----- Original Message ----- From: fink438@comcast.net To: Dott114029@aol.com Cc: PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 00:57:21 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Old Names for Townships in Chester County Dottie et al Thank you for your info. I think you have confirmed for me at least that "Winescence" is West Vincent Townshiop, Chester County, or at least Vincent if East and West splits had not yet been made. Gerhard Brunback/Brunpack/Brownback lived there at that time and his wife Mary (Papen), daughter of Heivert Papen deceased ( note the incorrect spelling of his name below). It seems that the children of Heivert Papen of Germantown owned the land since Heivert died in 1707-1708 and they were selling the land he owned in Germantown thus the listing of all his children as heirs now owning the land. Of these we know that Brunpack/(Papen) lived there in Chester County, Jacob Sheymer and wife, Margaret (Papen) lived in Bebber Township, Montgomery County which was one of the first migratory routes west of Germantown, that being the area of the major part of the land deeded by Penn, about 5000 -15000acres, first section laid out or to be chosen in the area to be called Germantown for immediate settlement, circa 1682, with the balance of "wilderness" to be settled later. John Jansen and his wife, Elizabeth (Papen) of" Sulphar" Township probably is Salford Township which is adjacent to Bebber Township later named Skippack Township. The last heir, Christina (Styntia), not "Christian" died in 1728 as a spinster of Winesence Township who may have lived with Brownpack's. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Dott114029@aol.com To: fink438@comcast.net Cc: PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 20:47:30 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Old Names for Townships in Chester County This may shed some light on these two names.....from another old book, the same names are used, however they are explained in parenthesis ' as ....."between Gerhard Brownpackof Winesense [Vin- cent] Township County of Chester, Yeoman, and Mary his wife, Jacob Sheymer of Bebber Township, County of Philadelphia and Margaret his wife, John Jansen of Sulphur [Salford] Township County of Philadelphia and Elizabeth his wife, Benjamin Howell of German- town Township County of Philadelphia and Katharine his wife and Christina (als Styntie) Paupen of Wine- sense Township County of Chester, (Spinster,) (Child- ren of the late Havent Paupen of Germantown) of the one part, and William Dewees of the other part, etc. This information from website "The Dewees Family: Genealogical Data, Biographical Facts and Historical.." http://www.archive.org/stream/deweesfamilygen00socigoog/deweesfamilygen00socigoog_djvu.txt Dottie In a message dated 3/18/2012 2:03:51 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, ferg@ntelos.net writes: These are not any names that I have seen or are familiar with. I assume the book you quote is a transcription of an original document rather than a copy of the document . In this case what you have is what a transcriber 'thought' the document said. I can tell you from personal experience, no matter how careful one is, mistakes are made. You would need to see the actual document to determine what it says and how things are spelled. Sandra Sent from my iPod > > For those with access, who want to check my reference--the book, Acta Germanopolis ( Records of the CORPORATION OF GERMANTOWN PENNSYLVANIA 1691-1707), Appendix C, page 617, footnote 134, lists a township in Chester County, circa 1700 ,as "Winesence" and another one as "Sulphar "Township ( County uncertain). Are these legitimate early names of the townships or just more evidence of poor spelling common in those days. I suspect "Winesence" could be West Vincent Township; "Sulphar" possibly Schuykil Township in Chester County but that seems to be a real stretch. > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dottie et al Thank you for your info. I think you have confirmed for me at least that "Winescence" is West Vincent Townshiop, Chester County, or at least Vincent if East and West splits had not yet been made. Gerhard Brunback/Brunpack/Brownback lived there at that time and his wife Mary (Papen), daughter of Heivert Papen deceased ( note the incorrect spelling of his name below). It seems that the children of Heivert Papen of Germantown owned the land since Heivert died in 1707-1708 and they were selling the land he owned in Germantown thus the listing of all his children as heirs now owning the land. Of these we know that Brunpack/(Papen) lived there in Chester County, Jacob Sheymer and wife, Margaret (Papen) lived in Bebber Township, Montgomery County which was one of the first migratory routes west of Germantown, that being the area of the major part of the land deeded by Penn, about 5000 -15000acres, first section laid out or to be chosen in the area to be called Germantown for immediate settlement, circa 1682, with the balance of "wilderness" to be settled later. John Jansen and his wife, Elizabeth (Papen) of" Sulphar" Township probably is Salford Township which is adjacent to Bebber Township later named Skippack Township. The last heir, Christina (Styntia), not "Christian" died in 1728 as a spinster of Winesence Township who may have lived with Brownpack's. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Dott114029@aol.com To: fink438@comcast.net Cc: PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 20:47:30 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Old Names for Townships in Chester County This may shed some light on these two names.....from another old book, the same names are used, however they are explained in parenthesis ' as ....."between Gerhard Brownpackof Winesense [Vin- cent] Township County of Chester, Yeoman, and Mary his wife, Jacob Sheymer of Bebber Township, County of Philadelphia and Margaret his wife, John Jansen of Sulphur [Salford] Township County of Philadelphia and Elizabeth his wife, Benjamin Howell of German- town Township County of Philadelphia and Katharine his wife and Christina (als Styntie) Paupen of Wine- sense Township County of Chester, (Spinster,) (Child- ren of the late Havent Paupen of Germantown) of the one part, and William Dewees of the other part, etc. This information from website "The Dewees Family: Genealogical Data, Biographical Facts and Historical.." http://www.archive.org/stream/deweesfamilygen00socigoog/deweesfamilygen00socigoog_djvu.txt Dottie In a message dated 3/18/2012 2:03:51 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, ferg@ntelos.net writes: These are not any names that I have seen or are familiar with. I assume the book you quote is a transcription of an original document rather than a copy of the document . In this case what you have is what a transcriber 'thought' the document said. I can tell you from personal experience, no matter how careful one is, mistakes are made. You would need to see the actual document to determine what it says and how things are spelled. Sandra Sent from my iPod > > For those with access, who want to check my reference--the book, Acta Germanopolis ( Records of the CORPORATION OF GERMANTOWN PENNSYLVANIA 1691-1707), Appendix C, page 617, footnote 134, lists a township in Chester County, circa 1700 ,as "Winesence" and another one as "Sulphar "Township ( County uncertain). Are these legitimate early names of the townships or just more evidence of poor spelling common in those days. I suspect "Winesence" could be West Vincent Township; "Sulphar" possibly Schuykil Township in Chester County but that seems to be a real stretch. > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For those with access, who want to check my reference--the book, Acta Germanopolis ( Records of the CORPORATION OF GERMANTOWN PENNSYLVANIA 1691-1707), Appendix C, page 617, footnote 134, lists a township in Chester County, circa 1700 ,as "Winesence" and another one as "Sulphar "Township ( County uncertain). Are these legitimate early names of the townships or just more evidence of poor spelling common in those days. I suspect "Winesence" could be West Vincent Township; "Sulphar" possibly Schuykil Township in Chester County but that seems to be a real stretch. Steve

This may shed some light on these two names.....from another old book, the same names are used, however they are explained in parenthesis ' as ....."between Gerhard Brownpackof Winesense [Vin- cent] Township County of Chester, Yeoman, and Mary his wife, Jacob Sheymer of Bebber Township, County of Philadelphia and Margaret his wife, John Jansen of Sulphur [Salford] Township County of Philadelphia and Elizabeth his wife, Benjamin Howell of German- town Township County of Philadelphia and Katharine his wife and Christina (als Styntie) Paupen of Wine- sense Township County of Chester, (Spinster,) (Child- ren of the late Havent Paupen of Germantown) of the one part, and William Dewees of the other part, etc. This information from website "The Dewees Family: Genealogical Data, Biographical Facts and Historical.." _http://www.archive.org/stream/deweesfamilygen00socigoog/deweesfamilygen00so cigoog_djvu.txt_ (http://www.archive.org/stream/deweesfamilygen00socigoog/deweesfamilygen00socigoog_djvu.txt) Dottie In a message dated 3/18/2012 2:03:51 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, ferg@ntelos.net writes: These are not any names that I have seen or are familiar with. I assume the book you quote is a transcription of an original document rather than a copy of the document . In this case what you have is what a transcriber 'thought' the document said. I can tell you from personal experience, no matter how careful one is, mistakes are made. You would need to see the actual document to determine what it says and how things are spelled. Sandra Sent from my iPod > > For those with access, who want to check my reference--the book, Acta Germanopolis ( Records of the CORPORATION OF GERMANTOWN PENNSYLVANIA 1691-1707), Appendix C, page 617, footnote 134, lists a township in Chester County, circa 1700 ,as "Winesence" and another one as "Sulphar "Township ( County uncertain). Are these legitimate early names of the townships or just more evidence of poor spelling common in those days. I suspect "Winesence" could be West Vincent Township; "Sulphar" possibly Schuykil Township in Chester County but that seems to be a real stretch. > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

These are not any names that I have seen or are familiar with. I assume the book you quote is a transcription of an original document rather than a copy of the document . In this case what you have is what a transcriber 'thought' the document said. I can tell you from personal experience, no matter how careful one is, mistakes are made. You would need to see the actual document to determine what it says and how things are spelled. Sandra Sent from my iPod > > For those with access, who want to check my reference--the book, Acta Germanopolis ( Records of the CORPORATION OF GERMANTOWN PENNSYLVANIA 1691-1707), Appendix C, page 617, footnote 134, lists a township in Chester County, circa 1700 ,as "Winesence" and another one as "Sulphar "Township ( County uncertain). Are these legitimate early names of the townships or just more evidence of poor spelling common in those days. I suspect "Winesence" could be West Vincent Township; "Sulphar" possibly Schuykil Township in Chester County but that seems to be a real stretch. > >

Hi Steve I am not sure about "Winesence" that could be an error. Sulphar could be a misspelling of Sulfur and I can image a township in many places using that name. I know Chester os quite a distance from Erie PA, but as a kid we stopped at a rest stop.There you could smell the sulfur in the water before you even reached the drinking fountains. Just thought :D Julie -----Original Message----- From: fink438 <fink438@comcast.net> To: PA-OLD-CHESTER-L <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Mar 18, 2012 2:02 pm Subject: [PaOldC] Old Names for Townships in Chester County For those with access, who want to check my reference--the book, Acta Germanopolis ( Records of the CORPORATION OF GERMANTOWN PENNSYLVANIA 1691-1707), Appendix C, page 617, footnote 134, lists a township in Chester County, circa 1700 ,as "Winesence" and another one as "Sulphar "Township ( County uncertain). Are these legitimate early names of the townships or just more evidence of poor spelling common in those days. I suspect "Winesence" could be West Vincent Township; "Sulphar" possibly Schuykil Township in Chester County but that seems to be a real stretch. Steve ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Would you look to see if John Mitchel, carpenter, of West Nottingham is in the book? He died in 1829. His will stated he was a carpenter. I am curious as to whether he made furniture, built barns, or just what his specialty was. Thank you, Mary Mitchell Guler

He's included, as is his father: John Foreman b 1762 d 1818 and John Foreman Jr b 1801-1879. There are several other Foreman.....related? Could be. Aaron W. Foreman 1835=1869 Charles G. Foreman 1848-1886 Moses Foreman 1806-1860 Jonathan Foreman 1826-1850 These are all among the list of cabinet makers, chair makers, clock makers, joiners and turners working in the county before 1850....wives would not be included among these lists, as these are of the craftsmen only....nothing about families. Further info on these fellas can be found in FURNITURE AND ITS MAKERS OF CHESTER COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA, by Margaret Berwind Schiffer. " I wonder if there is anything about a John FOREMAN (1801-1879) married to Mary HARLIN. He was supposedly known for making chairs."

I looked at area wills that might contain a Jane and John Jones....found this, for Bucks Co, that you might want to explore; Page 402. Jane Jones, Northampton Twp. "Far advanced in age." August 12,1794. Proved August 21, 1794.Isaac Chapman exr. Ch. Mary Ann Courson, William Jones, Benjamin Jones; Jane Jones dau. of son Benjamin, gdsn. John Jones; son-in-law Cornelius Courson. Wits: Isaac Edwards, Kuerthe Jones, Isaac Chapman. this is from Chester Co; - JoNES, JANE. Widow. Coventry.August 20, 1747. October 1, 1747. B. 233.To eldest son John Jones £5. To son David Jones £10 being one years rent due to me also £1-10 being money paid Abraham Wideman of his account and to Luce his wife, flannel for a petticoat. To son Evan Jones a horse and to Anne his wife articles named and to his daughter Anne, a mare. To cousin Margaret Davies 20 shillings and drugget to make her little boy a tunic. To son in law John Godfrey all my other effects also executor. Witnesses: David Morgan, Jos. Millard, Benj. Millard. here's another that might be of interest.....there is no will, but there are adm. papers that you can order by visiting Chester County Archives and Records site. JONES, JANE.March 24, 1761. Goshen.Adm. to Evan Jones. Mention of a Jane Jones Williams..... WILLIAMS, ISAAC. Goshen.May 3, 1788. June 19, 1788.To wife Esther her heirs and assigns, plantation whereon I now dwell, containing by estimate, 127 acres, also stock, etc. Plantation in Goshen and Willistown, containing 110 acres and tract in Northumberland containing 301 acres to be sold and proceeds of remainder of estate dividedas follows: To wife £30. To Nephew Ellis Williams £50. To Mary, wife of Henry Lewis, £30, and £5 to each of her children, Esther and Enos. To Jonathan Davis £10, and to his daughter Esther Davis £5. To sister-in-law Elizabeth Williams £3. To nephew Joshua Williams £5. To niece Ann Williams £3. To sister Mary Garrett £10, and to her children £10 to be divided. To sister-in-law Lydia Williams £1. To nephew Jesse Williams 5 shillings. To nephew Isaac Williams £5. To niece Jane Jones 40 shillings. To Nathan Williams 15 shillings. To niece Lydia Williams £1. To cousin Lewis Williams £5. To my wife's grandson Davis Garrett £3. Executors: Wife Esther, nephew Ellis Williams, and Henry Lewis of Radnor. Letters to Esther and Ellis Williams, Lewis having renounced.Wit: James Garrett, Joseph Eldridge, Joshua Evans. (there are many other Jane Jones, but I've looked for those with some sort of a John Jones or a Williams tie.) from your last email "I 'googled' Daniel Williams and found the info that his grandmother was named Jane JONES. Jane Jones m. John Williams in 1717 and they appear to have lived in Goshen, Chester Co., PA. " Because of the Goshen tie, I looked at the births, deaths and marriaged of the Goshen meeting, and while there are many Jones and many Williams, there is no Daniel William and no John Jones/John/Johns.... from your last email; "Fortunately, Wrightsborough , GA, has a nice genealogy page, and they list Daniel Williams, b. 17 July 1747, Chester, PA; m. 11 June 1772, Lancaster, PA; died Wrightsborough, GA 7 Feb. 1802. " Does this info come with any sort of documentation? Do you have ANY idea where it came from? One thing I note is the dates, as they are given. These would never have been used by Quakers, who always date things such as 1st mo 2nd, 1777, for example......if interested, read up a bit on Quaker dating, for the 1st mo is not January and it'd be easier for you to just read about it, if you want, that for me to try to explain it. I, personally, leave them as I find them and don't try to 'change' them into 'normal' dates...too much room for mistakes on my part! Again, if you do some research and see what meetings were in the area where they lived, I'll be glad to see if I can find them in NC meetings.....with a common name like John A Jones you need all the help you can get, in the way of EXACT locations and aprox. dates. Sandra

Woops! Made a mistake. My message below was intended to be about EdgeFIELD, SC. Please forget about Edgecomb, NC. JB On Mar 11, 2012, at 10:08 PM, Jbrown400@aol.com wrote: > You all are WONDERFUL! Great response to #1 query. What I have is > that > John Jones of Edgecomb District, SC, obtained land in the > Mississippi > Territory @ 1818. This appears to be the John A. Jones who married > Betsey > Slaughter in Madison County, AL, in 1816. > > This John A. Jones says, in the census, his father was from PA. > This is > absolutely ALL we know about him, so I'm trying to look at all the > John > Joneses in Edgecomb District, SC. > > > I immediately, by a stroke of luck (?) came across a will for a John > Jones > of Edgefield who died and 1797 and left a will. I can't find anything > about John Jones, but the man he named as executor, Daniel Williams of > Wrightsborough, GA, appears to have been an important Quaker member > of the > Wrightsborough community, and records in Wrightsborough show that he > came from > Chester Co., PA. > > Looking at Chester County, there is a John Jones in W. Nantmeal and a > Daniel Williams in E. Nantmeal. Both are gone from Nantmeal by 1775. > > Looking at the family history of Daniel Williams, his grandmother was > named Jane JONES. Now, I've been down the road for a while, and I > know that > names in genealogy mean little or nothing, but without any real > information > about my John A. Jones in AL and later in McNairy County, TN, I'm > wondering > if Daniel Williams might be a distant relative of the above > mentioned John > Jones of Edgecomb, Co., (who had 7 children when he died and didn't > give > the names of but one of them). > > The prominent name in my family is John A. Jones; unusual names are > Parminus Jones and Govenor R. Jones. Not that these names mean > anything. But > every generation seems to have a John A. Jones. > > I'm fishing. I just don't know how to go about my problem except > to look > at every single John Jones in Edgecomb County, SC, who came from > PA. This > is my first encounter and it seems possible that John Jones who died > in > 1797, and named Daniel Williams as his executor, could be mine. Any > help is > GREATLY appreciated! > > Thanks, > Jan Brown > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

You all are WONDERFUL! Great response to #1 query. What I have is that John Jones of Edgecomb District, SC, obtained land in the Mississippi Territory @ 1818. This appears to be the John A. Jones who married Betsey Slaughter in Madison County, AL, in 1816. This John A. Jones says, in the census, his father was from PA. This is absolutely ALL we know about him, so I'm trying to look at all the John Joneses in Edgecomb District, SC. I immediately, by a stroke of luck (?) came across a will for a John Jones of Edgefield who died and 1797 and left a will. I can't find anything about John Jones, but the man he named as executor, Daniel Williams of Wrightsborough, GA, appears to have been an important Quaker member of the Wrightsborough community, and records in Wrightsborough show that he came from Chester Co., PA. Looking at Chester County, there is a John Jones in W. Nantmeal and a Daniel Williams in E. Nantmeal. Both are gone from Nantmeal by 1775. Looking at the family history of Daniel Williams, his grandmother was named Jane JONES. Now, I've been down the road for a while, and I know that names in genealogy mean little or nothing, but without any real information about my John A. Jones in AL and later in McNairy County, TN, I'm wondering if Daniel Williams might be a distant relative of the above mentioned John Jones of Edgecomb, Co., (who had 7 children when he died and didn't give the names of but one of them). The prominent name in my family is John A. Jones; unusual names are Parminus Jones and Govenor R. Jones. Not that these names mean anything. But every generation seems to have a John A. Jones. I'm fishing. I just don't know how to go about my problem except to look at every single John Jones in Edgecomb County, SC, who came from PA. This is my first encounter and it seems possible that John Jones who died in 1797, and named Daniel Williams as his executor, could be mine. Any help is GREATLY appreciated! Thanks, Jan Brown

I'm not sure you are aware of how common a name Jones was, in Chester County, or how may Johns Jones there are. Jones is a very Welsh surname ....sometimes used interchangeably with John and Johns, so when researching, it's a good idea to look for John John/Johns, too, as well as John Jones.....and as a large group of Welsh settled early on in Chester Co, there are a couple pages, for instance, of Jones, in THE HISTORY OF CHESTER CO, PA, by Futhey and Cope, and over 40 entries for those names John,,,double this all if you consider Johns as the surname.. Daniel William/Williams was probably also Welsh......because of the Welsh patronymic naming pattern, it's always a good working theory to consider anyone whose surname is thought of generally as a given name as potentially being Welsh.....: James, David, John, Philip etc...you get the idea....so the tie in may be that they were both Welsh. I looked for Daniel Williams/William in Futhey and Cope, and the only one I found served in the War of 1812, so probably too late to be of interest to you. None of the other names you include are in Futhey and Cope, either. It would be helpful to know how you're sure all these people lived in Chester Co, Pa, and when that was, even if just an approximate date. It's pretty impossible to find a John Jones, who moved at some undetermined date, (no wife's name), and died elsewhere....not much to go on. I looked through the bios included in Futhey and Cope, as the best chance of find John as part of a family...but, nothing. Do you know what Quaker meeting houses there were in Edgefield, SC? That would be a help, when looking through Quaker records....to know the name of possible meetings John may have joined in SC. I have the Quaker Encyclopedia, but it goes by meeting names and states....so, do some research and let me know some potential meetings to look for. Sandra "John Jones moved from Chester Co, PA, to Edgefield Dist., SC, and died there @ 1797. He left a will that mentions his 7 children (no wife) and gives the name of only one child: Jonathan. Daniel Williams of Wrightsborough, GA, formerly of Chester Co., is John Jones's executor. Witnesses were John Dunkard, Thomas Atkinson and James " Scott.

John Jones moved from Chester Co, PA, to Edgefield Dist., SC, and died there @ 1797. He left a will that mentions his 7 children (no wife) and gives the name of only one child: Jonathan. Daniel Williams of Wrightsborough, GA, formerly of Chester Co., is John Jones's executor. Witnesses were John Dunkard, Thomas Atkinson and James Scott. Does anyone know the names of John Jones's children or what John Jones's connection was to Daniel Williams? I believe they were both Quakers and possibly distant relatives. Were John Dunkard, Thomas Atkinson or James Scott originally from Chester County? Thanks, Jan Brown _jbrown400@aol.com_ (mailto:jbrown400@aol.com)

A friend has just sent me a wonderful book, published in 1980, absolutely filled with the names of those who made the fabulous things Chester Co is noted for...and included are the dates these artisans practiced their crafts. Ceramics, furniture of many periods, gunsmiths, metal workers of all sorts....brass, silver, gold, pewter, etc, and some more 'personal' things like needlecrafts, oil and watercolor paintings and folk art. are all included. I'll be glad to use this book for lookups, if you send me the full name of the person you're searching for, some sort of date, and what you believe their art of craft to have been. ferg@ntelos.net ( on a whim I once bought, somewhere in New England, a standing clock's brass pendulum....this was before my interest in genealogy and long before I had any idea that my folks were from Chester Co). The pendulum said Nottingham, so for 20 years or so I 'assumed' it was Nottingham, England.....it was only later, when I became interested in genealogy, and the area as a whole, that I recognized the name on my pendulum was B. Chandlee, Nottingham..... Chester township in PA, NOT the town in England....... Benjamin made his fabulous clocks from 1718 to 1740, and what a 'coincidence' for me to have bought that pendulum...(cue spooky music!!). S. Jane....please put this book on the lookup list on the Chester Co site, too; the author is Margaret B. Schiffer

Sent to the Dublin Ireland list, living in Lancaster Co it seems I am missing a lot. Eliz A Recent AP news article that I feel would be of interest to this list.........Edd Sinnett PS: I do not search on Tyrone nor Derry lists if you want to foward, PLEASE DO...... Before a funeral at West Laurel Hill Cemetery, Friday, March 9, 2012, in Bala Cynwyd, Pa., caskets for five 19th-century Irish immigrants whose remains were excavated from the Duffy's Cut site. Researchers believe the site in Malvern, Pa., contains the remains of about 50 Irish immigrants from Donegal, Tyrone and Derry.who died weeks after coming to Pennsylvania to build a railroad in 1832. (AP Photo/Matt Rourke) The remains of John Ruddy - Donegal were identified. Historian Bill Watson and his twin brother Frank Watson, also a historian, led a team that set out nearly a decade ago to find out what happened to the workers from Donegal, Tyrone and Derry. They believe many died of cholera and were dumped in a mass grave at Duffy's Cut.( There was a huge epicemic of Cholera during that time frame too ) http://www.centurylink.net/news/read.php?id=18855096&ps=1011&srce=news_class&action=2&lang=en&_LT=UNLC_USNWU00L2_UNEWS ****************************** Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in County Dublin, Ireland and the City of Dublin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-DUBLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In regards to McWilliamstown, Pa. FROM CHESTER COUNTY PLACE NAMES: Youngsburg (pop.25), situated on Strasburg Road about two miles south of Coatesville, at one time had two different names. When the post office was established, the citizens asked the Government to name it in honor of the Young family who had built the first hotel there in 1816. Since there was already a Youngsville post office in Warren County, the Government chose the name McWilliamstown. When John Griffith was appointed postmaster on August 2, 1845, the name was changed to Youngsburgh, but only until December 30, 1847, when the original name was restored. The McWilliamstown post office was discontinued December 17, 1879. (see Hephzibah) church & cemetary. This is in what is now East Fallowfield Twp., and at times Modena, and commonly referred to as extreme South Coatesville. Ray Young In a message dated 3/6/2012 8:33:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, entoman@comcast.net writes: Rich, I have two records for a Lewis Rudolph Wonderly from the First Presbyterian Church of Phoenixville, Chester Co., PA. Would you like me send them to you? Link Davis -----Original Message----- From: Rich Coulter Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 11:42 PM To: pa-old-chester@rootsweb.com Subject: [PaOldC] Cemetery Trying to find where my Grandfather is buried. George W Wonderly b. 1830 d. Sep 10, 1873. Headstones Provided for Deceased Union Civil War Vets, 1879-1903. Says Villiage Cemetery McWilliamstown Chester Pa. But can't seam to find that. Or Village Cemetery Coatesville is there such a place. Thanks Rich ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear listers, I apologize for the long message I am forwarding, but it may be relevant to Walker descendants in Pennsylvania. Thanks, Kim Spangrude On Mar 6, 2012, at 4:17 AM, Tom Hill for MMNA wrote: > Quaker-Roots Listers, > > > > This came through on my old e-mail address and appears relevant to WALKER descendants as well as its questions about burials outside the burial-ground wall. Of course, the first referenced meeting with the developer was last night, but the genealogy issues remain for those of you who do people genealogy. > > > > Tom Hill > > > > Thomas C. Hill > > Charlottesville, VA 22901-6355 U.S.A. > > formerly Cincinnati, OH > > <http://www.quakermeetings.com/> www.QuakerMeetings.com > > E-mail: <mailto:MonthlyMeetings@gmail.com> MonthlyMeetings@gmail.com > > > > _____ > > From: "J. Kunin" > > Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2012 21:28:27 -0500 > > To: Alan Buckingham; Tom Hill; Gwen Boyer Bjorkman > > Subject: Your Thread: "Valley Meeting (Lewis Walker)"--Important Information RE: Potential Development of Property > > > > We found your thread on Ancestry.Com as we were researching the history of Valley Friends Meeting, 1121 Old Eagle School Road, Wayne, PA (Post Office address) The Meeting is actually located in Tredyffrin Township. It is across Old Eagle School Road just opposite the Burial ground and the property once owned by Lewis Walker. > > The former Walker Property, now commonly and locally referred to as "the Richter Tract" for the current owner, is under contract to be sold to a local developer who intends to build townhouses and carriage houses on the property adjacent and just on the west side of the cemetery wall. He has stated interest in building an office building, an apartment building, townhouses, carriage houses, and a WaWa combination convenience store and gas station. He has been in discussion with Township officials for a year, although the matter has only just been made public. Neither the Township nor the developer had notified the Valley Friends Meeting of the proposal, amorphous though the developer and Township officials claim it to be. The residents of Tredyffrin Township are angry and have protested about this development. The Township is in the process of writing a storm water management ordinance that will accommodate the developer's stated plan. > > We noticed that at least one of the contributors to the above quoted Ancestry.Com thread is a descendant of Lewis Walker. We are hoping that some or all of you will be able to attend a meeting to be held at the Tredyffrin Township Building, Duportail Road, Chesterbrook. The Post Office address for the Township Building is Berwyn, PA, though the actual location is in the Chesterbrook development on Chesterbrook Boulevard. Duportail Road is at the south end of Chesterbrook Boulevard just north of Route 202. > > The meeting is Monday, March 5, 2012, 7:00 pm. This is the third meeting on this matter and there will be more. The March 5th meeting is directly with the developer and Township officials are, according to what has been said, not coming to this meeting. > > We understand that there is a spring on the Lewis Walker property and wondered if you knew where it is located. We understand that, after meeting originally in Lewis Walker's home, a log building was constructed on his property which was used as a hospital during Washington's Valley Forge Encampment. We wondered, also, if the location of that building is known. We wondered, as well, if there are any burials outside the western wall of the cemetery. > > The current Valley Friends Meeting building, on the east side of Old Eagle School Road, was built in 1871. > > We hope you will join with us in our efforts to save the Lewis Walker property, aka the Richter tract. > > Thank you for reading and forwarding this letter to others interested parties who might help with this rescue. > > Yours, > Richard and Jacqueline Kunin > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUAKER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Rich, I have two records for a Lewis Rudolph Wonderly from the First Presbyterian Church of Phoenixville, Chester Co., PA. Would you like me send them to you? Link Davis -----Original Message----- From: Rich Coulter Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 11:42 PM To: pa-old-chester@rootsweb.com Subject: [PaOldC] Cemetery Trying to find where my Grandfather is buried. George W Wonderly b. 1830 d. Sep 10, 1873. Headstones Provided for Deceased Union Civil War Vets, 1879-1903. Says Villiage Cemetery McWilliamstown Chester Pa. But can't seam to find that. Or Village Cemetery Coatesville is there such a place. Thanks Rich ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Trying to find where my Grandfather is buried. George W Wonderly b. 1830 d. Sep 10, 1873. Headstones Provided for Deceased Union Civil War Vets, 1879-1903. Says Villiage Cemetery McWilliamstown Chester Pa. But can't seam to find that. Or Village Cemetery Coatesville is there such a place. Thanks Rich

Scottie, Montgomery County Pa was created from land that belonged to Philadelphia County Pa., on 10 September 1784. It is Northwest of Philadelphia, in the Lehigh Valley area. Philadelphia County is one of the 3 original counties created by William Penn, along with Chester and Bucks Co. in November 1682. Tim R. ***** -----Original Message----- From: Scottie Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 5:45 PM To: PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PaOldC] Tax List for Chester Co., Pa. Was searching the tax lists from the 1700s...looking for my George Lute... There is a book on Google, titled "Proprietory Tax Lists County Chester 1765-1769, 1771" It took a while but, I found him George Lute 100 acres 2 horses 2 cattle 2 sheep. A question for you, was Montgomery County once part of Chester Co at that time period?? As I found basically the same info in that county. There is no index that I am aware of but saw many names that we have talked about at one time or the other on that list.. such as Sharpless. Scottie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message