Hi, Sandra! Thank you so much for this tip. This is a long and complicated saga, ending up with the simple fact that my aunt who is 80 this year, has been searching for her 2X great grandmother Sarah Magoon (would have been Alexander McGowan's daughter or more likely granddaughter) for 40 years! The last place we have info on her whereabouts was Sacramento California in 1880 when she would have been about 80 years old, and therefore, the rest of the details are not for this board to have to spend time reading. I am hoping that by taking a couple of steps back (to Sarah's father or grandfather), I may find previously unknown info that can lead me to her. Thanks, Kim On Feb 18, 2010, at 8:30 AM, [email protected] wrote: > I think I can pretty much promise you that the name was > McGowan......a > Scot would have pronounced it Magoon, and as we all know, record > keepers > wrote down what they heard...I feel confident it was McGowan and would > use this as my primary name spelling.. > I found an Alexander McGowan listed in F&C, as "a local preacher" at > the Springfield Methodist church ....unfortunately no date is > included. > Springfield was part of thr Strasburg and Chester curcuits, but Alex > was not itinerate...he lived there... so Springfireld looks a likely > place to look for him. > I didn't find him in the 1765 Archives,but this only meant that he > didn't own land.....he may have rented. check for him in all the tax > records I've put on the chester site. Also, see if you can find some > extant church records or a church history. > Good luck. > S > . > > I apologize in advance for the vagueness of this post, but I am having >> difficulty finding details. Looking for details on Alexander Magoon >> (or any derivation of spelling) who may have been born in either >> Chester or Lancaster County, Pa, approximately 1756 to Alexander >> Magoon and Sarah Blake. Some sources (not primary but secondary) say >> that the family originally settled in Ware, Massachusetts, but I also >> found several references to MacGowens in Pennsylvania. >> >> Thanks in Advance, >> >> Kim Spangrude >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

Betty~ Please excuse the length of this reply. I’m taking an opportunity to provide a little insight into Quaker research outside early Pennsylvania. If you already know this, please forgive me. However, the opportunity to give others an assist in this type of research is irresistable to me and your brickwall illustrates the problems involved very well. I’ll discuss everything first and then list the relevant Hinshaw items below. First off, while the information Carol provides clearly deals with your family, the quote from "Some Quaker families: Scarborough/Haworth, Volume 1" is erroneous, a problem when dealing with secondary sources. It does provide some information, but none of it concerns the couple it purports to be about. However, the errors can be resolved by a close review of Hinshaw’s Ohio records which are extensive. Specifically, the information purporting to be about William and Ruth [HUNT] CHALFONT is actually about their eldest son Abner CHALFONT and his wife Ruth LUPTON. While Sandra wondered if the Ohio records were complete and commented on the fact that the Hopewell MM are exhaustive, I believe the problem she ran into searching for a Ruth HUNT at Hopewell, is that Ruth HUNT didn’t come from there. I suspect the woman who came from Hopewell MM was actually Ruth LUPTON, although I didn’t follow up on this idea. Furthermore, as noted below, it was Abner and Ruth [LUPTON] CHALFONT who went to Clear Creek in 1823, Ruth [LUPTON] CHAFFANT [Chalfont] who was disowned in August 1829 for joining the Hicksites, and Abner & Ruth CHAFFANT who are listed as members of the Fall Creek MM (Hicksite) with five children (Margaret, Sarah, William P., Asa L., & Edwin). Given the information provided by Carol, Sandra’s search of the Hopewell MM, VA, records for any trace of Rachel [HUNT] CHALFANT was the obvious next step. Even without that information, the usual first stop in Ohio Quaker research is a check of the Hopewell records. Hopewell MM was on the main emigration route between eastern Pennsylvania and Maryland and the Ohio Country making it the obvious first place to look for early records of Ohio Quakers. However, there is another route by which Quakers moved into the Ohio territory. Starting in the late 1700s, North Carolina Quakers started moving north into Ohio and Indiana. There were a variety of reasons for the direction of this move, probably foremost among them the Quaker opposition to slavery. By the 1830s, a sizeable number of Quaker meetings in North Carolina had been laid down due to vast majority of their membership having moved on north and west. Those members remaining in the area were attached to the remaining MMs. The original Quaker population in North Carolina came from two different sources. The first was direct migration from England and Ireland to coastal North Carolina. The second route was from the mid-Atlantic colonies down the Shenandoah valley and into southern Virginia and western North Carolina. My first thought upon reading your question was, “what if the Chalfants actually came from North Carolina?” This would not exclude an earlier emigration from Pennsylvania down to North Carolina which would use up that missing 100 years. So I went looking in the Hinshaw records starting in Ohio and moving on to North Carolina. The Ohio extractions are contained in two volumes and are extensive. The North Carolina records are almost non-existant in comparison. Due to the closure of a majority of the meetings, many records were lost at a very early date, and additional records were lost during the Civil War. After an index search of the Ohio records, I found that Ruth CHALFONT was received on certificate at Fairfield MM, on 1808, 12, 31, from (rocf) Mt. Pleasant MM, in Grayson & Carrol Counties, Virginia. Further research in the Ohio records seemed to indicate that this person was the Ruth Chalfont I was looking for. Mt. Pleasant is located on the Virginia/North Carolina border and was set up in 1801 from New Garden MM. A search of the the North Carolina volume for Ruth found her leaving Westfield MM, Surry (& adjoining) Count(ies), North Carolina, to go to Mt. Pleasant MM, Virginia, where she was received on certificate on 1807, 1, 31. Westfield MM is also on the Virginia/North Carolina border. At this point we run into one of the major problems of Quaker research in the Southern States, lack of records. The total available Westfield records are contained in one volume of birth, death and marriage records and one volume of men’s meeting minutes from 1786 to 1828. There are NO women’s records in existence. The records for Mt. Pleasant are in similar shape with only one volume of birth, death & marriage records and one volume of women’s records. There are NO men’s records. Ruth is the only Chalfont mentioned. In fact her reception into and her departing from Mt. Pleasant are the only mentions of the name Chalfont in any spelling in the Hinshaw North Carolina records. However, there are a number of mentions of the name Hunt in the records there, including a reference to the family of Abner HUNT (wife Mary, children Ruth Jacob, Priscilla, Thomas, Elizabeth, Jemima, Ann & Josiah) be received at Westfield MM on 1792, 4, 21, on certificate from New Garden MM (Guilford County, NC), marriage of Abner HUNT to Mary POPE on 1771, 1, 16, at New Garden MM, and the birth of their daughter Ruth HUNT on 1771, 10, 15 at New Garden MM. Note the similarity of given names. I believe that it would pay you to focus on land record and probate research for Chalfonts and Hunts in the vicinity of New Garden, Mt. Pleasant and Westfield MMs. Also, probate research in Ohio may pay off if Ruth CHALFONT (the elder), really was the Ruth HUNT mentioned above and if her parents moved to Ohio as well. Back in Ohio, it appears that Ruth CHALFONT was active in meeting and, four years after arriving, as Ruth CHAFFANT we find her listed as a charter member and overseer of the Clear Creek MM when it was set off from Fairfield MM on 1812, 12, 24. It is interesting to note that a Rachel HUNT (relationship unknown) was charter member and clerk of the new meeting. Four months later, on 1813, 4, 22, William CHAFFANTand ten children (Esther, Abner, Mary, Aaron, William, Jacob, Bulah, Priscilla, Nathan H., and Jonathan B.) were received into meeting upon request. This request is usually made by a member of the family for another family member, i.e. parent for child, one spouse for another, etc. Thus, it appears that in 1813 Ruth was a Quaker in good standing, but for some reason her husband and children were not. On 1814, 2, 24, William and Ruth CHALFONT and all ten of their children were granted a certificate back to Fairfield MM where they were received on 1814, 3, 26, with the surname CHALFINCH . On 1818, 11, 11, William and Ruth’s eldest son Abner marries Ruth LUPTON at Fairfield MM. There are now two Ruth CHALFONTS in Fairfield MM. Five years later, on 1823, 3, 29, Abner CHALFONT & w (Ruth) & children (Margaret b. 1819 & Sarah b. 1821) are granted a certificate to Clear Creek MM. From this point on, Ruth Chalfont (wife of William) is the only Ruth CHALFONT in Fairfield MM and her daughter-in-law Ruth CHALFONT (wife of Abner) is now in Clear Creek MM. On 1829, 8, 8, at Clear Creek MM, Ruth CHAFFANT is disowned for joining Hicksites [dis jH]. Although the records don’t seem to indicate that Abner CHAFFANT was disowned by the Clear Creek MM, he later shows up in the Fall Creek MM (Hicksite) records as a member along with his wife Ruth and five children. Finally, starting on 1830, 4, 24, with William CHALFONT, most of William’s remaining family were disowned for joining Hicksites [dis jH]: 1830, 7, 25, William Jr. CHALFONT (3rd son); 1830, 7, 31, Elizabeth CHALFONT (wife of son Aaron); 1830, 11, 27, Jonathan CHALFONT (5th son); 1830, 11, 27, Nathan CHALFONT (6th & youngest son); 1830, 11, 27, Ruth CHALFONT (wif e); 1831, 1, 29, Jacob CHALFONT (4th son). To summarize, it appears that William and Ruth [HUNT] CHALFONT were probably married in Virginia or North Carolina in the mid 1790s and had children there before emigrating north to Ohio in 1808 where they probably had more children. Ruth appears to have been a member of meeting in good standing as she carried a certificate from Mt. Pleasant MM to Fairfield MM, although her husband and children were not members until received upon request in 1813 at Clear Creek MM in Ohio. Ruth CHAFFANT was a charter member and an overseer of Clear Creek MM in 1812. In 1814, William & Ruth moved their membership back to Fairfield MM where they stayed until they were disowned in 1830 for joining the Hicksites. No mention of any further Quaker membership is mentioned, either Orthodox or Hicksite. In 1818, their oldest son Abner married Ruth LUPTON, and in 1823, Abner & Ruth moved to Clear Creek MM where they remained members until Ruth was disowned in 1829 for joining the Hicksites, following which they became members of the Fall Creek MM (Hicksite). Extractions from Hinshaw’s Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy , Vol. V (Ohio Monthly Meetings) & Vol I (North Carolina Yearly Meeting) (HUNT research not included in list): Westfield MM, NC - 1807, 1, 10 - Ruth CHALFONT gct [granted certificate to] Mt. Pleasant MM, VA Mt. Pleasant MM, VA - 1807, 1, 31 - Ruth CHALFONT rocf [received on certificate from] Westfield MM, NC Mt. Pleasant MM, VA - 1808. 8, 27 - Ruth CHALFONT gct Fairfield MM, OH Fairfield MM, OH - 1808, 12, 31 - Ruth CHALFONT rocf Mt. Pleasant MM, VA Clear Creek MM, OH - 1812, 12, 24 - set off from Fairfield MM, Ruth CHAFFANT was listed as a charter member of the meeting and as an overseer. Rachel HUNT is listed as women’s clerk Clear Creek MM, OH - 1813, 4, 22 - William CHAFFANT & children Esther, Abner, Mary, Aaron, William, Jacob, Bulah, Priscilla, Nathan H., & Jonathan B. recrq [received on request] Clear Creek MM, OH - 1814, 2, 24 - Wm. CHALFONT & w, Ruth & children Esther, Abner, Mary, Aaron, Wm., Jacob, Beulah, Priscilla, Nathan, & Jonathan gct Fairfield MM, OH Fairfield MM, OH - 1814, 3, 26 - William CHALFINCH & w, Ruth & ch. [Esther, Abner, Mary, Aaron, Wm., Jacob,Beulah, Priscilla, Nathan, Jonathan] rocf Clear Creek MM, OH Fairfield MM, OH - 1818, 11, 11 - Abner CHALFONT, s. Wm. & Ruth, Highland Co., O.; m. at Fairfield; Ruth LUPTON, dt Asa & Hannah, Highland Co., O. (Margaret, b. 1819, 10, 2 [Fairfield MM, OH], Sarah, b. 1821, 8, 15 [Fairfield MM, OH]) Fairfield MM, OH - 1820, 12, 16 - Esther CHALFONT m. Hezekiah CARR Fairfield MM, OH - 1823, 3, 29 - Abner CHALFONT & w & ch, gct Clear Creek MM, OH Clear Creek MM, OH - 1823, 4, 12 - Abner CHAFFANT & w, Ruth & ch Margaret & Sarah rocf Fairfield MM, OH Fairfield MM, OH - 1825, 5, 28 - Aaron CHALFONT gct Clear Creek MM, OH to m. Elizabeth BARRIX Fairfield MM, OH - 1825, 5, 28 - Aaron CHALFONT gct Clear Creek MM, OH Clear Creek MM, OH - 1826, 4, 8 - Aaron CHALFANT rocf Fairfield MM, OH Fairfield MM, OH - 1827, 1, 27 - William Jr CHALFONT con mcd Fairfield MM, OH - 1827, 1, 31 - Bulah M. CHALFONT m. Gerrard LADD Clear Creek MM - 1827, 5, 12 - Aaron CHALFANT & w, Elizabeth & dt Mary gct Fairfield MM, OH Fairfield MM, OH - 1827, 6, 30 - Aaron CHALFONT & w, Elizabeth & dt Mary rocf Clear Creek MM, OH Fairfield MM, OH - 1829. 1, 31 - Aaron CHALFOND & fam gct White Water MM, OH; returned 1829, 6, 27, because of their rem. back Clear Creek MM, OH - 1829, 8, 8 - Ruth CHAFFANT dis jH Fairfield MM, OH - 1830, 4, 24 - William CHALFONT dis jH Fairfield MM, OH - 1830, 7, 25 - William Jr. CHALFONT dis jH Fairfield MM, OH - 1830, 7, 31 - Elizabeth CHALFONT dis jH Fairfield MM, OH - 1830, 11, 27 - Jonathan CHALFONT dis jH Fairfield MM, OH - 1830, 11, 27 - Nathan CHALFONT dis jH Fairfield MM, OH - 1830, 11, 27 - Ruth CHALFONT dis jH Fairfield MM, OH - 1830, 12, 29 - Priscilla CHALFONT m. Samuel MYERS Fairfield MM, OH - 1831, 1, 29 - Jacob CHALFONT dis jH Please l et me know if you have any questions regarding any of the above. 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I apologize in advance for the vagueness of this post, but I am having difficulty finding details. Looking for details on Alexander Magoon (or any derivation of spelling) who may have been born in either Chester or Lancaster County, Pa, approximately 1756 to Alexander Magoon and Sarah Blake. Some sources (not primary but secondary) say that the family originally settled in Ware, Massachusetts, but I also found several references to MacGowens in Pennsylvania. Thanks in Advance, Kim Spangrude

You might want to 'surf over' and see what's available . S. http://www.genealogybooklinks.com/

I have the Hinshaw's Quaker Encyc. on a CD, and I can't find some of what this book has...I believe the only thing I found on the whole CD was the cert when they moved to Clear Creek in 1814......I also have the HOPEWELL FRIENDS HISTORY 1774-1934, and there is no Ruth Hunt included in the index ... I'm unsure how complete Hinshaw's Ohio records are, but I believe the Hopewell book IS the complete record. S. > In the book, "Some Quaker families: Scarborough/Haworth," Volume 1, it > states this about William Chalfont and Ruth Hunt of Highland County, > OH: On 10 September 1818 Ruth from Hopewell MM, VA, gct Plainfield,MM, > Belmont Co. OH, received by Fairfield MM, OH. On 29 Mar 1823, they > gct Clear Creek MM, OH. On 8 Aug 1829 Ruth was disowned for joining > the Hicksite Friends. She became a member of the Falls Creek MM. > > I'm sure you're aware that a branch of the Chalfont Family had some > sort of connection with Virginia . Chads Chalfont (named for Chads > Ford in Brandywine?) [ John the immigrant, Robert, Robert, Chads b. > 1754] married a McCanna born in Harper's Ferry, VA. His son Basil d. > in Gurnsey Co, OH, and Basil's son, Chads, was born in Cochoton, OH in > 1812. This is more like the number of generations you are probably > looking for. > > I would do what Sandra suggested: start with what you know. Trace > Ruth back to the Hopewell MM and see if you can find some connections > for William in the Ohio records. See if you can figure out how they > met.

familysearch.org says he died July 26, 1840 in Highland County, Ohio. I will see what I can find on his death. I am sure there are no death certificates, but I'll check and see tomorrow. Newspapers are next. Thanks. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Ferguson" <[email protected]> To: "Betty MacDuff" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [PaOldC] John Chalfant, Marlborough, 1690-1727, est'd > Looks like you need to concentrate on William and Ruth....you know nothing > of Wm's parentage or origins...right? Then that's where to > start...anything that comes before that doesn't matter......it's William > that matters. Do you know anything else about him? I gather he lived in > Highland Co, Ohio and saw that he moved to the Fairfield meeting from the > Clear Creek meeting. Do you know when he died? Where he died? > > THE BAKERS OF SISSINGHURST AND OTHER RELATIVES, by McCullough pg 26; > "Children of Esther Baker, dau of Aaron and husband William Chalfant; > Mary, Martha, Esther, Aaron, Phebe, Alice, William, Sarah, Elziabeth, > Susanna. (nothing further given on any of these children)." (10 children, > not 12) > (more on Aaron and Esther Baker on other pages, if you're interested...I > can take you back through the Baker line to long before they came to Pa, > which was in the first 'wave' of Quakers). > > from Futhey and Cope; > "Wm Chalfant had 10 children with wife Esther Baker, dt of Aaron and Mary, > of West Marlborough. All his children married and several went west. > Aaron bought a farm in Londonderry in 1796, where he died Aug 29, 1808. > His wife was a dt of John Wilson who married a Todd. Wm Chalfant, son of > Aaron, born in April of 1798 lived at or near Chesterville, Franklin twp." > The original emigrant was the JOhn I told you of yesterday, who bought > land in Rockland Manor, in 1699....moved there 2 years later. His wife > was Martha...however, he had no son named Wm.....they were Robert, and > John.....no Wm. > There were various other Chalfants in the area, but Futhey and Cope are > unsure that all are descendant from John and Martha. > As these folks were Quakers, get 'cracking' on mm records. As > Rockland Manor then was Birmingham, I'd start there (I looked at all my > and Tim's books , and no Birmingham records, I'm afraid) > > S. > > I can prove through his 4th great grandfather, William Chalfant II who who > married Ruth Hunt using Monthly Meeting report : >> >> 1814, 2, 24. Wm. and w. [wife] Ruth, & ch. [children] Esther, Abner, >> Mary, Aaron, Wm., Jacob, Beulah, Priscilla, Nathan & Jonathan, gct >> [granted certificate to] Fairfield MM, Highland County, near Leesburg, >> Ohio >> >> Aaron is his 3rd great grandfather. >> >> >> >> Data listed but unproven: >> >> William I married Esther Baker and they had 12 children >> >> William I was supposedly the son of John Chalfant of West Marlborough who >> married possibly Martha __?__ >> >> >> >> This information was copied from: >> >> Addington/Chalfant Family History, >> <http://daddington.com/chalfantfamily.htm>, dnld June 24, 2009: >> >> Henry Chalfant and his family apparently stayed in England >> but his son John immigrated to America with his Uncle John. >> >> James Chalfant's father was John Chalfant, born 1690 in >> England. John Chalfant emigrated on >> >> the ship "Canterbury", arriving in the Port of Philadelphia on 30 Nov >> 1699 with his uncle John Chalfant and cousins John Chalfant, born 1689, >> and Robert Chalfant, born 1688. John settled with his uncle John on the >> Brandywine near Birmingham, in Chester County, Pennsylvania. They named >> this land "Rockland Manor". John Chalfant, born 14 Apr 1690, is often >> identified as John Chalfant of West Marborough where he settled. John and >> his wife, name unknown, had sons Joseph, Isaac, Henry, m. 15 Aug. 1742 >> Elizabeth Jackson, James, b. 20 Feb 1717; d. 1 Jan 1808 m. Hannah Harris, >> WILLIAM, and John >> >> >> >> I am trying to find a way to tie the Williams to John who supposedly came >> with Uncle to the colonies in 1699. >> >> >> >> Thanks again. >> >> Betty MacDuff >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2681 - Release Date: 02/11/10 > 02:35:00 >

This family was allied with my Buffington family , as John's two sons, John and Robert, were founding members of the baptist church in Brandywine, PA. The book you cite has Nathan born 17 Feb 1813. Are you saying below that the couple was married in 1814? Seems unlikely for Quaker members in good standing. LOL Are you saying this is the descending line?: John b. 1690 & Unk Wm b. 1717 & Esther (the birth date is from the book you cite) Wm b ca 1772 and Ruth Wow, that's some gap between William I and William II! Possible, but not likely. There's also the stumbling block that if John the immigrant had more than two sons, Robert and John, there appears to be no documentation of any other. Laying it out with the dates suggests the likelihood that a generation or two or three are missing. In the book, "Some Quaker families: Scarborough/Haworth," Volume 1, it states this about William Chalfont and Ruth Hunt of Highland County, OH: On 10 September 1818 Ruth from Hopewell MM, VA, gct Plainfield,MM, Belmont Co. OH, received by Fairfield MM, OH. On 29 Mar 1823, they gct Clear Creek MM, OH. On 8 Aug 1829 Ruth was disowned for joining the Hicksite Friends. She became a member of the Falls Creek MM. I'm sure you're aware that a branch of the Chalfont Family had some sort of connection with Virginia . Chads Chalfont (named for Chads Ford in Brandywine?) [ John the immigrant, Robert, Robert, Chads b. 1754] married a McCanna born in Harper's Ferry, VA. His son Basil d. in Gurnsey Co, OH, and Basil's son, Chads, was born in Cochoton, OH in 1812. This is more like the number of generations you are probably looking for. I would do what Sandra suggested: start with what you know. Trace Ruth back to the Hopewell MM and see if you can find some connections for William in the Ohio records. See if you can figure out how they met. Regards, Carol On Feb 11, 2010, at 4:24 PM, Betty MacDuff wrote: > OK, > I'll try again. > Forgot about the non-listing of attachments. > > I can prove through his 4th great grandfather, William Chalfant II > who who married Ruth Hunt using Monthly Meeting report : > > 1814, 2, 24. Wm. and w. [wife] Ruth, & ch. [children] Esther, Abner, > Mary, Aaron, Wm., Jacob, Beulah, Priscilla, Nathan & Jonathan, gct > [granted certificate to] Fairfield MM, Highland County, near > Leesburg, Ohio > > Aaron is his 3rd great grandfather. > > > > Data listed but unproven: > > William I married Esther Baker and they had 12 children > > William I was supposedly the son of John Chalfant of West > Marlborough who married possibly Martha __?__ > > > > This information was copied from: > > Addington/Chalfant Family History, <http://daddington.com/chalfantfamily.htm > >, dnld June 24, 2009: > > Henry Chalfant and his family apparently stayed in > England but his son John immigrated to America with his Uncle John. > > James Chalfant's father was John Chalfant, born 1690 > in England. John Chalfant emigrated on > > the ship "Canterbury", arriving in the Port of Philadelphia on 30 > Nov 1699 with his uncle John Chalfant and cousins John Chalfant, > born 1689, and Robert Chalfant, born 1688. John settled with his > uncle John on the Brandywine near Birmingham, in Chester County, > Pennsylvania. They named this land "Rockland Manor". John Chalfant, > born 14 Apr 1690, is often identified as John Chalfant of West > Marborough where he settled. John and his wife, name unknown, had > sons Joseph, Isaac, Henry, m. 15 Aug. 1742 Elizabeth Jackson, James, > b. 20 Feb 1717; d. 1 Jan 1808 m. Hannah Harris, WILLIAM, and John > > > > I am trying to find a way to tie the Williams to John who supposedly > came with Uncle to the colonies in 1699. > > > > Thanks again. > > Betty MacDuff > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Looks like you need to concentrate on William and Ruth....you know nothing of Wm's parentage or origins...right? Then that's where to start...anything that comes before that doesn't matter......it's William that matters. Do you know anything else about him? I gather he lived in Highland Co, Ohio and saw that he moved to the Fairfield meeting from the Clear Creek meeting. Do you know when he died? Where he died? THE BAKERS OF SISSINGHURST AND OTHER RELATIVES, by McCullough pg 26; "Children of Esther Baker, dau of Aaron and husband William Chalfant; Mary, Martha, Esther, Aaron, Phebe, Alice, William, Sarah, Elziabeth, Susanna. (nothing further given on any of these children)." (10 children, not 12) (more on Aaron and Esther Baker on other pages, if you're interested...I can take you back through the Baker line to long before they came to Pa, which was in the first 'wave' of Quakers). from Futhey and Cope; "Wm Chalfant had 10 children with wife Esther Baker, dt of Aaron and Mary, of West Marlborough. All his children married and several went west. Aaron bought a farm in Londonderry in 1796, where he died Aug 29, 1808. His wife was a dt of John Wilson who married a Todd. Wm Chalfant, son of Aaron, born in April of 1798 lived at or near Chesterville, Franklin twp." The original emigrant was the JOhn I told you of yesterday, who bought land in Rockland Manor, in 1699....moved there 2 years later. His wife was Martha...however, he had no son named Wm.....they were Robert, and John.....no Wm. There were various other Chalfants in the area, but Futhey and Cope are unsure that all are descendant from John and Martha. As these folks were Quakers, get 'cracking' on mm records. As Rockland Manor then was Birmingham, I'd start there (I looked at all my and Tim's books , and no Birmingham records, I'm afraid) S. I can prove through his 4th great grandfather, William Chalfant II who who married Ruth Hunt using Monthly Meeting report : > > 1814, 2, 24. Wm. and w. [wife] Ruth, & ch. [children] Esther, Abner, Mary, > Aaron, Wm., Jacob, Beulah, Priscilla, Nathan & Jonathan, gct [granted > certificate to] Fairfield MM, Highland County, near Leesburg, Ohio > > Aaron is his 3rd great grandfather. > > > > Data listed but unproven: > > William I married Esther Baker and they had 12 children > > William I was supposedly the son of John Chalfant of West Marlborough who > married possibly Martha __?__ > > > > This information was copied from: > > Addington/Chalfant Family History, > <http://daddington.com/chalfantfamily.htm>, dnld June 24, 2009: > > Henry Chalfant and his family apparently stayed in England > but his son John immigrated to America with his Uncle John. > > James Chalfant's father was John Chalfant, born 1690 in > England. John Chalfant emigrated on > > the ship "Canterbury", arriving in the Port of Philadelphia on 30 Nov 1699 > with his uncle John Chalfant and cousins John Chalfant, born 1689, and > Robert Chalfant, born 1688. John settled with his uncle John on the > Brandywine near Birmingham, in Chester County, Pennsylvania. They named > this land "Rockland Manor". John Chalfant, born 14 Apr 1690, is often > identified as John Chalfant of West Marborough where he settled. John and > his wife, name unknown, had sons Joseph, Isaac, Henry, m. 15 Aug. 1742 > Elizabeth Jackson, James, b. 20 Feb 1717; d. 1 Jan 1808 m. Hannah Harris, > WILLIAM, and John > > > > I am trying to find a way to tie the Williams to John who supposedly came > with Uncle to the colonies in 1699. > > > > Thanks again. > > Betty MacDuff > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2681 - Release Date: 02/11/10 02:35:00

OK, I'll try again. Forgot about the non-listing of attachments. I can prove through his 4th great grandfather, William Chalfant II who who married Ruth Hunt using Monthly Meeting report : 1814, 2, 24. Wm. and w. [wife] Ruth, & ch. [children] Esther, Abner, Mary, Aaron, Wm., Jacob, Beulah, Priscilla, Nathan & Jonathan, gct [granted certificate to] Fairfield MM, Highland County, near Leesburg, Ohio Aaron is his 3rd great grandfather. Data listed but unproven: William I married Esther Baker and they had 12 children William I was supposedly the son of John Chalfant of West Marlborough who married possibly Martha __?__ This information was copied from: Addington/Chalfant Family History, <http://daddington.com/chalfantfamily.htm>, dnld June 24, 2009: Henry Chalfant and his family apparently stayed in England but his son John immigrated to America with his Uncle John. James Chalfant's father was John Chalfant, born 1690 in England. John Chalfant emigrated on the ship "Canterbury", arriving in the Port of Philadelphia on 30 Nov 1699 with his uncle John Chalfant and cousins John Chalfant, born 1689, and Robert Chalfant, born 1688. John settled with his uncle John on the Brandywine near Birmingham, in Chester County, Pennsylvania. They named this land "Rockland Manor". John Chalfant, born 14 Apr 1690, is often identified as John Chalfant of West Marborough where he settled. John and his wife, name unknown, had sons Joseph, Isaac, Henry, m. 15 Aug. 1742 Elizabeth Jackson, James, b. 20 Feb 1717; d. 1 Jan 1808 m. Hannah Harris, WILLIAM, and John I am trying to find a way to tie the Williams to John who supposedly came with Uncle to the colonies in 1699. Thanks again. Betty MacDuff

Betty, et al.....attachments are not possible with rootsweb......so, you'll need to post whatever it is that is necessary to let others know what you have and what you need....I'll be frank about this, too, and tell you that when someone wants my help and then sends me off somewhere else to wade through tons of family 'stuff'. much not pertinent to the search at hand, I personally don't do it....others may, but I just don't. It always seems to me that if someone wants help they will make it 'easy' for others to help them, ....which means they weed out the unessential data and simply say what they want, and include the info necessary to figure it out.... Sandra " I have attached a copy of my report listed as an attachment. I would appreciate any help from you wonderful Old Chester List people."

Hi you all: Thanks for the replies. I must have been asleep when I posted that first note. I went back to my Family Tree Maker file and listed an Ahnentafel Report with my sources noted tying the generations together. A lot of the dates from generations 4 backward were taken from family records, census reports and Monthly meeting records. I have attached a copy of my report listed as an attachment. I would appreciate any help from you wonderful Old Chester List people. Thank you in advance for your help and suggestions. Betty MacDuff The Villages, FL

I remember once, 'back in the day', when I was first researching, I found an ancestor named Valentine Miller and I remember saying to my husband "NOW I've got him...how many Valentine Millers could there possibly be?" little knowing that the answer was a WHOOOLE lot of them.....he still throws that up to me every once in a while - when I say something positively, he'll say 'is that like Valentine Miller?"......documentation is the ONLY way to tell who our ancestors were, no matter the name be Vasey or Chalfant.....or Miller, for that matter! S. Carol, I looked at the 1765 Chester Archives and couldn't find any of your spellings..drat. Looked in the Will CD,.....no Veazey/Veasey/Vasey/Vesey/ Weissey in Chester or any surrounding cos (up to around 1830) I didn't check Archives and Records for later dates....a Samuel Weasey witnessed a 1816 Philly will, as did a Wm Vasey, in Bucks Co, 1774....slim pickin's I'm afraid. S. " My Vasey family is a good example of the need to work systematically. Vasey is such an uncommon name that when I started doing this thirty years ago I naively thought it would be easy. Another Vasey researcher and I have roots in the early 1800s in Bucks County, and thought we'd find a common ancestor. Not so: and yDNA bears this out. We are now working three Bucks County Vasey lines, none of which have genetic ties any closer than 36 generations! Still looking for additional information or documentation regarding these men found in Chester in 1766:" Thomas Vezey is listed as a citizen of East Nottingham tax rate list for 1766 with: 2 horses, two cows and 4 sheep John Veazey, listed as a freeman in Newgarden, Chester Co., tax rate list for 1766.

Most of my Veazey line is from Cecil County Maryland, just across the line. Will be glad to share with anyone. Corky Swanson E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (7.0.0.514) Database version: 6.14330 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

You must all think I am a yo-yo. Apparently my brain was not working yesterday when I sent that email. The 1820 census-forget about it. Let me go back to my FTMaker file and I will let you know how I get to my John which I do not believe is the John who came and settled in Rockland Manor. But give me a few days and I will get back to you all with exactly what I have to tie my husband Leigh Alan MacDuff to the Chalfants. Thank you for all your replies; I will read them and then reply. Betty MacDuff

My Vasey family is a good example of the need to work systematically. Vasey is such an uncommon name that when I started doing this thirty years ago I naively thought it would be easy. Another Vasey researcher and I have roots in the early 1800s in Bucks County, and thought we'd find a common ancestor. Not so: and yDNA bears this out. We are now working three Bucks County Vasey lines, none of which have genetic ties any closer than 36 generations! Still looking for additional information or documentation regarding these men found in Chester in 1766: Thomas Vezey is listed as a citizen of East Nottingham tax rate list for 1766 with: 2 horses, two cows and 4 sheep John Veazey, listed as a freeman in Newgarden, Chester Co., tax rate list for 1766. Thanks, Carol On Feb 10, 2010, at 10:44 AM, Sandra Ferguson wrote: > Carol is completely correct, and I was remiss in not mentioning it > myself.....I use to occasionally teach a gen. class and always > instruct folks to start with a known generation....such as > grandparents....document that generation with primary information > (this means actual records..wills, church records, marriage, birth > and death certificates, etc).....mentions of these events in other > books (county histories and the like) are not considered primary and > as such can't be considered proof. Completely document each > generation before moving back to the next one, and don't skip > around. There is absolutely NO way to know who is an ancestor > until and unless you prove each generation as you go. > So, if you let us know the last documented generation you have, > maybe we can help you out with it....or, at least we'll try. > The John George mentioned is the one I included in my post of > yesterday, but is this the one you seek? I can't tell. > S > . > > "Purely speaking from my personal experience, it seems to me that > you may be working in the wrong direction. Unless you have some > primary documentation on the descendants of John Chalfant that > leaves you within a generation of a connection to your husband's > family, based upon location, property, or some such, you might do > best to continue to work your way back from your husband > generation by generation," >

This may be the John Chalfont you see in the 1820 census #2219 ABRAHAM H REGESTER (John,David,Jane,Sarah,George),b.Edgmont,4-2- 1801;d.Kennet Twp.,6-19-1873;buried Middletown;m.1-2-1823,by Samuel Davis,Esq.,to Sarah Chalfant,b.1804;d.1-9-1829;dau.of John and Sarah Chalfant, Second m.,11-4-1830,by John Colwell,Esq.,to Ursula Marshall, d.Kennet,9-18-1880;dau.of James and Leah(?) Marshall.They were attenders of Friends' Meetings. Visit The George Smedley Homepage http://smedley.lewis.home.att.net -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Betty MacDuff Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 4:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PaOldC] John Chalfant, Marlborough, 1690-ca. 1725-29 HELP! This John is my husband's ancestor who came to the colonies with his uncle Henry and two cousins. He was only ca 9 at the time. I can find no record of John coming, marrying, buying land, a will, etc. I would like to tie John to son Wm, b. ca. 1723 and then follow the thread down to my husband. John is such a common name that it is hard to distinguish in the Census reports if it is him. I think he may be listed in West marlborough in 1820, but not sure. Would love to get some help with this search. Thank you. Betty MacDuff The Villages, FL [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is what I have been able to put together for the Chalfant line. I have a lot of Chalfants that I can't place in this outline. Corrections welcome. Barclay Richards Descendants of Robert Chalfant 1 Robert Chalfant b: circa 1625 d: 1695 +Lydia Barnard 2 John Chalfant b: May 08, 1660 d: August 1725 +Ruth Chandler 3 Robert Chalfant b: May 12, 1688 d: March 1767 +Martha ? b: 1700 4 Mary Chalfant b: November 26, 1713 d: Bef. July 20, 1792 +James Shields b: 1708 in Belfast, Ireland d: October 14, 1768 Married: May 25, 1733 5 Ruth Shields d: February 11, 1835 Ntnlty/Relig: Baptist +Richard Strode b: circa 1750 d: Bef. April 13, 1795 in Newlin Twp. Comment 1: Captain in Revolutionary War Occupation: blacksmith/tanner Father: William Strode Mother: Deborah Woodward Address 1: Newlin Twp. 6 Deborah Strode b: October 11, 1779 d: March 21, 1825 6 Mary Strode b: March 25, 1781 d: March 25, 1808 +Exekiel Rubicam d: 1853 Father: Peter Rubicam 6 William Strode b: December 26, 1782 d: December 28, 1851 Occupation: farmer Address 1: Newlin Twp. +Elizabeth M. ? b: January 07, 1787 d: April 01, 1861 in Mortonville, Pa. 6 Martha Strode b: circa 1786 Comment 1: died young 6 Ruth Strode b: November 20, 1788 d: June 29, 1822 6 [1] James Strode b: circa 1790 in Coatesville, pa. d: January 1871 in Fulton Co., Illinois +? Patterson Married: 1809 *2nd Wife of [1] James Strode: +Sarah Parks b: 1804 d: 1872 Married: April 21, 1825 in Harrison Co., Ohio Father: Robert Parks 6 Hannah Strode b: February 24, 1792 d: September 15, 1864 +John G. Powell b: February 08, 1792 d: January 27, 1883 Married: May 30, 1815 Father: John Powell Mother: Rachel Griffith 6 David Strode b: June 08, 1794 in Newlin Twp. d: October 20, 1858 Occupation: carpenter +Mary Wilson b: December 13, 1795 d: August 03, 1878 Father: Robert Wilson Mother: Elizabeth Buffington 5 Mary Shields 5 Martha Shields b: May 12, 1754 +Robert Young b: January 16, 1747/48 Married: 1775 6 [2] David Young b: May 23, 1779 +Elizabeth Conklin b: November 18, 1773 d: February 17, 1824 Married: December 26, 1797 *2nd Wife of [2] David Young: +Elizabeth Liggett Married: 1825 4 Elizabeth Chalfant b: December 29, 1715 +Abram Barnett 4 Robert Chalfant b: August 28, 1718 Comment 1: died young 4 Thomas Chalfant b: January 13, 1720/21 Comment 1: died young 4 Ruth Chalfant b: October 15, 1723 +? Frame 4 Robert Chalfant b: February 12, 1724/25 +Sarah Cloud b: 1722 in Chester Co., Pa Married: November 16, 1747 in Old Swedes Church, Wilmington, De Father: Mordecai Cloud Mother: Sarah Chads 5 Elizabeth Chalfant b: circa 1748 +? Brown 5 Mary Chalfant b: Aft. 1748 +? Peters 5 Chads Chalfant b: 1754 d: 1830 +Margaret McManna 6 Basil Chalfant b: 1790 +Mary M. ? 6 Elizabeth Chalfant b: Aft. 1776 +Wesley McCracken 6 Robert Chalfant b: Aft. 1776 +Mercy Short 6 Mordecai Chalfant b: 1781 d: 1846 +Mary Strawn b: March 19, 1785 d: 1854 Comment 1: " Polly " Father: Isaiah Strawn Mother: Rachel Reed 6 [3] Abner C. Chalfant b: 1787 d: 1865 +Hannah Brashear *2nd Wife of [3] Abner C. Chalfant: +Rachel McDonough 6 James Chalfant b: 1793 6 Walter Brown Chalfant b: 1794 d: 1865 +Molly Budd Brown b: December 09, 1793 in Mt. Holly, N.J. d: May 25, 1871 Married: March 21, 1816 5 Mordecia Chalfant b: April 08, 1757 d: 1823 +Margaret Forsythe b: 1759 d: 1845 6 Abner Chalfant b: circa 1784 6 Betsy Chalfant b: 1785 6 Robert Chalfant b: 1786 6 William A. Chalfant b: 1788 d: 1867 +Eleanor Johnson 6 Thomas Chalfant b: 1791 6 Amos Chalfant b: 1792 6 Frances Chalfant b: 1794 6 Margaret Chalfant b: 1796 6 Sarah Chalfant b: 1798 5 Sarah Chalfant b: Aft. 1748 +? Potinger 4 Thomas Chalfant b: March 02, 1728/29 d: 1777 in Chester Co., Pa. +Margaret Green b: June 13, 1725 d: 1790 in Chester Co., Pa. Married: January 1747/48 in Old Swedes Church, Wilmington, Del. Father: Robert Green Mother: Rachel Vernon 5 Robert Chalfant 5 Thomas Chalfant b: March 1758 in Chester Co., Pa. d: April 27, 1833 in Gallatin Co., Ky. +Mary Gray b: circa 1771 in Fairfax Co., Va. Married: May 1790 in Nelson Co., Ky. Father: Drakeford Gray Mother: Jemima Gladden 6 Maria Chalfant b: 1793 +John Bowman New 6 Nathaniel Chalfant b: 1795 6 Able Chalfant 6 John Gray Chalfant 6 Nancy Chalfant 6 Connie Chalfant 6 Amanda Chalfant 6 Mary Chalfant 6 Agnes Chalfant 6 Robert Chalfant 5 Rachel Chalfant 5 Abel Chalfant b: 1746 d: 1814 +Jane Cox Married: December 18, 1789 in Shelby Co., Ky. 5 David Chalfant 5 George Chalfant 5 Jesse Chalfant 5 Mary Chalfant 5 Martha Chalfant 5 Elizabeth Chalfant 3 Henry Chalfant b: 1689 3 John Chalfant b: April 14, 1690 in Northhamptonshire, England d: May 31, 1752 in Chester Co., Pa. Address 1: West Marlborough, Chester Co., Pa. Ntnlty/Relig: Baptist +Dorothy Adams 4 Henry Chalfant b: May 09, 1716 d: Bef. August 26, 1800 Address 1: West Marlborough, Chester Co., Pa. +Elizabeth Jackson b: October 28, 1720 Married: August 15, 1740 in London Grove Mtg Father: Thomas Jackson Mother: Ann Mann 5 Jonathan Chalfant b: April 08, 1743 +Ann Barnard b: February 11, 1755 Married: December 24, 1777 in London Grove Mtg Father: Thomas Barnard Mother: Sarah Miller 6 Thomas Chalfant b: November 02, 1778 +Jane Hughey b: 1789 d: 1870 6 Ann Chalfant b: May 11, 1780 6 Jonathan Chalfant b: May 15, 1783 6 Jacob Chalfant b: November 03, 1786 6 Annanias Chalfant b: August 24, 1788 +Ann Hughey b: 1796 d: 1899 6 Henry Chalfant b: May 13, 1792 d: 1862 +Isabella Campbell Weakley b: 1801 d: 1885 6 Eli Chalfant b: October 08, 1794 d: October 15, 1794 6 Eli Chalfant b: August 25, 1797 6 Amos Chalfant b: December 09, 1799 5 Thomas Chalfant b: November 20, 1745 d: August 22, 1831 in East Marlborough, Chester Co., Pa. +Phebe Hayes d: September 14, 1840 Married: April 05, 1775 in London Grove Mtg Father: David Hayes Mother: Ann Baily 6 Mary Chalfant 5 Henry Chalfant b: May 01, 1748 +Susannah Maris b: August 04, 1746 Married: May 17, 1775 Father: John Maris Mother: Katherine Bound 6 Caleb Chalfant Comment 1: unmarried 6 Abner Chalfant 6 [4] Abner Chalfant b: August 20, 1787 d: March 22, 1839 in East Marlborough Twp. Comment 2: interred FBG Londongrove +Jane Jackson b: 1793 d: August 11, 1832 in East Marlborough Twp. Comment 2: interred FBG Londongrove *2nd Wife of [4] Abner Chalfant: +Mary Wollaston b: 1795 d: May 08, 1836 in East Marlborough Twp., Chester Co., Pa. Married: April 09, 1835 Father: Joshua Wollaston Mother: Catherine Kirk *3rd Wife of [4] Abner Chalfant: +Edith Baily b: October 14, 1796 d: July 04, 1872 in Media Married: October 10, 1838 in London Grove Mtg Comment 2: interred FBG London Grove Father: Joshua Baily Mother: Ann Jackson 5 Ann Chalfant b: December 12, 1751 5 Elizabeth Chalfant b: February 02, 1754 +Joseph Dickinson b: July 22, 1749 in Kennett Twp., Chester Co., Pa. d: 1811 in Sadsbury Twp., Lancaster Co., Pa. Married: April 16, 1777 Father: Joseph Dickinson Mother: Elizabeth Miller 6 Elizabeth Dickinson +Caleb Chambers b: March 21, 1770 Married: April 03, 1799 Father: John Chambers Mother: Rebecca Johnson 6 Joseph Dickinson 6 Margaret Dickinson 6 Mary Dickinson 6 Hannah Dickinson b: December 11, 1783 in Sadsbury, Pa d: July 08, 1847 +David E. Chambers b: May 10, 1777 d: March 27, 1862 Married: 1803 Comment 2: interred FBG London Grove Mtg. Father: John Chambers Mother: Rebecca Johnson Address 1: Londongrove Twp. 6 Henry Dickinson b: August 28, 1785 d: June 14, 1821 Burial: Sadsbury FBG Address 1: Philadelphia, Pa. +Hannah Baily b: March 17, 1785 d: January 18, 1862 Married: January 10, 1816 in Londongrove Mtg Father: Isaac Baily Mother: Lydia Gilpin Painter 6 Phebe Dickinson b: November 14, 1793 d: March 30, 1875 Burial: FBG Sadsbury Comment 1: parentage not proven Comment 2: interred FBG Sadsbury +Joseph Pownall b: January 05, 1791 in Sadsbury Twp. d: March 17, 1869 Burial: FBG Sadsbury Married: April 13, 1814 in Sadsbury Mtg. Comment 2: interred FBG Sadsbury Occupation: farmer Father: Levi Pownall Mother: Elizabeth Buckman Ntnlty/Relig: Friend 5 [5] Jacob Chalfant b: January 11, 1758 +? Barnard *2nd Wife of [5] Jacob Chalfant: +? McCorkle 5 Mary Chalfant b: August 08, 1760 +? Bougher 5 Abner Chalfant b: November 16, 1762 5 Caleb Chalfant b: February 07, 1766 Address 1: Doe Run +Mary Dickinson b: 1776 Married: May 25, 1796 Father: Gayen Dickinson Mother: Mary Newlin 6 Phebe Chalfant b: June 09, 1797 6 Gaius Chalfant b: April 11, 1799 6 Hannah Chalfant b: May 12, 1801 d: December 18, 1837 +Isaac Smith b: January 01, 1794 d: June 20, 1876 in East Marlborough Twp., Chester Co., Pa. Burial: FBG Unionville Married: May 10, 1820 in Londongrove Mtg. Father: James Smith Mother: Mary Pyle Address 1: West Marlborough Twp., Chester Co., Pa. 6 Joel Chalfant b: July 10, 1803 d: February 27, 1836 6 James Chalfant b: November 20, 1806 6 Susanna Chalfant b: December 06, 1807 6 Mary Chalfant b: March 04, 1810 6 Rebecca Chalfant b: July 13, 1813 6 Margaret Chalfant b: September 26, 1810 d: August 05, 1817 4 [6] James Chalfant b: July 15, 1718 d: 1808 +Elizabeth Martin 5 James Chalfant b: 1771 5 John Chalfant b: 1773 5 Evan Chalfant b: 1775 5 Elizabeth Chalfant b: 1777 +? Crawford 5 David Chalfant b: 1779 5 George Chalfant b: 1781 +Martha Ottey Father: Philip Ottey Mother: Hannah Baker 6 James Chalfant b: 1802 d: 1842 +Mary Ann Jessup b: January 09, 1799 d: September 21, 1876 Father: Jonathan Jessup Mother: Susanna Updegraff *2nd Wife of [6] James Chalfant: +Hannah Harris Married: February 18, 1743/44 in London Grove Mtg. Father: Evan Harry Mother: Elizabeth Underwood 5 Phebe Chalfant b: circa 1741 5 Jesse Chalfant b: 1744 in Chester Co., Pa. d: 1847 in Guernsey Co., Ohio +Rachel Ann Baily Father: Joel Baily Mother: Hannah Wickersham 6 Jesse Chalfant b: October 02, 1796 in Chester Co., Pa. d: September 16, 1873 in Delaware Co., Indiana +Elizabeth Winders 6 Hannah Chalfant +Jesse Baily b: February 17, 1769 Married: November 12, 1812 in Fallowfield Mtg. Father: Isaac Baily Mother: Hannah Scarlett Address 1: 1819 Stillwater, Ohio 6 Lydia Chalfant 6 Ezekiel Chalfant 6 Joel Chalfant 5 Lydia Chalfant b: 1747 +? Bentley 5 Hanna Chalfant b: 1750 +? Nickals 4 Joseph Chalfant b: June 10, 1720 4 Isaac Chalfant b: 1721 4 William Chalfant b: January 19, 1723/24 d: circa 1799 Address 1: West Marlborough +Esther Baker b: circa 1732 Married: November 24, 1749 Father: Aaron Baker Mother: Mary Edwards 5 Mary Chalfant b: circa 1750 +John Brogan Married: October 13, 1770 5 Martha Chalfant b: January 01, 1751/52 in Chester Co., Pa. d: March 24, 1833 in Grayson Co., Va. +James McClure b: July 09, 1748 in Chester Co., Pa. d: August 16, 1821 in Grayson Co., Va. 6 Samuel McClure 6 Mary McClure 5 Esther Chalfant b: circa 1753 +William Thompson Married: 1772 5 Aaron Chalfant b: circa 1754 d: August 29, 1808 in Londonderry Twp. Address 1: Londonderry Twp. +Margaret Wilson Father: John Wilson Mother: Margaret Todd 5 Phebe Chalfant b: circa 1757 +James Durnell 5 Alice Chalfant +James Brogan 5 Sarah Chalfant b: February 08, 1764 in Chester Co., Pa. d: 1825 in Indiana +James A. Redus b: August 01, 1744 in Cecil Co., Md. d: October 05, 1821 in Indiana Married: 1785 Father: James Redus Mother: Catherine Parsons Address 1: Londonderry Twp. 5 Elizabeth Chalfant b: circa 1765 +Moses Cain 5 William Chalfant b: April 24, 1768 d: July 26, 1840 in Ohio +Ruth Hunt Married: April 22, 1794 in Grayson Co., Va. Father: Abner Hunt Mother: Mary ? 5 Susanna Chalfant b: circa 1770 d: 1817 +Cornelius Conard b: 1764 d: 1836 Father: Everard Conard Mother: Margaret Cadwallader 6 William Conard d: 1856 +Rebecca Llewelyn 6 Lydia Conard b: 1791 d: June 18, 1875 Comment 2: interred FBG Old Kennett +Jesse Way b: November 29, 1784 d: 1841 Comment 2: interred FBG Old Kennett Father: James Way Mother: Hannah Marshall 6 Esther C. Conard +Joseph Hallowell 6 Mary Conard +Joseph Hambleton 6 Elizabeth Conard +Robert Evans 6 Amy Conard 6 [7] Benjamin Conard b: 1810 d: 1902 +Mary Ann Moore *2nd Wife of [7] Benjamin Conard: +Eliza Roberts 4 John Chalfant b: 1730 4 Jane Chalfant +James Hayes 4 Mary Chalfant +? Carrington 4 Phebe Chalfant +? Clayton 4 Esther Chalfant +John Burgess 3 Elizabeth Chalfant b: 1691 +Caleb Swayne 3 Ruth Chalfant b: 1697 2 Henry Chalfant b: 1663 +Elizabeth Chandler b: 1664 2 Margaret Chalfant b: 1665 +Johnathan Compton

Carol is completely correct, and I was remiss in not mentioning it myself.....I use to occasionally teach a gen. class and always instruct folks to start with a known generation....such as grandparents....document that generation with primary information (this means actual records..wills, church records, marriage, birth and death certificates, etc).....mentions of these events in other books (county histories and the like) are not considered primary and as such can't be considered proof. Completely document each generation before moving back to the next one, and don't skip around. There is absolutely NO way to know who is an ancestor until and unless you prove each generation as you go. So, if you let us know the last documented generation you have, maybe we can help you out with it....or, at least we'll try. The John George mentioned is the one I included in my post of yesterday, but is this the one you seek? I can't tell. S. "Purely speaking from my personal experience, it seems to me that you may be working in the wrong direction. Unless you have some primary documentation on the descendants of John Chalfant that leaves you within a generation of a connection to your husband's family, based upon location, property, or some such, you might do best to continue to work your way back from your husband generation by generation,"

Here is a website that states the Chalfants came to Philadelphia in 1699 on the ship "Canterbury" with William Penn, who was on his last trip from England to Pennsylvania. The actual passenger list is not known, apparantly. http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/REDUS/1998-12/0913160466 Kim Spangrude On Feb 9, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Carol Thompson wrote: > Hi Betty; > > Purely speaking from my personal experience, it seems to me that you > may be working in the wrong direction. Unless you have some primary > documentation on the descendants of John Chalfant that leaves you > within a generation of a connection to your husband's family, based > upon location, property, or some such, you might do best to continue > to work your way back from your husband generation by generation, > > Sandra is correct: if you tell us how you made the connections you > have made, we could all better assist you. I hope you will post again > with the information. > > Regards, > Carol T. > > On Feb 9, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Betty MacDuff wrote: > >> HELP! >> This John is my husband's ancestor who came to the colonies with his >> uncle Henry and two cousins. He was only ca 9 at the time. I can >> find no record of John coming, marrying, buying land, a will, etc. >> I would like to tie John to son Wm, b. ca. 1723 and then follow the >> thread down to my husband. >> >> John is such a common name that it is hard to distinguish in the >> Census reports if it is him. I think he may be listed in West >> marlborough in 1820, but not sure. Would love to get some help with >> this search. Thank you. >> Betty MacDuff >> The Villages, FL >> [email protected] >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Hi Betty; Purely speaking from my personal experience, it seems to me that you may be working in the wrong direction. Unless you have some primary documentation on the descendants of John Chalfant that leaves you within a generation of a connection to your husband's family, based upon location, property, or some such, you might do best to continue to work your way back from your husband generation by generation, Sandra is correct: if you tell us how you made the connections you have made, we could all better assist you. I hope you will post again with the information. Regards, Carol T. On Feb 9, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Betty MacDuff wrote: > HELP! > This John is my husband's ancestor who came to the colonies with his > uncle Henry and two cousins. He was only ca 9 at the time. I can > find no record of John coming, marrying, buying land, a will, etc. > I would like to tie John to son Wm, b. ca. 1723 and then follow the > thread down to my husband. > > John is such a common name that it is hard to distinguish in the > Census reports if it is him. I think he may be listed in West > marlborough in 1820, but not sure. Would love to get some help with > this search. Thank you. > Betty MacDuff > The Villages, FL > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message