----- Original Message ----- From: fink438@comcast.net To: Dott114029@aol.com Cc: PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 00:57:21 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Old Names for Townships in Chester County Dottie et al Thank you for your info. I think you have confirmed for me at least that "Winescence" is West Vincent Townshiop, Chester County, or at least Vincent if East and West splits had not yet been made. Gerhard Brunback/Brunpack/Brownback lived there at that time and his wife Mary (Papen), daughter of Heivert Papen deceased ( note the incorrect spelling of his name below). It seems that the children of Heivert Papen of Germantown owned the land since Heivert died in 1707-1708 and they were selling the land he owned in Germantown thus the listing of all his children as heirs now owning the land. Of these we know that Brunpack/(Papen) lived there in Chester County, Jacob Sheymer and wife, Margaret (Papen) lived in Bebber Township, Montgomery County which was one of the first migratory routes west of Germantown, that being the area of the major part of the land deeded by Penn, about 5000 -15000acres, first section laid out or to be chosen in the area to be called Germantown for immediate settlement, circa 1682, with the balance of "wilderness" to be settled later. John Jansen and his wife, Elizabeth (Papen) of" Sulphar" Township probably is Salford Township which is adjacent to Bebber Township later named Skippack Township. The last heir, Christina (Styntia), not "Christian" died in 1728 as a spinster of Winesence Township who may have lived with Brownpack's. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Dott114029@aol.com To: fink438@comcast.net Cc: PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 20:47:30 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Old Names for Townships in Chester County This may shed some light on these two names.....from another old book, the same names are used, however they are explained in parenthesis ' as ....."between Gerhard Brownpackof Winesense [Vin- cent] Township County of Chester, Yeoman, and Mary his wife, Jacob Sheymer of Bebber Township, County of Philadelphia and Margaret his wife, John Jansen of Sulphur [Salford] Township County of Philadelphia and Elizabeth his wife, Benjamin Howell of German- town Township County of Philadelphia and Katharine his wife and Christina (als Styntie) Paupen of Wine- sense Township County of Chester, (Spinster,) (Child- ren of the late Havent Paupen of Germantown) of the one part, and William Dewees of the other part, etc. This information from website "The Dewees Family: Genealogical Data, Biographical Facts and Historical.." http://www.archive.org/stream/deweesfamilygen00socigoog/deweesfamilygen00socigoog_djvu.txt Dottie In a message dated 3/18/2012 2:03:51 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, ferg@ntelos.net writes: These are not any names that I have seen or are familiar with. I assume the book you quote is a transcription of an original document rather than a copy of the document . In this case what you have is what a transcriber 'thought' the document said. I can tell you from personal experience, no matter how careful one is, mistakes are made. You would need to see the actual document to determine what it says and how things are spelled. Sandra Sent from my iPod > > For those with access, who want to check my reference--the book, Acta Germanopolis ( Records of the CORPORATION OF GERMANTOWN PENNSYLVANIA 1691-1707), Appendix C, page 617, footnote 134, lists a township in Chester County, circa 1700 ,as "Winesence" and another one as "Sulphar "Township ( County uncertain). Are these legitimate early names of the townships or just more evidence of poor spelling common in those days. I suspect "Winesence" could be West Vincent Township; "Sulphar" possibly Schuykil Township in Chester County but that seems to be a real stretch. > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message