Please....we need dates.....it's impossible to know where to look without knowing when........all queries must have 3, equally necessary components....1) full name, given and surname 2) geographic location 3) some sort of date. Sandra "................There was this William Clibborn, born in various places in England, married any of several choices, had three or four children. One version has him born at the same time as his daughter, Anne Clibborn who married John Miller and went to New Garden, Pennsylvania. Other versions ahve him as her brother. They owned a castle in Moate, County Westmeath. "