." I have some Painters in my Townsend lineage: Samuel Painter, will proved 1804, married Esther Gilpin ( I don't have dates of birth on either of them). They had 1) Hannah b. 1751 in Chester, PA, she married Joseph Townsend b. 1756 in Chester, PA., in 1782 in the Birmingham Monthly Meeting 2)Samuel and 3) George. I was wondering how Thomas Painter and Samuel Painter were related." I may have found what you're looking for; a Samuel Painter is suppose to have come from the part of England bordering onWales, and his name is found as a lot owner in Philly, in 1705. His son Samuel purchased land in Birmingham in 1707. He was married 4, 7, 1716, at the Concord meeting to Elizabeth Buxcey, a sister to the wife of John Passmore, of Kennett. Their children were Mary, m to Isaac Gilpin;. Samuel; John, m to Agnes Coebourn and Sarah Yeatman; Thomas m to Grace Cloud; Ann m to Robert Chamberlin; and Lydia. Samuel m 6-5 1741 to Esther, dau of Joseph and Hannah Gilpin, of Birmingham. Their children were James m to Jane Carter' George; Lydia m Isaac Baily; Joseph; Thomas; Hannah m to Joseph Townsend, of Baltimore; and Samuel. from the Concord MM records; Samuel Painter, son of Samuel Painter and Elizabeth his wife of Burmingham m Esther Gilpin, dau of Joseph Gilpin...deceased... and his widdow Hannah....m at the concord MH 5 6m 1741 Joseph Townsend, s of John and Joanna Townsend of East Bradford, m Hannah Painter, dau of Samuel and Esther Painter, 6, 6m 1782 at Birmingham MH. Sandra

from a lookup; John Pusey, son of John and Cathrin Pusey of London Grove, married Elizabeth Painter, dau of Thomas and Grace Painter, of Birmingham.

Hello all, Just found this information about Brandywine Manor ... I’m very happy to know this and can understand that someone would say that an ancestor moved to Brandywine Manor and there died ... Patrick Mccahen (McCahan) and John Green, Brandywine, are listed in the 1799 tax lists. I’m almost afraid to start looking ... fingers are crossed. Joyce CHESTER COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA Part of the AMERICAN LOCAL HISTORY NETWORK BRANDYWINE TOWNSHIP Including East & West FROM THE 1881 HISTORY OF CHESTER COUNTY SOURCES: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pacheste/chester_twplist_brandy_1881his.htm History of Chester County, Pennsylvania; Futhey & Cope; Louis H. Everts; Philadelphia; 1881. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The township of Brandywine was erected from the northern part of East Caln township in 1790, and extended northward to the southern line of Springton Manor. It received its name from the stream by the two branches of which it was bounded respectively on its east and west sides. It was divided into East Brandywine and West Brandywine in 1844. In 1853 a small part of the southern end of West Brandywine was taken in the formation of Valley township, and in 1859 the line between East Brandywine and West Brandywine was altered in a part of its course so as to include in West Brandywine a part of East Brandywine. In 1860 West Brandywine was enlarged on the north by a considerable addition to it from the southeast corner of Honeybrook and the western part of Wallace. This addition included the Presbyterian church commonly known as Brandywine Manor, which theretofore had been in Honeybrook. The name "Brandywine Manor" being borne in common parlance by this church, and there being also a post-office of the same name, has given the impression that there was a manor of that name. This, however, was not the case. There never was a manor created by William Penn or his hears bearing the name of Brandywine. The church above referred to is situated upon lands which formed part of the manor of Springton. This manor embraced the greater part of what is now Wallace township, and also a part of the present township of West Brandywine, and perhaps of other townships. The church above referred to has been ecclesiastically known from the earliest period of its history to the present time as the "Forks of Brandywine," and being located on manor-land, it became popularly known as the "Manor church," to which Brandywine, from the name of the church, would naturally be added. It is commonly spoken of, even at the present day, by those residing in the vicinage, as the "Manor church." On the north line of the two townships a survey was made in 1714, for George Claypoole, of 1820 acres. South of this William Branson, of Philadelphia, held 1275 acres. In 1799 the number of taxables was 193. -----Original Message----- From: Joyce Doty Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 1:40 PM To: Sandra Ferguson ; pa-old-chester-l@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Jane Greene/Green I think the history of the townships and counties and how they have changed over the years is important for genealogy research so I appreciate this information as well as the Futhey and Cope and Nathaniel Green references. The reference to a Brandywine Manor House in Henry S. Green’s bio was interesting and there is such a place, built in 1730 along the west branch of the Brandywine Creek. Maybe more research will turn up more information. http://www.brandywinemanorhouse.com/about.htm I may not find an official record of my Jane Greene but it is proving to be an interesting and insightful process and I will continue ... thank you for checking out Bartholomew Green ... I’ll check on other ships too. Fortunately I have pretty good information for the McCahan family. Hopefully I will find records for other Pennsylvania ancestors. Thank you all for your assistance. Joyce Doty From: Sandra Ferguson Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 10:11 AM To: Joyce Doty ; pa-old-chester-l@rootsweb.com Subject: Greene/Green Brandywine is not a bldg, but a township, now comprised of East and West Brandywine, and was created from the northern part of East Caln twp in 1790, and extended northward to the southern line of Sprintgon, It was divided into East and West in around 1845. Personally, I've never heard of Green Hill, Chester Co.....it's possible it is the name of a farm, but I don't think it's a town or village. I've looked for wills that contain some of these folks, and while there are a good many Green/Greene wills, I can't find any that appear to be the folks you're looking for....and, none of the names appear in the index of THE HISTORY OF CHESTER COUNTY PA, by Futhey and Cope. The only Green included in the listing of the Welcome passengers was Bartholomew, who is never again mentioned in Chester records, and is thought to perhaps have returned to England. Nathaniel Green was from RI, not PA, and died somewhere in GA....exactly where escapes me at the moment. It appears, from the bio of Nathaniel Green , that the general had two half brothers: Benjamin (no children); Thomas (unmarried); Jacob (b 1739/40, d 1809); William (unmarried); Elihu or Elisha (1746-1827); Christopher (1748-1830); and Perry M. (b 1749). This is from "The Greenes of Rhode Island" by Louise Brownell Greene. The only mention of a McCahan is that on the roll of Capt Harris's Co light infantry....Oct 14, 1794. Daniel is listed as being from East Whiteland. Sorry, but I haven't found a thing you could follow up on. Sandra l ... "Jane Greene was born December 4, 1769 in Chester County, PA. Her ancestors came to America from Radnorshire, Wales in 1682 with William Penn on his first voyage tom America. She was a relative of John and Nathaniel Greene who both served under Washington during the Battle of Brandywine. As a girl she assisted in carrying water for the wounded who fell in that battle. She also administered to their needs after the war closed. Jane Greene married Patrick McCahan June 15, 1795. The first resided in Chester County, Pa. When emigration started westward in Pennsylvania they landed in Juniata County about 1805 or 1806." Recently I found these references (excerpts from lengthy bios) to a Henry S Greene and Edward Augustus Green in a Commemorative biographical encyclopedia of the Juniata Valley : comprising the counties of Huntingdon, Mifflin, Juniata and Perry, Pennsylvania. Containing sketches of prominent and representative citizens and many of the early settlers (1897) 780 pages ... I have page numbers for those I’ll be researching but it’s very long to download. http://www.archive.org/stream/commemorativebio01cham#page/n15/mode/2up I will be looking into the ancestors of these Green/e men to see if there is any link to Jane. I would, of course, appreciate your input. My question is about Brandywine Manor and Greene Hill, Chester County. I looked up Brandywine Manor and see that it is now an attractive inn. What about its history during the ARW and how is it that it would have been the place where John Greene and his wife both died ... and what is Greene Hill? I realize that the information in this Commemorative Bio collection may not be invalid, or some valid and some not ... but it’s interesting and adds to the story. Oh, also, the bio for David McCahan says that his grandmother (Jane) “was of a Quaker family”. "Henry S, Greene, Trough Creek,Huntingdon county, Pa., was born in Blaircounty, then forming a part of Huntingdon, May 15, 1823. He is a son of Samuel L. andElizabeth L. (Stewart) Greene. JohnGreene, the father of Samuel L., and grandfatherof Henry S. Greene,., was a brother ofthe well known Revolutionary general, NathanielGreene. The family is of English ancestry,and settled in the province of Pennsylvaniaat an early date. John Greene, as wellas his brother, was a soldier under Washington.Peace being restored, he passed the remainderof his life at Brandywine Manor andGreene Hill, Chester county, Pa. He hadtwo children, of whom Samuel L. was theelder, born at Brandywine in 1789. Theyounger was Keziah, wife of O. M. Coulter,of Ohio. John Greene and his wife both diedat Brandywine Manor. Samuel L. Greenehad an excellent education, above the average for his time.He was a man of intelligence and shared the taste for writing that seems to have been hereditary in the family, to judge from the grahic productions of ProfessorGreen, Grandson of the General, and thereforeSecond cousin of Samuel L. Greene. ... " "EDWARD AUGUSTUS GREEN, Mill Creek, Huntingdon county. Pa., was born inMilesburg, Pa. November 20. 1831, son of Joseph and Catherine (Miles) Green. Theancestors of Mr. Green were of Welsh descent,and emigrated from Radnorshire. Wales, in 1682, with Williara Penn, on his first voyageto America; thev settled in and near Philadelphia,Pa. ..."

I think the history of the townships and counties and how they have changed over the years is important for genealogy research so I appreciate this information as well as the Futhey and Cope and Nathaniel Green references. The reference to a Brandywine Manor House in Henry S. Green’s bio was interesting and there is such a place, built in 1730 along the west branch of the Brandywine Creek. Maybe more research will turn up more information. http://www.brandywinemanorhouse.com/about.htm I may not find an official record of my Jane Greene but it is proving to be an interesting and insightful process and I will continue ... thank you for checking out Bartholomew Green ... I’ll check on other ships too. Fortunately I have pretty good information for the McCahan family. Hopefully I will find records for other Pennsylvania ancestors. Thank you all for your assistance. Joyce Doty From: Sandra Ferguson Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 10:11 AM To: Joyce Doty ; pa-old-chester-l@rootsweb.com Subject: Greene/Green Brandywine is not a bldg, but a township, now comprised of East and West Brandywine, and was created from the northern part of East Caln twp in 1790, and extended northward to the southern line of Sprintgon, It was divided into East and West in around 1845. Personally, I've never heard of Green Hill, Chester Co.....it's possible it is the name of a farm, but I don't think it's a town or village. I've looked for wills that contain some of these folks, and while there are a good many Green/Greene wills, I can't find any that appear to be the folks you're looking for....and, none of the names appear in the index of THE HISTORY OF CHESTER COUNTY PA, by Futhey and Cope. The only Green included in the listing of the Welcome passengers was Bartholomew, who is never again mentioned in Chester records, and is thought to perhaps have returned to England. Nathaniel Green was from RI, not PA, and died somewhere in GA....exactly where escapes me at the moment. It appears, from the bio of Nathaniel Green , that the general had two half brothers: Benjamin (no children); Thomas (unmarried); Jacob (b 1739/40, d 1809); William (unmarried); Elihu or Elisha (1746-1827); Christopher (1748-1830); and Perry M. (b 1749). This is from "The Greenes of Rhode Island" by Louise Brownell Greene. The only mention of a McCahan is that on the roll of Capt Harris's Co light infantry....Oct 14, 1794. Daniel is listed as being from East Whiteland. Sorry, but I haven't found a thing you could follow up on. Sandra l ... "Jane Greene was born December 4, 1769 in Chester County, PA. Her ancestors came to America from Radnorshire, Wales in 1682 with William Penn on his first voyage tom America. She was a relative of John and Nathaniel Greene who both served under Washington during the Battle of Brandywine. As a girl she assisted in carrying water for the wounded who fell in that battle. She also administered to their needs after the war closed. Jane Greene married Patrick McCahan June 15, 1795. The first resided in Chester County, Pa. When emigration started westward in Pennsylvania they landed in Juniata County about 1805 or 1806." Recently I found these references (excerpts from lengthy bios) to a Henry S Greene and Edward Augustus Green in a Commemorative biographical encyclopedia of the Juniata Valley : comprising the counties of Huntingdon, Mifflin, Juniata and Perry, Pennsylvania. Containing sketches of prominent and representative citizens and many of the early settlers (1897) 780 pages ... I have page numbers for those I’ll be researching but it’s very long to download. http://www.archive.org/stream/commemorativebio01cham#page/n15/mode/2up I will be looking into the ancestors of these Green/e men to see if there is any link to Jane. I would, of course, appreciate your input. My question is about Brandywine Manor and Greene Hill, Chester County. I looked up Brandywine Manor and see that it is now an attractive inn. What about its history during the ARW and how is it that it would have been the place where John Greene and his wife both died ... and what is Greene Hill? I realize that the information in this Commemorative Bio collection may not be invalid, or some valid and some not ... but it’s interesting and adds to the story. Oh, also, the bio for David McCahan says that his grandmother (Jane) “was of a Quaker family”. "Henry S, Greene, Trough Creek,Huntingdon county, Pa., was born in Blaircounty, then forming a part of Huntingdon, May 15, 1823. He is a son of Samuel L. andElizabeth L. (Stewart) Greene. JohnGreene, the father of Samuel L., and grandfatherof Henry S. Greene,., was a brother ofthe well known Revolutionary general, NathanielGreene. The family is of English ancestry,and settled in the province of Pennsylvaniaat an early date. John Greene, as wellas his brother, was a soldier under Washington.Peace being restored, he passed the remainderof his life at Brandywine Manor andGreene Hill, Chester county, Pa. He hadtwo children, of whom Samuel L. was theelder, born at Brandywine in 1789. Theyounger was Keziah, wife of O. M. Coulter,of Ohio. John Greene and his wife both diedat Brandywine Manor. Samuel L. Greenehad an excellent education, above the average for his time.He was a man of intelligence and shared the taste for writing that seems to have been hereditary in the family, to judge from the grahic productions of ProfessorGreen, Grandson of the General, and thereforeSecond cousin of Samuel L. Greene. ... " "EDWARD AUGUSTUS GREEN, Mill Creek, Huntingdon county. Pa., was born inMilesburg, Pa. November 20. 1831, son of Joseph and Catherine (Miles) Green. Theancestors of Mr. Green were of Welsh descent,and emigrated from Radnorshire. Wales, in 1682, with Williara Penn, on his first voyageto America; thev settled in and near Philadelphia,Pa. ..."

Brandywine is not a bldg, but a township, now comprised of East and West Brandywine, and was created from the northern part of East Caln twp in 1790, and extended northward to the southern line of Sprintgon, It was divided into East and West in around 1845. Personally, I've never heard of Green Hill, Chester Co.....it's possible it is the name of a farm, but I don't think it's a town or village. I've looked for wills that contain some of these folks, and while there are a good many Green/Greene wills, I can't find any that appear to be the folks you're looking for....and, none of the names appear in the index of THE HISTORY OF CHESTER COUNTY PA, by Futhey and Cope. The only Green included in the listing of the Welcome passengers was Bartholomew, who is never again mentioned in Chester records, and is thought to perhaps have returned to England. Nathaniel Green was from RI, not PA, and died somewhere in GA....exactly where escapes me at the moment. It appears, from the bio of Nathaniel Green , that the general had two half brothers: Benjamin (no children); Thomas (unmarried); Jacob (b 1739/40, d 1809); William (unmarried); Elihu or Elisha (1746-1827); Christopher (1748-1830); and Perry M. (b 1749). This is from "The Greenes of Rhode Island" by Louise Brownell Greene. The only mention of a McCahan is that on the roll of Capt Harris's Co light infantry....Oct 14, 1794. Daniel is listed as being from East Whiteland. Sorry, but I haven't found a thing you could follow up on. Sandra l ... "Jane Greene was born December 4, 1769 in Chester County, PA. Her ancestors came to America from Radnorshire, Wales in 1682 with William Penn on his first voyage tom America. She was a relative of John and Nathaniel Greene who both served under Washington during the Battle of Brandywine. As a girl she assisted in carrying water for the wounded who fell in that battle. She also administered to their needs after the war closed. Jane Greene married Patrick McCahan June 15, 1795. The first resided in Chester County, Pa. When emigration started westward in Pennsylvania they landed in Juniata County about 1805 or 1806." Recently I found these references (excerpts from lengthy bios) to a Henry S Greene and Edward Augustus Green in a Commemorative biographical encyclopedia of the Juniata Valley : comprising the counties of Huntingdon, Mifflin, Juniata and Perry, Pennsylvania. Containing sketches of prominent and representative citizens and many of the early settlers (1897) 780 pages ... I have page numbers for those I’ll be researching but it’s very long to download. http://www.archive.org/stream/commemorativebio01cham#page/n15/mode/2up I will be looking into the ancestors of these Green/e men to see if there is any link to Jane. I would, of course, appreciate your input. My question is about Brandywine Manor and Greene Hill, Chester County. I looked up Brandywine Manor and see that it is now an attractive inn. What about its history during the ARW and how is it that it would have been the place where John Greene and his wife both died ... and what is Greene Hill? I realize that the information in this Commemorative Bio collection may not be invalid, or some valid and some not ... but it’s interesting and adds to the story. Oh, also, the bio for David McCahan says that his grandmother (Jane) “was of a Quaker family”. "Henry S, Greene, Trough Creek,Huntingdon county, Pa., was born in Blaircounty, then forming a part of Huntingdon, May 15, 1823. He is a son of Samuel L. andElizabeth L. (Stewart) Greene. JohnGreene, the father of Samuel L., and grandfatherof Henry S. Greene,., was a brother ofthe well known Revolutionary general, NathanielGreene. The family is of English ancestry,and settled in the province of Pennsylvaniaat an early date. John Greene, as wellas his brother, was a soldier under Washington.Peace being restored, he passed the remainderof his life at Brandywine Manor andGreene Hill, Chester county, Pa. He hadtwo children, of whom Samuel L. was theelder, born at Brandywine in 1789. Theyounger was Keziah, wife of O. M. Coulter,of Ohio. John Greene and his wife both diedat Brandywine Manor. Samuel L. Greenehad an excellent education, above the average for his time.He was a man of intelligence and shared the taste for writing that seems to have been hereditary in the family, to judge from the grahic productions of ProfessorGreen, Grandson of the General, and thereforeSecond cousin of Samuel L. Greene. ... " "EDWARD AUGUSTUS GREEN, Mill Creek, Huntingdon county. Pa., was born inMilesburg, Pa. November 20. 1831, son of Joseph and Catherine (Miles) Green. Theancestors of Mr. Green were of Welsh descent,and emigrated from Radnorshire. Wales, in 1682, with Williara Penn, on his first voyageto America; thev settled in and near Philadelphia,Pa. ..."

from a lookup; found the Hadly family in IMMIGRATION OF THE IRISH QUAKERS TO PA 1682-1750. It includes Simon and his wife Ruth, from Moate meeting, Co West Meath, whose certificate was received 5 mo 4, 1716... All their children are listed ....... Joseph, Deborah, Joshua, Simon, Hannah, Ruth, Katharine, Ann. Their mother d 12 m 18, 1750-1 and was buried at New Garden, after which Simon married Phebe, widow of Richard Buffington of Bradford, Chester Co. From the same book on Irish Quakers; Robert Johnson and his wife Margaret, were from Carlow Meeting, Ireland, and their certificate was accepted at the Kennett MM 12 m 4, 1714. Margaret's maiden name was Berthwaite. They settled on a tract of 200 acres in New Garden where he died in 1732, leaving children; Benjamin, James, Joshua, Robert, Abigail, and Ann. Joshua was b 7 m, 29, 1696 at Coleboy, Co Wicklow and m Sarah dau Gayen and Margaret Miller.... If you're looking for the tie in of these 2 families, Robert Johnson Jr m Katharine, dau of Simon and Ruth Hadfly and had children; Hannah, Simon, Caleb, Lydia, Stephen, Jonathan, and Isaac.

Hi all ... This information is linked to every reference to Jane Green/e that I've found, origin of info. unknown ... some of which is questionable. ... repeated here, sorry but thought it’s pertinent: "Jane Greene was born December 4, 1769 in Chester County, PA. Her ancestors came to America from Radnorshire, Wales in 1682 with William Penn on his first voyage tom America. She was a relative of John and Nathaniel Greene who both served under Washington during the Battle of Brandywine. As a girl she assisted in carrying water for the wounded who fell in that battle. She also administered to their needs after the war closed. Jane Greene married Patrick McCahan June 15, 1795. The first resided in Chester County, Pa. When emigration started westward in Pennsylvania they landed in Juniata County about 1805 or 1806." Recently I found these references (excerpts from lengthy bios) to a Henry S Greene and Edward Augustus Green in a Commemorative biographical encyclopedia of the Juniata Valley : comprising the counties of Huntingdon, Mifflin, Juniata and Perry, Pennsylvania. Containing sketches of prominent and representative citizens and many of the early settlers (1897) 780 pages ... I have page numbers for those I’ll be researching but it’s very long to download. http://www.archive.org/stream/commemorativebio01cham#page/n15/mode/2up I will be looking into the ancestors of these Green/e men to see if there is any link to Jane. I would, of course, appreciate your input. My question is about Brandywine Manor and Greene Hill, Chester County. I looked up Brandywine Manor and see that it is now an attractive inn. What about its history during the ARW and how is it that it would have been the place where John Greene and his wife both died ... and what is Greene Hill? I realize that the information in this Commemorative Bio collection may not be invalid, or some valid and some not ... but it’s interesting and adds to the story. Oh, also, the bio for David McCahan says that his grandmother (Jane) “was of a Quaker family”. "Henry S, Greene, Trough Creek, Huntingdon county, Pa., was born in Blair county, then forming a part of Huntingdon, May 15, 1823. He is a son of Samuel L. and Elizabeth L. (Stewart) Greene. John Greene, the father of Samuel L., and grandfather of Henry S. Greene,., was a brother of the well known Revolutionary general, Nathaniel Greene. The family is of English ancestry, and settled in the province of Pennsylvania at an early date. John Greene, as well as his brother, was a soldier under Washington. Peace being restored, he passed the remainder of his life at Brandywine Manor and Greene Hill, Chester county, Pa. He had two children, of whom Samuel L. was the elder, born at Brandywine in 1789. The younger was Keziah, wife of O. M. Coulter, of Ohio. John Greene and his wife both died at Brandywine Manor. Samuel L. Greene had an excellent education, above the average for his time. He was a man of intelligence and shared the taste for writing that seems to have been hereditary in the family, to judge from the grahic productions of Professor Green, Grandson of the General, and therefore Second cousin of Samuel L. Greene. ... " "EDWARD AUGUSTUS GREEN, Mill Creek, Huntingdon county. Pa., was born in Milesburg, Pa. November 20. 1831, son of Joseph and Catherine (Miles) Green. The ancestors of Mr. Green were of Welsh descent, and emigrated from Radnorshire. Wales, in 1682, with Williara Penn, on his first voyage to America; thev settled in and near Philadelphia, Pa. ..." Whew ... tell me if this is too much info ... Joyce Doty Eureka Springs, Arkansas

I have the birth and death records of the New Garden MM, and there are no Hadleys included...there are Headleys, which may well be another spelling.... There are also a LOT of Johnsons. I'll be glad to see if your ancestors appear in the records, if you send me given names to go with the surnames. These aren't really burial records, but meeting records of births and deaths,........are you interested ONLY in photos of headstones, or in family info?. If the latter, I'll be glad to see what I can find for you. There are many, many extant headstones from the 1750s, and much earlier, and it's not unusual to find these today. Also, I have placed data on findagrave for some of my ancestors, and not placed photos on the site. So, just because there isn't a photo of a headstone doesn't mean that there isn't one in existance. Sandra " I have a number of Hadley and Johnson ancestors buried in the New Garden MM (Quaker) Cemetery in Chester County and their burials appear on Findagrave. There are no photos of markers of the older burials. Does anyone know if the burials for this cemetery were published at some time? I find it difficult to believe that there are existing markers for someone who died in 1756 so that someone could have done a reading of this cemetery. I thought it might have been taken from a publication."

I have a number of Hadley and Johnson ancestors buried in the New Garden MM (Quaker) Cemetery in Chester County and their burials appear on Findagrave. There are no photos of markers of the older burials. Does anyone know if the burials for this cemetery were published at some time? I find it difficult to believe that there are existing markers for someone who died in 1756 so that someone could have done a reading of this cemetery. I thought it might have been taken from a publication. Any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks for your help, Judy Oklahoma City

Thank you ... I appreciate the encouragement and I will continue to look for Jane Green. Even if I can't find her birth record, it seems that there should be a record of her marriage to Patrick McCahan June 15, 1795 Chester County. Where would that be found? Their first five children are recorded as born in Chester, Chester County, subsequent children were born in Juniata County. I wonder if that would mean the city of Chester in Chester County which would be in Delaware County after 1789 as you said. Would that make any difference? I also wonder where the story originated of her helping soldiers at Brandywine and the rest. If it came from Jane, maybe there was a reason for her not identifying her parents ... which will never be known, of course. I will try again to contact the McCahan family. Others have tried to find Jane Green and perhaps she will remain anonymous but I will be satisfied with trying. In the meantime, I am finding the research for Brandywine, Quakers, and the history of colonial Pennsylvania to be very interesting and I've only just begun. Thanks again Joyce -----Original Message----- From: Ginni Morgan Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 7:07 PM To: PA-OLD-CHESTER@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Jane Green Joyce Please do not completely discount the Quaker origin story. Jane may have given water to wounded soldiers in her own family's farmyard as at least one story I've found indicates other Quakers did. It's awfully hard to ignore the wounded when they're right outside your door. Her age wouldn't have been a problem under those circumstances. Certainly, I don't think she would have been sent out onto the battlefield itself at the age of eight, but right around the house is a good possibility. The ban on all activity that could be construed as support for fighting may have been honored almost as much in the breach as in the observance. This was a matter of individual conscience in a lot of places. And there were Quakers who felt that they had to fight and that their faith allowed them to do so under certain circumstances. And some Quakers did file claims for reimbursement for property taken. Keep in mind that being disowned in the Quaker context did not necessarily mean shunning as practiced in some other religious groups. It meant that you could no longer speak in meeting and no further record was kept of you until you repented of your error and were accepted back into meeting. In other words, you weren't a member of meeting, but you still existed as a resident of the community. As for the relationship to Gen. Nathaniel Greene, that is probably wishful thinking as he was from Rhode Island, not Pennsylvania. I'm not sure about Col. John Greene, I think he was from Virginia. Of I were you, I'd check every Green/e within the bounds of Birmingham township and the immediately surrounding townships, whether Quaker or not. This will include checking areas that are now Delaware County and south across the state line into Delaware. Keep in mind that the Battle of the Brandywine was fought over an are that extended from Birmingham meeting house down to Chadd's Ford which is less than a mile from the state line. The Quaker records are the best, but other churches do have some existing records for that period. Happing hunting! Ginni Morgan >>> Joyce Doty <kjd34@cox.net> 4/10/12 11:43 AM >>> Thanks for all your great information. I don't have any official documentation for the birth of Jane Green or her marriage to Patrick McCahan ... and I realize my secondary sources may be suspect. The sources I have are: one family member's 20 year old research, two McCahan websites and LDS records plus some conflicting Ancestry.com information from other Public Members. 1810 Census records show Patrick McCahan and family in Mifflin, PA. ... Jane McCahan is named in the Miflin 1830 census after Patrick died in 1826. www.mccahan.org and www.mccahan.com It seems that the specific birth date and marriage date, if accurate, must be recorded somewhere. My thinking is that if there are no church records for Jane Green's birth date perhaps her family was not affiliated with a church. But then I don't know how extensive PA church records were at that time. I hadn't considered Quaker pacifism which would affect the claim of Jane Green bringing water to soldiers on the battlefield at Brandywine if she were Quaker ... plus she was quite young to be doing this but not out of the question. I am trying to sort out the information in Robert Green's Will which does correspond with the Robert Green that I have as a possible link. However, the same problem exists with both references ... His granddaughter Jane (Sarah's daughter, spouse Neild) would not have the surname Green. I am checking on the Green names from the 1765 Chester Archives as well from the 1790 Census. Not sure where to find the best information ... LDS does have most of the names. Chester County US GenWeb Archives and PA Roots Chester County have so much information that I have a great deal of reading to do. I am interested in all phases of colonial life in Pennsylvania even if I don't find my Jane Green. I have other ancestors to look up in PA ... and would appreciate receiving any references for valid research. Thanks again Joyce Doty -----Original Message----- From: Sandra Ferguson Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 11:10 AM To: Joyce Doty ; PA-OLD-CHESTER@rootsweb.com Subject: Jane Green It's always a help if you will include your sources for information given, as they often are an indication as to where we should be looking for info to help you...plus, the type of documentation is essential to know how much credence to give things.....if found secondary in a county history or family bio, then they are only secondary and as such not acceptable as fact. However, if they were found primary records.....a book of marriages and births, wills, land records, etc then they can be accepted as factual, and you'll know to set aside anything found that doesn't fit in with the provable dates.. I checked the book, THE WELCOME CLAIMANTS PROVED, DISPROVED AND DOUBTFUL, by the Welcome Society, and the following is the only Green/Greene that is a proven passenger aboard the Welcome; "Bartholomew Green is a proven passenger, as his name is listed in the Philadelphia Arrivals, where he is named as a servant to Richard Townsend, who was himself a servant of the Society of Free Traders. It would appear probable that Green was a mechanic of some kind. No further trace of him has been found and he may have returned to England." I'm sure you know that the passengers who sailed on the Welcome were, in all probability ALL Quakers....so, if the family were Quakers, they were not allowed to give aid, in any way, to either side of a battle. They even forbad the use of the meeting houses as hospitals, and to even mention any sort of troop movement to anyone,could be cause for disownment. So, they would not have been out on the battle field, helping soldiers. Their pacifism would not allow it. Thus, if Jane did do this, then she wasn't a Quaker, making it not likely that they were descended from the only Green to arrive with Penn. And, if born in 1769, she would have been mighty young to be on a battlefield...the battle was in 1777, making her only 8 years old. I checked the wills for the area and neither James or Joseph Green left any sort of will or set of adm. papers....I was hoping they might include a daughter named Jane, but no luck. Nothing for McCahan/McCahen either. I did find this will, mentioning a Jane Green; GREEN, ROBERT. Birmingham.April 29, 1777. May 28, 1783.To son Daniel part of my land in Birmingham and Concord containing 185 acres and £50. To son Robert all remainder of real estate. To daughter Rachel Pritchet £45. To daughter Rebecca Regester £50. To daughter Margaret Chalfant £3 per year during life to be paid by son Robert and at her decease to grandson Robert Chalfant £5. To the remainder of daughter Margaret's children 20 shillings each, Thomas, Rachel, Abel, David, George, Jesse, Mary and Martha. To daughter Sarah Neild £2.17 yearly during life, to be paid by son Daniel, and at her death to grandson Robert Neild £5, and to the remainder of said daughter's children, Rachel, Elizabeth, Elias, Jane, Nathan, William and Benjamin 20 shillings each. Remainder to son Robert, also executor.Wit: Job Mercer, Martha Newlin, Nathaniel Newlin. also this one, but it is after her supposed marriage date....it is the same Jane in Robert's will, above, and if after her marriage she would be listed with her married name. GREEN, JANE, relict of Abel GREEN, Edgmont, December'd.March 17, 1796 - December 25, 1797.Daughters Lydia MINSHALL, Esther McGOWING, Jane BAKER, Sarah SMEDLY, and Margret BURNS, granddaughters Jane GREEN, daughter of Robert GREEN, Jane GREEN daughter of Abel GREEN, Abigail BAKER and Jane BAKER, daughter in law Hannah, son Daniel REGISTER, sons Abel, Robert and George. Exrs: Son Daniel REGISTER and two sons in law Edward BAKER and Daniel McGOWING. Wits: Robert GREE N, Ann YARNALL and George RUSSELL. #117. The 1765 Chester Archives include the following Greens that were there in that year....if Jane were born in 1769, in Chester Co, it's a fair bet that one of these may have been her father ;....I'll include them all, and where they lived; Abel, Edgmont ; Edward....Thornbury ; George, East Caln ; Isaac East caln ; Jno Chester ' Jos'h East Caln ; Robert Kennett ; Robert Birmingham ; Robert Jr Concord; Robert Sr Concord; Sarah Concord; Thomas Edgmont; Thomas East Caln (single man); Thomas jr East Caln; William W. Fallowfield; William East Caln; Good luck. Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Doty" <kjd34@cox.net> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 10:45 AM Subject: [PaOldC] Looking for parents of Jane Green b. 4 Dec 1769,Chester County I am looking for the parents of Jane Green/e, my 3rd great-grandmother, born 4 Dec 1769 in Chester County, married Patrick McCahan/McCahen 15 Jun 1795 in Chester County and moved to Licking Creek, Juniata County in 1805/1806. One family genealogist has her grandparents as Robert Green and Rachel Vernon of Chester County with a possible link to one of their daughters (born out of wedlock?), other sources have her parents as Samuel Green and Rachel Unknown of Bucks County but there is no Jane in their list of children. The following paragraph is from mccahan.org. If Jane at age 8 brought water to soldiers at the battle of Brandywine, she probably lived close by. I have found, through your links, James Green and Joseph Green living in Brandywine Twp, Census 1790 but no Jane Green. Any information will be appreciated ... thank you. Joyce Doty “Jane Greene was born December 4, 1769 in Chester County, PA. Her ancestors came to America from Radnorshire, Wales in 1682 with William Penn on his first voyage to America. She was a relative of John and Nathaniel Greene who both served under Washington during the Battle of Brandywine. As a girl she assisted in carrying water for the wounded who fell in that battle. She also administered to their needs after the war closed. Jane Greene married Patrick McCahan June 15, 1795. They first resided in Chester County, Pa. When emigration started westward in Pennsylvania they landed in Juniata County about 1805 or 1806.” ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -----Original Message----- From: Sandra Ferguson Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 11:10 AM To: Joyce Doty ; PA-OLD-CHESTER@rootsweb.com Subject: Jane Green It's always a help if you will include your sources for information given, as they often are an indication as to where we should be looking for info to help you...plus, the type of documentation is essential to know how much credence to give things.....if found secondary in a county history or family bio, then they are only secondary and as such not acceptable as fact. However, if they were found primary records.....a book of marriages and births, wills, land records, etc then they can be accepted as factual, and you'll know to set aside anything found that doesn't fit in with the provable dates.. I checked the book, THE WELCOME CLAIMANTS PROVED, DISPROVED AND DOUBTFUL, by the Welcome Society, and the following is the only Green/Greene that is a proven passenger aboard the Welcome; "Bartholomew Green is a proven passenger, as his name is listed in the Philadelphia Arrivals, where he is named as a servant to Richard Townsend, who was himself a servant of the Society of Free Traders. It would appear probable that Green was a mechanic of some kind. No further trace of him has been found and he may have returned to England." I'm sure you know that the passengers who sailed on the Welcome were, in all proba bility ALL Quakers....so, if the family were Quakers, they were not allowed to give aid, in any way, to either side of a battle. They even forbad the use of the meeting houses as hospitals, and to even mention any sort of troop movement to anyone,could be cause for disownment. So, they would not have been out on the battle field, helping soldiers. Their pacifism would not allow it. Thus, if Jane did do this, then she wasn't a Quaker, making it not likely that they were descended from the only Green to arrive with Penn. And, if born in 1769, she would have been mighty young to be on a battlefield...the battle was in 1777, making her only 8 years old. I checked the wills for the area and neither James or Joseph Green left any sort of will or set of adm. papers....I was hoping they might include a daughter named Jane, but no luck. Nothing for McCahan/McCahen either. I did find this will, mentioning a Jane Green; GREEN, ROBERT. Birmingham.April 29, 1777. May 28, 1783.To son Daniel part of my land in Birmingham and Concord containing 185 acres and £50. To son Robert all remainder of real estate. To daughter Rachel Pritchet £45. To daughter Rebecca Regester £50. To daughter Margaret Chalfant £3 per year during life to be paid by son Robert and at her decease to grandson Robert Chalfant £5. To the remainder of daughter Margaret's children 20 shillings each, Thomas, Rachel, Abel, David, George, Jesse, Mary and Martha. To daughter Sarah Neild £2.17 yearly during life, to be paid by son Daniel, and at her death to grandson Robert Neild £5, and to the remainder of said daughter's children, Rachel, Elizabeth, Elias, Jane, Nathan, William and Benjamin 20 shillings each. Remainder to son Robert, also executor.Wit: Job Mercer, Martha Newlin, Nathaniel Newlin. also this one, but it is after her supposed marriage date....it is the same Jane in Robert's will, above, and if after her marriage she would be listed with her married name. GREEN, JANE, relict of Abel GREEN, Edgmont, December'd.March 17, 1796 - December 25, 1797.Daughters Lydia MINSHALL, Esther McGOWING, Jane BAKER, Sarah SMEDLY, and Margret BURNS, granddaughters Jane GREEN, daughter of Robert GREEN, Jane GREEN daughter of Abel GREEN, Abigail BAKER and Jane BAKER, daughter in law Hannah, son Daniel REGISTER, sons Abel, Robert and George. Exrs: Son Daniel REGISTER and two sons in law Edward BAKER and Daniel McGOWING. Wits: Robert GREEN, Ann YARNALL and George RUSSELL. #117. The 1765 Chester Archives include the following Greens that were there in that year....if Jane were born in 1769, in Chester Co, it's a fair bet that one of these may have been her father ;....I'll include them all, and where they lived; Abel, Edgmont ; Edward....Thornbury ; George, East Caln ; Isaac East caln ; Jno Chester ' Jos'h East Caln ; Robert Kennett ; Robert Birmingham ; Robert Jr Concord; Robert Sr Concord; Sarah Concord; Thomas Edgmont; Thomas East Caln (single man); Thomas jr East Caln; William W. Fallowfield; William East Caln; Good luck. Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Doty" <kjd34@cox.net> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 10:45 AM Subject: [PaOldC] Looking for parents of Jane Green b. 4 Dec 1769,Chester County I am looking for the parents of Jane Green/e, my 3rd great-grandmother, born 4 Dec 1769 in Chester County, married Patrick McCahan/McCahen 15 Jun 1795 in Chester County and moved to Licking Creek, Juniata County in 1805/1806. One family genealogist has her grandparents as Robert Green and Rachel Vernon of Chester County with a possible link to one of their daughters (born out of wedlock?), other sources have her parents as Samuel Green and Rachel Unknown of Bucks County but there is no Jane in their list of children. The following paragraph is from mccahan.org. If Jane at age 8 brought water to soldiers at the battle of Brandywine, she probably lived close by. I have found, through your links, James Green and Joseph Green living in Brandywine Twp, Census 1790 but no Jane Green. Any information will be appreciated ... thank you. Joyce Doty “Jane Greene was born December 4, 1769 in Chester County, PA. Her ancestors came to America from Radnorshire, Wales in 1682 with William Penn on his first voyage to America. She was a relative of John and Nathaniel Greene who both served under Washington during the Battle of Brandywine. As a girl she assisted in carrying water for the wounded who fell in that battle. She also administered to their needs after the war closed. Jane Greene married Patrick McCahan June 15, 1795. They first resided in Chester County, Pa. When emigration started westward in Pennsylvania they landed in Juniata County about 1805 or 1806.” ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.929 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4924 - Release Date: 04/09/12 02:34:00 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). 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Joyce Please do not completely discount the Quaker origin story. Jane may have given water to wounded soldiers in her own family's farmyard as at least one story I've found indicates other Quakers did. It's awfully hard to ignore the wounded when they're right outside your door. Her age wouldn't have been a problem under those circumstances. Certainly, I don't think she would have been sent out onto the battlefield itself at the age of eight, but right around the house is a good possibility. The ban on all activity that could be construed as support for fighting may have been honored almost as much in the breach as in the observance. This was a matter of individual conscience in a lot of places. And there were Quakers who felt that they had to fight and that their faith allowed them to do so under certain circumstances. And some Quakers did file claims for reimbursement for property taken. Keep in mind that being disowned in the Quaker context did not necessarily mean shunning as practiced in some other religious groups. It meant that you could no longer speak in meeting and no further record was kept of you until you repented of your error and were accepted back into meeting. In other words, you weren't a member of meeting, but you still existed as a resident of the community. As for the relationship to Gen. Nathaniel Greene, that is probably wishful thinking as he was from Rhode Island, not Pennsylvania. I'm not sure about Col. John Greene, I think he was from Virginia. Of I were you, I'd check every Green/e within the bounds of Birmingham township and the immediately surrounding townships, whether Quaker or not. This will include checking areas that are now Delaware County and south across the state line into Delaware. Keep in mind that the Battle of the Brandywine was fought over an are that extended from Birmingham meeting house down to Chadd's Ford which is less than a mile from the state line. The Quaker records are the best, but other churches do have some existing records for that period. Happing hunting! Ginni Morgan >>> Joyce Doty <kjd34@cox.net> 4/10/12 11:43 AM >>> Thanks for all your great information. I don't have any official documentation for the birth of Jane Green or her marriage to Patrick McCahan ... and I realize my secondary sources may be suspect. The sources I have are: one family member's 20 year old research, two McCahan websites and LDS records plus some conflicting Ancestry.com information from other Public Members. 1810 Census records show Patrick McCahan and family in Mifflin, PA. ... Jane McCahan is named in the Miflin 1830 census after Patrick died in 1826. www.mccahan.org and www.mccahan.com It seems that the specific birth date and marriage date, if accurate, must be recorded somewhere. My thinking is that if there are no church records for Jane Green's birth date perhaps her family was not affiliated with a church. But then I don't know how extensive PA church records were at that time. I hadn't considered Quaker pacifism which would affect the claim of Jane Green bringing water to soldiers on the battlefield at Brandywine if she were Quaker ... plus she was quite young to be doing this but not out of the question. I am trying to sort out the information in Robert Green's Will which does correspond with the Robert Green that I have as a possible link. However, the same problem exists with both references ... His granddaughter Jane (Sarah's daughter, spouse Neild) would not have the surname Green. I am checking on the Green names from the 1765 Chester Archives as well from the 1790 Census. Not sure where to find the best information ... LDS does have most of the names. Chester County US GenWeb Archives and PA Roots Chester County have so much information that I have a great deal of reading to do. I am interested in all phases of colonial life in Pennsylvania even if I don't find my Jane Green. I have other ancestors to look up in PA ... and would appreciate receiving any references for valid research. Thanks again Joyce Doty -----Original Message----- From: Sandra Ferguson Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 11:10 AM To: Joyce Doty ; PA-OLD-CHESTER@rootsweb.com Subject: Jane Green It's always a help if you will include your sources for information given, as they often are an indication as to where we should be looking for info to help you...plus, the type of documentation is essential to know how much credence to give things.....if found secondary in a county history or family bio, then they are only secondary and as such not acceptable as fact. However, if they were found primary records.....a book of marriages and births, wills, land records, etc then they can be accepted as factual, and you'll know to set aside anything found that doesn't fit in with the provable dates.. I checked the book, THE WELCOME CLAIMANTS PROVED, DISPROVED AND DOUBTFUL, by the Welcome Society, and the following is the only Green/Greene that is a proven passenger aboard the Welcome; "Bartholomew Green is a proven passenger, as his name is listed in the Philadelphia Arrivals, where he is named as a servant to Richard Townsend, who was himself a servant of the Society of Free Traders. It would appear probable that Green was a mechanic of some kind. No further trace of him has been found and he may have returned to England." I'm sure you know that the passengers who sailed on the Welcome were, in all probability ALL Quakers....so, if the family were Quakers, they were not allowed to give aid, in any way, to either side of a battle. They even forbad the use of the meeting houses as hospitals, and to even mention any sort of troop movement to anyone,could be cause for disownment. So, they would not have been out on the battle field, helping soldiers. Their pacifism would not allow it. Thus, if Jane did do this, then she wasn't a Quaker, making it not likely that they were descended from the only Green to arrive with Penn. And, if born in 1769, she would have been mighty young to be on a battlefield...the battle was in 1777, making her only 8 years old. I checked the wills for the area and neither James or Joseph Green left any sort of will or set of adm. papers....I was hoping they might include a daughter named Jane, but no luck. Nothing for McCahan/McCahen either. I did find this will, mentioning a Jane Green; GREEN, ROBERT. Birmingham.April 29, 1777. May 28, 1783.To son Daniel part of my land in Birmingham and Concord containing 185 acres and £50. To son Robert all remainder of real estate. To daughter Rachel Pritchet £45. To daughter Rebecca Regester £50. To daughter Margaret Chalfant £3 per year during life to be paid by son Robert and at her decease to grandson Robert Chalfant £5. To the remainder of daughter Margaret's children 20 shillings each, Thomas, Rachel, Abel, David, George, Jesse, Mary and Martha. To daughter Sarah Neild £2.17 yearly during life, to be paid by son Daniel, and at her death to grandson Robert Neild £5, and to the remainder of said daughter's children, Rachel, Elizabeth, Elias, Jane, Nathan, William and Benjamin 20 shillings each. Remainder to son Robert, also executor.Wit: Job Mercer, Martha Newlin, Nathaniel Newlin. also this one, but it is after her supposed marriage date....it is the same Jane in Robert's will, above, and if after her marriage she would be listed with her married name. GREEN, JANE, relict of Abel GREEN, Edgmont, December'd.March 17, 1796 - December 25, 1797.Daughters Lydia MINSHALL, Esther McGOWING, Jane BAKER, Sarah SMEDLY, and Margret BURNS, granddaughters Jane GREEN, daughter of Robert GREEN, Jane GREEN daughter of Abel GREEN, Abigail BAKER and Jane BAKER, daughter in law Hannah, son Daniel REGISTER, sons Abel, Robert and George. Exrs: Son Daniel REGISTER and two sons in law Edward BAKER and Daniel McGOWING. Wits: Robert GREE N, Ann YARNALL and George RUSSELL. #117. The 1765 Chester Archives include the following Greens that were there in that year....if Jane were born in 1769, in Chester Co, it's a fair bet that one of these may have been her father ;....I'll include them all, and where they lived; Abel, Edgmont ; Edward....Thornbury ; George, East Caln ; Isaac East caln ; Jno Chester ' Jos'h East Caln ; Robert Kennett ; Robert Birmingham ; Robert Jr Concord; Robert Sr Concord; Sarah Concord; Thomas Edgmont; Thomas East Caln (single man); Thomas jr East Caln; William W. Fallowfield; William East Caln; Good luck. Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Doty" <kjd34@cox.net> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 10:45 AM Subject: [PaOldC] Looking for parents of Jane Green b. 4 Dec 1769,Chester County I am looking for the parents of Jane Green/e, my 3rd great-grandmother, born 4 Dec 1769 in Chester County, married Patrick McCahan/McCahen 15 Jun 1795 in Chester County and moved to Licking Creek, Juniata County in 1805/1806. One family genealogist has her grandparents as Robert Green and Rachel Vernon of Chester County with a possible link to one of their daughters (born out of wedlock?), other sources have her parents as Samuel Green and Rachel Unknown of Bucks County but there is no Jane in their list of children. The following paragraph is from mccahan.org. If Jane at age 8 brought water to soldiers at the battle of Brandywine, she probably lived close by. I have found, through your links, James Green and Joseph Green living in Brandywine Twp, Census 1790 but no Jane Green. Any information will be appreciated ... thank you. Joyce Doty “Jane Greene was born December 4, 1769 in Chester County, PA. Her ancestors came to America from Radnorshire, Wales in 1682 with William Penn on his first voyage to America. She was a relative of John and Nathaniel Greene who both served under Washington during the Battle of Brandywine. As a girl she assisted in carrying water for the wounded who fell in that battle. She also administered to their needs after the war closed. Jane Greene married Patrick McCahan June 15, 1795. They first resided in Chester County, Pa. When emigration started westward in Pennsylvania they landed in Juniata County about 1805 or 1806.” ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -----Original Message----- From: Sandra Ferguson Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 11:10 AM To: Joyce Doty ; PA-OLD-CHESTER@rootsweb.com Subject: Jane Green It's always a help if you will include your sources for information given, as they often are an indication as to where we should be looking for info to help you...plus, the type of documentation is essential to know how much credence to give things.....if found secondary in a county history or family bio, then they are only secondary and as such not acceptable as fact. However, if they were found primary records.....a book of marriages and births, wills, land records, etc then they can be accepted as factual, and you'll know to set aside anything found that doesn't fit in with the provable dates.. I checked the book, THE WELCOME CLAIMANTS PROVED, DISPROVED AND DOUBTFUL, by the Welcome Society, and the following is the only Green/Greene that is a proven passenger aboard the Welcome; "Bartholomew Green is a proven passenger, as his name is listed in the Philadelphia Arrivals, where he is named as a servant to Richard Townsend, who was himself a servant of the Society of Free Traders. It would appear probable that Green was a mechanic of some kind. No further trace of him has been found and he may have returned to England." I'm sure you know that the passengers who sailed on the Welcome were, in all proba bility ALL Quakers....so, if the family were Quakers, they were not allowed to give aid, in any way, to either side of a battle. They even forbad the use of the meeting houses as hospitals, and to even mention any sort of troop movement to anyone,could be cause for disownment. So, they would not have been out on the battle field, helping soldiers. Their pacifism would not allow it. Thus, if Jane did do this, then she wasn't a Quaker, making it not likely that they were descended from the only Green to arrive with Penn. And, if born in 1769, she would have been mighty young to be on a battlefield...the battle was in 1777, making her only 8 years old. I checked the wills for the area and neither James or Joseph Green left any sort of will or set of adm. papers....I was hoping they might include a daughter named Jane, but no luck. Nothing for McCahan/McCahen either. I did find this will, mentioning a Jane Green; GREEN, ROBERT. Birmingham.April 29, 1777. May 28, 1783.To son Daniel part of my land in Birmingham and Concord containing 185 acres and £50. To son Robert all remainder of real estate. To daughter Rachel Pritchet £45. To daughter Rebecca Regester £50. To daughter Margaret Chalfant £3 per year during life to be paid by son Robert and at her decease to grandson Robert Chalfant £5. To the remainder of daughter Margaret's children 20 shillings each, Thomas, Rachel, Abel, David, George, Jesse, Mary and Martha. To daughter Sarah Neild £2.17 yearly during life, to be paid by son Daniel, and at her death to grandson Robert Neild £5, and to the remainder of said daughter's children, Rachel, Elizabeth, Elias, Jane, Nathan, William and Benjamin 20 shillings each. Remainder to son Robert, also executor.Wit: Job Mercer, Martha Newlin, Nathaniel Newlin. also this one, but it is after her supposed marriage date....it is the same Jane in Robert's will, above, and if after her marriage she would be listed with her married name. GREEN, JANE, relict of Abel GREEN, Edgmont, December'd.March 17, 1796 - December 25, 1797.Daughters Lydia MINSHALL, Esther McGOWING, Jane BAKER, Sarah SMEDLY, and Margret BURNS, granddaughters Jane GREEN, daughter of Robert GREEN, Jane GREEN daughter of Abel GREEN, Abigail BAKER and Jane BAKER, daughter in law Hannah, son Daniel REGISTER, sons Abel, Robert and George. Exrs: Son Daniel REGISTER and two sons in law Edward BAKER and Daniel McGOWING. Wits: Robert GREEN, Ann YARNALL and George RUSSELL. #117. The 1765 Chester Archives include the following Greens that were there in that year....if Jane were born in 1769, in Chester Co, it's a fair bet that one of these may have been her father ;....I'll include them all, and where they lived; Abel, Edgmont ; Edward....Thornbury ; George, East Caln ; Isaac East caln ; Jno Chester ' Jos'h East Caln ; Robert Kennett ; Robert Birmingham ; Robert Jr Concord; Robert Sr Concord; Sarah Concord; Thomas Edgmont; Thomas East Caln (single man); Thomas jr East Caln; William W. Fallowfield; William East Caln; Good luck. Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Doty" <kjd34@cox.net> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 10:45 AM Subject: [PaOldC] Looking for parents of Jane Green b. 4 Dec 1769,Chester County I am looking for the parents of Jane Green/e, my 3rd great-grandmother, born 4 Dec 1769 in Chester County, married Patrick McCahan/McCahen 15 Jun 1795 in Chester County and moved to Licking Creek, Juniata County in 1805/1806. One family genealogist has her grandparents as Robert Green and Rachel Vernon of Chester County with a possible link to one of their daughters (born out of wedlock?), other sources have her parents as Samuel Green and Rachel Unknown of Bucks County but there is no Jane in their list of children. The following paragraph is from mccahan.org. If Jane at age 8 brought water to soldiers at the battle of Brandywine, she probably lived close by. I have found, through your links, James Green and Joseph Green living in Brandywine Twp, Census 1790 but no Jane Green. Any information will be appreciated ... thank you. Joyce Doty “Jane Greene was born December 4, 1769 in Chester County, PA. Her ancestors came to America from Radnorshire, Wales in 1682 with William Penn on his first voyage to America. She was a relative of John and Nathaniel Greene who both served under Washington during the Battle of Brandywine. As a girl she assisted in carrying water for the wounded who fell in that battle. She also administered to their needs after the war closed. Jane Greene married Patrick McCahan June 15, 1795. They first resided in Chester County, Pa. When emigration started westward in Pennsylvania they landed in Juniata County about 1805 or 1806.” ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.929 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4924 - Release Date: 04/09/12 02:34:00 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). 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Thanks for all your great information. I don't have any official documentation for the birth of Jane Green or her marriage to Patrick McCahan ... and I realize my secondary sources may be suspect. The sources I have are: one family member's 20 year old research, two McCahan websites and LDS records plus some conflicting Ancestry.com information from other Public Members. 1810 Census records show Patrick McCahan and family in Mifflin, PA. ... Jane McCahan is named in the Miflin 1830 census after Patrick died in 1826. www.mccahan.org and www.mccahan.com It seems that the specific birth date and marriage date, if accurate, must be recorded somewhere. My thinking is that if there are no church records for Jane Green's birth date perhaps her family was not affiliated with a church. But then I don't know how extensive PA church records were at that time. I hadn't considered Quaker pacifism which would affect the claim of Jane Green bringing water to soldiers on the battlefield at Brandywine if she were Quaker ... plus she was quite young to be doing this but not out of the question. I am trying to sort out the information in Robert Green's Will which does correspond with the Robert Green that I have as a possible link. However, the same problem exists with both references ... His granddaughter Jane (Sarah's daughter, spouse Neild) would not have the surname Green. I am checking on the Green names from the 1765 Chester Archives as well from the 1790 Census. Not sure where to find the best information ... LDS does have most of the names. Chester County US GenWeb Archives and PA Roots Chester County have so much information that I have a great deal of reading to do. I am interested in all phases of colonial life in Pennsylvania even if I don't find my Jane Green. I have other ancestors to look up in PA ... and would appreciate receiving any references for valid research. Thanks again Joyce Doty -----Original Message----- From: Sandra Ferguson Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 11:10 AM To: Joyce Doty ; PA-OLD-CHESTER@rootsweb.com Subject: Jane Green It's always a help if you will include your sources for information given, as they often are an indication as to where we should be looking for info to help you...plus, the type of documentation is essential to know how much credence to give things.....if found secondary in a county history or family bio, then they are only secondary and as such not acceptable as fact. However, if they were found primary records.....a book of marriages and births, wills, land records, etc then they can be accepted as factual, and you'll know to set aside anything found that doesn't fit in with the provable dates.. I checked the book, THE WELCOME CLAIMANTS PROVED, DISPROVED AND DOUBTFUL, by the Welcome Society, and the following is the only Green/Greene that is a proven passenger aboard the Welcome; "Bartholomew Green is a proven passenger, as his name is listed in the Philadelphia Arrivals, where he is named as a servant to Richard Townsend, who was himself a servant of the Society of Free Traders. It would appear probable that Green was a mechanic of some kind. No further trace of him has been found and he may have returned to England." I'm sure you know that the passengers who sailed on the Welcome were, in all probability ALL Quakers....so, if the family were Quakers, they were not allowed to give aid, in any way, to either side of a battle. They even forbad the use of the meeting houses as hospitals, and to even mention any sort of troop movement to anyone,could be cause for disownment. So, they would not have been out on the battle field, helping soldiers. Their pacifism would not allow it. Thus, if Jane did do this, then she wasn't a Quaker, making it not likely that they were descended from the only Green to arrive with Penn. And, if born in 1769, she would have been mighty young to be on a battlefield...the battle was in 1777, making her only 8 years old. I checked the wills for the area and neither James or Joseph Green left any sort of will or set of adm. papers....I was hoping they might include a daughter named Jane, but no luck. Nothing for McCahan/McCahen either. I did find this will, mentioning a Jane Green; GREEN, ROBERT. Birmingham.April 29, 1777. May 28, 1783.To son Daniel part of my land in Birmingham and Concord containing 185 acres and £50. To son Robert all remainder of real estate. To daughter Rachel Pritchet £45. To daughter Rebecca Regester £50. To daughter Margaret Chalfant £3 per year during life to be paid by son Robert and at her decease to grandson Robert Chalfant £5. To the remainder of daughter Margaret's children 20 shillings each, Thomas, Rachel, Abel, David, George, Jesse, Mary and Martha. To daughter Sarah Neild £2.17 yearly during life, to be paid by son Daniel, and at her death to grandson Robert Neild £5, and to the remainder of said daughter's children, Rachel, Elizabeth, Elias, Jane, Nathan, William and Benjamin 20 shillings each. Remainder to son Robert, also executor.Wit: Job Mercer, Martha Newlin, Nathaniel Newlin. also this one, but it is after her supposed marriage date....it is the same Jane in Robert's will, above, and if after her marriage she would be listed with her married name. GREEN, JANE, relict of Abel GREEN, Edgmont, December'd.March 17, 1796 - December 25, 1797.Daughters Lydia MINSHALL, Esther McGOWING, Jane BAKER, Sarah SMEDLY, and Margret BURNS, granddaughters Jane GREEN, daughter of Robert GREEN, Jane GREEN daughter of Abel GREEN, Abigail BAKER and Jane BAKER, daughter in law Hannah, son Daniel REGISTER, sons Abel, Robert and George. Exrs: Son Daniel REGISTER and two sons in law Edward BAKER and Daniel McGOWING. Wits: Robert GREEN, Ann YARNALL and George RUSSELL. #117. The 1765 Chester Archives include the following Greens that were there in that year....if Jane were born in 1769, in Chester Co, it's a fair bet that one of these may have been her father ;....I'll include them all, and where they lived; Abel, Edgmont ; Edward....Thornbury ; George, East Caln ; Isaac East caln ; Jno Chester ' Jos'h East Caln ; Robert Kennett ; Robert Birmingham ; Robert Jr Concord; Robert Sr Concord; Sarah Concord; Thomas Edgmont; Thomas East Caln (single man); Thomas jr East Caln; William W. Fallowfield; William East Caln; Good luck. Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Doty" <kjd34@cox.net> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 10:45 AM Subject: [PaOldC] Looking for parents of Jane Green b. 4 Dec 1769,Chester County I am looking for the parents of Jane Green/e, my 3rd great-grandmother, born 4 Dec 1769 in Chester County, married Patrick McCahan/McCahen 15 Jun 1795 in Chester County and moved to Licking Creek, Juniata County in 1805/1806. One family genealogist has her grandparents as Robert Green and Rachel Vernon of Chester County with a possible link to one of their daughters (born out of wedlock?), other sources have her parents as Samuel Green and Rachel Unknown of Bucks County but there is no Jane in their list of children. The following paragraph is from mccahan.org. If Jane at age 8 brought water to soldiers at the battle of Brandywine, she probably lived close by. I have found, through your links, James Green and Joseph Green living in Brandywine Twp, Census 1790 but no Jane Green. Any information will be appreciated ... thank you. Joyce Doty “Jane Greene was born December 4, 1769 in Chester County, PA. Her ancestors came to America from Radnorshire, Wales in 1682 with William Penn on his first voyage to America. She was a relative of John and Nathaniel Greene who both served under Washington during the Battle of Brandywine. As a girl she assisted in carrying water for the wounded who fell in that battle. She also administered to their needs after the war closed. Jane Greene married Patrick McCahan June 15, 1795. They first resided in Chester County, Pa. When emigration started westward in Pennsylvania they landed in Juniata County about 1805 or 1806.” ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -----Original Message----- From: Sandra Ferguson Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 11:10 AM To: Joyce Doty ; PA-OLD-CHESTER@rootsweb.com Subject: Jane Green It's always a help if you will include your sources for information given, as they often are an indication as to where we should be looking for info to help you...plus, the type of documentation is essential to know how much credence to give things.....if found secondary in a county history or family bio, then they are only secondary and as such not acceptable as fact. However, if they were found primary records.....a book of marriages and births, wills, land records, etc then they can be accepted as factual, and you'll know to set aside anything found that doesn't fit in with the provable dates.. I checked the book, THE WELCOME CLAIMANTS PROVED, DISPROVED AND DOUBTFUL, by the Welcome Society, and the following is the only Green/Greene that is a proven passenger aboard the Welcome; "Bartholomew Green is a proven passenger, as his name is listed in the Philadelphia Arrivals, where he is named as a servant to Richard Townsend, who was himself a servant of the Society of Free Traders. It would appear probable that Green was a mechanic of some kind. No further trace of him has been found and he may have returned to England." I'm sure you know that the passengers who sailed on the Welcome were, in all probability ALL Quakers....so, if the family were Quakers, they were not allowed to give aid, in any way, to either side of a battle. They even forbad the use of the meeting houses as hospitals, and to even mention any sort of troop movement to anyone,could be cause for disownment. So, they would not have been out on the battle field, helping soldiers. Their pacifism would not allow it. Thus, if Jane did do this, then she wasn't a Quaker, making it not likely that they were descended from the only Green to arrive with Penn. And, if born in 1769, she would have been mighty young to be on a battlefield...the battle was in 1777, making her only 8 years old. I checked the wills for the area and neither James or Joseph Green left any sort of will or set of adm. papers....I was hoping they might include a daughter named Jane, but no luck. Nothing for McCahan/McCahen either. I did find this will, mentioning a Jane Green; GREEN, ROBERT. Birmingham.April 29, 1777. May 28, 1783.To son Daniel part of my land in Birmingham and Concord containing 185 acres and £50. To son Robert all remainder of real estate. To daughter Rachel Pritchet £45. To daughter Rebecca Regester £50. To daughter Margaret Chalfant £3 per year during life to be paid by son Robert and at her decease to grandson Robert Chalfant £5. To the remainder of daughter Margaret's children 20 shillings each, Thomas, Rachel, Abel, David, George, Jesse, Mary and Martha. To daughter Sarah Neild £2.17 yearly during life, to be paid by son Daniel, and at her death to grandson Robert Neild £5, and to the remainder of said daughter's children, Rachel, Elizabeth, Elias, Jane, Nathan, William and Benjamin 20 shillings each. Remainder to son Robert, also executor.Wit: Job Mercer, Martha Newlin, Nathaniel Newlin. also this one, but it is after her supposed marriage date....it is the same Jane in Robert's will, above, and if after her marriage she would be listed with her married name. GREEN, JANE, relict of Abel GREEN, Edgmont, December'd.March 17, 1796 - December 25, 1797.Daughters Lydia MINSHALL, Esther McGOWING, Jane BAKER, Sarah SMEDLY, and Margret BURNS, granddaughters Jane GREEN, daughter of Robert GREEN, Jane GREEN daughter of Abel GREEN, Abigail BAKER and Jane BAKER, daughter in law Hannah, son Daniel REGISTER, sons Abel, Robert and George. Exrs: Son Daniel REGISTER and two sons in law Edward BAKER and Daniel McGOWING. Wits: Robert GREEN, Ann YARNALL and George RUSSELL. #117. The 1765 Chester Archives include the following Greens that were there in that year....if Jane were born in 1769, in Chester Co, it's a fair bet that one of these may have been her father ;....I'll include them all, and where they lived; Abel, Edgmont ; Edward....Thornbury ; George, East Caln ; Isaac East caln ; Jno Chester ' Jos'h East Caln ; Robert Kennett ; Robert Birmingham ; Robert Jr Concord; Robert Sr Concord; Sarah Concord; Thomas Edgmont; Thomas East Caln (single man); Thomas jr East Caln; William W. Fallowfield; William East Caln; Good luck. Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Doty" <kjd34@cox.net> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 10:45 AM Subject: [PaOldC] Looking for parents of Jane Green b. 4 Dec 1769,Chester County I am looking for the parents of Jane Green/e, my 3rd great-grandmother, born 4 Dec 1769 in Chester County, married Patrick McCahan/McCahen 15 Jun 1795 in Chester County and moved to Licking Creek, Juniata County in 1805/1806. One family genealogist has her grandparents as Robert Green and Rachel Vernon of Chester County with a possible link to one of their daughters (born out of wedlock?), other sources have her parents as Samuel Green and Rachel Unknown of Bucks County but there is no Jane in their list of children. The following paragraph is from mccahan.org. If Jane at age 8 brought water to soldiers at the battle of Brandywine, she probably lived close by. I have found, through your links, James Green and Joseph Green living in Brandywine Twp, Census 1790 but no Jane Green. Any information will be appreciated ... thank you. Joyce Doty “Jane Greene was born December 4, 1769 in Chester County, PA. Her ancestors came to America from Radnorshire, Wales in 1682 with William Penn on his first voyage to America. She was a relative of John and Nathaniel Greene who both served under Washington during the Battle of Brandywine. As a girl she assisted in carrying water for the wounded who fell in that battle. She also administered to their needs after the war closed. Jane Greene married Patrick McCahan June 15, 1795. They first resided in Chester County, Pa. When emigration started westward in Pennsylvania they landed in Juniata County about 1805 or 1806.” ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.929 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4924 - Release Date: 04/09/12 02:34:00

Quite a few of the meeting houses were used, but not necessarily with the okay of the meeting......when asked, and refused permission, the various troops used them anyway. When a congregation is pacifistic there is, literally nothing they could do to prevent it. Some meetings were more strict than others, but I remember reading of a farmer who came into town and casually mentioned some troop movements, and was censured by his meeting.....with the belief that this information could be passed along and used by one side or another. The German Reformed Church in East Vincent and the Zion Lutheran church on Schuylkill road were both used as hospitals after Brandywine, plus private homes, too. Both these churches continued to provide aid to the American troops. Gen. Lafayette was cared for by the Moravians at Bethlehem. and the German 7th day Baptists opened their whole establishment at Ephrata, as a hospital. Birmingham and Tredyffrin twps had the greatest amount of property taken and destroyed, of all the townships. The Quakers, who lived in a portion of the route traveled by the British army, sustained a considerable portion of these community damages. However, it's interesting to note that, in generally, they didn't report their losses to the public authorities, as did the non-Quakers. "The Friends, as a body maintained a position of passive neutrality during the 7 years of war. It was one of the cardinal doctrines of the society to maintain a 'testimony" against all wars, whether called offensive or defensive, and they could not, consistently with these principles. advocate or engage in it or take part in the conduct of governmental affairs where it would be necessary to provide any means to carry it on." This meant refusing to pay taxes, as they would go toward the war effort......this was the same thing that brought them to PA originally...the inability to pay taxes to any government who had a standing army. These were hard times for the Friends, and even George Washington misunderstood the Quaker tenants ,.... when in an area where many Quakers lived, said he was in "enemy territory". I'm sure it took many, many years for the scars to heal between those who remained passive and those who took an active part in the war. It was impossible for many to understand that even though the Quakers weren't "for us', it didn't mean that they were 'against us'. Sandra "Birmingham Meeting House now bears a historical marker mentioning its role as a hospital during the Battle of the Brandywine. "

It's always a help if you will include your sources for information given, as they often are an indication as to where we should be looking for info to help you...plus, the type of documentation is essential to know how much credence to give things.....if found secondary in a county history or family bio, then they are only secondary and as such not acceptable as fact. However, if they were found primary records.....a book of marriages and births, wills, land records, etc then they can be accepted as factual, and you'll know to set aside anything found that doesn't fit in with the provable dates.. I checked the book, THE WELCOME CLAIMANTS PROVED, DISPROVED AND DOUBTFUL, by the Welcome Society, and the following is the only Green/Greene that is a proven passenger aboard the Welcome; "Bartholomew Green is a proven passenger, as his name is listed in the Philadelphia Arrivals, where he is named as a servant to Richard Townsend, who was himself a servant of the Society of Free Traders. It would appear probable that Green was a mechanic of some kind. No further trace of him has been found and he may have returned to England." I'm sure you know that the passengers who sailed on the Welcome were, in all probability ALL Quakers....so, if the family were Quakers, they were not allowed to give aid, in any way, to either side of a battle. They even forbad the use of the meeting houses as hospitals, and to even mention any sort of troop movement to anyone,could be cause for disownment. So, they would not have been out on the battle field, helping soldiers. Their pacifism would not allow it. Thus, if Jane did do this, then she wasn't a Quaker, making it not likely that they were descended from the only Green to arrive with Penn. And, if born in 1769, she would have been mighty young to be on a battlefield...the battle was in 1777, making her only 8 years old. I checked the wills for the area and neither James or Joseph Green left any sort of will or set of adm. papers....I was hoping they might include a daughter named Jane, but no luck. Nothing for McCahan/McCahen either. I did find this will, mentioning a Jane Green; GREEN, ROBERT. Birmingham.April 29, 1777. May 28, 1783.To son Daniel part of my land in Birmingham and Concord containing 185 acres and £50. To son Robert all remainder of real estate. To daughter Rachel Pritchet £45. To daughter Rebecca Regester £50. To daughter Margaret Chalfant £3 per year during life to be paid by son Robert and at her decease to grandson Robert Chalfant £5. To the remainder of daughter Margaret's children 20 shillings each, Thomas, Rachel, Abel, David, George, Jesse, Mary and Martha. To daughter Sarah Neild £2.17 yearly during life, to be paid by son Daniel, and at her death to grandson Robert Neild £5, and to the remainder of said daughter's children, Rachel, Elizabeth, Elias, Jane, Nathan, William and Benjamin 20 shillings each. Remainder to son Robert, also executor.Wit: Job Mercer, Martha Newlin, Nathaniel Newlin. also this one, but it is after her supposed marriage date....it is the same Jane in Robert's will, above, and if after her marriage she would be listed with her married name. GREEN, JANE, relict of Abel GREEN, Edgmont, December'd.March 17, 1796 - December 25, 1797.Daughters Lydia MINSHALL, Esther McGOWING, Jane BAKER, Sarah SMEDLY, and Margret BURNS, granddaughters Jane GREEN, daughter of Robert GREEN, Jane GREEN daughter of Abel GREEN, Abigail BAKER and Jane BAKER, daughter in law Hannah, son Daniel REGISTER, sons Abel, Robert and George. Exrs: Son Daniel REGISTER and two sons in law Edward BAKER and Daniel McGOWING. Wits: Robert GREEN, Ann YARNALL and George RUSSELL. #117. The 1765 Chester Archives include the following Greens that were there in that year....if Jane were born in 1769, in Chester Co, it's a fair bet that one of these may have been her father ;....I'll include them all, and where they lived; Abel, Edgmont ; Edward....Thornbury ; George, East Caln ; Isaac East caln ; Jno Chester ' Jos'h East Caln ; Robert Kennett ; Robert Birmingham ; Robert Jr Concord; Robert Sr Concord; Sarah Concord; Thomas Edgmont; Thomas East Caln (single man); Thomas jr East Caln; William W. Fallowfield; William East Caln; Good luck. Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Doty" <kjd34@cox.net> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 10:45 AM Subject: [PaOldC] Looking for parents of Jane Green b. 4 Dec 1769,Chester County I am looking for the parents of Jane Green/e, my 3rd great-grandmother, born 4 Dec 1769 in Chester County, married Patrick McCahan/McCahen 15 Jun 1795 in Chester County and moved to Licking Creek, Juniata County in 1805/1806. One family genealogist has her grandparents as Robert Green and Rachel Vernon of Chester County with a possible link to one of their daughters (born out of wedlock?), other sources have her parents as Samuel Green and Rachel Unknown of Bucks County but there is no Jane in their list of children. The following paragraph is from mccahan.org. If Jane at age 8 brought water to soldiers at the battle of Brandywine, she probably lived close by. I have found, through your links, James Green and Joseph Green living in Brandywine Twp, Census 1790 but no Jane Green. Any information will be appreciated ... thank you. Joyce Doty “Jane Greene was born December 4, 1769 in Chester County, PA. Her ancestors came to America from Radnorshire, Wales in 1682 with William Penn on his first voyage to America. She was a relative of John and Nathaniel Greene who both served under Washington during the Battle of Brandywine. As a girl she assisted in carrying water for the wounded who fell in that battle. She also administered to their needs after the war closed. Jane Greene married Patrick McCahan June 15, 1795. They first resided in Chester County, Pa. When emigration started westward in Pennsylvania they landed in Juniata County about 1805 or 1806.” ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.929 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4924 - Release Date: 04/09/12 02:34:00

Birmingham Meeting House now bears a historical marker mentioning its role as a hospital during the Battle of the Brandywine. Ginni Morgan >>> Sandra Ferguson <ferg@ntelos.net> 4/9/12 9:10 AM >>> <snip> I'm sure you know that the passengers who sailed on the Welcome were, in all probability ALL Quakers....so, if the family were Quakers, they were not allowed to give aid, in any way, to either side of a battle. They even forbad the use of the meeting houses as hospitals, and to even mention any sort of troop movement to anyone,could be cause for disownment. So, they would not have been out on the battle field, helping soldiers. Their pacifism would not allow it. Thus, if Jane did do this, then she wasn't a Quaker, making it not likely that they were descended from the only Green to arrive with Penn. And, if born in 1769, she would have been mighty young to be on a battlefield...the battle was in 1777, making her only 8 years old. <snip> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication.

I am looking for the parents of Jane Green/e, my 3rd great-grandmother, born 4 Dec 1769 in Chester County, married Patrick McCahan/McCahen 15 Jun 1795 in Chester County and moved to Licking Creek, Juniata County in 1805/1806. One family genealogist has her grandparents as Robert Green and Rachel Vernon of Chester County with a possible link to one of their daughters (born out of wedlock?), other sources have her parents as Samuel Green and Rachel Unknown of Bucks County but there is no Jane in their list of children. The following paragraph is from mccahan.org. If Jane at age 8 brought water to soldiers at the battle of Brandywine, she probably lived close by. I have found, through your links, James Green and Joseph Green living in Brandywine Twp, Census 1790 but no Jane Green. Any information will be appreciated ... thank you. Joyce Doty “Jane Greene was born December 4, 1769 in Chester County, PA. Her ancestors came to America from Radnorshire, Wales in 1682 with William Penn on his first voyage to America. She was a relative of John and Nathaniel Greene who both served under Washington during the Battle of Brandywine. As a girl she assisted in carrying water for the wounded who fell in that battle. She also administered to their needs after the war closed. Jane Greene married Patrick McCahan June 15, 1795. They first resided in Chester County, Pa. When emigration started westward in Pennsylvania they landed in Juniata County about 1805 or 1806.”

Thanks guys I found this at "Descendants of Francis Ganson" web site.It seems it was made to answer my question. RACHEL HOUSEKEEPER: Rachel was 69 when she died and was buried on Oct. 7, 1843 in Cheyney Burial Ground. Cheyney Burial Ground is a beautiful little cemetery situated on a hill slope located about a quarter of a mile north of the Pennsylvania railroad station at Cheyney and about six miles from West Chester. The Cheyney Burial Ground is located just over the line in Thornbury Township, Chester county. It was established by Squire Thomas Cheyney on his own farm land, coming about in this way. The ground is surrounded by a stone wall on all four side and is about a half acre in extent. The front faces the road. It is well kept and in fine condition.1 Lew Smedley aka George

from a lookup; The only mention of this surname in QUAKER MARRIAGE CERTIFICATES OF THE CONCORD MM, by Bjorkman is an Elizabeth, Tennett, who attended 2 marriages in this meeting.... John Pusey and E.lizabeth Painter....1763 and William Hawly and Hannah Taylor...1764

Lew My Chester County map shows the village of Cheyney situated on Cheyney- Thornton Road, just south of Rt 926, East of Westtown. There is a marker on the map labeled Old Cheyney. Maybe this is it, John

Lew, >From Gilbert Cope, I locate it in Thornbury Township, Delaware County - no specific address. John Source: "Genealogy of the Dunwoody and Hood Families...", Gilbert Cope, Tribune Publishing Co., Minneapolis, MN, 1899, p. 15 "Hugh Reed of Thornbury, 'being under weight of years and weakness of body,' made his will dated April 22, 1834, which was proved Aug. 31, 1835.  He mentions his son John, grand daughter Sarah Allison, son in law Curtis Cheyney and his wife Ann, and daughter Martha Woolley.  His executors, Saml Woolley, Curtis Cheyney and William Cheyney were directed to sell the land, about 200 acres in Thornbury, next lands of James Townsend, Hill Brinton and others.  He also mentions his deceased brothers William and John Reed.  Hugh died on the 10th and was buried Aug. 12, 1835, at Cheyney's burial ground, Thornbury." ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Smedley" <smedley.george@att.net> To: "PaOldChester" <pa-old-chester-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 6, 2012 10:17:43 AM Subject: [PaOldC] Cheyney Burial Ground Where is the Cheyney Burial Ground located?   William Chetney and Elizabeth Jones,of Thornbury.Both buried at Cheyney Burial Ground.William Cheyney,b.11-18-1773;d.5-1-1831, was the youngest child of "Squire"Thomas Cheyney,of Revolutionary days.The grandson,Thomas W Cheyney,was likewise known as Squire Cheyney and was a prominent citizen.He was Collector of Internal Revenue for the Government at the time of his death. Lew Smedley aka George     ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message