You do know, don't you, that what they send you from the NARA, if there are military records on file, are COPIES of those actual records....and that this has nothing do do with pension records OR anything the DAR might have. They are 2 completely separate organizations who do not share records......the only thing the DAR would have would be the copy of NARA Vet records that were submitted by a woman when she joined......the only records the DAR has are those submitted by individuals, so you can't count on what the DAR has to be definitive proof that there are or are not military records, if you catch my drift........so....have you contacted the NARA to ask about service records? If not , you need to....there is no charge if they don't find anything. If, as you indicate you believe him to have been a member of "Chester County Pa., Militia", then these are the records that are not at the federal level, but the county/state. A copy of the form the woman filled out should have been what you received from the DAR....and, for each generation there is a slot into which the documentation for that person/date/birth, etc, MUST be listed....for instance Joe Blow b. 1910 (documentation) - Ohio Co, WV birth records From this notation you would know that you needed to find out where Ohio Co,WV warehouses it's records and request a copy of the birth. For service records, if you know WHAT was given as documentation, this is enough for you to begin researching WHERE this information might be found, in the state you're dealing with.... Have you gone through the PA Archives site? http://www.digitalarchives.state.pa.us/archive.asp You might also want to contact them for help. Sandra " when I did the DAR lookup via the internet, the response indicated "no pension". The other info is online, and you can see that it's not much...unless I'm missing something significant. " -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/333 - Release Date: 5/5/2006