We have all had the unfortunate experience of getting information that wasn't quite right, but close enough to use to find the truth. I have found that very useful, myself. What someone else might find just plain "wrong," another researcher might have the imagination to follow up on and resolve. But that can't be done if we only share solidly proven facts. Information doesn't always come in neat little packages, but formulates as a conversion of data that can be used to derive the facts. This whole extended discussion about "plagiarism" and "willfull Misdirection" is getting old, if you ask me. None of this repetitive complaining is helpful, except for some to try to convince others (or themselves) that they are "better genealogists" that everyone else. In fact, it might seriously inhibit discussion and discourage-especially newer genealogists-from sharing what they have for fear of criticism. It could have all ended with a polite request to cite sources or to not post. If the group had started any other topic that accomplished no more than this one has, it would have been abruptly terminated. I suggest we abruptly terminate this one and try to help one another instead of creating an environment of "holier than thou" or competition on this list. Pat Saletore
We have, perhaps, exhausted the subject of plagiarism, but that certainly doesn't give anyone the right to be rude to other list members, regardless of the subject. In the future, if anyone believes that a subject should be changed, contact ME, the list adm, and do NOT compound the 'problem' with uncalled for and nasty personal comments...this is a good way to leave the list...permanently. Remember, I am the arbiter who decides what is acceptable discussion material, not you....if you don't like it, hit delete and email me. S. . "None of this repetitive complaining is helpful, except for some to try to convince others (or themselves) that they are "better genealogists" that everyone else. . "creating an environment of "holier than thou" -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/458 - Release Date: 9/27/2006