--=======16E53ADC======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-78666400; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Carol, The park is West Park. It's western border is Brighton Rd. If you go STRAIGHT north from the TIP of the Point, you'll hit the western side of West Park, just east of Brighton Rd. Area miles is slightly over 1/2 mile. Al At 01:57 PM 9/7/2004, you wrote: >Thanks Al, and another question: which park are you referring to? I was >young when we moved away (1941) and don't rememer much, >a N-S-E-W of the POINT would be helpful, please. Carol S. --=======16E53ADC======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-78666400 Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.754 / Virus Database: 504 - Release Date: 9/6/2004 --=======16E53ADC=======--

oops, this went off too fast. Tell them the approximate years you are refering to. I remember a gal who had an illigitimate child who belonged to the church. My guess is she would be 78 or 79 today. I think her name was Margaret Reinbold. Odd that should come into my mind after all of these years. Wish I could help you, and I wish you luck in your search. There was another church on the next corner....same side of the street that was known as the bake oven cause it was round. It is episcopal. If you don't do well at Calvary, ask them the name of the episcopal church. That might also be the one. Ginnie

Hi Jen, I left Pittsburgh over 50 years ago, but have a condo in WV and so get to Pgh once in a while. I don't recognize the names, but if I were you, I would write to the church and ask for someone to research your information. Offer to pay them, which I don't think they would accept, or tell them you would send a donation to the church. They have a large collection of Tiffany windows, and probably a prettier church than any I can remember in Pittsburgh.....or elsewhere.

Calvary Methodist Church is on the corner of Beech and Allegheny Avenue. I grew up in that church. Ginnie

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Hi Ginnie, Carol S. is an angel trying to help me find family from 934 Beech Ave., in Pittsburgh. Do you mind if I ask how long ago it was you were in the neighborhood? I live in Washington State now but was born at 934 Beech (at Allegheny General Hosp) and am trying to locate my birth mother or anyone from the old neighborhood who might have known her. The people I seek are named: Mrs. Vivian Thompson or Lillian Ross or Mrs. Margaret Lee or Michael Berry Jr. The home was a rental and was owned by Mrs. Grace White. She is deceased, as are her sons, Gilbert and Gorman. I spoke with one of their surviving spouses but they married before the above people occupied the home. Any and all help will be so appreciated. Perhaps my birth mother was a member of the church too. Take care. Jen in WA Born August 1951 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 7:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] 934 Beech Ave PGH Calvary Methodist Church is on the corner of Beech and Allegheny Avenue. I grew up in that church. Ginnie ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== If you need to contact the listowner, send an email to Sue* at: [email protected] ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

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Isn't there a Methodist Church on Beech Ave could someone tell me the name of that church THANKS Donna

--=======19D620AD======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-396D173; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Carol, I forgot to tell you whre 934 Beech Ave is. Beech is one block north of Western Ave (bridge to park) and "934" is between Galveston and Allegheny. That is probably the nicest block in all of Allegheny West. Al At 01:15 PM 9/7/2004, you wrote: >In what part of Pittsburgh is 934 Beech Ave located ca. 1950? > >I looked on a list of city streets but all I saw were Beech Bottom. Can >anyone clarify? THANKS, Carol --=======19D620AD======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-396D173 Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.754 / Virus Database: 504 - Release Date: 9/6/2004 --=======19D620AD=======--

There is a Beech Avenue in the Manchester area of the City of Pittsburgh. Pat

--=======47B959F7======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-7A497D09; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Carol, 934 Beech Ave hasn't been moved. It's still in the same place that it was c1950. Beech Bottom? That's a small village in Belmont Co., Ohio. There is no such street in Pgh. I would love to know where you saw that street on a map. 934 Beech Ave. is located in the old borough of Manchester that is now known as the tony neighborhood of Allegheny West. Giving you something that you may be familiar with, it's between the north end of the West End Bridge and West Park. Al At 01:15 PM 9/7/2004, you wrote: >In what part of Pittsburgh is 934 Beech Ave located ca. 1950? > >I looked on a list of city streets but all I saw were Beech Bottom. Can >anyone clarify? THANKS, Carol --=======47B959F7======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-7A497D09 Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.754 / Virus Database: 504 - Release Date: 9/6/2004 --=======47B959F7=======--

Thanks Al, and another question: which park are you referring to? I was young when we moved away (1941) and don't rememer much, a N-S-E-W of the POINT would be helpful, please. Carol S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Lenkner" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] 934 Beech Ave PGH > --=======19D620AD======= > Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-396D173; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Carol, > > I forgot to tell you whre 934 Beech Ave is. Beech is one block north of > Western Ave (bridge to park) and "934" is between Galveston and > Allegheny. That is probably the nicest block in all of Allegheny West. > > Al > > > > At 01:15 PM 9/7/2004, you wrote: > > >In what part of Pittsburgh is 934 Beech Ave located ca. 1950? > > > >I looked on a list of city streets but all I saw were Beech Bottom. Can > >anyone clarify? THANKS, Carol > > --=======19D620AD======= > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-396D173 > Content-Disposition: inline > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.754 / Virus Database: 504 - Release Date: 9/6/2004 > > --=======19D620AD=======-- > > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > If you need to contact the listowner, send an email to Sue* at: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

In what part of Pittsburgh is 934 Beech Ave located ca. 1950? I looked on a list of city streets but all I saw were Beech Bottom. Can anyone clarify? THANKS, Carol

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Where do I write to get copies of a probated will for someone who died in Pittsburgh? Thanks Madeleine

Hello again Cathy ... I am transplanted ... a Yankee living in the South. My wife and I moved here from Alaska about 2 years ago. We lived in a log home I built along the Tanana river. I'm retired twice (Soldier and Civil Service). My wife retired from Civil Service early as well since they closed the Army Fort where we worked. We spent one winter looking at each other across the kitchen table at -60F and decided it was time to move. She chose Alabama ... I wanted Kuaii Hawaii ... she won. Tom Lassek Eufaula Alabama ----- Original Message ----- From: Cathy Raber To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] OKRUTA Well, whether your a old hand at genealogy or a "newbie" it's still interesting talking about the differences & similarities of name spellings. I've been doing it more than a few years, & appreciate someone's experience in something I've not dove into myself, YET! I'm still learning of new spellings of my maiden name of Cain: Kean, Kane, Kain, & others! So we can all find our relatives! Thanks for your opinion, Tom, & chatting. Are you a transplanted "southerner" or native, Tom? I'm a transplanted northerner from OH to Central FL. Cathy > [Original Message] > From: Thomas E. Lassek <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 8/23/2004 10:31:02 AM > Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] OKRUTA > > "Kids, > It may have been the person that recorded the name that put "'" behind > the O. I had a friend Joe Opalka with no "'". I do believe that that is > how many names change or, rather, become corrupted. Mac" > > - - - - - - - - - - > > Hello Mac ... > > Yes, that's true, and it's not over yet, in fact the surname variants may change as time progresses. O'Reilly today may be Orely 200 years from now for one reason or the other and I personally think that all the diacritical marks will continue to go away as well, as they have in the last 100 years when immigrants arrived in the US. > > All this surname business is based on phonetics. As our English dictionary changes, based on acceptable modifications to the English language, so eventually will the spelling of surnames change - by design or otherwise. > > For the most part, we as a people are over the "main hump" when immigrant illiteracy was the norm rather than the exception. I've seen various figures from the early years concerning immigrant illiteracy and I think it's fair to say that somewhere around 90% could neither read or write in their native language - couple that with spelling in the new world language (English) and it becomes a mess. Immigrants were concerned only with "getting here" - correct spelling of their surname was of little or no importance, and if they were asked to confirm their surname in writing, they'd undoubtedly look at the "entry" and nod their head in the affirmative. Mr. Szkiladz from Poland would swear up and down that the "Smith" entry just recorded by Mr. McDonald in the governments "arrival register" in New York was indeed his surname. Everyone concerned, now happy that "inprocessing" was finished, could go their seperate ways. Mr. Szkiladz could now board the train West towards his eventu! > al homestead in the new country. > > Tom Lassek > Eufaula Alabama > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:[email protected] that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:[email protected] that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

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--=======1948787F======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-2C33315D; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Listers, In researching a request, Linda found a page, an index to a book called "The Pittsburgh District, Civic Frontage, The Pittsburgh Survey, Findings in Six Volumes. Anyone who has read Thomas Bell's "Out of This Furnace" will see a lot of similarities but I think the housing in Painter's Row is worse than that described in Bell's book. It also shows why unions and laws were needed to rein in the Carnegies of the world and protect the average folk from exploitation. Those who haven't read Bell's book might be in for a surprise. I can guarantee that, after reading these 6 or 7 pages, you'll thank your Creator that you weren't living through those times. The URL below is for the start of the article on Painter's Row. From looking at maps on the Historic Pitt site, I would place Painter's Row just about where the West End ramp from the Fort Pitt Bridge touches W. Carson St. http://digital.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/t/text/pageviewer-idx?c=pitttext;cc=pitttext;sid=6630ef5a6fcac5adf476dd9c632f998a;q1=painter%20s%20row;rgn=full%20text;idno=00hc12051m;view=image;seq=0016 Al --=======1948787F======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-2C33315D Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.742 / Virus Database: 495 - Release Date: 8/19/2004 --=======1948787F=======--