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I learned my lesson about name spellings when I found a VA family will of mine, with the same woman's name spelled 3 completely different ways....in the same will! You KNOW she didn't use 3 spellings, so the clerk just couldn't make up his mind! It's always stuck with me as absolute proof that clerks get things WRONG! Sarah Andrew did attend the David Harlan marriage in 1756.... these 2 marriages are the only mentions of anyone named Andrew, in New Garden meeting 1704-1799, so they apparently didn't have family in this meeting. I checked the CD of PA wills and found another Robert Andrew, mentioned in a Chester will....he is said to be married to Agnes, referred to as the niece of Susanna Ramsey, of Sadsbury....the will went through probate in 1759..... S. " I do tend to forget about "recording persons" spelling what they think instead of the correct information whether it be date of birth, name, rank or serial number. As you say, only a signature will yield the correct spelling, excepting the ubiquitous "X", which isn't much help. While I am at it, thanks so much for the new references to Robert Andrew as a wedding guest. Odd that his wife, Sarah, didn't show up at the one in 1756." -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release Date: 7/10/2006

Sandra.... By using "to" instead of "from" I sure messed up the meaning of my musings about the name Andrew. Thanks for keeping me honest! I meant to say that some people named Mac Andrew shortened the name to Andrew without the Mac or Mc or Ma or whatever. I do tend to forget about "recording persons" spelling what they think instead of the correct information whether it be date of birth, name, rank or serial number. As you say, only a signature will yield the correct spelling, excepting the ubiquitous "X", which isn't much help. While I am at it, thanks so much for the new references to Robert Andrew as a wedding guest. Odd that his wife, Sarah, didn't show up at the one in 1756. Cheers, Phil Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@ntelos.net> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 5:26 PM Subject: [PaOldC] Robert Andrew > A Robert Andrew also attended the marriage of David Harlan and Allice > Star, 16, 12m 1756....and Simon Dixon of Cane Creek meeting, who married > Elizabeth Allen of Londongrove 8 11m 1752. These both took place in the > New Garden MM, Chester Co. > Remember, the names you find in records are not necessarily the way an > individual spelled his name.....they only represent the way a clerk > believed the name to be spelled. As we've said so many times, a signature > is the only way to know how a person spelled his name, and unfortunately > these are hard to come by.... > Also, I doubt that anyone would shorten a name by adding a Mac to > it........it would be much more likely to go the other way round....a Scot > whose name was Mac Andrew might shorten it to Andrew, NOT add the > prefix...Mac and Mc were Gallic prefaces meaning son of, so it's not the > thing someone named Andrew would suddenly just choose to use. > > S. > > > "my ancestor is my gggg-grandfather, Robert Andrew who appears in > London Grove twp of Chester County as a wedding guest on 3m 25 1748, and > again, with wife, Sarah, 18 12m 1756 at a different wedding. > You made a reference to Adam's name possibly being Mac Andrew. Do > you have any reference to that name in any document? I have long thought > that some Andrew people shortened their names to Mac Andrew instead of > changing to the > more common Andrews settled for Andrew. I know that the small distinction > was strictly observed in my family." > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release Date: 7/10/2006 > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribing. To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to > PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com > with the single word unsubscribe in the message or subject slot." > > > NO VIRUS WARNINGS - if you are concerned contact me PERSONALLY > ferg@ntelos.net > > Visit the archives for this list to view old postings > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=PA-OLD-CHESTER > > If you have ANY problems, do not send them to the list..contact me > personally....list manager ferg@ntelos.net > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

I tried all your name spellings in PA wills, and only came up with one that might be of interest to you..... there was a Wm Vasey in Bucks Co, who witnessed a will in 1774. S. Does anyone out there have more information on John Veazey of New Garden, Chester Co., PA or Thomas Vezey of E. Notingham? The year would be ca 1766. I'm still stuck with my Vasey/Vaysey/Wasey etc. family in Bucks county, Samuel my 3G grandfather having been born ca 1808-1815 somewhere in PA. He does not show up clearly on the census until 1850. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release Date: 7/10/2006

A Robert Andrew also attended the marriage of David Harlan and Allice Star, 16, 12m 1756....and Simon Dixon of Cane Creek meeting, who married Elizabeth Allen of Londongrove 8 11m 1752. These both took place in the New Garden MM, Chester Co. Remember, the names you find in records are not necessarily the way an individual spelled his name.....they only represent the way a clerk believed the name to be spelled. As we've said so many times, a signature is the only way to know how a person spelled his name, and unfortunately these are hard to come by.... Also, I doubt that anyone would shorten a name by adding a Mac to it........it would be much more likely to go the other way round....a Scot whose name was Mac Andrew might shorten it to Andrew, NOT add the prefix...Mac and Mc were Gallic prefaces meaning son of, so it's not the thing someone named Andrew would suddenly just choose to use. S. "my ancestor is my gggg-grandfather, Robert Andrew who appears in London Grove twp of Chester County as a wedding guest on 3m 25 1748, and again, with wife, Sarah, 18 12m 1756 at a different wedding. You made a reference to Adam's name possibly being Mac Andrew. Do you have any reference to that name in any document? I have long thought that some Andrew people shortened their names to Mac Andrew instead of changing to the more common Andrews settled for Andrew. I know that the small distinction was strictly observed in my family." -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release Date: 7/10/2006

Sandra, This one is exciting. On the second batch of readings, there is a James Cox. One of my Andrew women married a James Cox - I'll have to research this and see if it is the same family. Their son James married Eliza Andrew and their son (also James) became Gov. of Ohio , for two terms, and he ran for President against Warren Harding! Thanks for sending it. I can't wait to confirm it. Where was that cemetery, because the Cox family lived just one mile from my Andrew family in Butler Co., OH. Now to find a cemetery or church close to this union hill cemetery!! Ann Werling Sandra Ferguson <ferg@ntelos.net> wrote: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/chester/cemeteries/stpetersucc.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/chester/cemeteries/unionhill.txt -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release Date: 7/10/2006 ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== Unsubscribing. To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in the message or subject slot." NO VIRUS WARNINGS - if you are concerned contact me PERSONALLY ferg@ntelos.nettp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/pa-old-chester this site allows you to browse by month.. please visit the Chester Co rootsweb site...it is full of area photos, helpful URLs and lots of county information http://www.pa-roots.com/~chester/ if you have a problem contact ME ferg@ntelos and NOT the list ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.

First of all, how good is the info you have? Is it from primary resources, or from somewhere, on the web....undocumented..... where you found the info makes a big difference. In general, what you need to do is start with a provable generation and work backwards, one generation at a time, documenting each one, before moving back to the next generation back. It's okay to 'gather' internet data, but don't accept it as truth...just as clues...so, what is the earliest provable generation you have. (names, dates and places)...we should start there. (just at a glance, you say Wm was born in 1787, Chester County, PA? If so, have you checked the 1790 Chester census, to see if you can find him? He won't be enumerated by name, but sex and age, in the household of his father). I've never heard of the name Callam, in relation to a Chester cemetery, or in any other context......sorry. Sandra I am seeking information on Jacob Myers, born in Lancaster County, PA in 1758. Among other things, I am trying to confirm that he is the father of my GG grandfather, William Myers, as well as the name of Jacob's wife, and information on Jacob's parents. Here's what I have found so far. William was born about 1787 in Newlin Twp, Chester County. He was married 24 December 1812 in Chester County, to Alice Rebecca Ingram, who was born 3 January 1787 in Chester County. Both died in Edinburg, Ohio; William on 4 October 1858 and Alice on 1 May 1857. Other information I have on this Jacob Myers: He was married to Rebecca Ann Ent on 2 Oct 1782, in Philadelphia. In addition to a child named William, his other children included James, Peter, Lewis, John B., Ephnaur(sp?), Esso, Frederick, Rebecca and Lydice. He moved to Chester County at some point in time, but I do not know the year. I also have a reference to a Callam Cemetary. Is there such a cemetary in Chester County? > > Bob Myers > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribing..... To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to > PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in > the message or subject slot." > > > NO VIRUS WARNINGS - if you are concerned contact me PERSONALLY > ferg@ntelos.net > > Visit the archives for this list to view old postings > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=PA-OLD-CHESTER > > If you have ANY problems, do not send them to the list > contact me personally....list manager ferg@ntelos.net > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release Date: 7/10/2006 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release Date: 7/10/2006

It was not uncommon for women and children to go unnamed on a passenger list, so don't assume if you don't see them, that a man traveled sans family. They well might have accompanied him. Sandra "I just read the passenger list for the KENT which was posted by another lister. It contains only male names (except one servant woman). Does this mean that only men came over at that time, 1677, or were female passengers just not listed?" -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release Date: 7/10/2006

Many of the people who landed in the two locations on the NJ side of the Delaware --at Racoon Creek and at "Chygoes Island" (also known as Mattinikonck and as Jegou's island after Peter Jegou**), Burlington, soon had land surveyed and made their land purchases, records of which can be read online today. On the NJ-List is an ongoing transcription project, in which can be found the land transctions & locations of many of these folks from the Kent as well as from other ships which arrived from the 1670's onward. Just check the archives of the NJ-List for 2006. maybe the easiest way is to use the search function for the NJ-List --although one might have to play with the spelling of whatever name is wanted. http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=NJ Also note that occasionally in these archives of NJ are mentioned persons who lived on the west side of the Delaware, that is, the Pennsylvania-Delaware side. So do check just in case a bit of info on your early-arriving ancestor shows up in the NJ archives. We expect to be done with Vol I of the NJ Archives later this summer. A narrative account of some of these "Kent" passengers can be found in A.M Davis' _History of Bucks County, Pennsylvania_ which is online in the USgenweb archives: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/bucks/history/local/davis/davis02.txt The account here might not be especially useful for genealogical purposes, but does help locate many of the persons who came on the "Kent." Enjoy it. Liz J **[Peter Jegou ended up in Upland Court in 1679 in a dispute over an unlawful attempt at settlement of his portion of the island at Burlington by two early Quaker settlers, Thomas Wright and Godfrey Hancock. Peter Jegou lived at or owned land located in several different places in the Delaware River/Bay region. I have other notes on him, which I could probably make into something useful at some point. But if anyone is aware of a marriage, wife or family of Peter Jegou's, I would very much like to know about that, so please would you pass that along. --Thanks, ej]

This is what I have for the 1677 passage of the Kent. The KENT - 1677 Gregory Marlow, Master Departed England before May 1677 Arrived Raccoon Creek, New Jersey, 23 August 1677 The "Kent" loaded in London for New Jersey 19 to 31 March 1677. There followed loadings for other ports, but she sailed before May. She is said to have sailed first to New York, arriving either the 4th, 12th or 16th August 1677. Then after a short stay, she sailed across the bay to Perth Amboy, after which she headed south to the Delaware, landing first at the mouth of Raccoon Creek where she is said to have disembarked some 230 passengers of a total of 270. She then moved on to Chygoes Island, now Burlington. Other histories state that she landed at Raccoon Creek after an early June halt at New Castle, then to Burlington on 23 June. However, the arrival time in New York is known from the minutes of the New York government, with which the Commissioners (aboard the "Kent") met during their stay there. The Yorkshire purchasers settled the 1st tenth, from Assinpink to Rancocas. The London purchasers settled the 2nd tenth, from Rancocas to Timber Creek. Note: Many passengers alleged to have been aboard were from Yorkshire, Northamptonshire, and other northern counties. They probably loaded at a northern port, perhaps Hull or Liverpool, before the "Kent" arrived at London. This list is probably incomplete, and some passengers were possibly on other ships as noted. Jane Allin - servant of Christopher White and probably on the "Griffin" John Allin - servant of Edward Bradway and probably on the "Greyhound" Edward Bradway - with his family & servants was probably on the "Greyhound" on which he loaded goods after the "Kent" had departed Mary Bradway - wife of Edward Bradway Their children: William Bradway Mary Bradway Susannah Bradway Thomas Brinton - servant of Christopher White and probably on the "Griffin" Thomas Buckel - servant of Edward Bradway and probably on the "Greyhound" William Clayton John Cripps Richard Davis or Davies Morgan Drewett William Emery, Emley or Emlen Thomas Eves Thomas Farnsworth Thomas Foulke Richard Guy William Groom - servant of Edward Bradway and probably on the "Greyhound" Jonathan Habbuck Thomas Harding Joseph Helmsley William Hibbs - possibly on another ship Henry Jennings Margaret Jennings Samuel Lovett William Macklack _____ Marshall, a carpenter Thomas Nossiter Thomas Olive William Peachey John Penford William Penton William Perkins - died at sea and family Robert Powell Robert Power Mary Power - wife of Robert Power John Roberts Sarah Roberts - wife of John Roberts Christopher Saunders Benjamin Scott Robert or Benjamin Stacey Thomas Stokes Mary (Bernard) Stokes - wife of Thomas Stokes Their children: Sarah Stokes Henry Stokes John Stokes Mary Stokes Robert Wade - probably first been on the "Griffin" and returned as an agent for the colony Christopher White - with his family & servants he was probably on the "Griffin" which arrived in 1677 Esther White - wife of Christopher White Their children: John White Esther White Josias White Daniel Wills - physician Mary Wills - wife of Daniel Wills Their children: Elizabeth Wills Jane Wills John Wills Joseph Wills Daniel Wills Mary Wills Samuel Wills John Wilkinson - died at sea Jonathan Woodhouse William Woodmancy and family John Woolston

I am seeking information on Jacob Myers, born in Lancaster County, PA in 1758. Among other things, I am trying to confirm that he is the father of my GG grandfather, William Myers, as well as the name of Jacob's wife, and information on Jacob's parents. Here's what I have found so far. William was born about 1787 in Newlin Twp, Chester County. He was married 24 December 1812 in Chester County, to Alice Rebecca Ingram, who was born 3 January 1787 in Chester County. Both died in Edinburg, Ohio; William on 4 October 1858 and Alice on 1 May 1857. Other information I have on this Jacob Myers: He was married to Rebecca Ann Ent on 2 Oct 1782, in Philadelphia. In addition to a child named William, his other children included James, Peter, Lewis, John B., Ephnaur(sp?), Esso, Frederick, Rebecca and Lydice. He moved to Chester County at some point in time, but I do not know the year. I also have a reference to a Callam Cemetary. Is there such a cemetary in Chester County? Bob Myers

Your post takes Adam further back than any I have seen. My ancestor is my gggg-grandfather, Robert Andrew who appears in London Grove twp of Chester County as a wedding guest on 3m 25 1748, and again, with wife, Sarah, 18 12m 1756 at a different wedding. He and family were received on certificate at the New Garden MM 29 5 1762. They later removed to Fairfax MM (VA), then returned with a certificate to Warrington (PA) MM then soon removed to NC, where they remained. Robert died there in 1793. I wish I could help you with Adam. Andrew isn't such a common name.... and two families of that ilk in the same place at the same time is, well, unusual. You are welcome to any thing I have on Robert, his progeny, and his travels. I do have one question for you, however. You made a reference to Adam's name possibly being Mac Andrew. Do you have any reference to that name in any document? I have long thought that some Andrew people shortened their names to Mac Andrew instead of changing to the more common Andrews settled for Andrew. I know that the small distinction was strictly observed in my family. Cheers, Philip Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Werling" <werlinks@yahoo.com> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 8:53 AM Subject: [PaOldC] Adam Andrew - born 1760 > Inquiry: Searching for Adam Andrew (possibly MacAndrew or possibly > Andre) born in Chester County, PA - Feb. 12, 1760 - possibly Pikeland > Twp. I have his descendents, but am searching for his parents names, his > nationality and his siblings names. His wife was Catherine (unknown) and > their first children were baptized in East Vincent Reformed Church > starting in 1784. I have his Rev. War records. > > Ann Werling > > > --------------------------------- > New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save > big. > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribing.... To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to > PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in > the message or subject slot. > > > NO VIRUS WARNINGS - if you are concerned contact me PERSONALLY > ferg@ntelos.net > > please visit the Chester Co rootsweb site...it is full of area photos, > helpful URLs and lots of county information > http://www.pa-roots.com/~chester/ > > If you have ANY problems, do not send them to the list > contact me personally....list manager ferg@ntelos.net > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Does anyone out there have more information on John Veazey of New Garden, Chester Co., PA or Thomas Vezey of E. Notingham? The year would be ca 1766. I'm still stuck with my Vasey/Vaysey/Wasey etc. family in Bucks county, Samuel my 3G grandfather having been born ca 1808-1815 somewhere in PA. He does not show up clearly on the census until 1850.

I just read the passenger list for the KENT which was posted by another lister. It contains only male names (except one servant woman). Does this mean that only men came over at that time, 1677, or were female passengers just not listed? thanks, Janice

Source: Passengers and Ships Priot to 1684, Penn's Colony: Vol 1, by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., published in 1985 by the Welcome Society The Kent, Gregory Marlow, master loaded in London for New Jersey 19 March to 31 March 1677. The Kent sailed first to New York, May 1677 and arrived in New York in August, 1677. After a short stay, she headed south and landed at the mouth of the Raccoon Creek where 230 passengers disembarked and then traveled to Burlington NJ. Identified Passengers: William Clayton John Cripps Richard Davis or Davies Morgan Drewett William Emley Thomas Eves Thomas Foulke Thomas Farnsworth Jonathan Habbuck Thomas Harding Joseph Helmsley Henry Jennings Samuel Lovett _______ Marshall, a carpenter Thomas Nosster Thomas Olive William Peachey John Penton or Penford William Perkins, died aboard, and family Robert Powell Christopher Saunders Benjamin Scott Robert Stacey Robert Wade Christopher White with servants Jane Allin and Thomas Brinton Daniel Wills John Wilkinson, died aboard Jonathan Woodhouse William Woodmanson or Woodmancy and family John Woolston

Does anyone have the ship lists for the following Kent arrived 6-14-1677 Paradise arrived 3-7-1681 Lew Smedley

Jim....... There is a website called Riggtown that has compiled some of the deaths in Chester Co from 1893-1907. http://courses.wcupa.edu/jones/his480/deaths/rod-s.htm Here is their disclaimer: This file contains a portion of the information stored in the "Register of Deaths for Chester County," volumes 1-3 (1893-1907), located at the Chester County Archives in the Government Services Building, 601 Westtown Road, West Chester PA 19382. The complete set of 26 files represents about seven hundred hours of labor by West Chester University History students and their professor. Their file shows John SHEETZ, Phoenixville, widower, died 6/21/1896 of paralysis after 4 months, age 66. filed in Vol 1 p 237. Was his wife Mary E? There is also Mary E SHEETZ, female, age 59, married died 6/23/1893, Philadelphia, died very sudden in one day..Vol 1 p 228. You can request copies of the deaths certs from the above address. Also at this link, there is a marriage of a Henry W SHEETZ, Upper Uwchlan, on bottom right on 2/14/????, to a Mary E DEERY, dau of Jackson DEERY of Chester Springs. http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~scrapbook/data_pages/p004a.gif Hope this helps.... Diana in AL ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Cullen<mailto:jcullen@highstream.net> To: PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 6:52 PM Subject: John Scheetz -d. 6/27/1895 Most of my relatives remained in the Philadelphia area. I found a partial entry in a family bible that list John Scheetz who is a little bit of a mystery in that there is no record in Philly of his death or listing of his orbit. John SCHEETZ, died June 27, 1895 at age 67 I thought he might be from an outlying county and found an entry in the 1880 Census of Chester county, city of Charlestown, that seems to match his age, and the age of a son. I would like to see if anyone ran across a cemetery plot or orbit for this John Scheetz in Chester county. Thanks, Jim Cullen ______________________________

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Most of my relatives remained in the Philadelphia area. I found a partial entry in a family bible that list John Scheetz who is a little bit of a mystery in that there is no record in Philly of his death or listing of his orbit. John SCHEETZ, died June 27, 1895 at age 67 I thought he might be from an outlying county and found an entry in the 1880 Census of Chester county, city of Charlestown, that seems to match his age, and the age of a son. I would like to see if anyone ran across a cemetery plot or orbit for this John Scheetz in Chester county. Thanks, Jim Cullen

Back to School and Genealogy! Remember that New Years resolution you made to organize your genealogy notes, letters, e-mails, computer print outs, etc. Now is the time to buy the supplies. Over the next few month there will be many Back to School sales. You can use these items for organizing your genealogy records. Check your newspaper for sales and COUPONS. Example - WalMart right now has items on sale for 10, 20, 50 and 97 cents!! Stores have notebook paper, 3 ring binders, sheet protectors, spiral notebooks, calculators, file folders, etc on sale. Another good item is the kid's assignment calendars - these are great for keeping track of "TO DO" lists. You can find items now that are not available the rest of the year. Look for file boxes - not too large - ones you can easily carry around. If the price is right, you may be able to get one for each surname you are currently working on. Time to organize all that paper on the guest bed and dinning room table!! Take a trip to the store and see what may help solve some of your organizational problems. Set a timer for 10 to 15 minutes and use that time to file and organize your papers. You will be surprised how much filing you can get done in 15 minutes. If I only listened to my own advice!!! For important items use only acid free / archival quality products. You will find these items on sale over the next few months. Happy Hunting, Kathie Mirabella Macoupin County, IL Mail List Manager http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/macoupin.htm