There is, of course, the possibility that James' father is deceased in which case James might be living with someone else to learn a trade or __________??? Checking estates for Wm. Skiles & Rhoda Wilson and/or for Hopkins Skiles & Leticia Hoffman might provide at least a clue if not an answer. Anna

Sorry, The mother's name is RHODA, without that N, as I was thinking of my niece who is Rhonda !! On the 1860 census, Sadsbury Twp, Black Horse Post Office, is a JAMES T. SKILES living with another family, age 22, and other employed folks. The Jos. Mc Clelland family. He is shown as a Clerk. Tim R. ***** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Robinson" <trobinson42@comcast.net> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [PaOldC] 1850 Chester= SKILES, James > It appears to be William & Rhonda, and 6 sibling, with James at 14 yrs. of > age. >>From the 1850 census of West Caln Twp, Chester Co. Pa. they had 6 children > altogether. William was a Farmer., JAMES was born 1836. > William - age 45 > Rhonda - age 37 > James - age 14 > Sarah - age 12 > Susannah - age 11 > John - age 8 > Margaret - age 7 > Mary - age 6 mos. > > Tim R. > *****

RE: > we have PLENTY of folks who just > want YOU / US to do all their searching for them, and then credit > themselve's for putting it all together. ie - all those queries that > say > "tell me all you have on such and such" I have myself backed away > from these questions, and ask for something specific instead. And >I will admit to having reservations about posting or publishing any of my genealogical work to >the Internet. But you have to bring something to the party. I know it's easy to be concerned enough about privacy and security of your data, and I know the feeling that people are just asking others to do their work and I don't like to encourage it. But I generally find that when I help even if I can't see the relevant connections to me I find things that are very interesting and useful. Often I don't see how it's useful until days or months later. And some of the connections I've made offered payback to those who did share enough so that I could who their ancestors were. I found a graveyard listing on a web site this month that has ancestors from early 1800s by helping someone who asked me about some indirect connections to an ancestor of mine that is cited as a witness to a will of their ancestor in 1866. I almost ignored it because I felt too busy and they already had a lot more info about the people that they were looking for than I could find. But then I sent a tree and some info I had where my family had come from a nearby county and before that. They replied with links to some bios of my ancestor and his brother and father in some online books I hadn't seen yet and that led to a few more in the Historic Pittsburgh PA collection of books online <http://digital.library.pitt.edu/fulltext/>. There's clearly some marriages between a surname in my line that marries into two generations of my family and what looks like a sibling of a GILCHRIST from my tree line married into his family. By sharing info and asking for more on what they had I was pointed to a cemetery he said some of the folks on my tree were buried in. I checked and found comments on that cemetery page from someone who was a clearly related to the same ancestor as me about 6 generations back. I asked her what she had on that person and she was able to share some info from a hard to find 6 volume book on that CALHOUN line that added very well cited and documented research to add another 5 or 6 generations of history to that branch. Through the three way exchange this started we all came away with more than we started with. This week I am returning a bible from the 1770's to the a descendant of the owner, Frederick JORDAN b. 1740. My mother found this in an attic when was a child in the 1940's, on old Jordan farm, Walnut Hill, in Highspire, PA (Dauphin County). There is no connection to my Jordan line that we can find but I was able to identify the family because of shared trees and info online. It turns out it belonged to the great grandfather of famous historian and genealogist John Wolf Jordan. Mr. Jordan worked for the Historical Society of PA and wrote many books about PA. Through research shared online I was able to identify someone who is a great granddaughter of John Wolf Jordan. The bible is going home to the family after apparently parting with it after the death of someone around 1820. Even though the last two generations were privatized I was able to tell that a certain tree had to be from someone from that line and contacted her via email and offered to return the bible to her family. She's thrilled. We can't tell if or lines are related but if they are it predates 1740 by a generation or more. I just wanted to share that to offer a good example of why publishing your family info online can help connect more than just data. I've tracked down other distant cousins to offer them photographs of mutual ancestors born in the early 1800's. My grandfather tried to throw these photos away after his wife died and my sister pulled them out of the trash. I've shared them with descendants of 3 siblings of my grandmother's great grandmother so they could see the parents of both sides of that family and the group and single portraits in an old photo album.

Mal, Ann, a very distant cousin-by-marriage (is there such a thing?), well, her daughter married a distant Carrel cousin, and spent her retirement years (she is nearly 100 years old now) in the libraries searching for the family of origin of my Carrel ancestor. She failed because the LDS data base she worked with had him born in Massachusetts in 1805 when in reality he was born in western Pennsylvania in 1806. The submitter of the false data to LDS had simply assumed he was born in the same place and at the same time as his wife. NOT! They actually met in Licking County, Ohio in 1826 and married there. Her family had moved from Massachusetts to Ohio when she was a little girl. Poor Ann had wasted thirty years of research in Massachusetts. That false data still indelibly exists in the LDS data base - the one that is submitted by individuals, not the microfilmed documents. Point is that when personally researched family trees are posted on the Internet, appropriated by Ancestry.com, etc., and burned into CDs for sale they become as if sacred writings, even if full of errors, without the possibility of correction as new data is discovered. Folks who willy-nilly merge undocumented family trees into their GEDCOM files are guilty not only of plagiarism but of unknowingly propagating errors. RootsWeb now has the post-em notes, but that's a feeble remedy. Now believe it or not, we have the opposite problem in the new world of Y-DNA testing for genealogy - genetic genealogy. There are surname projects such as for surname Carroll. Participation consists of submitting a DNA sample to a lab, and then posting the results in a data base along with your lineage. But what seems to be happening is that folks submit their DNA results but not their lineage. That subverts the whole concept of finding lost relatives through genetic genealogy. But that is a topic for another mailing list. I say input your family tree to the Internet, but don't download others with tenuous connections to yours, just to make your tree seem bigger than it actually is. Sure, I can prove I am a second cousin to Abraham Lincoln, five times removed, but I would not think of merging his tree into mine, except for our ancestor-in-common. Eric > [Original Message] > From: Mal Humes <mal3@mal.net> > To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 9/30/2006 7:33:18 AM > Subject: Re: [PaOldC] off the subject......sort of > > RE: > > we have PLENTY of folks who just > > want YOU / US to do all their searching for them, and then credit > > themselve's for putting it all together. ie - all those queries that > > say > > "tell me all you have on such and such" I have myself backed away > > from these questions, and ask for something specific instead. > > And > > >I will admit to having reservations about posting or publishing any of my > genealogical work to >the Internet. But you have to bring something to the > party. > > I know it's easy to be concerned enough about privacy and security of your > data, and I know the feeling that people are just asking others to do their > work and I don't like to encourage it. But I generally find that when I help > even if I can't see the relevant connections to me I find things that are > very interesting and useful. Often I don't see how it's useful until days or > months later. And some of the connections I've made offered payback to those > who did share enough so that I could who their ancestors were. > > I found a graveyard listing on a web site this month that has ancestors from > early 1800s by helping someone who asked me about some indirect connections > to an ancestor of mine that is cited as a witness to a will of their > ancestor in 1866. I almost ignored it because I felt too busy and they > already had a lot more info about the people that they were looking for than > I could find. But then I sent a tree and some info I had where my family had > come from a nearby county and before that. > > They replied with links to some bios of my ancestor and his brother and > father in some online books I hadn't seen yet and that led to a few more in > the Historic Pittsburgh PA collection of books online > <http://digital.library.pitt.edu/fulltext/>. There's clearly some marriages > between a surname in my line that marries into two generations of my family > and what looks like a sibling of a GILCHRIST from my tree line married into > his family. > > By sharing info and asking for more on what they had I was pointed to a > cemetery he said some of the folks on my tree were buried in. I checked and > found comments on that cemetery page from someone who was a clearly related > to the same ancestor as me about 6 generations back. I asked her what she > had on that person and she was able to share some info from a hard to find 6 > volume book on that CALHOUN line that added very well cited and documented > research to add another 5 or 6 generations of history to that branch. > Through the three way exchange this started we all came away with more than > we started with. > > This week I am returning a bible from the 1770's to the a descendant of the > owner, Frederick JORDAN b. 1740. My mother found this in an attic when was a > child in the 1940's, on old Jordan farm, Walnut Hill, in Highspire, PA > (Dauphin County). There is no connection to my Jordan line that we can find > but I was able to identify the family because of shared trees and info > online. It turns out it belonged to the great grandfather of famous > historian and genealogist John Wolf Jordan. Mr. Jordan worked for the > Historical Society of PA and wrote many books about PA. > > Through research shared online I was able to identify someone who is a great > granddaughter of John Wolf Jordan. The bible is going home to the family > after apparently parting with it after the death of someone around 1820. > Even though the last two generations were privatized I was able to tell that > a certain tree had to be from someone from that line and contacted her via > email and offered to return the bible to her family. She's thrilled. We > can't tell if or lines are related but if they are it predates 1740 by a > generation or more. > > I just wanted to share that to offer a good example of why publishing your > family info online can help connect more than just data. I've tracked down > other distant cousins to offer them photographs of mutual ancestors born in > the early 1800's. My grandfather tried to throw these photos away after his > wife died and my sister pulled them out of the trash. I've shared them with > descendants of 3 siblings of my grandmother's great grandmother so they > could see the parents of both sides of that family and the group and single > portraits in an old photo album. > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, please send the one word message, unsubscribe, to > pa-old-chester-request@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It appears to be William & Rhonda, and 6 sibling, with James at 14 yrs. of age. >From the 1850 census of West Caln Twp, Chester Co. Pa. they had 6 children altogether. William was a Farmer., JAMES was born 1836. William - age 45 Rhonda - age 37 James - age 14 Sarah - age 12 Susannah - age 11 John - age 8 Margaret - age 7 Mary - age 6 mos. Tim R. ***** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@ntelos.net> To: "PAUL A HEUING" <p.heuing@sbcglobal.net> Cc: <pa-old-chester-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 9:15 AM Subject: [PaOldC] 1850 Chester Co., PA census > James should appear, by name, in the household of his parents, in the > 1850 census......have you looked there for his parents' names? ...whereas, > in the 1840 he will just be enumerated buy sex and age....... All census > are 'rentable' for about $3.50/month, at all and any LDS Family History > Center. > > > Need to determine who were the parents of > > James Thompson Skiles > born:1836-Chester Co., PA > > its either: > Wm. Skiles & Rhoda Wilson > or > Hopkins Skiles & Leticia Hoffman > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/458 - Release Date: 9/27/2006 > To unsubscribe from this list, please send the one word message, > unsubscribe, to > pa-old-chester-request@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release Date: 9/29/2006 > >

James should appear, by name, in the household of his parents, in the 1850 census......have you looked there for his parents' names? ...whereas, in the 1840 he will just be enumerated buy sex and age....... All census are 'rentable' for about $3.50/month, at all and any LDS Family History Center. Need to determine who were the parents of James Thompson Skiles born:1836-Chester Co., PA its either: Wm. Skiles & Rhoda Wilson or Hopkins Skiles & Leticia Hoffman No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/458 - Release Date: 9/27/2006

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I will admit to having reservations about posting or publishing any of my genealogical work to the Internet. But you have to bring something to the party. This arises in part because of incorrect family data submitted to FHL/LDS in the 1960's by a certain gentleman. It has caused no end of mischief to our Carrel researchers. But mostly, because genealogical data is often subject to amendment as newer data is uncovered. There may be a way to revise data submitted to LDS 50 years ago, but I certainly don't what it is. With that and other issues in mind, I reluctantly submitted my GEDCOM file to RootsWeb.com. several years ago, believing their statement that it would remain under my control, even to the point of deleting it altogether. Also I could revise it as needed. I did take the extra precaution offered which was to make the GEDCOM not downloadable. To my knowledge no person have been able to download the whole thing, a modest 2000 names that I have directly researched.. Good for RootsWeb! My purpose was and is to allow unknown cousins, etc., a way to contact me. Bait on the hook, so to speak. And that was very successful and may continue to be so. Then I started seeing entries at the WorldConnect Project of these huge GEDCOMs of over 20,000 names, etc., which included parts of my GEDCOM file. Call me paranoid, but I did insert a false datum in my submitted family tree. I invented a husband for a great grand aunt, whose real husband's name I did not know. It is an old trick employed by publishers of maps., etc., to protect their intellectual property. But so what, I'll know who incorporated it into their own bloated GEDCOM files, but nothing I can do about it. That's life in the genealogical world where we deal with public records... Now if I were to write a history, as Sandra has, I would be extremely pissed-off if someone posted or published it as their own research, without attribution. Eric Olson Seattle ericbear01@earthlink.net Eight nickels makes 2 paradigms.

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No...that isn't the case here. These are tax records, compiled and written by a single tax clerk...and as such, aren't signed in any way by the folks whose names appear on the list. What you're referring to is when a person is illiterate, and he 'makes his mark', by his name as written by someone else...... generally these have the words His and Mark printed over and under that mark. S. The "X" meant that the person made his mark because he was illiterate and then the clerk wrote the name in. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/458 - Release Date: 9/27/2006

David Loyd Esq John Baldwin John Salkeld Caleb Cawpland, Esq John Owen, Esq John Wade Jacob Howel Ruth Hosskins Ralph Pyle John Mather James Mather Thomas Haywood Joseph Hoskins Joseph Reyneer George Asbridg John Wharton James Barber William Trehown (?) Thomas Gifting Thomas Morgan James Trego Richard Barry Robert Wilson William Mullin Samuel Grey Joshua Cowpland William Cowpland Joseph Barker Jacob Roman Samuel Lightfoot Erasmus Morton Humphry Johnson Richard Weaver Henry Munday Jeremiah Carter Edward Carter Richard Ireson Nathaniel King Caleb Harrison Robert Squibb Thomas Coebourn William Coebourn William Jefferies Stephen Cole ....Nathaniel Picket... this name has a line drawn through it Henry (?)izaehary Nathan Woroly George Limpson John Tomkins John Oliver John Scarlet Abraham Barton Benjamin Weldon William Preston Philip Yarnal William Pennel John Worral Freemen; (unmarried men who live in twp but don't own land) Isaac Lindon John Walker David Cowpland Awbery Bevan Thomas Lestrange Richard Magee William Ives Jeremiah Clemins Anthonye Shaw Thomas Pearson XXX (X after some names, for unknown reason) John Lea -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/458 - Release Date: 9/27/2006

Compliments of the Anaheim CA Senior Citizens Club: Did you know............. If a statue in the park of a person on a horse has both front legs in the air, the person died in battle. If the horse has one front leg in the air, the person died as a result of wounds received in battle. If the horse has all four legs on the ground, the person died of natural causes. Jean in CA

I would not place errors in my work....I understand the concept, but it just seems to me that it will create even MORE mistakes to be passed around and accepted as fact.....and God knows, there are MORE than enough of those !!! I DO remember once reading through someone's files and finding very obvious mistakes, like Superman, Elvis Presley,etc...things that I wouldn't think could possibly be taken seriously - at the time it never occurred to me that this was done for the given reasons, and I simply thought to myself, "what a crazy person THIS is"...and, it immediately made me 'question' everything else in the files...duh!. (my favorite ''mistake' is the many people who are listed with the surname Unk.....they have been taken from someone's work...the original writer used the initials Unk to indicate an unknown surname.... someone else 'found' it on the internet somewhere and mistakenly interpreted it as a surname of Unk....put it in their files....and off it went, just ANOTHER mistake, probably being perpetuated to this day! (if you doubt this, or that ANYONE could be that silly, do some google searches for the surname Unk....there are a TON of them out there....there is even a section of the genforum for those RESEARCHING the Unk surname.....how many folks do you figure are REALLY named Unk? I was surfing the forum and found someone who actually believed she has an ancestor with the surname NmMdUnk.....to me this says that some other researcher listed her as Married, Name Unknown.......but to her, it's her ancestor Rachel NmMdUnk! S. " I also add a few choice errors in my things just to make sure, so I can track it down." -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/458 - Release Date: 9/27/2006

(by the way, I am transcribing these from copies of the original document, kindly supplied by a list member.....and, realize that some of the spellings may not be the same as they appear elsewhere or that you, as a descendant, may perceive them to be. However, I can't change the spelling to something an individual feels is 'correct'......if I did that it wouldn't be a transcription, which is, by definition, "a copy of what has been written." So, I simply record here my best impression of what is on the original document....thus, there is no use to email me your 'corrections'!) To those of you who have been so kind as to offer to transcribe other of these tax lists........I haven't forgotten you....but, my husband has to move his accumulation of 30 years ofoffice 'stuff', into a new office, and this, coupled with many new responsibilities, will keep him from making the tax rate copies we spoke of right now. So, continue being patient, and hopefully he'll get to a 'place' where he has the time to make the copies for us! S. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/458 - Release Date: 9/27/2006

I agree that sources should be properly cited, and that plagarism is stealing. I found this suggestion very sensible: > If you wish to be acknowledged for providing info, assistance, etc... Perhaps you could include, as a signature, just how you would like to have this acknowledgement appear. But I wonder where the "genealogical ethics" are in this practice, which I have heard one other time before reading it here: > I also add a few choice errors in my things just to make sure, so I can track it down. I dunnow... maybe this is a different kind of "wrong" but I'm not sure how this practice could ever be right. Best wishes to all, Liz J

William Moore Emanuel Jones John Reece Evan David George Lewis Mathias Martin Thomas John John David John Evan Stephen Lewis David John James Anderson Grifith Thomas John Jones David Mathias Cadwallader Hughs William John John Evan Robert Phillip Lewellin David David Grifith Reece John Grifith Pritchard Daniel Howel Lewis Martin David Gibb Morgan Humphry James John Thomas David Stephen David John Lewis David Humphry John Thomas Rowland Pritchard Moses Coats Christian Mare John Bowphwalder Phillip John David Reece James Davis XXXX (I don't know what the XX signify, but only that the appear after a few of the names) (as an aside, this certainly shows that, at least in 1729, the VAST majority of tax payers in Charlestown were Welshmen.... just LOOK at all those given 'type' names as surnames, a sure sign of the Welsh patronymic naming system.) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/458 - Release Date: 9/27/2006

Greetings Everyone: My name is Anita Wills, and I am a Native Pennsylvanian. I was born in Chester County, Coatesville, and also lived in Reading. I now reside in Northern California, but travel back east several times a year. Many of my relatives continue to live in the area, and I also have friends there. I am the author of a book, Notes And Documents of Free Persons of Color, and the first chapter details my families Pennsylvania History. My Grandfather Martin, and his people were inhabitants of the Welsh Mountains for many generations. His father, William Martin, was an employee of William Darlington for many years. Several of my ancestors were involved with the Underground Railroad, and several were involved in the Christiana Resistance. I have two Great Grandfathers, Uriah Martin and Henry Green who fought in the Civil War out of Pennsylvania. My family history goes back quite a few generations in Chester and Lancaster County. I was able to trace my ancestors through Census records, Wills, deeds, and other documents. The Church of Christ in Erculdon, was built by my Great Grandfather, Samuel Ruth. He settled in Chester County after the Civil War, and eventually married Louisa Pinn. Samuel was a slave who was brought North by the 54th Massachusetts, and left with the Pinn family. My Great Aunt Ida Ruth Jones, has a Highway Marker in Erculdon, near her home. Another son, Chester Ruth will be honored on October 21st, with another Highway Marker. Ida Jones was a Painter, an artist, and many prominent Chester County residents purchased her paintings. Chester Ruth was an inventor, whose inventions include the Draper Elevator, a bombsite (for the US government), a part for an Airplane (for the US Government), and a part for the Trident Missle (for the US Government). Uncle Chester had a machine shop on Lincoln Highway for many years, and that is where the ceremony for his marker will take place. I am proud of the achievements of my family, and that I was able to document it. My book is in many of the libraries in South Eastern Pennsylvania, and is also at the Pennsylvania State Library. I believe the Chester County Historical Society has a copy as well. I look forward to exchanging information with everyone. Anita Wills BARNES & NOBLE ONLINE PURCHASE - NOTES AND DOCUMENTS OF FREE PERSONS OF COLOR: http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=9v5Ox3pAni&isbn=1411603338&itm=1 Purchase Site for Tape of Anita Wills on Book TV: http://www.c-spanstore.org/shop/index.php?main_page=product_video_info&products_id=188914-1 I want to know what sustains you from the inside when all else falls away. ~ Oriah Mountain Dreamer~ CREE INDIAN PROPHECY: ONLY AFTER THE LAST TREE HAS BEEN CUT DOWN, ONLY AFTER THE LAST RIVER HAS BEEN POISONED, ONLY AFTER THE LAST FISH HAS BEEN CAUGHT, ONLY THEN WILL YOU FIND THAT MONEY CANNOT BE EATEN.

Sandra, I understand how you feel and totally agree with you about people asking permission and giving full credit before they "appropriate" someone else's work. As a librarian and a writer I know the many tedious hours spent doing research; the creative process involved in writing a history. I must tell you, and the list, that I consider you a "mentor" to me, since I have learned more about genealogy, history, research and process than from anyone else, just from being on this wonderful list of yours for the past few years. I really appreciate how much time you spend sharing and educating with this list, and you are a role model for what genealogy should be, in my opinion. Margaret Harmon-Myers

Sandra, I certainly agree with all you have written on this subject. I have to say that I am eternally grateful to some of the researchers who have provided detailed family history that includes mine. I have experienced overwhelming generosity from a good many "genealogists".Your contributions to this list are appreciated more than you will evern know. That being said, I would gladly hand over my research in some cases to a fledgling relative who might be able to provide one lead that got me over a brick wall whether I was acknowledged or not!! Sometimes, those folks who might not have much to contribute, eventually provide a gem!! So ...I try and keep a positive attitude about the whole thing. Regards, Bev W.