For general info on William Smiths in the area, this one made his Will on 4 Mar 1747/8 in Lancaster Co., PA. His Will directed his body be buried in the Hempfield burying ground. He left his three brothers James, Jacob and Phillip Smith a 465 acre tract of land in Virginia. Also directed that his 2 horses and one mare be sold and the profits be divided between his 3 brothers and they they pay his sister Hannah Hickinbotham twenty pounds in lawful money of Virginia. Will was witnessed by John and James Wright and proved on 16 June 1748. The Hannah Hickinbotham is believed to be the Hannah who was married to Joseph Higginbotham of Amherst Co., VA, particularly because records of Amherst Co. show a close association between a Phillip and James Smith of Amherst Co. and the Higginbothams there. Chandler Eavenson Sautee-Nacoochee, GA -----Original Message----- From: pa-old-chester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pa-old-chester-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of gjsmith58@comcast.net Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 6:00 PM To: PA-OLD-CHESTER-D@rootsweb.com Subject: [PaOldC] Who would I contact? Would anyone know who I would contact for further information on William Smith who lived in Sadsbury Township, in 1716 - 1727? Chester or Lancaster County? Or ? Judy Smith/Colorado -- "Imagine" - John Lennon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

( I sent Judy a few Wills with SMITH names to get her started, so anyone else may chime in anytime. Tim R.) Thank You for sending those........... I am searching for a William Smith, probably with son's: John, George and William, possibly Ephraim or some connection. The only data I have as proof is that a William Smith took a licensure for 100 acres in 1734, York County, PA. I think that area was still Chester County at that time?? Then in 1753, John Smith owned land in north Huntington Township of York County, 50 acres, and land in Tyrone Township. A William Smith owned land next to him, but it was more like 200 a., and a George Smith also bought land in the same area of Huntington Township, about 100 acres. Son's: John Smith married a Margaret, possibly Ramsay, and William married an Elizabeth {unknown}. John Smith, according to his will, had sons George, John and Hugh, daughters Elizabeth and Eleanor. William and Elizabeth had sons: James, George and William, daughter Elinor, according to his probate. Hugh Smith is my husband's direct ancestor. But I am trying to find the parents, of William, John, George and possibly Ephraim. The reason I mention Ephraim, is although he is not named in either will or probate above, his name has passed down through the Smith family, beginning with Hugh, and until around the year 1870. It is a puzzle, how to seperate these Smith families, and how to find who belonged to whom, plus the parentage. I would appreciate any ideas you would have on finding any of the above. Oh, John and William both died in the late 1700's, their sons inherited their lands, and then it became Adams County. I am looking previous to 1753. P.S. The names of William, George and James are carried down to this day in the Smith family! Thank You, Judy Smith / Colorado > gjsmith58@comcast.net <

This may be of some help. Nathaniel Twining b. 3.27.1689 d. 1753 married 9.23.1723 Sarah Kirk b. 12.23.1698 d. ? Nathaniel Twining's parents were Stephen Twining and Abigail Young Sarah Kirk's parents were John Kirk and Joan Elliott. Nathaniel and Sarah may be the parents of your Nathaniel. Right age. I have a lot of Eavenson's, but no Aaron. Barclay

I'm also one of the unfortunates looking for Smiths. My Evans Smith was born 1830 and married Carrie JOHNSON. How's that for looking for a needle in a haystack! I've done well with his son Harry/Henry, but going back has been a real problem for me for years! Some of the names that married into our Smiths are FARRA, CHATTIN, FRIEL, etc. They lived in Willistown, so at least I have that to work with! Ah, but that's only one line of Smiths that I have! I've got Smiths marrying Smiths, my grandfather married a Smith, and his mother married a Smith, after her husband deserted her! Lorraine

There really is no answer to this question, as there is no individual in 'charge' of Smiths! Only kidding (and sure wish there were!!! I have Smiths and they are the very devil to research!) By saying he was in Chester, Lancaster, or ?, does this mean that you don't know that he was in Chester? The idea of these lists is to 'band together' folks who are all researching the same area, in the hopes that our families and data will sort of overlap, and we will be able to help our eachother. Thus, perhaps the correct answer to your question is, you needed to contact us, hoping that someone on this list could help you. However, you have given us scant information to work on....with a name like Smith, we need as much info as you can give us...such as, who he was married to, when he died, the names of his children, etc., and even how you knew him to be in Sadsbury at those times mentioned. (There are a blue million wills for Wm Smiths, but with a date, a wife's name, names of children, we'd have a better shot at finding him ...with a wife's name we could maybe trace him through HER maiden name......with his son's names we could look for parents for HIM, using his children's names as possibles....see what I mean?) All those things would be helpful in locating him. You also need to say what it is you're looking for....his parents? where he died? All these elements are important in ANY query, but essential in the researching of such a common name as Smith. I did some reading and it is thought that there were as many as 10 completely different William Smiths in early Chester County, so the task becomes, not only to find William Smiths, but to determine if the William Smith you find is YOUR William Smith. (There was even a Wm Smith aboard the Welcome, but it is felt that he died sometime before the 8th MO, 1702.) If your Wm Smith was married to a daughter of Thomas Croasdale, then he arrived as the servant of Richard Townsend - (thus the importance of a wife's name) I looked under Sadsbury, and find that a Wm Smith is included on the 1718 tax list, and in 1720, Wm Smith was the township official. " Would anyone know who I would contact for further information on William Smith who lived in Sadsbury Township, in 1716 - 1727? Chester or Lancaster County? Or ? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/492 - Release Date: 10/23/2006

My JAMES family comes from Old Chester county (where they lived became Delaware county). Through the Y-DNA surname project for JAMES, we have learned there were several distinct JAMES families living close to each other, sometimes even members of the same church/meetinghouse, yet not related at all through the JAMES line. Here is the website www.jamesdna.net I would urge any male with the surname of JAMES to participate. My dad did, and the DNA project has really cleared up a lot of questions for me as to which JAMES families belonged to my line, and which did not!! No amount of standard genealogical research was able to help me with that problem; it took genetic genealogy to do it. If you go to http://www.familytreedna.com/default.asp you can look up any surname and see if there is a project already established. Susan >Message: 8 >Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 18:55:15 -0400 >From: "E Johnson" <iris.gates@gmail.com> >Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Why test Y? >To: PA-OLD-CHESTER@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: > <70541d1e0610231555r6f21c8ap69054073dc440287@ma il.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > >Once more to make it clear about X, Y, and mitochondrial DNA: > >The father of a son passes on a copy of his only Y Chromosome, and his >mother passes on a copy of one of her two X Chromosomes, to their son. > >The father of a daughter passes on a copy of his only X Chromosome, >and her mother passes on a copy of one of her two X Chromosomes, to >their daughter. > >But almost 100% of our mitochondrial DNA comes from the mother alone. >Here is how that happens: > >"In mammals, 99.99% of mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) is inherited from the >mother. This is because the sperm [of the male parent] carries its >mitochondria around a portion of its tail and has only about 100 >mitochondria compared to 100,000 in the oocyte [egg of the female >parent]." > >The above quote [with my insertions] from 1998 Gwen V. Childs, Ph.D. >"The Mitochondrial Life cycle", located on a page of The University of >Texas Medical Branch website. > >So, mtDNA can carry the genetic signature of either of the two X >chromosomes which a child would inherit from his or her mother. > > >That's whY, and now... > >on to the neXt > >Liz J >

Yes, I think the Aaron, Jr. in the 1790 census is the one who married Priscilla Twining. I do not have a birthdate on Aaron, Jr. but Priscilla was born 1757. I have been unable to find an earlier Aaron in Chester Co. Priscilla's father was Nathaniel Twining, born 26 Jan 1730, according to a descendant. Thanks. Chandler Eavenson -----Original Message----- From: pa-old-chester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pa-old-chester-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of ltguidetti Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 5:31 PM To: pa-old-chester@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Aaron Eavenson, died 1822 There is an Aaron Eavenson, Jr. in the 1790 census in Goshen Township, with what looks to be 2 more males and 3 females in his family. Could your Aaron possibly be a Jr.? Lynn ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Would anyone know who I would contact for further information on William Smith who lived in Sadsbury Township, in 1716 - 1727? Chester or Lancaster County? Or ? Judy Smith/Colorado -- "Imagine" - John Lennon

All of Sadsbury was in Chester County during those years as Lancaster County was not yet formed. Chester County tax, land[deeds], or church records might shed some light.

Did any of the male WOODWARD descendents meander down to Berks Co? I have a Lewis WOODWARD died 4/29/1881, age 73/3/20, who married 1) Hannah KERST, 2/18/1815-1/24/1867. His birth would be 1/9/1808 based on his tombstone age at death. They lived in Geigertown, in Robeson Twp in Berks Co and are buried at St James Evang. Lutheran Cemetery in Geigertown. They had 10 children. Hannah KERST was dau of Samuel KERST and Elizabeth ZERR. Samuel KERST was a brother of my gr3grandfather Jacob KERST, who were sons of George KERST and Elizabeth GELBACH of Union Twp., my gr4. After Hannah died, Lewis remarried 2) Sariah KENNEY who is also buried at St James Lutheran in Geigertown - 10/6/1810-10/6/1889. No children from this second marriage. Does anyone know who parents of Lewis WOODWARD were? Descendants of Lewis Woodward 1 [1] Lewis Woodward b: 09 Jan 1808 in PA d: 29 Apr 1881 in Robeson Twp., Berks Co., PA Burial: St. James Lutheran Cemetery, Geigertown, Berks Co., PA; aged 73y3m20days; based on cemetery stone Source: National Genealogical Society Quarterly, 6/1923, Inscriptions from Old Forrest Church and Lutheran Church Cemeteries, by Mary O Steinmetz, Reading, PA + Hannah Kerst b: 18 Feb 1815 in Berks Co PA Baptism: 02 Jul 1815 St Gabriel's by Rev. Levi Bull, sp: the parents m: Abt. 1836 in Berks Co PA d: 24 Jan 1867 in Berks Co PA Burial: St James Lutheran Church, Geigertown, Berks Co PA; stone shows age 52y 1m 6days ...... 2 Sarah Elizabeth Woodward b: 09 Jan 1837 in Robeson Twp., Berks Co PA d: 19 Jan 1876 in Caernarvon, Berks Co PA Burial: Harmony Church, Joanna, Berks Co PA .......... + Allison Fosnocht b: 01 Jun 1836 in Caernarvon, Berks Co PA m: 07 Nov 1861 in Birdsboro, Berks Co PA d: 28 Oct 1914 in Caernarvon, Berks Co PA ...... 2 Samuel Kerst Woodward b: 13 Apr 1838 in Robeson Twp., Berks Co PA d: 08 May 1857 in aged 19 y 26d Burial: St. James Lutheran Cemetery, Geigertown, Berks Co., PA; age 19y26d ...... 2 Thomas M Woodward b: 10 Oct 1839 in Robeson Twp., Berks Co PA d: 02 Apr 1910 in Berks Co PA Burial: St James Evangelical Lutheran Cemetery, Geigertown, Berks Co PA .......... + Caroline b: 04 Mar 1844 d: 09 Nov 1920 in Berks CO PA Burial: St James Evangelical Lutheran Cemetery, Geigertown, Berks Co PA ...... 2 Evan E Woodward b: Abt. 1845 in Robeson Twp., Berks Co PA .......... + Barbara A ...... 2 Lewis M Woodward b: 1847 in Robeson Twp., Berks Co PA d: 1909 in Berks Co PA Burial: Harmony ME Cemetery, Berks Co PA ...... 2 Benjamin Franklin Woodward b: 12 Jul 1849 in Robeson Twp., Berks Co PA d: 01 Jun 1857 in Robeson, Berks Co PA age41y4m3d Burial: St. James Lutheran Cemetery, Geigertown, Berks Co., PA; age 7y 10m20days ...... 2 Clara Woodward b: 1850 in Robeson Twp., Berks Co PA d: 1932 in Robeson Twp., Berks Co PA Burial: St James Cemetery, Geigertown, Berks Co, PA .......... + Frederick M Geiger b: 1843 d: 1925 in Robeson Twp., Berks Co PA Burial: St James Cemetery, Geigertown, Berks Co, PA ...... 2 Mary Frances Woodward b: 20 Jun 1852 in Robeson Twp., Berks Co PA d: 01 Oct 1856 in aged 4y,3m,11d Burial: St. James Lutheran Cemetery, Geigertown, Berks Co., PA Source: National Genealogical Society Quarterly, 6/1923, Inscriptions from Old Forrest Church and Lutheran Church Cemeteries, by Mary O Steinmetz, Reading, PA ...... 2 John H Woodward b: 13 Aug 1854 in Robeson Twp., Berks Co PA d: 16 Dec 1895 in Robeson, Berks Co PA age41y4m3d Burial: St. James Lutheran Cemetery, Geigertown, Berks Co., PA ...... 2 William Jones Woodward b: 23 Mar 1856 in Robeson Twp., Berks Co PA d: 10 Mar 1857 in Robeson, Berks Co PA aged 11m 27d Burial: St. James Lutheran Cemetery, Geigertown, Berks Co., PA *2nd Wife of [1] Lewis Woodward: + Sariah Kenney b: 06 Oct 1810 in PA m: Aft. 1867 d: 06 Oct 1889 in Robeson Twp., Berks Co., PA Burial: St. James Lutheran Cemetery, Geigertown, Berks Co., PA Diana in AL

Once more to make it clear about X, Y, and mitochondrial DNA: The father of a son passes on a copy of his only Y Chromosome, and his mother passes on a copy of one of her two X Chromosomes, to their son. The father of a daughter passes on a copy of his only X Chromosome, and her mother passes on a copy of one of her two X Chromosomes, to their daughter. But almost 100% of our mitochondrial DNA comes from the mother alone. Here is how that happens: "In mammals, 99.99% of mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) is inherited from the mother. This is because the sperm [of the male parent] carries its mitochondria around a portion of its tail and has only about 100 mitochondria compared to 100,000 in the oocyte [egg of the female parent]." The above quote [with my insertions] from 1998 Gwen V. Childs, Ph.D. "The Mitochondrial Life cycle", located on a page of The University of Texas Medical Branch website. So, mtDNA can carry the genetic signature of either of the two X chromosomes which a child would inherit from his or her mother. That's whY, and now... on to the neXt Liz J

There is an Aaron Eavenson, Jr. in the 1790 census in Goshen Township, with what looks to be 2 more males and 3 females in his family. Could your Aaron possibly be a Jr.? Lynn

Whoa again... Note that in my first statement, I did not say anything at all about mtDNA. My comments had concerned the reasons why X DNA is not easy or efficient to use in genealogical testing, when one wants to learn about a specific lineage. I had already read the info at the "tutorial" --which is a brief one-page explanation on the familytreedna website. I went back again to see it. But the info on that page might be a little confusing. This statement is right: > The Father of passes on a Y Chromosome to his son, and the mother passes on > an X Chromosome to her son. But this statement here is incorrect: > The two X Chromosomes that are received by the daughter only come from her > mother, not from the father. No, Not logical... Not. For now, try this very brief explanation: People receive one X chromosome from their mothers, and one X or Y chromosome from their fathers --that is, they receive one from each parent. X and Y DNA are contained inside the nuclei of cells. We test YDNA to establish who the father(s) were. We could test X DNA to find something about a person's parent, but if we test X DNA of a female, we would not know if that X DNA had come from her mother or from her father. So we don't test X DNA. We do test mitochondrial DNA, which is different material altogether. This DNA material is contained outside of the nuclei of our cells --in the cells themselves, but not within the cell nucleus. This material, mtDNA, supposedly comes only from the mother --although the suggested website does not state how that can be. (can someone explain that one??) Again: mtDNA is not the same as the DNA from an X chromosome. Mitochondrial DNA is used in genealogical research, but in a very different way: We test mtDNA in order to help determine a person's ethnic heritage. But this test does not not necessarily determine who the person's parents had been. It is a much more general test. If further clarification is wanted, I recommend that people read further, and preferably that they read beyond the statements made on only one website. Thanks again, Liz J

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Looking on CD's of Pa, Vital records, and Colonial Genealogical records, there were no entires for an Aaron or Pricilla (Twilling) Eavenson, however in that time period in Chester County was an entry for the GILPIN family history, with a daughter ALICE, b. 10mo. (Dec) 7, 1714, mar. 2mo (April) 11, 1739, RICHARD EAVENSON, s/o RICHARD & JEMEMA (NEWLIN) EAVENSON, of Thornberry, Chester County, and settled at Goshen, their children were: ESTHER, ENOCH, HANNAH, THOMAS and ISAAC. [ CD 512; Genealogical Records of Pa. Colonial 1600's - 1800's; pg. 427 ) Tim R. ***** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@ntelos.net> To: "Chandler Eavenson" <yonahdells@alltel.net>; <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Aaron Eavenson, died 1822 I checked the CD of PA wills, but no mention of Aaron Eavenson..I was hoping to find him in the will of a parent. Are there other spellings I should look for? There are a good many Eavensons in the index of F&C, but no Aaron. Sandra " Does anyone know parents of Aaron Eavenson who was married to Priscilla Twining (1757-1837), daughter of Nathaniel Twining and wife Christiana?

Since I am only a participant, not an expert, there is some conceptual shorthand in them For an accurate discussion of DNA and how it is used in Genetic Genealogy, see url http://www.familytreedna.com/tutorial_A.html JFBailey www.baileywick.com -----Original Message----- From: pa-old-chester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pa-old-chester-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of E Johnson Sent: 22 October, 2006 17:50 To: PA-OLD-CHESTER@rootsweb.com Subject: [PaOldC] Why test Y? Why test yDNA only?? 1. Because a female receives one X chromosome from each parent. So testing DNA from X chromosome (of a female subject) could not reveal from which parent the DNA had been received. You'd have to test at least one of her parents, too. 2. Testing DNA from X chromosome of a male subject, of course, would show DNA material which he could only have received from his mother. He can prove who his mother was. But that's as far back as can be ascertained, because DNA from his mother could have come from the X chromosome she received from her mother, OR from the X chromosome she received from her father (see part 1). Therefore it would not be possible to tell from which of his mother's parents the grandson's xDNA had been received. So if we text xDNA, we would have to backtrack through records of xDNA results from every generation, which wouldn't get us back very far in time. Maybe at some point in the future, if a database of xDNA matched to names existed, it would be possible to prove a lineage through testing xDNA. It would still be a lot more work to do it that way, though. Hope this helps. Liz J ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Whoa!! Incorrect assumption. The two X Chromosomes that are received by the daughter only come from her mother, not from the father. The Father of passes on a Y Chromosome to his son, and the mother passes on an X Chromosome to her son. JFBailey www.baileywick.com -----Original Message----- From: pa-old-chester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pa-old-chester-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of E Johnson Sent: 22 October, 2006 17:50 To: PA-OLD-CHESTER@rootsweb.com Subject: [PaOldC] Why test Y? Why test yDNA only?? 1. Because a female receives one X chromosome from each parent. So testing DNA from X chromosome (of a female subject) could not reveal from which parent the DNA had been received. You'd have to test at least one of her parents, too. 2. Testing DNA from X chromosome of a male subject, of course, would show DNA material which he could only have received from his mother. He can prove who his mother was. But that's as far back as can be ascertained, because DNA from his mother could have come from the X chromosome she received from her mother, OR from the X chromosome she received from her father (see part 1). Therefore it would not be possible to tell from which of his mother's parents the grandson's xDNA had been received. So if we text xDNA, we would have to backtrack through records of xDNA results from every generation, which wouldn't get us back very far in time. Maybe at some point in the future, if a database of xDNA matched to names existed, it would be possible to prove a lineage through testing xDNA. It would still be a lot more work to do it that way, though. Hope this helps. Liz J ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I checked the CD of PA wills, but no mention of Aaron Eavenson..I was hoping to find him in the will of a parent. Are there other spellings I should look for? There are a good many Eavensons in the index of F&C, but no Aaron. Sandra " Does anyone know parents of Aaron Eavenson who was married to Priscilla Twining (1757-1837), daughter of Nathaniel Twining and wife Christiana? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.9/490 - Release Date: 10/20/2006

Does anyone know parents of Aaron Eavenson who was married to Priscilla Twining (1757-1837), daughter of Nathaniel Twining and wife Christiana? Nathaniel supposedly born 26 Jan 1730. Aaron died 1822. Aaron and Priscilla had children George, Emmer, Hannah, Susanna, Jesse, Benjamin, Rebecca, Eli and Jain. Eli, born 1794, married 1829 to Eliza Chalfant (or Eliza Lindell by a first marriage). This Eli is believed to be the Eli Eavenson who served in the War of 1812 from Chester Co. Eli and Eliza had children Ezra, Jane, Eliza Jane and Eli W. Eavenson (1839-1931) who married 1868 in LaSalle Co., IL to Mary (or Hannah Mary) Foulke. Eli W. died 1931 in Norman, OK, buried Mulhall, OK. All of above info furnished by a descendant and unverified by me except for Eli W.'s marriage in LaSalle Co., IL. I descend from another Eli Eavenson who was son of George Eavenson and Mary Williamson of Chester Co. and who moved to Elbert Co., GA ca 1790. Chandler Eavenson

Why test yDNA only?? 1. Because a female receives one X chromosome from each parent. So testing DNA from X chromosome (of a female subject) could not reveal from which parent the DNA had been received. You'd have to test at least one of her parents, too. 2. Testing DNA from X chromosome of a male subject, of course, would show DNA material which he could only have received from his mother. He can prove who his mother was. But that's as far back as can be ascertained, because DNA from his mother could have come from the X chromosome she received from her mother, OR from the X chromosome she received from her father (see part 1). Therefore it would not be possible to tell from which of his mother's parents the grandson's xDNA had been received. So if we text xDNA, we would have to backtrack through records of xDNA results from every generation, which wouldn't get us back very far in time. Maybe at some point in the future, if a database of xDNA matched to names existed, it would be possible to prove a lineage through testing xDNA. It would still be a lot more work to do it that way, though. Hope this helps. Liz J