First, I want to say a big THANK YOU to everyone who has replied to my original messages about road names in West Pikeland. Since several people asked for more details - here goes. On the 1920 Census (West Pikeland Twp., Chester Co., PA), my grandfather, Harry A. Schmehl, wife Beatrice & son Robert E. are listed as living on State Road, owning the property which was mortgaged (I have not found proof that Harry owned property in 1920). On this Census sheet, there are 2 neighbors on State Road - Hosea McBride & William McKinley. Others on same census sheet are listed as living on Cross Road or Conestoga Pike. Prior census sheet lists families on same 3 roads; next census sheet lists families on Conestoga Pike. At some point, about 1925, I know the Harry Schmehl family lived (rented) the house whose address is now 1548 Horseshoe Trail, Chester Springs, PA. My uncle, born in Nov 1918, remembered living in this house when he started first grade. This house on Horseshoe Trail is just a short distance from Route #113. On the 1930 Census (West Pikeland Twp.), Harry is listed as living on Township Road, renting the property for $17. On the prior Census sheet is the McBride & McKinley family, both listed as living on the Chester Springs-Phoenixville Road. From the messages I've read - I'm thinking "State Road" & "Chester Springs-Phoenixville Road" are the same road; & both are the same as Route #113 today. On the next census sheet are families listed as living on Township Road or Conestoga Pike. It would appear that "State Road" & "Township Road" are not the same road, as most people had already thought. I suspect that "Township Road" & Horseshoe Trail" are not the same road. Prior to September 1932, Harry moved his family to Kimberton (East Pikeland Twp.), onto a property he later purchased in Dec 1933. The house's current address is 923 Pike Springs Road (Route # 113). I still don't know which road was called "Township Road" in 1930. Any additional thoughts or suggestions appreciated. Sharon

Modern maps make that very likely 113 and Rt 401 (still Conestoga Pike) so perhaps we are narrowing it? <G> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Sharon Kleinstuber <snkgenealogy@hotmail.com> wrote: > y which was mortgaged (I have not found proof that Harry owned property in 1920). On this Census sheet, there are 2 neighbors on State Road - Hosea McBride & William McKinley. Others on same census sheet are listed as living on Cross Road or Conestoga Pike -- Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (unknown to me) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold)

Sharon, The County Recorders Office should have the property deeds, recorded Mortgage agreements, and Section Plat Maps going back to the beginning of the county and townships. The County Engineers Office has Property Plats and Section Plat Maps. The County Auditors Office also has County and Township Plat Maps. The Plat Maps show all land marks, roads, fence lines, property corners (pins and monuments), acreage, and property owners. You may be able to find copies of the very old Plat Maps by going to the State Archives Library under maps or in the Genealogy Research section (every state has these facilities, but may be labeled differently). Hope this info is helpful, Don -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Kleinstuber Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 11:37 AM To: Chester County old Subject: [PaOldC] old road names First, I want to say a big THANK YOU to everyone who has replied to my original messages about road names in West Pikeland. Since several people asked for more details - here goes. On the 1920 Census (West Pikeland Twp., Chester Co., PA), my grandfather, Harry A. Schmehl, wife Beatrice & son Robert E. are listed as living on State Road, owning the property which was mortgaged (I have not found proof that Harry owned property in 1920). On this Census sheet, there are 2 neighbors on State Road - Hosea McBride & William McKinley. Others on same census sheet are listed as living on Cross Road or Conestoga Pike. Prior census sheet lists families on same 3 roads; next census sheet lists families on Conestoga Pike. At some point, about 1925, I know the Harry Schmehl family lived (rented) the house whose address is now 1548 Horseshoe Trail, Chester Springs, PA. My uncle, born in Nov 1918, remembered living in this house when he started first grade. This house on Horseshoe Tra! il is just a short distance from Route #113. On the 1930 Census (West Pikeland Twp.), Harry is listed as living on Township Road, renting the property for $17. On the prior Census sheet is the McBride & McKinley family, both listed as living on the Chester Springs-Phoenixville Road. >From the messages I've read - I'm thinking "State Road" & "Chester Springs-Phoenixville Road" are the same road; & both are the same as Route #113 today. On the next census sheet are families listed as living on Township Road or Conestoga Pike. It would appear that "State Road" & "Township Road" are not the same road, as most people had already thought. I suspect that "Township Road" & Horseshoe Trail" are not the same road. Prior to September 1932, Harry moved his family to Kimberton (East Pikeland Twp.), onto a property he later purchased in Dec 1933. The house's current address is 923 Pike Springs Road (Route # 113). I still don't know which road was called "Township Road" in 1930! . Any additional thoughts or suggestions appreciated. Sharon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message