Dates? We're talking about the people who founded the Irish Quaker community in New Garden here, Sandra. And we're talking Miller's to boot. I know you are descended from those people. On top of that, the information on Ann Clibborn's father is so inconsistent it's hard to get you dates. Late 17th century is about the best I can do. She married John Miller, one of the three Miller's who helped found New Garden. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Ferguson" <[email protected]> To: "Dora Smith" <[email protected]>; <pa[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Need help with Clibborn pedigree (Miller - New GardenQuakers) > Please....we need dates.....it's impossible to know where to look without > knowing when........all queries must have 3, equally necessary > components....1) full name, given and surname 2) geographic location 3) > some sort of date. > > Sandra > "................There was this William Clibborn, born in various places > in England, married any of several choices, had three or four children. > One version has him born at the same time as his daughter, Anne Clibborn > who married John Miller and went to New Garden, Pennsylvania. Other > versions ahve him as her brother. They owned a castle in Moate, County > Westmeath. " >

Dear Dora, I have to admit, as a researcher, I for one am not acquainted with the Irish Quaker community in New Garden, nor am I acquainted with Millers. I live in Utah, research names of my ancestors who lived at one time in Chester County and elsewhere in Pennsylvania, and am also interested in the history of the area. Dates, for me, would be germane to helping you out, because with dates, I could look at some of my family records and see if there are any references to your family names. I did have some Townsends at different points of the 18th Century who were members of New Garden (Esther Hoopes married Persifor Frazer Taylor in 1810 in Ohio, and he was the son of Isaac Taylor and Elizabeth Townsend. Elizabeth Townsend was born 1748 in Chester, Pa.) Otherwise, as a member of this list serve, all I could do is google the information you have given; and I am sure you have already done that. Hope you have good luck in finding what you are looking for. Sincerely, Kim Townsend Spangrude On Jul 16, 2009, at 2:25 PM, Dora Smith wrote: > Dates? > > We're talking about the people who founded the Irish Quaker > community in New > Garden here, Sandra. And we're talking Miller's to boot. I know > you are > descended from those people. > > On top of that, the information on Ann Clibborn's father is so > inconsistent > it's hard to get you dates. Late 17th century is about the best I > can do. > She married John Miller, one of the three Miller's who helped found > New > Garden. > > Yours, > Dora Smith > Austin, TX > [email protected] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sandra Ferguson" <[email protected]> > To: "Dora Smith" <[email protected]>; <pa-old- > [email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:13 PM > Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Need help with Clibborn pedigree (Miller - New > GardenQuakers) > > >> Please....we need dates.....it's impossible to know where to look >> without >> knowing when........all queries must have 3, equally necessary >> components....1) full name, given and surname 2) geographic >> location 3) >> some sort of date. >> >> Sandra >> "................There was this William Clibborn, born in various >> places >> in England, married any of several choices, had three or four >> children. >> One version has him born at the same time as his daughter, Anne >> Clibborn >> who married John Miller and went to New Garden, Pennsylvania. Other >> versions ahve him as her brother. They owned a castle in Moate, >> County >> Westmeath. " >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

OK. I'm done arguing about it! Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Spangrude" <[email protected]> To: "Dora Smith" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Need help with Clibborn pedigree (Miller - New GardenQuakers) > Dear Dora, > I have to admit, as a researcher, I for one am not acquainted with the > Irish Quaker community in New Garden, nor am I acquainted with Millers. > I live in Utah, research names of my ancestors who lived at one time in > Chester County and elsewhere in Pennsylvania, and am also interested in > the history of the area. Dates, for me, would be germane to helping you > out, because with dates, I could look at some of my family records and > see if there are any references to your family names. I did have some > Townsends at different points of the 18th Century who were members of New > Garden (Esther Hoopes married Persifor Frazer Taylor in 1810 in Ohio, and > he was the son of Isaac Taylor and Elizabeth Townsend. Elizabeth > Townsend was born 1748 in Chester, Pa.) Otherwise, as a member of this > list serve, all I could do is google the information you have given; and > I am sure you have already done that. Hope you have good luck in finding > what you are looking for. > Sincerely, Kim Townsend Spangrude > On Jul 16, 2009, at 2:25 PM, Dora Smith wrote: > >> Dates? >> >> We're talking about the people who founded the Irish Quaker community in >> New >> Garden here, Sandra. And we're talking Miller's to boot. I know you >> are >> descended from those people. >> >> On top of that, the information on Ann Clibborn's father is so >> inconsistent >> it's hard to get you dates. Late 17th century is about the best I can >> do. >> She married John Miller, one of the three Miller's who helped found New >> Garden. >> >> Yours, >> Dora Smith >> Austin, TX >> [email protected] >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sandra Ferguson" <[email protected]> >> To: "Dora Smith" <[email protected]>; <pa-old- [email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:13 PM >> Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Need help with Clibborn pedigree (Miller - New >> GardenQuakers) >> >> >>> Please....we need dates.....it's impossible to know where to look >>> without >>> knowing when........all queries must have 3, equally necessary >>> components....1) full name, given and surname 2) geographic location >>> 3) >>> some sort of date. >>> >>> Sandra >>> "................There was this William Clibborn, born in various >>> places >>> in England, married any of several choices, had three or four children. >>> One version has him born at the same time as his daughter, Anne >>> Clibborn >>> who married John Miller and went to New Garden, Pennsylvania. Other >>> versions ahve him as her brother. They owned a castle in Moate, >>> County >>> Westmeath. " >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >