True...there are often different statements about folks........but, I think that some sources, etc are certainly more credible than others, and I'd be rather inclined to believe anything the Welcome Society puts forth. They do a lot of checking, and you must send reams of primary documentation to join....if interested, I'd think you could discover, from them, the documentation they have for Valentine...without asking, we can't know if they have concrete.... primary....proof. I honestly don't think they would accept just conjecture and speculation as proof, do you? If you find out, let us know....it's interesting stuff. Sandra "There sure are many interpretations of opinions and the lack of concrete recorded proof just adds to the mystery, doesn't it ? Something that happened over 300 years ago is always fair game for speculation and I love it.. such as " did he, or didn't he "..... anyway, I copy-off and save all of it and have come to the conclusion I shall never know ' for sure '." -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006