Hi all ~ I'm sending this to a couple different lists, sorry if you get it more than once. I received an email regarding a website I've never seen or heard about.  (I could be the only one who hasn't heard of it, that's been known to happen!) In part, the email reads, "RedLightGreen has started an excellent site called ArchiveGrid, to aggregate information about collections in archives, museums, etc. It's free through May 31, possibly longer.  You can try it at http://archivegrid.org.   Almost a million collection descriptions are available through this site's search engine."  I have only tried it a couple of times so far, to see what I would get.  For example, I entered a search for "Pennsylvania" and received 82,133 hits!  So I entered Lancaster and got 1015 hits.  I added Quaker to that search and it narrowed it to 53 hits.  It is information on collections etc and where to find them - it is not the actual info.  You might find something interesting here.  I clicked on one of the hits, "Account Books of Little Britain general store 1796-1807".  It tells where to find it as well as contact information, and "the records consist of three account books documenting what is apparently a general store located near Brown's mills, in which Brown was partially a partner. The first volume is a Daybook or Journal ... "It goes into more detail but I didn't type it all here.  I didn't do a search for Chester County yet, but I plan on it, as well as browsing more on Lancaster County.  Looks like a decent site.  Hope it can help someone! Wanda in Lancaster County "A Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at http://www.raogk.org/"

Hello, I am an amateur at researching in old Chester County and I am sure that many of you will know more than I do about my own family! I am hoping you'll share your expertise with me. I am researching my husband's direct line of Anderson. His immigrant ancestor was James Anderson (I have also seen it James E. Anderson) who arrived in Chester County, PA in 1707. The info I have found says he may have arrived in Philadelphia as indentured to the ship's captain and that the Quaker preacher Thomas JERMAN (or JARMAN, or other variant spellings) bought the rights to his services and took him to Chester County. James Anderson was described as tall, red- haired and "the laughing Scot". It's also said that he came with two brothers, George and William Anderson. I can find absolutely no references to the brothers George or William. Can anyone guide me on that? James Anderson eloped with Thomas JERMAN's daughter, Elizabeth. Thomas had planned that Elizabeth would be married to (I think) Enoch WALKER. After Elizabeth married James Anderson, her younger sister Mary married Enoch Walker. The Andersons did not continue with the Quaker faith, but instead were Episcopalian. James and Elizabeth settled across the river from Valley Forge. This is well documented. Their son Patrick and Patrick's son Isaac are also well documented in Chester Co. history. I am interested in Edward, son of James and Elizabeth Jerman Anderson. I have heard that Edward was linked to James through Elizabeth's will. I haven't found a copy of it yet, but that is one of my goals. Can someone tell me where to write for a Chester Co. will dated in the mid-1750s? I don't even have a death date for her yet. Wait, if I don't have a death date for her, maybe the mention of Edward was in Thomas Jerman's will, dated 1740. Has anyone seen this? Are there any early references or records of James Anderson's other children in Chester County? I have no proof, but have seen a list that names them as: Patrick (I have records of him), Thomas, Elizabeth, James, William, George, Margaret and Edward (I have info about him). My husband is part of the Anderson DNA project and through this we have found an exact DNA match with someone researching in North Carolina. I have no knowledge of James Anderson or his sons going that far south. Does anyone else? Well, I am tired and having a hard time keeping my thoughts together now. I'd like to connect with anyone else researching the Andersons and Jermans, and hopefully I'll fill in some more details soon and ask more questions. For now, thanks for taking the time to read all this and hopefully I will hear from some of you with suggestions about where else I might find pertinent info. Laura

I'm still piecing together details on various Jordan lines to sort this out more but I would welcome any details on this John Jordan and Martha Miller. This Martha, daughter of Gayen Miller may offer some interesting leads to my Jordan lines in Cecil County who attended head of Christiana Church in Delaware near Chester County in early to late 1700's. There's at least one John Jordan with land in Cecil County in New Munster by mid 1700s, as well as my Thomas Jordan. I think it's likely I am looking for my Thomas Jordan to be a brother of this John Jordan, if he's related at all. The land records of the Millers and/or New Garden Quakers cite James Steel in Philadelphia as the agent related to some of the land purchases from Penn. This James Steel also is associated with property given to Head of Christiana Presbyterian Church, and has a descendant Ann Steele who marries into my Thomas Jordan line. No one seems to have had much luck connecting these Jordans to the Isle of Wight Quakers or other Jordan lines in VA though the cluster of Thomas and Benjamin Jordans in my line and those lines seems quite curious. Offhand, one of those other lines had a connection I think to NC with a mother who died in Chester County circa 1730, I think Mary Jordan. The Steeles are also closely tied to a Robert Bailey of Sadsbury line I can't place as connected to the Quaker Baileys of Chester. I have Robert Bailey's will, various Steele wills and can't place where Robert came from, born circa 1706 d. 1798. There are close Jordan ties to the Steel family, and Baileys to Steeles, and later connections between some of their descendants to some of the Benjamin Chambers lines realted to Chambersburg that had early Quaker roots around Philadelphia also. But nothing clearly connects my Thomas Jordan or Robert Bailey to Quaker lines despite there also being some of Bailey/Jordan marriages in earlier lines of VA. Some other possible leads on my Robert Bailey could place him as a later immigrant related to Robert Baillie who was a friend of Patrick Hume when both were persecuted in Scotland in mid to late 1600s. That Robert was said to have been planning to immigrate to PA circa 1680s but then was hung, and his son George Baillie married Patrick's daughter Grizel Hume. I'm looking at the possibility that the elder Robert that died may have had children who immigrated, or that his grandchldren could have come over and been parents of my Robert Bailey of Sadsbury. Given a number of marriages from Robert's grandchildren to the Humes lines in PA and the strong Presbyterian ties in Bailey and Steele families I'm not sure there's any connection to the Chester Quaker Baileys, but the Jordans appear to be likely rooted in Jamestown or early VA Quakers and there's a lot of mingling with Bayleys and Browns in Jordan families from 1600's through 1700s. Paxton and Chambersburg area Brown families are also closely married to related families and could have Quaker Brown ties to some of the Nottingham families but that's not clear either. This will suggests that my Thomas Jordan, husband of Margaret Ross, could be a son of a John Jordan: ROSS, THOMAS. London, Britain, yeoman. April 5, 1744. October 31, 1744. B. 170. Provides for wife Jane. To daughter Margaret wife of Thos. Jordan 10 shillings. To daughter Eleanor wife of John Reed £25. To grandson John Jordan and Thomas Jordan, articles named. Thos. Jordan and wife to occupy plantation until grandson John Jordan is of age. Executors: wife and Thos. Jordon. Witnesses: John Alexander, Patrick Miller. Some previous lookups posted covered some Jordans in Chester: IE: JORDAN............. EARLY CHURCH RECORDS OF CHESTER CO. PA. (1) Marriages: NATHANIEL HOULTON of New Garden MM and MARTHA JORDAN, widow of JOHN JORDAN, dau. of JOHN MILLER m.June 10, 1732 at New Garden. (2) Marriages: JOHN JORDAN of Maiden Creek, son of JOHN JORDAN dec'd, and RACHEL JACKSON, dau of JOSEPH of Londongrove m. April 8, 1747. (3) Marriages: SAMUEL NICHOLS of Mill Creek, son of THOMAS, dec'd, and ELIZABETH JORDAN of West Marlborough, dau of JOHN, dec'd m. May 2, 1754 at Newgarden. (4) Certificates of removal, from Newgarden MM, for RACHEL JORDAN, TO Kennett MM Aug. 3, 1782, also a PATIENCE JORDAN to Kennett MM with a MARY JORDAN for all 3 on the same date. There may be an earlier Mary Jordan removed from NC to Chester area closer to 1700, though she may have been remarried already by then, and could have brought Jordan children to Chester area with her. My Jordans were closely affiliated with the Alexanders in Cecil County as they ended up with land in New Munster, but it appears likely they were closer to New Catsle or in Chester before the land in Cecil County in mid 1700s. By late 1700's the Jordan brother Thomas, Benjamin, Hugh and possibly John end up on tax records in Cecil but most of them move to north central or western PA byt the war or just after. As far as Bailys go, I am curous about any possible connections to Robert BAILEY from these Baileys or a William Bailey who owned land near the Millers: BAILY, ISAAC. Marlborough, yeoman. March 6, 1731/2. October 5, 1732. A. 383. Provides for wife Abigail including plantation till eldest child is 21. To son Isaac 1/2 of the tract I live on. To son Joel the other 1/2 of tract - when they are 21. To the child my wife is now big of, £30 when of age. Executors: wife Abigail and brother Daniel Baily. Witnesses: Robert Sharman, Joel Baily, Joshua Johnson.

George, wonder if you have any links on Mary LIGHTFOOT, b. 7 Jan 1916; d. 7 May 1883; m. Thomas Downing abt 1836. She was the daughter of Thomas and Deborah (-?-) Lightfoot; no vitals on them. Can you confirm that parentage and/or shed any light on them? (Had nine children b. between 1837 and 1851....amazingly, have found photos of six of them...plus Mary!)

Mal Andrew Moore,b.6 mo.1688,perhaps a son of James Moore Sr.,of the county of Antrim,Ireland,m.2-27-1715,Margaret Willson,by whom he had children James,Mary,Margaret and Thomas.The mother died and the father came to Pennsylvania,landing at New Castle,Del.,8-3-1723,and bringing a certificate from a meeting held at Ballinacree,in the county of Antrim. Andrew was married a second time,4-24-1725,to Rachel Halliday,and settled in Sadsbury township,on the Octorara Creek.By his second wife he had William,Robert,David,Andrew,Joseph,Robert 2nd,Rachel and Sarah. Andrew Moore and Samuel Miller were leaders in the founding of Sadsbury Meeting.John Moore,b.10-3-1742,son of Andrew and Rachel,m.5-1-1765,Sarah Downing,b.1-3-1749;dau.of William and Ellen Downing,of Bart township. Their son John,b.1-24-1774;m.11-17-1802,Mary Walker,b.5-13-1782;dau.of Asahel Walker and Ann Moore,and had children Asahel,Sarah,John W,Walker, Samuel D,Benjamin,Abraham,Isaac W,Mary Ann and Jacob. I found this letter to Samuel Lightfoot Smedley While examining-some papers of 15 years ago I find some memoranda about Thomas Lightfoot,which I had previously overlooked.Saml.Bewley of Dublin sent me the following. Thomas Lightfoot of Ballykeran,Co. of Westmeath & Sarah his wife camer out of the North of Ireland in 3rd Mo.1694 & had the following children registered in Moate Mg. Elizabeth,born 15th of 1 mo.1695 Sarah, " 29th of 5 mo.1698;d.1702.bur.in Moate. Saml. " 5th of 2 mo.17Ol. Margaret, " 18th of 12mo.1702 Jacob, " 16th of 10mo.1706 Michael Lightfoot, son of Thomas of Ballykeran was married to Mary Daughter of John Newly of Dublin and had children Sarah, born 30th of 4 mo.1707 Ellenor " 16th of 10mo.1708 Mary Newly is also described,as of Waldenstown in the Co.Westmeath in the certificate. William Lightfoot of Ballykeran in the Co.of Westmeath married Isabel Holmes of Lahinchy in the Kings Co.the 24th of 2nd mo.1706,by the marriage certificate it appears that Isabell was a Marks woman (?) as well as Richard and Elizabeth Holmes,The Cert.is duly signed by Thos.Michael,Sarah and Mary Lightfoot:about 1700 James Miller appears to have married Catharine Lightfoot;1715 Joseph Wyley was cleared to marry Abigail Lightfoot. He adds My informant also states "that by referring to the proceedings of Moater Monthly Meeting Thomas Lightfoot appears to have been a well concerned Friend and was employed by the meeting with others to visit Friends fam- ilies on account of Truth and other services from 1695 to 1715. Wm.Lightfoot was also occasionally made use of but the names do not ap- pear after 1715" Very truly (signed) Saml.L.Smedley visit"The George Smedley Homepage" http://smedley.lewis.home.att.net additional photos at http://smedley.george.home.att.net

Do you have any more info on Mary m. James Graham? I'm very interested in the Graham lines in the era and area. This will below relates to the Samuel Miller m 4-29-1732 to Margaret Halliday in the previous Wm Miller posting: HALLIDAY, WILLIAM. New Garden. 4/l/1741. October 1, 1741. B. 91. To daughter Rachel Moore 6 wains cot chairs. To daughter Margaret Miller £5. To daughter Deborah Linley my big pott I brought from Ireland. To daughter in law Mabel Halliday one cow. To son Robert my plantation where I dwell containing 200 acres and remainder of personal estate, he paying above legacies. Executor: son Robert. Witnesses: Mathew Miller, Thos. Hutton, Benj. Fred. The Halliday and Moore names might be of interest for tracking down the "other" John Miller. To confuse things further I might as well bring up the Mary Miller I'm trying to identify who married James Hamilton and had daughters Elizabeth and Jane Hamilton. The daughters married James Humes and William Humes circa 1780s. At that time the Hamiltons were associated with Leacock, thouhg I have notes suggesting earlier associations with I think Conewego Presbyterian, and possibly Middle Octorara. James HAMILTON 1724 - 3 Nov 1807 * BIRTH: 1724, PA * DEATH: 3 Nov 1807 * BURIAL: OLD LEACOCK PRES CHYD, LANCASTER, PA Mary MILLER 1733 - 2 Aug 1798 * BIRTH: 1733 * DEATH: 2 Aug 1798, LANCASTER, PA * BURIAL: OLD LEACOCK PRES CHYD, LANCASTER, PA Family 1 : James HAMILTON * MARRIAGE: 1749, CA 1. William HAMILTON 2. Margaret HAMILTON 3. Jennet (Jane) HAMILTON 4. +Elizabeth HAMILTON JAMES SETTLED IN LEACOCK TOWNSHIP (LANCASTER CO) IN 1760. HE WASPROMINENT IN CIVIC AFFAIRS - OVERSEER OF THE POOR IN 1773 & 1776,APPOINTED CONSTABLE 1779, SUPERVISOR OF ROADS 1781. EGLE'S NOTES &QUERIES, 3D SERIES VOL 3, PG 8 JAMES & MARY WER E MEMBERS OF LEACOCKPRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, LANCASTER CO, PA. Per James C. Humes book on Humes family James Hamilton was a Sherriff. He gave land west of Lancaster to daughter Elizabeth and husband James Humes that he received as a grant as a Revolutionary War officer. Elizabeth and James moved there in 1803. The daughters were married at Trinity Lutheran in Lancaster but it doesn't appear to be a German Miller line. I've looked a little at some of the Jacob Miller lines as they seem close in proximity to some of my lines but it doesn't seem to fit, and I'm at a loss as to why the Hamilton girls married Presbyterian Humes brothers at at Lutheran church. The Hamiltons get very confusing, and that church was actually on land that originally belonged to a James Hamltion, but that appears to be the James Hamilton son of Andrew who were both Lt.Governors and associated with policits in Philadelphia. That Andrew Hamilton line owned the land Lancaster was founded on, and I think also Carlisle, and owned property all over but doesn't appear to be my line. Anyway, I suspect that this below is a later related Miller line to my Mary Miller, and I have some business associations between James Humes, a later James Hamilton and a Miller. Here's a will that could be related to my Humes/Miller/Hamilton line. Note that this will cites something like 12 other children. Those Millers sure did have a lot of kids. This will has a John, and a Moor connection, but is apparently a later generation than the last post was asking about. MILLER, JAMES. Sadsbury. April 1, 1795. September 8, 1795. Provides for wife [not named]. To son John £91, having previously advanced him. To daughter Rachel £226. To daughter Mary £152. To daughter Sarah £222. To son James tract of land and new stone tenement, containing 74 acres [des], being part of the plantation on which I now live, also 6 acres of mountain land. To son William 1/2 of the remainder of my home place, containing 122 acres, also 35 acres of mountain land. To daughter Jane £210. To son Joseph the other 1/2 of home place, and remainder of mountain land, about 12 acres. To son Caleb £469. To son Jesse £500. To daughter Phebe £206. To sons Samuel and Warrick £500 each. Remainder to 12 younger children, Rachel, Mary, Sarah, James, William, Jane, Caleb, Jesse, Phebe, Joseph, Samuel and Warrick. Executors: Wife Phebe, son William. Wit: Robert Moore, Asahel Walker.

I have been thinking about posting this message, but kept putting it off. With this Miller talk, going it now, it seems like a good idea to do it now. I have been looking for John Miller who lived in the Pequea, Salisbury Twp., Lancaster County area. Apparently, John owned land that was in both Lancaster and Chester Counties. John Miller paid tax there in 1724 and 1726. He married Esther Moore and his children were: John m. Margaret Craighead Mary m. James Graham Abigail m. James Bradford Whitehill and John Culbertson. According to the book Two Hundred years of Church History St. John's, Pequea, Protestant Episcopal Church, John was originally a Quaker, son of "Gervin Miller of Kennet" but lost his birthright when he married Esther Moore, a Protestant. I would have thought that John was a son of Gayen Miller except 1- Gayen Miller's son John is listed as being born in 1720 2- John and Esther's daughter Abigail married James Whitehill around 1745. John Miller probably died sometime before 1767. John Culbertson, Abigail's 2nd husband, made a claim on some land around 1763, described as bordering the late John Miller's land and Culbertson died in 1767. John Miller's son, John Miller, esq. lived in East Caln in the 1760s then moved to Philadelphia. His daughter Esther married John Mease and their son was James Mease b. 1771. To add to the confusion, Gayon Miller did have land in the Pequea area, which he left to his sons Benjamin and John. In 1751 there is a listing for Benjamin Miller paying tax in Salisbury and a listing for 3 John Miller's the same year. One John Miller is an innkeeper along with his son. It is good to be sceptical about what one reads without real proof, but I can't help but wonder if the is some grain of truth that John Miller was somehow connected to the Miller Quakers in Chester County, if not through Gayen then through some other Miller family. The only documentation I have is the deed for a acre of land to St. John's between John Miller and his wife Esther and Rev. George Craig, Thomas Haliday, Isaac Richardson, Thomas Dawson, John Cowan, William Darlington, John Douglas and Thomas Douglas, all members of the church. Esther Moore is described in the same article as being the daughter of James Moore, a nobleman of English birth who went to Ireland around 1689 and a few years later came to the US. I have a will belonging to John Moore of Lebanon Twp. Lancaster County in which he leaves half of his plantation to Thomas Morrison of Lebanon Twp. and half to John Miller "living near the english church in Pequea". It doesn't say where the plantation is, but there is a John Moore paying tax in Pequea in 1724, and a James Moore paying taxes there in 1721. Both are listed as non residents. He also mentions his brother Sampson, but there is not mention of a Sampson until 1753 in East Nottingham and I suspect this is not John's brother, but perhaps a nephew. Sampson married Phoebe Gray who was born in 1735 and their children were all born in the 1750s. If anyone can help me untangle all this, I would really appreciate it. Kathryn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mal Humes" <mal3@mal.net> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 10:00 AM Subject: RE: [PaOldC] William Miller of Avondale 1730 > Avondale was named after John and Mary Miller's farm and various Avondale > sites suggest William and Ann Emlen as from that line: > > http://www.avondaleboro.net/history.htm > > "As Avondale is part of two townships, we are also at the juncture of four > major land holdings whose buildings stand today to mark the centers of > those > farm industries. In the south was the property of John and Mary Miller > whose > descendants hold portions of this property at the present time. A part of > the tract held by William Miller, John and Mary's son, was called > "Avondale > Farms" and gave the developing village its name. Mary Miller, after John's > death, purchased a parcel of land in adjoining London Grove which extended > her western boundary and gave control of water power for the family > milling > industry. To the northeast was the Joseph Sharp property of which the > bounty > of its fruit trees gives introduction to the grace and beauty of its manor > house." > > Another also offers some info: > > http://www.livingplaces.com/PA/Chester_County/Avondale_Borough.html > "The borough ... "was called Miller's Run and then Stone Bridge until 1828 > when Jacob Lindley, son of a Quaker minister, opened the Avondale post > office on his farm. It was the name of the house he occupied, and it was > built in 1731 by William Miller, whose father was a founder of New Garden > Friends' Meeting in 1713. During the construction of the farmhouse, > William > Miller won the heart of Ann Emlen, daughter of a wealthy Philadelphia > vintner, whereupon his neighbors said, 'Strike for the moon and you may > bring down a star.' The one-street village was incorporated in 1894 from > parts of New Garden and London Grove Townships." > > I think the IMMIGRATION OF THE IRISH QUAKERS TO PA 1682-1750 book is > probably one of the best references on these families. I've planned to > scan > some of the text from this and had started working on the index and table > of > contents a little. There's a property map there of early lots that shows > multiple lots for John Miller and for Joseph Sharp and depending on which > lots the description of Sharp's lot to the Northeast could fit one of > these > John Miller lots. > > I think there's fairly good documentation there on these lines, as well as > signatues of Gayen and other early Irish Quakers from the area. If I > recall > correctly Gayen and John are thought to be related, and James Miller and > Katherine Lightfoot also likely connect to these families but there's no > clear support of the conenctions other than some will references > suggesting > cousins, I think. I have at least two daughters of James and Katherine > Miller in my tree and I think some others in these lines also though > marriages to Milhous and Huttons. > > It's worth noting that there's some Lightfoot family papers in the > manuscript archives at Swarthmore. They mostly cover someone who I think > is > a sibling of Katherine, Michael Lightfoot, but I suspect they also have > some > interesting info on Katherine's father Thomas Lightfoot. I'm hoping to get > there and copy those and the Shaw manuscripts that include a letter from > Rebecca Lathrip Shaw Hutton, whose portrait is hanging about 10 feet from > me. > > I also found a passing reference to a book written relatively recently > covering Gayen's whole line through the 1900's, available as a Family Tree > Maker Family Archive CD. "The family's 300 year linage may be found in > both > the book, Gayen Miller, an Irish Quaker and his American Descendants, > 1675-1993, by Elmer K. Miller and on the Family Tree Maker CD # 29."" > > Filling in some details from the Irish Quakers book: > > Gayen's children: > James b. 5 Nov 1696 d. 1732m. Rachel Fred > William b. 30 Aub 1698m. Ruth Rowland > Robert b. 3 Mar 1702/03 m. Ruth Haines > Sarah b. 1 Sep 1704 m. Joshua Johnson, b. 1696 > Mary Miller b. 7 Feb 1706/07 m. William Beverly > Patrick Miller b. 28 Dec 1708 > Samuel Miller b. 14 Apr 1711 > Elizabeth Miller b. 7 May 1713 > Joseph Miller b. 1715 > Benjamin Miller b. 1717 > John Miller b. 1720 > George Miller b. 1727 > > > John and Mary (Ignew) Miller had children: > James Miller b. 1693 m. Ann Cain > William Miller b. Apr 1698 m. Ann Emlem > Joseph Miller m. Ann Gilpin > Martha Miller m. John Jordan and Nathaniel Houlton > Elizabeth Miller b. Mar 1703/04 m. William Chambers > Elinor Miller b. Jun 1710 m. Richard Chambers > Susanna Miller b. 1712 m. Joseph Jackson > Sarah Miller m. 1723 to Nehemiah Hutton > Mary Miller m. 1714 to Joseph Hutton > > I left off a bunch of other marriages for Gayen's children. I will try to > get the full info scanned and shared. I'm a bit behind on other projects > at > the moment including scanning about 400 old family postcards dating back > to > 1920's and I'm juggling some partially completed projects on Jones > families, > Cecil County and Head of Christiana Church, and some indexes to other > books > I'm trying to compile to make it easier to do lookups. > > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribing. To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to > PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com > with the single word unsubscribe in the message or subject slot." > > > NO VIRUS WARNINGS - if you are concerned contact me PERSONALLY > ferg@ntelos.net > > Visit the archives for this list to view old postings > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=PA-OLD-CHESTER > If you have ANY problems, do not send them to the list > contact me personally....list manager ferg@ntelos.net > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. 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>According to Cope Catharine Lightfoot married James Miller and she died a few days later. ... >Catharine,m.1700,James Miller and arrived in Phila.in 1729 where she died a few days later. Thanks George, lots of great info there, but I think you're misreading the citation that says that Catherine died a few days after arrival in PA. She was married 29 years earlier by the quote you offered, and that matches what the Irish Quaker book says, which I think is a credible reference. And somewhere I had previously noted that it wasn't a few days. It looked more like about a month and a week after her arrival, though I may have misread something like a probate date. Catherine and James Miller did have at least two daughters, Elizabeth and Sarah per my grandfather's research. More on Elizabeth below as that part may be suspect and not verified. It's "Immigration of the Irish Quakers to Pennsylvania 1682-1750" by Albert Cook Myers (1902, various reprints since including a few online databases) Lydia Milhouse who married into the Hutton line was daughter of John Milhous, son of Thomas Milhous & Sarah Miller, sister of Elizabeth Miller. So apparently Lydia Milhouse and Jesse Hutton were second cousins that married, sharing James and Katherine Miller as great grandparents. Maybe not. I waffle on the e on Milhouse, the records of marriage of a Thomas Milhouse and Sarah Miller at Ulster Province Meeting use the e, the other records in the family in the Irish Quaker book don't, and the book isn't 100% clear that the marriage it documents is the same Thomas and Sarah Milhouse. Also there's a signature as Milhous. I also waffled on Katherine vs. Catherine because my grandfather's records had it spelled with a K but most or all references I've seen spell it as Catherine. I think part of the confusion may come from grandaughter Katherine Hiett/Hiatt. 1 James Miller 1669 - 1749 .... +Catherine Lightfoot 1682 - 1720 ........ 2 Elizabeth Miller 1707 - .............. +Thomas Hiatt 1700 - 1751 ................... 3 Katherine Hiatt 1726 - ......................... +[35] Thomas Hutton 1716 - ............................. 4 [36] Jesse Hutton 1752 - 1811 ................................... +[37] Lydia Millhouse 1758 - ................ 5 [38] Enos Hutton 1783 - 1836 ...................... 6 [57] Jesse Milhous Hutton 1809 - 1878 ....................... 6 [58] Lydia Ann Hutton 1815 - ...................... 6 [59] John Hiett Hutton 1811 - .................... 6 [39] Jesse Millhouse Hutton 1809 - 1886 ........................ 7 [15] Emily Lathrop Hutton 1842 - 1919 .................... +[16] Matthew Henry Dill 1840 - 1906 .............................. 8 [17] Howard Albert Dill - 1941 ................................. +[18] Camilla Louise Walker 1871 - 1910 ................. 5 [44] Joseph Hutton 1791 - ........................ +[45] Margaret Howard Albert Dill was my great grandfather. >Lew Thomas Lightfoot,a highly esteemed minister in the Society of Friends, was born about 1654, The Irish Quaker book cites this as "about 1645," and doesn't mention the name Lew, just Thomas Lightfoot, but otherwise cites word for word what you wrote. This reference cites the Cope Smedley genealogy as the source of that, so I'd like to verify if Cope really says 1654 or 1645. Four other sources are cited and this do reference Catherine as daughter of Thomas Lightfoot but it's not clear where all the children are referenced from as only Michael Lightfoot appears to be cited in Cope's Smedley Gegalogy. Have you by any chance seen the Lightfoot file at Swarthmore? It would appear of interest to you if you're descendant from Michael as that's really what the file is covering. There is another set of papers at the HSP archive: http://www.hsp.org/files/findingaid371lightfoot.pdf This makes it a little clearer that Catherine was a daughter of Thomas from his first wife Mary, placing her as half brother to Michael. Thomas Milhous arrived from Dublin 1729 to New Garden and owned property close to other ancestors of mine such as Joseph Hutton, James Starr, Michael Lightfoot, John Miller - all apparently associated with New Garden Meeting in PA near Kennett Square and New Castle Delaware. Thos Milhous' signature is reproduced in the book, as are many others. Milhous is later cited as one of the first settlers in Great Valley (Pikeland Township, Chester County) circa 1744 and likely associated with Bradford Monthly Meeting and Caln Meeting. Thos Millhous was married to Sarah Miller, daughter of James and Catherine Lightfoot Miller. The younger Milhous children Johh and James were born in Ireland, and Thomas, Robert, Sarah and William were born before they moved from New Garden in 1744. Also noted in records is that Ann Cunningham, unmarried and about 16 years of age "goes over as apprentice or servant" to "Thomas Millhouse" (sic, though he signed his name as Milhous) and his wife, in 1729, and Ann's younger sisters Elizabeth and Mary Cunningham went with her. No other reference to the Cunningham sisters are offered in this book. James and Catherine Miller appear to have possibly arrived two months before the Milhous family, with Catherine noted as a minister of the Society who died 10 Mo. 17, 1729 just a week and a month after their arrival at New Garden. John Miller, possibly father of James, already owned property and New Garden Meeting met at John Miller's house starting in 1712, before the New Garden Meeting house was later built. The other Lightfoot Papers archive is at Swarthmore: http://www.swarthmore.edu/library/friends/rg5.htm Lightfoot Family Papers, 1737-1899. Thomas Lightfoot (1828-1896) was an Indian Agent in southeastern Nebraska during the period of Quaker involvement in President U.S. Grant's "peace policy." He was a birthright Friend,and was appointed Agent to the Great Nehama Reservation in 1869 and served until 1873. His wife, Mary Lightfoot, established a mission school. The Lightfoot Family Papers include correspondence received and sent (drafts) while they were at Great Nehama, as well as business and legal documents, including accounts with the Government, agreements, reports, and several census. Letters sent to Mary Lightfoot from members of the Indian Aid Association document the kinds of assistance and support offered by Philadelphia Friends. The collection also includes papers of other members of the Lightfoot Family. Of special interest is the journal of Mary (Bonsall) Lightfoot (1707-1777), a prominent Quaker minister and the wife of Jacob Lightfoot. It describes her journey to visit meetings in Concord Quarter in 1757. Three other journals (typed copies) have been attributed to Thomas Lightfoot (1727-1793). These accounts document visits to meetings in the mid Atlantic region, New Jersey to Virginia, from 1757 to 1760. A more detailed list of the holdings and some of the family relationships is found here: http://www.swarthmore.edu/library/friends/ead/5184ligh.xml This page below lists a number of listings of children of James and Catherine, some of which include Elizabeth and some that don't,and of course without any sources cited. So it looks like I need to take a closer look at sources referencing Elizabeth. The Irish Quakers book does list a wife of Hiett as Elizabeth but cites no surname and a later arrival at New Garden from a different Meeting. http://www.stefanovich.com/Miller/James_MILLER.html I thouht I recalled a will of James Miller or Catherine Miller citing daughter Lydia Baily, but perhaps it was the daughter in law cited on the page above.

Mal According to Cope Catharine Lightfoot married James Miller and she died a few days later. Lew Thomas Lightfoot,a highly esteemed minister in the Society of Friends, was born about 1654,perhaps in Cambridgeshire,and possibly the son of another Thomas Lightfoot who suffered persecution at Cambridge in 1653 and was a companion of George Whitehead in religious labors.The younger Thomas is also said to have been a native of Settle,in Yorkshire.In 1694 he removed from the north of Ireland to Moate Monthly Meeting in the county of West Meath.The name of his first wife is thought to have been Mary,after whose death he married Sarah Wiley,a widow,about the time of his removal to West Meath.In 1716 he removed to New Garden,Chester Co. Early in 1724 he paid a religious visit to New England and near the close of the year married Margaret,widow of John Blunston,of Darby,to which place he removed.His death occurred 9-4-1725.He had at least nine children. Catharine,m.1700,James Miller and arrived in Phila.in 1729 where she died a few days later. Michael,b.about 1683;m.in Ireland,Mary Newby,dau.of John Newby,of Dublin,and came to New Garden 1712.He was appointed an elder 5-10-1725,and recommended as a minister 2-27-1728.Removing to Phila.in 1743,he became Provincial Treasurer,and died 12-3-1754, while holding that position. William,m.2-24-1706,Isabel Holmes of Lahinchey,Kings Co.,Ireland. He visited his father and relatives in Pa.,in 1725. Abigail,m.1715,in Ireland,Joseph Wiley,and came to Pa.with her father. Elizabeth,b.1-11-1695,6,at Bally Kieran,Co.West Meath;m.2 mo.1717, Arthur Jones,of Merion. Sarah,b.5-29-1698;d.1702. Samuel,b.2-5-1701;m.7-30-1725,at New Garden,Pa.,Mary Head;dau.of Benjamin and Sarah (Abbott) Head.He was a prominent surveyor;d.near Chester,2-26-1777. Margaret,b.12-18-1702;m.12-20-1723,Isaac Starr,of New Garden. Jacob,b.Bally Kieran,10-16-1706,according to Friends' records in Ireland. Jacob Lightfoot,last named,born,according to a family record,near Athlone,Ireland,10-16-1707;m.3-21-1735,at Darby Meeting,Mary Bonsall,b. there,12-21-1707;dau.of Obadiah and Sarah (Bethel) Bonsall,of that place.He took a certificate from New Garden to Chester,dated 1-31-1733, and removed thence,about 1753,to Maiden Creek,Berks Co.,Pa.,where he died 6-17-1781.Mary was a minister among Friends and died at Maiden Creek,8-10-1777.They had issue: Joseph,b.6-30-1736;d.9-27-1784;m.Deborah Hutton. Sarah,b.10-28-1738;d.7 mo.1775;m.Francis Parvin 5-16-1759. Thomas,b.7-21-1742;d.12-24-1821;m.Hannah Wright 5-11-1774. Ann,b.1-3-1745;d.4-17-1807. Grace,b.7-11-1748;d.9-11-1784;m.William Tomlinson 5-12-1773. Joseph Lightfoot,son of Jacob,was born in Chester Twp.,and was married 7-11-1759,at Maiden Creek Meeting,to Deborah Hutton,b.Maiden Creek Twp., 4-26-1737.She was the fifth daughter of Nehemiah Hutton,who with his brothers,Joseph and John,sons of Thomas Hutton,of Carlow,Ireland,came to New Garden;where Nehemiah married Sarah,dau,of John and Mary Miller,also from Ireland,and after some years removed to what is now Berks Co.Joseph and Deborah Lightfoot removed from Maiden Creek to West Marlborough Twp.,Chester Co.,1764,but returned in 1768,and Joseph died 9-27-1784. Their children were: Samuel,b.4-29-1760;d.1-19-1763,at Maiden Creek. Sarah,b.9-8-1761. Deborah,b.4-15-1763;d.5-6-1824;m.William Smedley.She received a certificate from Exeter Monthly Meeting,Berks Co.,to Chester 2-22-1787. Grace,b.10-16-1764,in West Marlborough. Jacob,b.7-9-1766,in same. Mary,b.3-6-1768. Hannah,b.5-18-1770;d.4-17-1775;buried at Maiden Creek. Tamar,b.11-27-1771,took certificate from Exeter,11-28-1792,to Sadsbury,and thence 6-18-1794,to Chester;m.about 1797,Samuel Worrall. Eunice,b.2-12-1774;d.6-17-1778. Abigail,b.7-1-1778(?);d.7-21-1777(?). Eunice,b.3-1-1779;d.10-30-1780. visit"The George Smedley Homepage" http://smedley.lewis.home.att.net additional photos at http://smedley.george.home.att.net

Avondale was named after John and Mary Miller's farm and various Avondale sites suggest William and Ann Emlen as from that line: http://www.avondaleboro.net/history.htm "As Avondale is part of two townships, we are also at the juncture of four major land holdings whose buildings stand today to mark the centers of those farm industries. In the south was the property of John and Mary Miller whose descendants hold portions of this property at the present time. A part of the tract held by William Miller, John and Mary's son, was called "Avondale Farms" and gave the developing village its name. Mary Miller, after John's death, purchased a parcel of land in adjoining London Grove which extended her western boundary and gave control of water power for the family milling industry. To the northeast was the Joseph Sharp property of which the bounty of its fruit trees gives introduction to the grace and beauty of its manor house." Another also offers some info: http://www.livingplaces.com/PA/Chester_County/Avondale_Borough.html "The borough ... "was called Miller's Run and then Stone Bridge until 1828 when Jacob Lindley, son of a Quaker minister, opened the Avondale post office on his farm. It was the name of the house he occupied, and it was built in 1731 by William Miller, whose father was a founder of New Garden Friends' Meeting in 1713. During the construction of the farmhouse, William Miller won the heart of Ann Emlen, daughter of a wealthy Philadelphia vintner, whereupon his neighbors said, 'Strike for the moon and you may bring down a star.' The one-street village was incorporated in 1894 from parts of New Garden and London Grove Townships." I think the IMMIGRATION OF THE IRISH QUAKERS TO PA 1682-1750 book is probably one of the best references on these families. I've planned to scan some of the text from this and had started working on the index and table of contents a little. There's a property map there of early lots that shows multiple lots for John Miller and for Joseph Sharp and depending on which lots the description of Sharp's lot to the Northeast could fit one of these John Miller lots. I think there's fairly good documentation there on these lines, as well as signatues of Gayen and other early Irish Quakers from the area. If I recall correctly Gayen and John are thought to be related, and James Miller and Katherine Lightfoot also likely connect to these families but there's no clear support of the conenctions other than some will references suggesting cousins, I think. I have at least two daughters of James and Katherine Miller in my tree and I think some others in these lines also though marriages to Milhous and Huttons. It's worth noting that there's some Lightfoot family papers in the manuscript archives at Swarthmore. They mostly cover someone who I think is a sibling of Katherine, Michael Lightfoot, but I suspect they also have some interesting info on Katherine's father Thomas Lightfoot. I'm hoping to get there and copy those and the Shaw manuscripts that include a letter from Rebecca Lathrip Shaw Hutton, whose portrait is hanging about 10 feet from me. I also found a passing reference to a book written relatively recently covering Gayen's whole line through the 1900's, available as a Family Tree Maker Family Archive CD. "The family's 300 year linage may be found in both the book, Gayen Miller, an Irish Quaker and his American Descendants, 1675-1993, by Elmer K. Miller and on the Family Tree Maker CD # 29."" Filling in some details from the Irish Quakers book: Gayen's children: James b. 5 Nov 1696 d. 1732m. Rachel Fred William b. 30 Aub 1698m. Ruth Rowland Robert b. 3 Mar 1702/03 m. Ruth Haines Sarah b. 1 Sep 1704 m. Joshua Johnson, b. 1696 Mary Miller b. 7 Feb 1706/07 m. William Beverly Patrick Miller b. 28 Dec 1708 Samuel Miller b. 14 Apr 1711 Elizabeth Miller b. 7 May 1713 Joseph Miller b. 1715 Benjamin Miller b. 1717 John Miller b. 1720 George Miller b. 1727 John and Mary (Ignew) Miller had children: James Miller b. 1693 m. Ann Cain William Miller b. Apr 1698 m. Ann Emlem Joseph Miller m. Ann Gilpin Martha Miller m. John Jordan and Nathaniel Houlton Elizabeth Miller b. Mar 1703/04 m. William Chambers Elinor Miller b. Jun 1710 m. Richard Chambers Susanna Miller b. 1712 m. Joseph Jackson Sarah Miller m. 1723 to Nehemiah Hutton Mary Miller m. 1714 to Joseph Hutton I left off a bunch of other marriages for Gayen's children. I will try to get the full info scanned and shared. I'm a bit behind on other projects at the moment including scanning about 400 old family postcards dating back to 1920's and I'm juggling some partially completed projects on Jones families, Cecil County and Head of Christiana Church, and some indexes to other books I'm trying to compile to make it easier to do lookups.

I am copying here an email from a lady who is looking for a direct male line descendant of the Chester County Woodward family to add to their general Woodward DNA lines. She is offering a complimentary test kit to the first one with an unbroken male Woodward line from Chester County. I understand there is more than one Woodward family from Chester other than the descendants of Richard and Jane Woodward. If you are interested you can sort this out with her. Nadine Holder >As volunteer administrator of Woodward DNA Genealogy, I would like to >invite you to look at my website here - >http://www.mcnerneywinkler.com/Woodward_dna.html and the official >website - >http://www.familytreedna.com/(ohex4gm0wdqubomwub2cwf55)/public/WOODWARD%20Surname%20DNA%20Project/index.aspx > >Viewing at the DNA results chart, you can see that several Woodward family >groups have emerged since our project started in 2005. Your Chester >County, Pennsylvania group is not yet represented, and I would like to >extend an invitation for you to join. Read "About DNA" which is a >non-technical article I wrote for genealogists. It explains why we need a >man with the Woodward name to do a sample Y DNA for the project which >gives us information useful in a genealogical time frame. If you are >interested and know a man in your group who would be willing to >participate, I will offer a complimentary DNA Kit to get the Pennsylvania >group started. > >I look forward to hearing from you. > >Rosemary McNerney Winkler, Volunteer Administrator >Woodward DNA Genealogy

from Futhey and Cope; Gayen Miller and wife Margaret were some of the first settlers in Kennet twp, where he bought land in 1702. Their children were as follows....(your birth dates concure with those in F&C) James m RAchel Fred 4-20-1721 Wm m7-28-1724 to Ruth Rowland Robert m Ruth Haines (settled in E. Caln and had children - Margaret, Solomon, Dorothy, Patience, Hannah, Warwick, Isaac, Jacob, Rebecca, Rachel, Joseph, Hannah (2) RAchel (2), Sarah, Ruth, Benjamin and James (geez, what a load of kiddies) Sarah m Joshua Johnson Mary m Wm Beverly Patrick m 9-5-1735 Patience Haines Samuel m 4-29-1732 to Margaret Halliday Elizabeth m Joseph Dickinson Joseph m 1-18-1738 Jane Kirk Benjamin m 10-7-1738 Martha Walker John m 8-28-1741 Margaret Smith Geo m out of meeting There is another WM, of the same timeframe.....born in Ireland 2nd mo 1698, in county Tyrone, Ireland to John and Mary Miller.....this wm married Ann Emlen of Philadelphia...so, you might want to be checking the Phill records for this Wm..... S. Here's Gayen's will, in case it has clues... MILLER, GAYEN. Kennett, yeoman.March 31, 1742. August 31, 1742. B. 114.To son William £5. To 4 sons, viz Robert, Patrick, Samuel andBenjamin £5 each. To my 2 daughters, viz Sarah wife of JoshuaJohnson and Elizabeth wife of Joseph Dickinson £5 each. To sonJames 4 children, viz Sarah, Deborah, James and Jesse 10shillings each. To daughter Mary's 3 children, viz, Saml., Jamesand Mary 10 shillings each. To son Benjamin part of a tract ofland by Pequea Creek in Lancaster Co now in his possession. Toson John the remainder of said tract, estimated to be 250 acres.To son Josephs widow Jane Miller and her 2 children, Samuel andRebecca £6. To son George 1/2 of plantation where I dwell and theother 1/2 at wifes decease. To wife Margaret all remainder of estate real and personal.Executors: wife Margaret, son William and cousin Jas. Miller.Witnesses: Rachel Miller, George Miller, David Bradford. HEre's an early John Miller, with son Wm....I'll include it, in case...(note that Gayen was a witness...I think this may be the brother to Gayen and a John....James married Catharine LIghtfoot, in Ireland, and came to PA in 1729.) geez there are a ton of John Millers around, too.... MILLER, JOHN. New Garden. Joyner.August 17, 1714/5. December 8, 1714/15, A. 10.To wife not named 1/3 of real and personal estate. To son Joseph, the plantation I now live upon containing 300 acres. Paying to son in law Joseph Hutton £20 and to daughters Martha and Sarah Miller £20 each when 16. To son James 300 acres of land lying on south side of above mentioned plantation extending to James Starrs line. To son William, 400 acres of land with mill, he paying £60 as follows. To daughters Elizabeth, Susanna and Elinor, £20 each when 16. Executors: wife Mary and son Joseph. Witnesses: Joel Baily, Gayen Miller, John Wily. One William Miller (b. 1698) built a home in 1730 in what is now Avondale (Ellicott Road/SR #1). Two sources have as his parents different people: John and Mary (Ignew) Miller, and Gayen and Margaret (Henderson?) Miller. William Miller b. 30 Aug 1698 married Ruth Rowland. Another William Miller b. Apr 1698 married Ann Emlen. Which William goes with which father? I'm trying to reconstruct both John and Gayen's families (including their children and spouses), as I have some links to both in my Quaker lines. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 3/31/2006

A fellow list member tells me that ebay has a good 'deal' on Futhey and Cope's THE HISTORY OF CHESTER COUNTY , on CD. If interested I suggest you visit ebay and check it out. Sandra -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 3/31/2006

I'm hoping someone can help me with this: One William Miller (b. 1698) built a home in 1730 in what is now Avondale (Ellicott Road/SR #1). Two sources have as his parents different people: John and Mary (Ignew) Miller, and Gayen and Margaret (Henderson?) Miller. William Miller b. 30 Aug 1698 married Ruth Rowland. Another William Miller b. Apr 1698 married Ann Emlen. Which William goes with which father? I'm trying to reconstruct both John and Gayen's families (including their children and spouses), as I have some links to both in my Quaker lines. I have as Gayen's children: James b. 5 Nov 1696 William b. 30 Aub 1698 Robert b. 3 Mar 1702/03 Sarah b. 1 Sep 1704 Mary Miller b. 7 Feb 1706/07 Patrick Miller b. 28 Dec 1708 Samuel Miller b. 14 Apr 1711 Elizabeth Miller b. 7 May 1713 Joseph Miller b. 1715 Benjamin Miller b. 1717 John Miller b. 1720 George Miller b. 1727 (Margaret was a hearty gal!) John and Mary (Ignew) Miller had children: William Miller b. Apr 1698 Elizabeth Miller b. Mar 1703/04 Eleanor Miller b. Jun 1710 Susanne/Susanna Miller b. 1712 ...and others? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Eleanor Rayl Indianapolis

Much to my chagrin, and after re-reading the Estate Petition of William Smith of York County, I realized I had mistaken the name of Daniels Beals. The "intermarriage" was between - David Beals - and Elinor Smith, daughter of William and Elizabeth Smith. The Beals family, and perhaps the Smith families, came from Chester County to York County, sometime in the 1750's or 1760's. It is possible that David Beals was born in the mid-1750's, unknown whether this was in Chester or York County. William Smith had four named children: James {possibly married his cousin Elizabeth Smith, daughter of John and Margaret Smith}, William Smith ii, George Smith and Elinor Smith, married David Beals. The Smith families were in Huntington Townships of York County. I would appreciate any clues on any of the above named persons. Signers of the Petition were: William Rowan, Esquire, High Sheriff of York County, William Woodrow, Henry Burkholder, James Parkeson, Daniel McCurdie, Francis Boner, John Kenedy, Charles Boner, Henry Reymer, John Zeigler, Gabriel Fickle, Thomas Black and Alexander Sanderson. Dated: the last Tuesday of April, 1780. William Smith died in 1777. Special Thanks to those who have given much time and effort to helping sort this out. Thank You Judy Smith/Colorado

I find a David Beale, son of Wm Beal (son of Thomas and Catharine, Wiltshire, England). Futhey and Cope say that David was born June 20, 1745...and d. Feb 6, 1828, at his home in Beale twp, Juniata Co, PA.....he was a prominent man in political affairs and was for many years associate judge in Mifflin Co. I rechecked the will CD and nothing applicable for a David Beale, any spelling I could think of. S. "I realized I had mistaken the name of Daniels Beals. The "intermarriage" was between - David Beals -" -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 3/31/2006

http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/chester/cemeteries/stpaulse.txt St. Paul's Church West Whiteland 1105 East Lincoln Highway Exton , PA 19341 This cemetery was often referred to as Glenn Loch Cemetery, or St. Paul's M. E. Church at Glenn Loch. Although it is St. Paul’s Protestant Episcopal (P.E.) Church -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 3/31/2006

Here are wills of various Bartholomew; Chester Co BARTHOLOMEW, MARGARET. Widow of Thos. Willistown.December 6, 1776. January 14, 1777.To friend Rowland Evans £30. To Rev. Wm. Currie £1.10. To brother-in-law John Williams and his wife Mary all other personal estate, also my house in Philadelphia during life and after their decease to Benjamin Bartholomew, Jr. Executors: Rowland Evans of Philadelphia Co., Joel Evans and John William Jr. of Tredyffrin. Letters to Joel Evans and Williams. Wit: Jacob Bough, Thos. Simmons, Joshua Evans. here's another I'll include in case it has clues for you...as the place is correct. There was, however, another Bartholomew family, with a Benjamin, that don't seem related. These folks came, first from France to England and then to PA, and there was a George BArtholomew and his wife Jane living at and owning the Blue Anchor tavern in Philadelphia in 1683. The Benjamin of this family served in the Rev. war, as a Capt., and he also lived in EAst Whiteland (it says the vicinity of his birth) So, yuu'll have to figure out which ones are 'yours'. BARTHOLOMEW, BENJAMIN. East Whiteland.March 27, 1812. April 8, 1812.Directs sale of house & lot in Philadelphia, near cor. 5th & Arch, and military lands in Ohio & Mercer Co., Pa., also within 5 years my plantations in E. Whiteland and Willistown. Provides for wife Rachel. To son John $500. To gr.son David Bartholomew, son of my oldest child, Joseph, £800. Rem. of money from sale of real estate to children, Hannah, Sarah, John,Rachel, Marian, Edward, Augusta, Benjamin & Ellen; to the boys at 21 and the girls at 18. Executors: Son John Bartholomew & friends John Hughes & Israel Davis.Wits: John G. Bull, Joseph Bartholomew. (because of the military lands, I imagine this is the Benj. who was the Capt and, thus, of the other family). BARTHOLOMEW, BENJAMIN, gentleman, Chester, Chester County.September 9, 1784 - December 22, 1784.Wife Sarah, Joseph son of nephew John BARTHOLOMEW, brother Edward, nephews John and Benjamin sons of brother Joseph, nephew Joseph son of brother Thomas, sister Rachel DAVIS, niece Hannah THOMSON widow of Archibald THOMSON, sister in law Catharine widow of brother Thomas, December'd. and her daughter Elizabeth GRIFFITH, Sarah BOGGS former housekeeper, nephews John and Joseph BARTHOLOMEW, sons of brother Andrew, December'd., nephew John DAVIS and niece Elizabeth DAVIS children of sister Elizabeth, niece Sarah WILSON daughter of ____.Codicil October 18, 1784, legacy to Baptist Meeting in Tredyferrin.Wits: Benjamin NORRIS, Henry ODENHEIMER and E. PRICE.Codicil November 4, 1784.Wits: Jacob TOBIN, Elizabeth JOHNSON and Ed. PRICE.Exrs: Brother Edward and nephew John son of brother Joseph.Wits: John ODENHEIMER, Henry ODENHEIMER and E. PRICE. BARTHOLOMEW, BENJAMIN. Chester Boro.September 29, 1784. Codicil: November 4, 1784. December 2, 1784.Provides for wife Sarah. To brother Edward £200. To my nephews John and Benjamin, sons of brother Joseph, £100. To nephew Joseph, son of brother Thomas, £150. To sister Rachel Davis £50. To niece Hannah, widow of Archibald Thompson, £80. To Catharine, widow of brother Thmas,deceased, £50, and to her daughter Elizabeth Griffith £50. To Sarah Boggs, my former housekeeper, £50. To nephews John and Joseph, sons of brother Andrew, deceased, £100 each. To John and Elizabeth, children of my sister Elizabeth Davis, £50 each. To niece Sarah Willson £50.Executors: Brother Edward, nephew John, son of brother Joseph.Codicil gives to Baptist Meeting in Tredyffrin £150. To Hannah, wife of nephew John Bartholomew, a feather bed.Wit: John Odenheimer, Henry Odenheimer. There is no will for a Benj. who died ca 1760. Have I confused you with a plethora of Benjamins? Sandra From: "PEGGIE SHAW" <PEGGIESHAW@msn.com> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 12:36 PM Subject: [PaOldC] Benjamin Bartholomew 1717-1760 > Good Afternoon: I am looking for the European origins of the following > family and any other info I can get. I am also interested in finding out > more abt their wives. Thank you in advance for any help. > 1. Benjamin BARTHOLOMEW b. abt 1717 in unknown. d. 1760 Chester county, PA > M. Catherine Unknown. He was a wheelwright and settled in Whiteland Twp, > Chester Co, PA. > Children: (known to me) > 1. Benjamin BARTHOLOMEW Jr. b. bet 1737 and 1750 (my guess) > d. aft 1777. He was a justice of the Peace in Chester County, PA > in 1777 and was on the tax records for Whiteland Twp in 1774. > 2. Jacob BARTHOLOMEW b. 11 FEb 1748 in Chester Co, Pa. d. 17 Sep 1813 > in Milford, Bucks Co. PA. buried Tohickon Reformed Church Cemetery. > M. Catherine STEIN (STONE) b. bet 1745 and 1755 in Chester Co or Bucks Co > PA > Child: John Henry S. BARTHOLOMEW b. 5 Sep 1783 in Lower Milford, > Bucks > d. 1873 in same. > M. Anna BLIEM (BLEIM) > They had a dau. Hannah who married Isaac Gerhardt ROSENBERGER of Bucks > co. > This families name is also referred to as PTOLEMA and BARTELEME. > Thank you > Peg > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > > " Unsubscribing. 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In regard to the origins of Bartholomew, my ancestor Thomas Gilpin (1622-1702), Quaker minister of Warborough, Oxfordshire, was married to Joan Bartholomew, daughter of Thomas Bartholomew of Shillingsford, Warborough on the river Thames. Chandler Eavenson Sautee-Nacoochee, GA -----Original Message----- From: PEGGIE SHAW [mailto:PEGGIESHAW@msn.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 12:36 PM To: PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PaOldC] Benjamin Bartholomew 1717-1760 Good Afternoon: I am looking for the European origins of the following family and any other info I can get. I am also interested in finding out more abt their wives. Thank you in advance for any help. 1. Benjamin BARTHOLOMEW b. abt 1717 in unknown. d. 1760 Chester county, PA M. Catherine Unknown. He was a wheelwright and settled in Whiteland Twp, Chester Co, PA. Children: (known to me) 1. Benjamin BARTHOLOMEW Jr. b. bet 1737 and 1750 (my guess) d. aft 1777. He was a justice of the Peace in Chester County, PA in 1777 and was on the tax records for Whiteland Twp in 1774. 2. Jacob BARTHOLOMEW b. 11 FEb 1748 in Chester Co, Pa. d. 17 Sep 1813 in Milford, Bucks Co. PA. buried Tohickon Reformed Church Cemetery. M. Catherine STEIN (STONE) b. bet 1745 and 1755 in Chester Co or Bucks Co PA Child: John Henry S. BARTHOLOMEW b. 5 Sep 1783 in Lower Milford, Bucks d. 1873 in same. M. Anna BLIEM (BLEIM) They had a dau. Hannah who married Isaac Gerhardt ROSENBERGER of Bucks co. This families name is also referred to as PTOLEMA and BARTELEME. Thank you Peg ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== " Unsubscribing. To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in the message or subject slot." NO VIRUS WARNINGS - if you are concerned contact me PERSONALLY ferg@ntelos.net Visit the archives for this list to view old postings http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=PA-OLD-CHESTER (this site allows you to search for names, place, etc...... http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/pa-old-chester this site allows you to browse by month.. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Hello Sandra: No you have not confused me with all the Benjamin's (I just finished spending a year doing my mothers family all pa dutch and weeding through tons of Anna Detweiler's and Jacob Oberholtzers) Thank you as I now have some leads, I have suspected that the info I have on this family was somewhat off. I am almost certain the Benjamin (Gentleman) Sep 1784 is mine, but now have to piece together which Benjamin, evidently they had numerous Bens in the family and this continued. A good clue is the name of the church! I will check for their records. Margaret is also probably related. Again thank you. Peg