You want a sailing ship that transported cargo and passengers which is different from a fighting ship [though merchants ships could be pressed into service to fight]. Brigs and schooners weren't all that big either. There are some here from the early 1800s - would look the same: http://www.hamptonsdirectory.com/article/sailing_ships_in_the_1800s.html http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa_ny180024.shtml These from Olive Tree are some examples between Ireland and America that would be similar. As Olive Tree notes passenger lists did not need to be kept before 1820. Some have just a few passengers, some have more. Because these ships were small in comparison to the larger ones of the steam era there really was no steerage like on the big ships but they were in the hold - with the cargo probably - then on deck during the day + sometimes there were a couple very small cabins for passengers who could afford them. Brigs were 75-165 ft, schooners 150ft. Neither would seem very big when you are on the Atlantic with its huge waves. Rough weather while on the Queen Mary flattened many of the passengers according to my mother during a voyage in 1949. Plates sliding around the dining room and so forth. Liane

No. I am looking for a ship that arrived somewhere near Philadlphia in1682, not the 1800s.  Thanks anyway. ________________________________ From: lfenimore <lfenimore@columbus.rr.com> To: Dora Smith <tiggernut24@yahoo.com>; pa-old-chester-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Them ships again - need to know what a ship looked like You want a sailing ship that transported cargo and passengers which is different from a fighting ship [though merchants ships could be pressed into service to fight]. Brigs and schooners weren't all that big either.  There are some here from the early 1800s - would look the same: http://www.hamptonsdirectory.com/article/sailing_ships_in_the_1800s.html http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa_ny180024.shtml These from Olive Tree are some examples between Ireland and America that would be similar.  As Olive Tree notes passenger lists did not need to be kept before 1820. Some have just a few passengers, some have more.  Because these ships were small in comparison to the larger ones of the steam era there really was no steerage like on the big ships but they were in the hold - with the cargo probably - then on deck during the day + sometimes there were a couple very small cabins for passengers who could afford them. Brigs were 75-165 ft, schooners 150ft.  Neither would seem very big when you are on the Atlantic with its huge waves.  Rough weather while on the Queen Mary flattened many of the passengers according to my mother during a voyage in 1949.  Plates sliding around the dining room and so forth. Liane ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message