Great! Thank you! Kim Townsend Spangrude On Apr 21, 2012, at 5:42 AM, Candy Roth wrote: > Samuel Painter who married Esther Gilpin was the father of Samuel Painter who married Esther James. > > Samuel Painter b 5 2mo 1719 according to Darby M.M. records. He died 24 Mar 1801. He married Esther Gilpin, daughter of Joseph and Hannah Glover Gilpin on 5 6mo 1741 at the Concord M.H. in Chester, PA > > One of their children was: > Samuel Painter b 23 8mo 1757 East Bradford, Chester, PA d 4 Dec 1823 m (1) Martha Tate b 1764 d 1808, daughter of William and Ann Nichols Tate. Martha Tate had previously been married in 1781 to Jesse Chandler 1750-1785. Samuel Painter m (2) Esther James b 6 9mo 1757 according to the Goshen M.M. records. She d 16 Sep 1854. Esther is referenced in Lew's account below. > > Sources: > "Genealogy and Biographical Sketches of the Family of Samuel Painter," by Orrin Chalfant Painter, Baltimore 1903; Press of Jno. S. Bridges & Co., Baltimore, MD; pg. 27 > > "History of Chester Co., PA" by J. Smith Futhey and Gilbert Cope; Philadelphia; Louis H. Everts, 1881; pg. 512, 570, 765 > > "Early PA Births, 1675-1875" Compiled by Charles A. Fisher, Pub. Genealogical Pub. Co., Baltimore, MD 1975; LOC #75-21584; pg. 89 > > "Quaker Marriage Certificates, Concord M.M., Delaware Co., PA 1678-1808 by Gwen Boyer Bjorkman, pub. Heritage Books Inc., 1991; pg. 54 > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Kimberly Spangrude" <kimspangrude@mac.com> > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 5:18 PM > To: "George Smedley" <smedley.george@att.net> > Cc: "PaOldChester" <pa-old-chester-l@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Painter > >> Lew, where did you find this account? The Samuel Painter who married Esther Gilpin was a different Samuel Painter; he was born abt 1710-1720, died in 1801; according to the following two sources, his spouse was Esther Gilpin, they married 1741 and had many children. The Samuel Painter below in your email is a different Samuel; I remember several years ago there were several emails exchanged about how confusing this family is, because each generation had a Samuel, George, Hannah and Esther. There is a book by Dr. Chalfant Painter, abt. 52-54 pages, giving the history and descendency, it is named something like 'History of the Painter family ' or 'Genealogy of the Painter family'. >> >> Sources for Samuel painter and Esther Gilpin: >> Rash’s Genealogy http://www.pennock.ws/surnames/fam/fam06136.html >> Marriage Records - Chester County: PA Roots Genealogy Data Board http://www.pa-roots.org/data/read.php?227,419736,419736#msg-419736 >> >> Kim Townsend Spangrude >> >> >> >> On Apr 20, 2012, at 12:37 PM, George Smedley wrote: >> >>> ABRAHAM WILLIAMSON (Sarah,Mary,Sarah,George),b.Thornbury,1-29-1757; >>> d.there,2-4-1807;m.9-18-1777,at a meeting "held occasionally at the dwelling >>> house of Joseph James,in Westtown," to Esther James,b.9-6-1757; >>> d.9-16-1854;dau.of Joseph James,deceased,and Hannah Hickman,of that >>> township.One of the overseers reported that the marriage was "accomplished >>> at a private house,occasioned by the Difficulty of the times." This was not >>> long after the Battle of Brandywine and the Paoli Massacre,one on each side >>> of the James homestead and but a few miles away.Abraham Williamson resided >>> on a farm in Thornbury,purchased by himself and Jesse James,his >>> brother-in-law.He left no children.His widow was married again,5-25-1809,to >>> Samuel Painter,of East Bradford (now Birmingham);"the greatest wedding of >>> our day," says Benjamin Hickman in his diary.Esther Painter,being left in >>> comfortable circumstances,became somewhat of a capitalist and loaned money >>> on mortgage to neighboring farmers. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Other helpful sources might be: For Samuel: Source: "Biographical and Portrait Cyclopedia of Chester County, Pennsylvania, comprising a historical sketch of the county," by Samuel T. Wiley and edited by Winfield Scott Garner, Gresham Publishing Company, Philadelphia, PA, 1893, pp. 791-793.  (transcribed at http://files.usgwarchives.org/pa/chester/bios/p/painter-h.txt  ) For Esther: Source: "Calendar of Delaware Wills, New Castle County, 1682-1800," Abstracted and Compiled by The Historical Research Committee of The Colonial Dames of Delaware, Heritage Books, Bowie, MD, 1991, p. 63 (abstract of brother Thomas Gilpin's will) just named 'Esther and http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/chester/wills/willbookb.txt (her father's will abstract) and Source: The ancestry of Clarence Cresson BRINTON in "Colonial & Revolutionary Families of Pennsylvania" (I xeroxed this many years ago and neglected to get the bibliography page! - sometime in the 1920's I think) - a vanity piece that mostly cribbed from other sources for the older material and Source: "Colonial Families of Philadelphia, Vol. I", John W. Jordan LL.D., editor, The Lewis Publishing Co., NY, 1911, pp. 424-6. (Gilpin Family) - a great source on the Gilpins drawing from a much older family genealogy. and Source: "The Sharpless Family...", compiled by Gilbert Cope, pub. by the Bi-centennial Reunion Committee, Philadelphia, 1887, p. 234 (a brief blurb on the Gilpins) John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimberly Spangrude" <kimspangrude@mac.com> To: "Candy Roth" <clroth1229@earthlink.net> Cc: "PaOldChester" <pa-old-chester-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 9:55:56 AM Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Painter Great!  Thank you! Kim Townsend Spangrude On Apr 21, 2012, at 5:42 AM, Candy Roth wrote: > Samuel Painter who married Esther Gilpin was the father of Samuel Painter who married Esther James. > > Samuel Painter b 5 2mo 1719 according to Darby M.M. records.  He died 24 Mar 1801.  He married Esther Gilpin, daughter of Joseph and Hannah Glover Gilpin on 5 6mo 1741 at the Concord M.H. in Chester, PA > > One of their children was: > Samuel Painter b 23 8mo 1757 East Bradford, Chester, PA d 4 Dec 1823 m (1) Martha Tate b 1764 d 1808, daughter of William and Ann Nichols Tate.  Martha Tate had previously been married in 1781 to Jesse Chandler 1750-1785. Samuel Painter m (2) Esther James b 6 9mo 1757 according to the Goshen M.M. records.  She d 16 Sep 1854.  Esther is referenced in Lew's account below. > > Sources: > "Genealogy and Biographical Sketches of the Family of Samuel Painter," by Orrin Chalfant Painter, Baltimore 1903; Press of Jno. S. Bridges & Co., Baltimore, MD; pg. 27 > > "History of Chester Co., PA" by J. Smith Futhey and Gilbert Cope; Philadelphia; Louis H. Everts, 1881; pg. 512, 570, 765 > > "Early PA Births, 1675-1875" Compiled by Charles A. Fisher, Pub. Genealogical Pub. Co., Baltimore, MD 1975; LOC #75-21584; pg. 89 > > "Quaker Marriage Certificates, Concord M.M., Delaware Co., PA 1678-1808 by Gwen Boyer Bjorkman, pub. Heritage Books Inc., 1991; pg. 54 > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Kimberly Spangrude" <kimspangrude@mac.com> > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 5:18 PM > To: "George Smedley" <smedley.george@att.net> > Cc: "PaOldChester" <pa-old-chester-l@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Painter > >> Lew, where did you find this account?   The Samuel Painter who married Esther Gilpin was a different Samuel Painter; he was born abt 1710-1720, died in 1801; according to the following two sources, his spouse was Esther Gilpin, they married 1741 and had many children.  The Samuel Painter below in your email is a different Samuel; I remember several years ago there were several emails exchanged about how confusing this family is, because each generation had a Samuel, George, Hannah and Esther.  There is a book  by Dr. Chalfant Painter, abt. 52-54 pages, giving the history and descendency,  it is named something like  'History of the Painter family ' or  'Genealogy of the Painter family'. >> >> Sources for Samuel painter and Esther Gilpin: >> Rash’s Genealogy  http://www.pennock.ws/surnames/fam/fam06136.html >> Marriage Records - Chester County:  PA Roots Genealogy Data Board http://www.pa-roots.org/data/read.php?227,419736,419736#msg-419736 >> >> Kim Townsend Spangrude >> >> >> >> On Apr 20, 2012, at 12:37 PM, George Smedley wrote: >> >>> ABRAHAM WILLIAMSON (Sarah,Mary,Sarah,George),b.Thornbury,1-29-1757; >>> d.there,2-4-1807;m.9-18-1777,at a meeting "held occasionally at the dwelling >>> house of Joseph James,in Westtown," to Esther James,b.9-6-1757; >>> d.9-16-1854;dau.of Joseph James,deceased,and Hannah Hickman,of that >>> township.One of the overseers reported that the marriage was "accomplished >>> at a private house,occasioned by the Difficulty of the times." This was not >>> long after the Battle of Brandywine and the Paoli Massacre,one on each side >>> of the James homestead and but a few miles away.Abraham Williamson resided >>> on a farm in Thornbury,purchased by himself and Jesse James,his >>> brother-in-law.He left no children.His widow was married again,5-25-1809,to >>> Samuel Painter,of East Bradford (now Birmingham);"the greatest wedding of >>> our day," says Benjamin Hickman in his diary.Esther Painter,being left in >>> comfortable circumstances,became somewhat of a capitalist and loaned money >>> on mortgage to neighboring farmers. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message