Wm Penn was born in 1644, the son of Admiral Sir Wm Penn and his wife Margaret. (probably in a house on Great Tower Hill). This is near the Tower of London, and in the parish of St Katherine's. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.4/351 - Release Date: 5/29/2006

So that is the source of the bad information about Richard Woodward! There was a Richard Woodward who married Mary Coppock Brittain, but he died in 1727 when his estate was administered by Mary, and the Richard who married first Esther Davis, then Deborah Stanfield, then two others died between 1748 and 1752 when his will was proven. Richard Woodward, Jr.'s four marriages are all well proven in Quaker records. Nadine Holder ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dott114029@aol.com> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 2:44 PM Subject: [PaOldC] Stanfield and Woodward >I was a bit surprised at where it was as Marple Township and Thomas Pearson > is my ancestor > via Deborah Stanfield, wife of Richard Woodward, Jr., but I do see that > she > was born in Marple Township. Nadine Holder > > I have some information for you regarding Richard Woodward.... > > This quote from History of Delaware County, Pennsylvania page 515 by > George > Smith, M.D. printed by HenryB. Ashmead > > "Richard Woodward, with his wife Jane, was an early settler in Middletown, > but the precise time of his immigration is not know. They were Quakers, > and so > far as has come to the knowledge of the writer, their children were > Richard, > Edward and William. Richard Jr. intermarried with Esther Davis, of > Concord, > and subsquently with Mary Britain, a daughter of Bartholomew Coppock, and > Edward > with Abigail, daughter of John and Jane Edge. Richard the elder died in > 1706 > aged seventy years." > > "Francis Stanfield with his wife Grace and family were among the earliest > settlers of Marple township, (168). They were Friends and probably > advanced in > years at the time of their arrival from England. Francis died in 1692, > and his > wife one year earlier. James Stanfield, the son of Francis, intermarried > with Mary Hutchinson of Burlington, N.J., in 1689. His daughters were > Mary, who > intermarried with William Huntly of Birmingham; Elizabeth with Thomas > Hoops; > Grace, with Francis Chadds, and Hannah with Isaac Few. Francis Stanfield > represented Chester County in the Provincial Aassembly in 1685. One or > more > meetings of Friends was held at his house before a meeting was established > at > Bartholomew Coppock's." page 504 > > Hope this helps you in your research. Dottie > > > > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribing.... To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to > PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in > the message or subject slot. > > > NO VIRUS WARNINGS - if you are concerned contact me PERSONALLY > ferg@ntelos.net > > please visit the Chester Co rootsweb site...it is full of area photos, > helpful URLs and lots of county information > http://www.pa-roots.com/~chester/ > > If you have ANY problems, do not send them to the list > contact me personally....list manager ferg@ntelos.net > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

I looked a little more into the naming of Chester and history of Chesire and Chestershire. Chesire, it seems, is a county, and Chester the main town. Historic references to Chester seem to date back to 6th century at least, and that's just what I found in a quick search that pulled up a book written in that era. <http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/basis/bede-book1.html> The Digital Quaker collection online at Earlham.edu <http://dqc.esr.earlham.edu/> has two books on the suffering of early quakers, written by Joseph Besse circa 1750's (you can't link directly to a book because of the way it requires a unique session from the ENTER page) that cover a great deal of info on Quakers of all areas in the late 1600's that were jailed and persecuted. It's a great reference for trying to match up PA ancestors to leads for early Welsh, English and Scottish Quakers who may have emigrated or had children come over after they were killed. You can find stories about jailings, stonings and other persecution that caused early Quakers and their ancestors to migrate. It has many Chester (UK) references that may of be interest. I see Ashmead's History of Delaware County has a footnote online at regarding the claim neither Thomas Pearsons was here until 1683. This gives Pearsons yet another legend - the source of the name of the Tomahawk: <http://www.delcohistory.org/ashmead/ashmead_pg21.htm> 4 Martin's "History of Chester," page 499. See Queries," Penna. Mag. of History, vol. iii. page 358, where the ubiquitous Mr. Pearson presents himself once more in a new light and demanding unexpected honors. The statement in the volume just cited is that in a recent life of Benjamin West it is said, "In the year 1677 or 1678, one Thomas Pearson, from England, settled in a cave on the west bank of the Delaware River, now below Philadelphia. He was a blacksmith by trade, and, it is said, wielded the first smith's hammer in Pennsylvania. About the first work done was to make small axes for his Indian neighbors, who in their short way termed him Tom or Tommy. In their language the word hawk signifies any tool used for cutting, hence the origin of the word tomahawk." That this was "the Pearson" is settled by the statement in the same book quoted from that he was the grandfather of Benjamin West. Here then is the man who, before Penn came, was the only blacksmith in Pennsylvannia making "little hatchets" for the Indians, and from his Christian name and that of the article he produced caused the savages to coin the word "tomathawk." ---- Pearson (supposed to be Robert) turns up in 1682 a passenger on the ship "Welcome," and the proprietary, especially for this ---- Pearson's benefit, changes the name of "Upland" to "Chester" instantly and without reflection. In the future some enterprising historian may yet discover the man who swallowed the first oyster, and I have no doubt that Friend Pierson will have his claims present for that noteworthy act, and in all probability have that claim allowed. Also, quite coincidentally I flipped across the Penn/Pearsons legend in Hazard's Annals of PA, covering the settlement of Delaware from 1609-1682, published 1850. That appears to be the source of some of these legends, though it in turn cites a source as being from an early William Penn bio. So the earliest reference I can find seems to come from Clarkson's "Life of Penn". No idea what date that was published. The actual reference almost sounds to me like it is suggesting Penn responded to the name because Penn was from Chester. It cites Pearson as coming with Penn on the Welcome, and says Penn said "Providence has brought us here safe; thou hast been companion of my perils.; what wilt thou that I should call this place?" Pearson said 'Chester, in rememberance of the city from whence he came.' The way it has Pearson's quote referencing whence he came doesn't sound like Pearson is talking abot where he came from. Where was Penn from or raised?

I am resending the information below for those that missed it due to a subject that was not understood by many. Dottie The following was a question earlier from Nadine Holder.which I hope is answered here, the question being, ... Would then guess that he might be the one responsible for the naming of Chester since he was of Cheshire, England and he was painted by Benjamin West with Penn. And the descendant of the other Thomas Pearson/Pierson may be the one who erred? Nadine Holder The question of the naming of Chester and whether Thomas Pearson was on board with Penn is also clarified in "The History of Chester County Pennyslvania" by Futhey and Cope. It appears that this is not a legend but fact, that Thomas Pearson was on board. Per page 21, Penn is quoted as saying..."turning round to his friend Pearson, one of his own society, who had accompanied him in the ship 'Welcome,' he said, 'Providence has brought us here safe. Thou has been the companion of my perils. What wilt thou that I should call this place?' Pearson said, 'Chester,' in remembrance of the city from whence he came. William Penn replied that it should be called Chester, and that when he divided the land into counties one of them should be called by the same name.' Thus from a mere whim the name of the oldest town; the name of the whole settled part of the province; the name that would naturally have a place in the affections of a large majority of the inhabitants of the new province, was effaced to gratify the caprice or vanity of a friend. All great men occasionally do little things." Since Pearson was the surveyor, he would have come over to survey the lands so that Penn would have an idea to present to the king's representative, Lord Baltimore, on how much land would be needed for his purpose. In fact, after his arrival, according to Cope, he dispatched messengers to Lord Baltimore, the kings representative here, evidently for the purpose of procuring an interview and settling their difficulties and he went to New York to "pay his duty" to the duke by way of a visit to his government. When he returned he caused three counties to be laid off, - Chester, Philadelphia, and Bucks, done on Nov. 25, 1682. Regard Pierson (Thomas and Marg..) and Pearson Again, from the "History of Chester County Pennsylvania", by Futhey and Cope... pg. 22 arrivals 1682 and 1688...There is a Tho: Pierson & Margt his wife, late of Pownell in Cheshire, mason arrived on the Endeaver of London, Geo. Thorp Master, arrived here the 29, 7 mo. 1683. I believe there is the above Thomas Pierson, married to Margaret, as I believe it should be Margaret because Cope puts a small "t" behind Marg). Then there is another Thomas Peirson listed on page 238, a Quaker, who is ..."on 7, 10, 1716 - [I use the spelling as in the book] "Calne meeting mak report to this meeting that they have appointed Thomas Peirson and William Cloude to be overseers for their meeting which this meeting doth approve of." 8, 8, 1717 " Elizabeth Swaffer and Susanna Mendenhall are chosen overseers of Calne meeting." at Quarterly meeting: 6, 6, 1716 - The Request of the ffriends of the Inhabitance of Calne for a firs-Days meeting to be settled amongst them, being considered it is the sence of this meeting that they may keep a first days meeting there & have Liberty to build a meeting house on the land of John Mendinhall according to the friends Proposall." and.. At Concord Monthly Meeting: 8,7, 1717 - John Mendenhall, Junr, is appointed overseer for Calne in room of Wm. Cloude who desire to be excused." Makes me think that above Thomas Peirson,the mason, married to Margaret, is the one related to the Mendenhalls. Thomas Pearson the surveyor, settled in Marple, and he came from Chichester, England. Per Futhey and Cope "History of Chester County Pennsylvania page 655: under John and Benjamin Mendenhall.... "John Mendenhall married Elizabeth in 1685, daughter of George Maris and had a son John b. 4, 3, 1688 who married Susanna Pierson, 1709, son Aaron, b 9,20,1690 d. 4, 30 1765 who married 4, 16, 1715 to Rose Pierson, sister of Susanna and daughter of Thomas Pierson. John, Jr., and Aaron settled in East Caln, whence John went to Lancaster County and finally to Virginia." I suggest to you that this Thomas Pierson who married Margaret was the father of Susanna and Rose Pierson, was a mason, not a surveyor. That his father was the brother to Thomas Pearson, the surveyor and that his father's name was Edward Pierson. I believe this because, Per the "History of Delaware County Pennsylvania by G. Smith, M.D. 1862... and I quote, "The Thomas Pearson who was the surveyor for W. Penn and who married Margery, had daughter Sarah Pearson who married John West and was the mother of the famou artist Benjamin West. This Thomas Pearson had a brother Edward who spelled his last name Pierson who was a mason from Chesire England and he had sons Lawrence, Abel and Thomas. Per page 492 "Edward Pierson from Ponnalifee, in Cheshire, England, settled in Darbytownship in 1687. By trade he was a mason and probably followed that business. He was a member of the Society of Friends, but was not so strict a member as was usual in his day. There are reasons for believing that he was a brotther of Thomas Pearson, who accompanied William Penn, and who was instrumental in changing the name of Upland to Chester, though his name is spelled differently. He had a son Lawrence, and probably oone named Thomas and another Abel. It is said he removed to Bucks County." pg 492 Their brother John Pearson, was not married and died without children. Then there is the third Thomas Pearson who married Hannah Blunston and had a daughter Susanna who married Hugh Lloyd. Susanna was born in 1746, in Darby per the book Colonial and Revolutionary Families. I also have a very old book, that is falling apart, "The History of Delaware County Pennsylvania", written in 1862 by George Smith, M.D. in it, is a biography of Thomas Pearson, and I quote from page 490: "Pearson, Thomas, frequently called Thomas Person, with his wife Margery, came from England with William Penn when on his first visit to Pennsylvania. If any reliance can be placed on tradition, it was upon his suggestion that the name of Upland was changed to Chester. He settled in Marple township on the tract marked "Thomas Perce" on Holme's map. His children were Robert, Thomas, Lawrence, Enoch, John, Alice, Sarah and Benjamin, all born in this country. His daughter Sarah, intermarried with John West and was the mother of the great painter Benjamin West. His son Robert Pearson, intermarried with Catharine the daughter of James Thomas of Merion. Thomas Pearson the elder was alive in 1706. Besides Pearson, some of his descendants took the name of Parsons, Person and Pierson." The next Pearson is not the son of the above Thomas Pearson since he did not immigrate until 1712 from England.this information also from "The History of Delaware County Pennsylvania", written in 1862 by George Smith, M.D.also pg 490: Pearson, Benjamin, with his wife Susanna and family emigrated from the town of Rotherham in the West Riding of Yorkshire England about the year 1712, and settled in Darby. His wife's maiden name was Susanna Burbeck. They were in membership with Friends at the time of their arrival. Benjamin was a very sedate man, strongly English in his notions, and never became fully reconciled to this country. He never would admit that its products were equal to those of England - turnips only excepted. He died in 1763 aged 81 years, the death of his wife having occurred eighteen years earlier. They had been better educated than was usual for immigrants in that day, but Benjamin feeling so little interested in the country never made any exertions to acquire property in it. Their children were Benjamin, Thomas and Isaac born in England and John, Joseph, Samuel and Joshua, born in this country. Thomas, the second son married Hannah, the daughter of Samuel Blunston and grand daughter of the immigrant John Blunston, and settled in Darby. From their oldest son John Pearson, who married Anne Bevan all the Darby Pearson families have descended. I hope this clears up a few questions about who Thomas Pearson the surveyor was and obviously there were several Thomas Pearsons in the same area. Dottie

I don't see George Smedley on the list of approved ancestors for The Welcome Society. If you could prove he came over on any ship (not just The Welcome)in 1682, you could join that society. Here is the link to already approved ancestors. http://www.welcomesociety.org/Welcome_ancestors.htm Susan --- Original Message --- From: "George Smedley" <smedley.george@att.net> To: PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: ship list >Cope indicates that most of the signers of George Smedley's marriage certificate were also shipmates on the voyage over >They are >George Wood >Richard Bonsall >Thomas Worth >John Blunston >Joshua Fearne (fferne) >Thomas Hood >I cannot find any of these names on any ship list. >I fear they were never recorded or the list was lost >

Hi Janice, I think you and I may've been in contact before. I have done a lot of research on Howell JAMES, since I once suspected he was related to my David JAMES 1669- 1739. Howell's certificate of removal is recorded in the Radnor Monthly Meeting records of Chester co, PA. He came to PA in 1684, but I have never found anything to indicate which ship he was on. DNA test results have since indicated that Howell is not related to my David, but since only one person from Howell's line has participated in the JAMES DNA project, I'm always looking for others from that line. So, if you know of any male JAMES, please let me know! It looks as though there were MANY unrelated JAMES families living in Chester and Bucks counties at the same time!! The DNA project is helping to sort them all out. http://www.jamesdna.net/ Susan --- Original Message --- From: Jrcinsd2@aol.com To: PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: finding ancestor's ship >I'm following this idea with great interest. Since I live in the Pacific >Northwest it is not possible for me to do in-person research in PA. I don't want >or ask anyone to do my research for me.....is there a way on-line to find out >which ship an ancestor came over on? > >I am descended from Howell JAMES who came over in the 1680s. > >thanks in advance for heading me in the right direction. > >Janice

Re: the subject Marple Township from genlove@comcast The questions was.....Also, I am interested to know where "Marple" is located in reference to today? Is it in New Jersey and about what location? Hi List - here is an answer to your question about Marple township, Pennsylvania From a very old map I have of Delaware county, Pennsylvania, Thomas Pearson, the surveyor, settled in Marple, which was located below Newton township and above Springfield township, west of Haverford and northwest of Darby. This map is old, about 1692. The owners of land in the area of Marple are Jonathan Hayes, Peter Worrall, Henry Hamuns, James Stanfield, Francis Stanfield, Joseph Selby, Thomas Pearson, Ralph Dracott (2nd owner), George Willard. The road from Radnor to Chester seperates the township. David Morris, John Pugh, Jonathan Tayler, Josiah Tayler, Richard Thomson, Daniel Williamson, John Howell, Thomas Massey, Joseph Rhoads and Barthl Coppock Senior own land on the east side of the road from Radnor to Chester. Marple was laid out in 1691. Darby Creek is the eastern boundary of Marple and Crum Creek is the Western boundary for Marple. It is in Pennsylvania, not New Jersey. Hope this clarifies it for you, Dottie

> OK, all this talk of Pearson has finally nudged me to jump in. I have > an Elizabeth Pearson (born Dec 8 1726 in Bucks County, Pennsylvania; > don't have that date/place documented) married John Townsend (born abt > 1724 in Bucks County, Penn; documented by David Greene,PhD, CG, FASG, > in the Pennsylvania Genealogist, Volume 42, Number 4). John's father > was Joseph, and his grandfather was John, who was the brother of a > Richard Townsend who was on the Welcome with William Penn (also have > documentation of this). They were married on Oct 3, 1749 - documented > by records at the Buckingham MM, Bucks County, Penn. She died October > 15, 1795 in Union County, south Carolina, and is buried in the Sardis > Cemetery, Union County, South Carolina. Here is my question: 1. Can anyone find an accurate DOB on Elizabeth? 2. Was her father Enoch, son of Edward, and was Edward the brother of Thomas, who is the subject of all the discussion surrounding the naming of CHester, Pennsylvania? THanks, Kim Townsend Spangrude

There is a link to a 1780 Chester County Map on the Chester Archives Web Site that shows the township of Marple http://dsf.chesco.org/archives/cwp/view.asp?a=3&Q=609913 I was a bit surprised at where it was as Francis Stanfield is my ancestor via Deborah Stanfield, wife of Richard Woodward, Jr., but I do see that she was born in Marple Township. Nadine Holder ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dott114029@aol.com> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 11:19 AM Subject: [PaOldC] Marple Township and Thomas Pearson > Re: the subject Marple Township from genlove@comcast > > The questions was.....Also, I am interested to know where "Marple" is > located > in reference to today? Is it in New Jersey and about what location? > Hi List - here is an answer to your question about Marple township, > Pennsylvania > >>From a very old map I have of Delaware county, Pennsylvania, Thomas >>Pearson, > the surveyor, settled in Marple, which was located below Newton township > and > above Springfield township, west of Haverford and northwest of Darby. > This map > is old, about 1692. The owners of land in the area of Marple are Jonathan > Hayes, Peter Worrall, Henry Hamuns, James Stanfield, Francis Stanfield, > Joseph > Selby, Thomas Pearson, Ralph Dracott (2nd owner), George Willard. The > road > from Radnor to Chester seperates the township. David Morris, John Pugh, > Jonathan > Tayler, Josiah Tayler, Richard Thomson, Daniel Williamson, John Howell, > Thomas Massey, Joseph Rhoads and Barthl Coppock Senior own land on the > east side of > the road from Radnor to Chester. Marple was laid out in 1691. Darby > Creek > is the eastern boundary of Marple and Crum Creek is the Western boundary > for > Marple. It is in Pennsylvania, not New Jersey. > > Hope this clarifies it for you, Dottie > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribing.... To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to > PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com > with the single word unsubscribe in the message or subject slot. > > NO VIRUS WARNINGS - if you are concerned contact me PERSONALLY > ferg@ntelos.net > > If you have ANY problems, do not send them to the list > contact me personally....list manager ferg@ntelos.net > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

>From a very old map I have of Delaware county, Pennsylvania, Thomas >Pearson,...about 1692. The road from Radnor to Chester seperates the township. Any idea if the township still matches the road line? Can you tell me more about the map of Marple and Radnor Chester Road or where you found it? Can you share a copy or point me to a source? My parents live on a Radnor-Chester Road, about 1 mile from Radnor Meeting in Radnor. Nowadays that area is more known as Wayne. I would be very interesting in seeing the map because I know the old roads around there well. Currently a south end of the road named Radnor-Chester is at Radnor Meeting and the north end is by Radnor train station at King of Prussia Road. This is actually north of Radnor Meeting and Chester is south, so I think the original road name change and left just a fragment. In late 1600's I know that an Evans family owned land around the north along this, and that some Roberts families were just past that a few miles. This link is to the approximate location of Radnor Friends Meeting. <http://maps.google.com/maps?oi=map&q=Conestoga+Road+And+Sproul+Road,+Radnor ,+PA> Radnor Meeting is at about 8 O'Clock on the intersection of the new interstate 495, Conestoga, and Sproul Road. It should be centered on this if you zoom in. It's just south of where Radnor Chester ends at Conestoga Rd and west of 495 and 320. I suspect 320/Sproul was the original Radnor Chester Road extending to Chester. If you zoom in you see a nexus of Conegstoga Road headed west, probably predating Lancaster Pike a bit. Lancaster Pike (rt 30) to the north connects east via the Welsh Quaker tract past Bryn Mawr, Haverford, and Merion to Philadelphia and was the first major road west. Head east from Radnor Meeting and it heads to Haverford and Merion Meetings. I-495 almost displaced Radnor Meeting some years ago. What's left of Radnor Chester road runs a bit north of that, but I suspect that this is just a north leg of a mile or so really headed towards Matson's Ford Road, Conshohoken and Plymouth Meeting. King of Prussia road also intersects nearby, as well as Darby Paoli Road. That area must have been an early crossroads since so many of the roads remain named after the places they are from or two. Probably great land for taverns and inns. I think the Marple question may have been answered, but if you run directions to Broomall, PA from the link on Google at Radnor it will map to Marple Township and Broomall down old Sproul Rd (320).

In NJ Archives Volume XXI, comprised of records of old land transactions (which I have not seen but am involved in proofing & fixing up for posting), there is one Thomas PEARSON contemporary with the one recently discussed here on this list in conjunction with the visit of William Penn. I don't know if this man is the same as one of those two or three already discussed here, or if he is another man, but he is is mentioned first in 1677, when he purchsed shares from WIlliam Penn. He was still selling parcels of these shares as late as 1687. In March 1677, Thomas PEARSON/PIERSON "of Bonwick", along with others, bought shares in West Jersey from William Penn. West Jersey being that part of NJ along the Delaware River. Shortly after their purchase --even before a receipt was issued by Penn -- these partners, as many other shareholders did, began dividing off and selling parcels of these shares. PEARSON sold land to various persons, including to those living on the Pennsylvania-Delaware side (e.g. Upland, Whorekil, Maryland). 1676-7 March 1. Deed. William PENN at Rickmersworth, Co. of Hertford, Esqre, Gawen LAWRIE of London, merchant, Nicholas LUCAS of Hertford, maulster, and Edward BYLLINGE of Westminster, gentleman, to Thomas HUTCHINSON of Beverly, Thomas PEIRSON of Bonwick, Joseph HELMSLEY of Great Kelke, George HUTCHESON of Sheffield and Mahlon STACY of Hansworth, Co. of Yorke, tanner, for 7 shares of W. J. [p. 131] 1676-6 March 1. Do. Same to same, for 3 shares. [p. 138] 1677 April 5. Receipt to Thomas PEARSON of Bonwick and Joseph HELMSLEY from William PENN et. al. for 1-6 of ten shares of West Jersey. By 1684, a Robert PEARSON appears in West Jersey land transactions, buying land between Crosswicks and Rancocas; I had thought he was also from "Bonwyck" and had been the father of Thomas, but would have to look again for where I found that. By 1693, an Isaac PEARSON has a patent for land in Salem NJ (Fenwick's colony). There are a few others; I don't think the surname is very unusual. From time to time, persons living in the Old-Chester area or in Philadelphia do seem to appear in NJ archives. If anyone is interested in reading more early NJ land transctions, transcriptions can be found in archives of the NJ-List, starting sometime in early 2006. These transcriptions will continue to be posted for a while yet. Good luck & Best wishes, Liz J

Morris Llewellyn was born at Castlebith, Pembrokeshire, South Wales in the year 1645 and his wife Ann, whose maiden name was Young, was born two years later. They migrated about the year 1686 to Pennsylvania and settled in the northwest part of Haverford township. Morris had suffered persecution in his native coutnry by distraint for the payment of tithes. They were exemplary member of the Society of Friends, Morris being frequently entrusted with responsible appointments by the meeting. Their children were David, Mary, Morris and Griffith - all born in Wales, except the last named. David intermarried in 1706 with Margaret Lawrence of Haverford and after her decease, with Margaret Ellis of Gwynedd and Morris with Elizabeth Thomas of Merion. All quoted from the book, "History of Delaware County, Pennsylvania'", by George Smith M.D. printed 1862page 480 Dottie

Marriage Certificate of Aaron Mendenhall and Rose Pierson can be found in MENDENHALL MATTERS, Vol 6 Number 1 January 1999. Go to: http://www.mendenhall.org 1) Scroll down to Newsletter; 2) Click on the date of desired issue. Each issue is a PDF File and it may be printed. Violet Moore Guy

X-Message: #10 Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 14:56:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Pearson-Peirson Would then guess that he might be the one responsible for the naming of Chester since he was of Cheshire, England and he was painted by Benjamin West with Penn. And the descendant of the other Thomas Pearson/Pierson may be the one who erred? Nadine Holder Answer to above question: Per the "History of Delaware County Pennsylvania by G. Smith, M.D. 1862... The Thomas Pearson who was the surveyor for W. Penn and who married Margery, had daughter Sarah Pearson who married John West and was the mother of the famou artist Benjamin West. This Thomas Pearson had a brother Edward who spelled his last name Pierson who was a mason from Chesire England and he had sons Lawrence, Abel and Thomas. Per page 492 "Edward Pierson from Ponnalifee, in Cheshire, England, settled in Darbytownship in 1687. By trade he was a mason and probably followed that business. He was a member of the Society of Friends, but was not so strict a member as was usual in his day. There are reasons for believing that he was a brotther of Thomas Pearson, who accompanied William Penn, and who was instrumental in changing the name of Upland to Chester, though his name is spelled differently. He had a son Lawrence, and probably oone named Thomas and another Abel. It is said he removed to Bucks County." pg 492 Their brother John Pearson, was not married and died without children.

In a message dated 5/26/06 6:00:46 PM Mountain Daylight Time, PA-OLD-CHESTER-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: Also, I am interested to know where "Marple" is located in reference to today? Is it in New Jersey and about what location? Hi List - here are some answers to your questions, From a very old map I have of Delaware county, Pennsylvania, Thomas Pearson, the surveyor, settled in Marple, which was located below Newton township and above Springfield township, west of Haverford and northwest of Darby. This map is old, about 1692. The owners of land in the area of Marple are Jonathan Hayes, Peter Worrall, Henry Hamuns, James Stanfield, Francis Stanfield, Joseph Selby, Thomas Pearson, Ralph Dracott (2nd owner), George Willard. The road from Radnor to Chester seperates the township. David Morris, John Pugh, Jonathan Tayler, Josiah Tayler, Richard Thomson, Daniel Williamson, John Howell, Thomas Massey, Joseph Rhoads and Barthl Coppock Senior own land on the east side of the road from Radnor to Chester. Marple was laid out in 1691. Darby Creek is the eastern boundary of Marple and Crum Creek is the Western boundary for Marple. It is in Pennsylvania, not New Jersey. The question of the naming of Chester and whether Thomas Pearson was on board with Penn is also clarified in "The History of Chester County Pennyslvania" by Futhey and Cope. It appears that this is not a legend but fact, that Thomas Pearson was on board. Per page 21, Penn is quoted as saying..."turning round to his friend Pearson, one of his own society, who had accompanied him in the ship 'Welcome,' he said, 'Providence has brought us here safe. Thou has been the companion of my perils. What wilt thou that I should call this place?' Pearson said, 'Chester,' in remembrance of the city from whence he came. William Penn replied that it should be called Chester, and that when he divided the land into counties one of them should be called by the same name.' Thus from a mere whim the name of the oldest town; the name of the whole settled part of the province; the name that would naturally have a place in the affections of a large majority of the inhabitants of the new province, was effaced to gratify the caprice or vanity of a friend. All great men occasionally do little things." Since Pearson was the surveyor, he would have come over to survey the lands so that Penn would have an idea to present to the king's representative, Lord Baltimore, on how much land would be needed for his purpose. In fact, after his arrival, according to Cope, he dispatched messengers to Lord Baltimore, the kings representative here, evidently for the purpose of procuring an interview and settling their difficulties and he went to New York to "pay his duty" to the duke by way of a visit to his government. When he returned he caused three counties to be laid off, - Chester, Philadelphia, and Bucks, done on Nov. 25, 1682. Regard Pierson (Thomas and Marg..) and Pearson Again, from the History of Chester County Pennsylvania, by Futhey and Cope... pg. 22 arrivals 1682 and 1688...There is a Tho: Pierson & Margt his wife, late of Pownell in Cheshire, mason arrived on the Endeaver of London, Geo. Thorp Master, arrived here the 29, 7 mo. 1683. I believe there is the above Thomas Pierson, married to Margaret, as I believe it should be Margaret because Cope puts a small "t" behind Marg). Then there is another Thomas Peirson listed on page 238, a Quaker, who is ..."on 7, 10, 1716 - [I use the spelling as in the book] "Calne meeting mak report to this meeting that they have appointed Thomas Peirson and William Cloude to be overseers for their meeting which this meeting doth approve of." 8, 8, 1717 " Elizabeth Swaffer and Susanna Mendenhall are chosen overseers of Calne meeting." at Quarterly meeting: 6, 6, 1716 - The Request of the ffriends of the Inhabitance of Calne for a firs-Days meeting to be settled amongst them, being considered it is the sence of this meeting that they may keep a first days meeting there & have Liberty to build a meeting house on the land of John Mendinhall according to the friends Proposall." and.. At Concord Monthly Meeting: 8,7, 1717 - John Mendenhall, Junr, is appointed overseer for Calne in room of Wm. Cloude who desire to be excused." Makes me think that this Thomas Peirson is the one related to the Mendenhalls. Thomas Pearson the surveyor, settled in Marple, as he came from Chichester, England. Any thoughts on this? see below Per Futhey and Cope "History of Chester County Pennsylvania page 655: under John and Benjamin Mendenhall.... "John Mendenhall married Elizabeth in 1685, daughter of George Maris and had a son John b. 4, 3, 1688 who married Susanna Pierson, 1709, son Aaron, b 9,20,1690 d. 4, 30 1765 who married 4, 16, 1715 to Rose Pierson, sister of Susanna and daughter of Thomas Pierson. John, Jr., and Aaron settled in East Caln, whence John went to Lancaster County and finally to Virginia." Then there is the third Thomas Pearson who married Hannah Blunston and had daughter Susanna who married Hugh Lloyd. Susanna was born in 1746, in Darby per the book Colonial and Revolutionary Families. I also have a very old book, that is falling apart, "The History of Delaware County Pennsylvania", written in 1862 by George Smith, M.D. in it, is written about Thomas Pearson, and I quote from page 490: "Pearson, Thomas, frequently called Thomas Person, with his wife Margery, came from England with William Penn when on his first visit to Pennsylvania. If any reliance can be placed on tradition, it was upon his suggestion that the name of Upland was changed to Chester. He settled in Marple township on the tract marked "Thomas Perce" on Holme's map. His children were Robert, Thomas, Lawrence, Enoch, John, Alice, Sarah and Benjamin, all born in this country. His daughter Sarah, intermarried with John West and was the mother of the great painter Benjamin West. His son Robert Pearson, intermarried with Catharine the daughter of James Thomas of Merion. Thomas Pearson the elder was alive in 1706. Besides Pearson, some of his descendants took the name of Parsons, Person and Pierson." the next Pearson is not the son of the above Pearson since he did not immigrate until 1712 from England. also pg 490: Pearson, Benjamin, with his wife Susanna and family emigrated from the town of Rotherham in the West Riding of Yorkshire England about the year 1712, and settled in Darby. His wife's maiden name was Susanna Burbeck. They were in membership with Friends at the time of their arrival. Benjamin was a very sedate man, strongly English in his notions, and never became fully reconciled to this country. He never would admit that its products were equal to those of England - turnips only excepted. He died in 1763 aged 81 years, the death of his wife having occurred eighteen years earlier. They had been better educated than was usual for immigrants in that day, but Benjamin feeling so little interested in the country never made any exertions to acquire property in it. Their children were Benjamin, Thomas and Isaac born in England and John, Joseph, Samuel and Joshua, born in this country. Thomas, the second son married Hannah, the daughter of Samuel Blunston and grand daughter of the immigrant John Blunston, and settled in Darby. From their oldest son John Pearson, who married Anne Bevan all the Darby Pearson families have descended. ---------------------------- Morris Llewellyn was born at Castlebith, Pembrokeshire, South Wales in the year 1645 and his wife Ann, whose maiden name was Young, was born two years later. They migrated about the year 1686 to Pennsylvania and settled in the northwest part of Haverford township. Morris had suffered persecution in his native coutnry by distraint for the payment of tithes. They were exemplary member of the Society of Friends, Morris being frequently entrusted with responsible appointments by the meeting. Their children were David, Mary, Morris and Griffith - all born in Wales, except the last named. David intermarried in 1706 with Margaret Lawrence of Haverford and after her decease, with Margaret Ellis of Gwynedd and Morris with Elizabeth Thomas of Merion. All quoted from the History of Delaware County, by George Smith M.D. printed 1862page 480 Hope this information helps you. Dottie

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Thanks very much, Violet. However, I was really looking for Morris Llewelyn who, according to family tradition, moved to the Welsh Tract, SW of Philadelphia in 1682, possibly before Willima Penn arrived on the Welcome that same year. Sandra had sent me some stuff off line about him, along with cautionary comments about multiple spellings. I was negligent in not using his full name. Coinicentally however, my mother-in-law's maiden name was Morris. A sister-in-law has dnoe considerable genealogy on the Morrises and data filed somewhere (misplaced since I moved 2 years ago). Further coinicidence in that I grew up in the Germanotwn area of Philadelphia, near Chsestnut Hill and have fond memories of trips to tha Morris Arboretum. We defitely were not "old money", and in the Great Depression were not "money" of any sort. I know nothing about the Morrises you describe, nor whether there was any connection with my mother-in-law (she was one of six sisters, so that branch did not survice). Another reason I have done little with the Morris's that the name is so common that you really have to know a location and a time frame to get a handle on it. Similarly, my mother's nmaiden name was Hunt and her fother was Hermon (sic), although I have seen it misspelled as the more common "Herman". Starting with Oskaloosa and the information that Hermon's father was Daniiel, I have found some information and gained more from Jerry Richmond who shared his data with me. Interestingly, another Daniel Hunt was a much more prominent Quaker in the same area, and was known as a poerful speaker. Well I have rambled on about several of my family names. If anyone wants more, I can try to send it to you. However my main interests are Morris Llewelyn (see above) and Walter and Rachel Marriage, my great grandparents, English Quakers who ended up in Oskaloosa and other parts of Iowa by way of Montyreal, Clover Depot, VA and Lincolnton, NC. The lived from the 1820s to the 1890s. Happy Hunting (as we kids used to say). Eleanor --- Violet Guy <guyj@starpower.net> wrote: > I sent this to Eleanor Helper, because she was looking for the > surname MORRIS! > > Below is info about the beautiful Morris Arboretum > > http://www.business-services.upenn.edu/arboretum/aboutthearboretum2.html > The Morris Arboretum of the University of Pennsylvania began in 1887 > as "Compton," the summer home of John and Lydia Morris, brother and > sister. The I.P. Morris Company, an iron-manufacturing firm founded > by their father and later run by John Morris, was a source of family > wealth. > > > http://www.business-services.upenn.edu/arboretum/ > > > [This is near Chestnut Hill section of Philadelphia, PA Chestnut > Hill is "old money"! And IT is beautiful. My husband was a food > scientist at nearby USDA-ERRC, Wynmoor, Montgomery County, > Pennsylvania -- for many years. We lived in Laverock, Springfield > Twp, MontCo, PA -- Laverock (Valley of the Lark) sounds Welsh, does > it not? > > Violet Moore Guy > 05/28/2006 > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribing.... To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to > PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com with the single word > unsubscribe in the message or subject slot. > > > NO VIRUS WARNINGS - if you are concerned contact me PERSONALLY > ferg@ntelos.net > > please visit the Chester Co rootsweb site...it is full of area > photos, helpful URLs and lots of county information > http://www.pa-roots.com/~chester/ > > If you have ANY problems, do not send them to the list > contact me personally....list manager ferg@ntelos.net > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

I sent this to Eleanor Helper, because she was looking for the surname MORRIS! Below is info about the beautiful Morris Arboretum http://www.business-services.upenn.edu/arboretum/aboutthearboretum2.html The Morris Arboretum of the University of Pennsylvania began in 1887 as "Compton," the summer home of John and Lydia Morris, brother and sister. The I.P. Morris Company, an iron-manufacturing firm founded by their father and later run by John Morris, was a source of family wealth. http://www.business-services.upenn.edu/arboretum/ [This is near Chestnut Hill section of Philadelphia, PA Chestnut Hill is "old money"! And IT is beautiful. My husband was a food scientist at nearby USDA-ERRC, Wynmoor, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania -- for many years. We lived in Laverock, Springfield Twp, MontCo, PA -- Laverock (Valley of the Lark) sounds Welsh, does it not? Violet Moore Guy 05/28/2006