfilms of > most of the Pittsburgh newspapers for hundreds of years. Many local > branches have local newspapers for the years they were published. > Birth and death certificates in Pennsylvania are kept by the state > since 1906 and are available at a fee for descendants only from the > Bureau of Vital Records at New Castle, PA. Records from the middle > 1880s to 1906 were kept by the individual counties and before that > only by church records. > The Carnegie Library and Soldiers and Sailors Memorial in Oakland, > the Heinz History Center in the strip and the AIS in Point Breeze are > all a fountain of information. Mac >

Cathy & Rod Will get back to you about info that you want. Barb

Rod, You can ride the bus from HOmestead, which is on the way through Oakland, where the University if Pittsburgh, & the Soldiers & Sailors Memorial is. I'm thinking the latter is on Fifth Avenue or Forbes Avenue which are next to the other. And also the Carnegie Museum Library. And the the famous Dinosaur Museum also on either side of the building, & the W PA Genealogical society is there also! Downtown is less than half an hour bus ride, but not sure there's a hotel there. I was pretty sure, but check with a Travel agent. Does anyone know of a hotel there? I used to live in Squirrel Hill which is a hop-skip & Jump from both places! All the places you mention are on the net, so you can probably find an address for them. Does the YMCA have places, or is there any in town, anybody? Downtown PGH? Might check there or I know there's one in East Liverpool, OH an hour away from Pgh? It's only an hour from downtown PGH> Need more info, let me know. Cathy Raber > [Original Message] > From: Rod's Account <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 5/15/2004 1:02:05 PM > Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Visit suggestions > > A colleague and I are talking about doing a research trip in the Fall to > Pittsburgh - focus on the various library collections (Heinz, Carnegie > Mellon, Univ. of Pittsburgh, etc.) and their holdings related to the Civil > War. One thing we are trying to get a grasp on is lodging options for a > stay of about a week. Anyone got any good suggestions for relatively > inexpensive boarding in Pittsburgh? > > Thanks in advance. > > Rod > > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > If you need to contact the listowner, send an email to Sue* at: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Try searching for Cook. Mary Anne Cook IBSSG Frankfort, Indiana ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Nee > I have the same problem with our surname. > Imagine how many hits I get when people post phrases such as: > "Hunting for Hunt in Huntingdon County." > > Larry Hunt > Pittsburgh, PA > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:[email protected] that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Might I also suggest you phone ahead to the library and genealogy rooms to find out about availability of certain records you may want to see when you get there too. My cousin went up there about 10 years ago, to view family records (both her parents are deceased as well as her parents siblings too) and was told that all the records were sealed for 100 years and that she should have invested in a phone call before coming all the way from Texas to Pennsylvania. She was wanting to get a photo of her mom and her dad's birth certificate, had brought her own along with her too - but they would not help her at all. Diane On May 15, 2004, at 10:05 AM, Rod's Account wrote: > A colleague and I are talking about doing a research trip in the Fall > to > Pittsburgh - focus on the various library collections (Heinz, Carnegie > Mellon, Univ. of Pittsburgh, etc.) and their holdings related to the > Civil > War. One thing we are trying to get a grasp on is lodging options for > a > stay of about a week. Anyone got any good suggestions for relatively > inexpensive boarding in Pittsburgh? > > Thanks in advance. > > Rod > > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > If you need to contact the listowner, send an email to Sue* at: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

A colleague and I are talking about doing a research trip in the Fall to Pittsburgh - focus on the various library collections (Heinz, Carnegie Mellon, Univ. of Pittsburgh, etc.) and their holdings related to the Civil War. One thing we are trying to get a grasp on is lodging options for a stay of about a week. Anyone got any good suggestions for relatively inexpensive boarding in Pittsburgh? Thanks in advance. Rod

Many different lists that I subscribe to, note in their signature line, the link to the archives. That would be so valuable to have appear in the signature line that appears in all the posts from this too - because newbies to the list - like me, could go look in the archives to see in a question or name of a person has been mentioned in the recent past. Anyways, I'm one to ask when I need a bit of help. Thanks, Diane Duman Dunlap

Just thought I should let ya'll know that this link below appears to be broke and needs to get fixed. :-) > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bjsst3/Home.htm Not Found The requested URL /~bjsst3/Home.html was not found on this server Diane Duman Dunlap Begin forwarded message: > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > VISIT THE PITTSBURGH MRC AT: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bjsst3/Home.htm > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Jerry, Thank you for your response. I have no idea about their religious background at this time but will keep you in mind as I gather more information. Alice