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The list seems a bit quiet so thought I would ask a question that has bugged me for some time. "In 1850, an Act of Assembly was passed, creating the office of District Attorney and making the officer elective by the people. The first choice of the electors fell upon Paschall Woodward, who acted in that capacity until 1853, when he resigned and removed to the West." Tells of a murder case tried by Paschall in Jan 1851. From Side Lights on the Bench and Bar of Chester County, by Wilmer W. MacElree 1918 Then I find Paschall in the 1850 census in Chester County: 1850 #362 West Chester Chester Co, Pa Paschall Woodward, 25, lawyer, $2500, Pa; Elizabeth J., 22, Pa; Anna Mary Woodward, 17, Pa; Margaret Mills, 19, Pa. They are next door to a girls' school run by Palmer Evans and thus probably the two girls staying with them. Anna Mary is Paschall's sister. Then he did indeed remove to the west and is found in 1860: 1860 New Lenox Will Co Ill 1119 Paschall Woodward, 35, farmer, Pa, 72,000 real estate 20,000 personal property Elizabeth J., 34, Pa; Harry Woodward, 9, Pa; Emma J, 4, Il; John Yertze 60, farm hand, Pa; John Conwell, 30, carppenter, NY; Wm Edwards, 24, farm hand, Pa; James Brenan, 30, farm hand, Ire; Henry Law, 25, farm hand, NY; Angus McFadden, 25, farm hand, Scotland; Charlotte Weston, 56, servant, England; Lydia Cramer, 14, servant, NY My question is how did this guy go from a net worth of $2500 in 1850 to nearly $100,000 in 1860. That is an enormous amount of money in that day and time. A currency comparison site online using comparative cost of living gives the value in 2004 of $100,000 from 1860 as over two million dollars. Paschall is only distantly related to me - second cousin, four times removed and it is mainly prurient curiosity on my part. He descends from William and Eliza Marshall Woodward and I have his family information. Didn't find much on him by Googling and wonder if anyone out there knows his story , i. e. anything about the murder trial and how Paschall may have come into his wealth? Nadine Holder

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Mary, I didn't know that Edward Richardson and Ann Jones were the parents Joseph Richardson, husband of Mary Massey. I have no knowledge of the parents of Ann Jones. I do show that Edward and Ann Jones Richardson had 3 more children ;Sarah Richardson m. Edward Lane; Mary Richardson m. David Thomas; Jacob Richardson b. 3.12.1743/44 m. Ellenora Stevens. Rebecca Richardson, daughter of Jacob Richardson and Ellenora Stevens, married 1812 Jacob Massey. I don't know the parents of Jacob Massey. Barclay

Known as Jurgen Schneeweiss (snow-white, in German)...or as Jurgen Kuhn, is shown in the monthly account book of Governor PRintz....and, that he came from Germany. Jurgen arrived in New Sweden with Gov Printz in 1643. After the surrender of the colony to the Dutch, he made his residence at Upland. Aug 4, 1668, as Juriaen Keen, he was granted a patent for 3 lots at Upland. The last reference to him alive occurred on 1 March 1687/8 when "Urine keen" conveyed land in Chester town for a Quaker meeting house. Jurgen Keen had 2 sons, Hans and Jonas. His only knows daughter was Anna, who married ca 1668 James Sandelands, of Scottish origins. Jonas Jurgensson Keen, son of Jurgen...his name first appears in public records may 17 1677/8 when he was appointed ensign of the Upland militia....March 12, 1677-8 - acquired 200 acres at Upland from his brother Hans, which he sold the same year. The next and last reference 2 March 1694/5 under the name Jonas Skeen...it was the inventory of his estate. His widow, Katherine Skeen, administered his estate. Of their children, only 3 have been identified - Mans, Goran and Catharine. Hans Jurgensson Keen,2nd son of Jurgen, was a resident of Tacony in 1677-8 when he deeded his upland property to his brother Jonas...he died before 10 Aug, 1684 when his widow was listed in the Wicaco Church. His eldest son, Matthias Keen was married and had started his own family in 1693. Still living at home were 4 children Gertrude, Eric, Jonas and George. S. "hank you, Sandra, for the information about the early Swedes. I have long been fascinated by them. My Swedish ancestor was Joran Kyn, also known as Snowhuit (probably for very blond hair). He was originally said to be Swedish but later found to be recruited from Saxony. He became a member of Governor Printz's Lifeguards and received land in what I think is Chester County. I have long wondered whom he and his immediate descendants married. One of them married the daughter of an early Dutch settler along that part of the Delaware - Hans Hoppman, later Hoffman. I'd be grateful if any of these names appear in the 1683 census of Swedes along the Delaware. I imagine Joran Kyn was dead by that time but perhaps the names of his descendants appear. I think I have their names somewhere but am still interested and would like to find their wives. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.0/341 - Release Date: 5/16/2006

All the people mentioned....Morton Mortonson, Peter Peterson, Hance Urine, and Mathias Natsilas, were all enumerated in the 1683 Census of the Swedes on the Delaware.....a wonderful book by Peter Craig ,,,(and, they are all good examples of the name 'problems' that make researching these folks tough.) Hance Urine 'started out life' as Hanss Jurensson and became a resident on the Delaware by 1671 where, as Hance Urine he was shown as a resident of Upland.... Morton Mortonson is a bit easier...this is the not too different from the original Marten Martensson... Mortin was "born in Finland in Sweden" and arrived in New Sweden on the Eagle, in 1645. Peter Petersson was also known as Peter Petersson Stake, who was born in NJ in 1667.... He avoided using the name Stake as a surname and opted instead for the surname of Peterson, his father's patronymic. He was also known as Peter Mansson. I"ve not seen Sven Bond's name spelled Swan, but I seem to remember a Swan VanCulin, so it may well be...Craig gives the original name as Sven Andersson Bonde, which 'morphed' into Sven Bonde......the name later became Boon, and these folks were a the ancestors of Daniel Boon. I've not seen the name Mathias Natsilas spelled this way.... Nilsson is the spelling I've found. He was one of 3 sons of Nils Nilsson, from Fryksdalen, and arrived in 1656 on the Mercurius, with wife and 4 children...NIls Nilsson jr was sometimes called NIls Nilsson Repat, adding yet another name to the list to watch for. In the past there's been a lot posted on these "Swedish" citizens of New Sweden so, if interested, visit the list archives to read about them....reading about this t colony on the Delaware River & its history is fascinating. Sandra > "Note: That Calconhook was added to Darby in the year 1686, containing six settlements, viz. Morton Mortonson, Peter Peterson, Hance Urine, Swan Boone & Mathias Natsilas." -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.0/341 - Release Date: 5/16/2006

>"Note: That Calconhook was added to Darby in the year 1686, containing six >settlements, viz. Morton Mortonson, Peter Peterson, Hance Urine, Swan >Boone & Mathias Natsilas." The above Hance URINE was born Hans GEORGEN (two dots above the "o") in Brandenburg, what is now Germany, but at that time it was part of the large Swedish empire. He arrived in PA c 1665. The two "g"s in GEORGEN are the Swedish soft "g"s pronounced as a "y". In 1693 he had a household of 11. The name has come down as URIAN.

---continued--- 7th. Class. Isaac Morgan*, George Rooks*, Thos. Bodley*, Fredk. Gearhart*, Jedidiah Griffith*, John Turk*, Lewellin Davis*, Israel Davis*, Yost Smith*, Matthias Pennypacker, Henry Shutts, Jacob Walkinghood Discharged, John Youngblood*, Wm. Himes, John Miller*, Jacob Johnson, Saml. Hart*, John McFall*, George Ivister*, James Stuart, Arthur Campbel* 8th. Class. John Allen*, Moses Coates, Junr.*, David Deal*, David Buchwalter, Levi Randal*, Isaac James*, Abram Holderman, John Lyons*, Hugh Quay*, Henry Court, Wm. Thomas (Miller)*, John Varley*, Wm. John*, Charles Macaraher, Benjn. Byers, Wm. Galacher, David Davis, Peter Johnson*, George McElhenny*, James Cloyd*, Joseph Bartholomew*, Nicholas Peragrin* I Do hereby Certify on Oath the above is a just & true return of the attendants & Nonattendants in my Company for the first & last part of the yar 1784 to the best of my knowledge. SAML. ROBERTS, Capt. DAVIS CLERK. N.B. All those Marked Thus (*) Attended. ---end / I have no further information ---

--- continued--- 4th. Class. Benjn. Griffith*, Fredk. Place*, Thos. Rossiter*, John Sturk*, Jonathan Lute*, Wm. Williams, School master*, James Thompkins, Peter Wells, James Griffith, Nathl. Page*, Barnet Rapp*, Benjn. Jones, Jacob Buchwalter*, Jacob Leap, Joseph Lyons*, David Dressler, Ralph Robinson*, George Shurr*, Abram Whisler, Abram Hammer* 5th. Class. Jacob Humble*, Elijah Funk*, Sebastian Waggoner, Benjn. Longstreth, Roger Davis*, David Lewis*, John Salisbury, Arnst Stover, Peter Moses*, Bartholomew Fussell, Isaac Anderson, John Leap, James Williams*, Daniel Williams*, John Smith*, Isaac Williams*, Christn. Miller*, John Graham, Jacob Varley*, Mathuselah Davis*, Adam Lodwick 6th. Class. Christn. Maris, Wm. Lewellin*, John Nettles*, Elijah Jones*, Anthony Warner*, John Mairs*, James Hodge*, Wm. Brown*, Mordecai Williams*, John Byers*, Amos John*, John Humphreys*, Theops. Davis*, Levi Davis, John Wall*, George Gill*, Peter Shunk, Fredk. Buzzard, Jun.*, John Davis*, Philip Varley*, Philip Defrederick* ---continued---

PENNSYLVANIA ARCHIVES, Sixth Series, VOLUME III, Pages 125-127. CHESTER COUNTY - SECOND BATTALION MILITIA ROLLS - 1783-1790. CHESTER COUNTY. 1784. RETURN OF THE COMPANY COMMANDED BY CAPT. SAMUAL ROBERTS BELONGING TO THE SECOND BATTALION OF CHESTER COUNTY MILITIA. FOR THE FIRST & SECOND PART OF THE YEAR 1784. Commissioned Officers. Capt. Samuel Roberts. Lieut. James Craven. Ensign. Henry Smith. Privates. 1st. Class. John Buchwalter, Saml. John, Isaac Starr, Jacob Pennypacker, John King*, George Sholfield*, Ezekiel Alexander*, Elias Brown, Peter Kimes, James Davis*, George Kiter, Balsor Grove, Christn. Allibach, John Chrisman, Joseph Lewis, John Cauffman, Joseph White, Francis Smith, Owen James*, George Emrie, Job Harvey*, James Starr, Barney Hagerman*, Fredk. Rapp* 2d. Class. Thos. Hill*, Roger Little*, Joshua John, Samuel Lane*, John Buzzard*, George Vestler*, Saml. Byers*, Christopher Good*, Peter Smith*, John H. Coates, Jacob Stager*, John Allibach*, Lawrence King*, Owen Carle*, James Lewis*, John Marsteller*, Wm. Valentine*, John James*, George Lapp. 3rd. Class. Christn. Whisler, Thos. Roberts, Joseph Starr, Jr., James Alexander, Jonathan James*, Andrew Knox*, Martin Shainholtz, Junr.*, John Longstreth, Daniel Rossiter*, John Peragrin*, Samuel Brooks*, Thos. McAnnully, Benjn. Davis, John Ryan*, Wm. Knowles*, Lodwick Emrie, John Galacher, George Lute, Junr.*, Peter Young*, John Yellis. ---continued---

I've been trying to make sense of some of the information I have, and I've managed to put together what I believe to be the family of Benjamin BOYERS using resources at Chester County Archives. Source: Petition for Division or Valuation of the Real Estate of Benj. Byers dec., 18th January 1785, Inquest awarded, Allowed. ...The Petitions of Jacob Byers Eldest son + heir at law of Benjamin Byers late of Charlestown in the said County dec. Humbly Sheweth That the said Benjamin Byers some time in or about the year of our lord 1783 died Intestate leaving a widow named Margaret and [issue ?] 8 children viz Your Petitioner, Catherine, Barbara now the wife of William Dickinson, Elizabeth who is since dece., Benjamin, John, Samuel, + Isaac to Survive him. ... That the said Intestate was in his lifeime and at the time of his decease Seized and [possessed ?] of a [Message ?] and tract of One hundred and Eighty Acres of land Situate in the Township of Charlestown aforesaid Which your Petitioner is advised belongs to the said Widow + Children according to the act of assembly for the Better Settling Intestates Estates. ..." Source: Decem. 20th 1785, John & Rebecca Boyer's Petition for a Guardian John and Rebecca (who signed her name Rebeka) are named as children of Benjamin Boyers late of Charlestown, are minors over the age of fourteen, and are requesting that Frederick Gerhart be their guardian. Source: Decem. 20th 1785, Jacob Boyers Petition in favour of Saml + Isaac Boyer Children of Benj Boyers late of Charlestown, Edward Layne and Benjamin Longstets ap- Jacob Boyers identifies himself as "of the Township of Charlestown" and names his father as Benjamin Boyers who "died some years aag Intestate". He names Samuel and Isaac Boyers as under fourteen, claims part of this estate belongs to them, and requests a guardian or guardians for them. Where I have words in brackets, that's because I was struggling with reading the writing. What I wonder now is: what sources should I check next? I'm thinking land records from Benjamin Boyers to Margaret and children, but I could use some advise on this one. Also, now that I've a family that makes sense rather than a vague "looking for Benjamin and Samuel and William", I'm hoping this line or the others named will connect with someone on the list. My hope is to pursue this and either prove or disprove that the above Samuel, son of Benjamin, is also father to Benjamin born abt 1805.

Here is what I learned of Philip via a Patriot Index lookup as well: RAPP, Philip Birth: GR 16 Aug 1725 Service: PA Rank: PS Death: PA 20 Apr 1793 Patriot Pensioned: No Widow Pensioned: No Children Pensioned: No Heirs Pensioned: No Spouse: (1) Elizabeth X I have copies of applications submitted by DAR members for each of these Rapps. As always, if anyone happens to be researching the same line, be sure to post. I have some more information on Barnet Rapp and perhaps his son Barnet (that gets confusing!) from sources I was able to use at the Genealogical Society of Pennsylvania today. Let me know if you're interested. Sandra, thanks for posting that. Laurie ----- Original Message ----- : Out of curiosity I requested a DAR patriot lookup....this is what they : sent....I'll pass it along in case there is some info you don't have. : : Sandra : : A search of our Patriot Index provided the information found below. : : RAPP, Barnet : Birth: PA 27 Mar 1761 : Service: PA : Rank: Pvt : Death: PA 8 Oct 1824 : Patriot Pensioned: No Widow Pensioned: No : Children Pensioned: No Heirs Pensioned: No : Spouse: (1) Esther Rositer : : Directions for ordering a record copy of the application submitted for this : patriot can be found at : http://www.dar.org/natsociety/content.cfm?ID=146&hd=n&FO=Y.

Try this site for divorces in Chester County from 1804 to 1902 (the star indicates which spouse brought the suit): http://dsf.chesco.org/archives/cwp/view.asp?a=3&Q=616878&PM=1

Velma Beale...will you please contact me with your current email address. This is the one I've tried velma.beale@direcway.com and my personal emails to you have been refused. (sorry about this folks, but I know of no other way to reach Velma) I'll also post something, to keep it from being a total waste of archival space!!) S. Wm Beale is listed in the 1765 Chester Archives as owning 260 acres in Whiteland, along with 4 horses, 10 cows, 10 sheep but no servants. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/335 - Release Date: 5/9/2006

http://www.manorpresbyterian.com/ This is the Faggs Manor Presbyterian Church link. It's been renamed. It's on Route 926 outside of Cochranville. They have a large and very old cemetery and a very active parish, try contacting the church directly to see if they have any info - Lynn According to F&C, Fagg's manor was without a regular pastor from the 1760s > through 1781, when John Evans Finley was installed as pastor....he > remained > in the job till the mid 1790s....so, I wouldn't count on there being much > chance of extant records from the 1760s through 1781... > I did a quick google and see where the Presbyterian Archives in > Philly > only have records beginning with 1804....however, elsewhere I saw that the > LDS have filmed records - they are listed under New Londonderry Pres. > Church > 1740-1780, so this may hold what you're looking for. (the earliest online > data I found were for marriages, deaths, baptisms from the late 1780+ > They seem to start with Rev. Findley)........ There is also a book called > Death and Baptism Records, 1781-1793: Fagg's Manor Presbyterian Church, > Chester County, PA > (but that might be too late for you.) > > "I wonder if in your research you have come across information about > Fagg's Manor Presbyterian Church? I am wonder if there are any existing > records from the 1740-1780 period? I have seen some marriage records > online > from 1791 onward, but do not know if any prior to this are in existence." > > >

I use the Library of Congress frequently and wanted to supplement Sandra's good advice. 1) You will have to get your researcher ID before you may request books so plan accordingly. 2) Sandra's night-before idea is excellent but depends on step #1. 3) They have an excellent web search engine on www.loc.gov - in fact, it's the same index used 'in-house so you should plan ahead. You can use it to compile a book list, print out and bring with you ready to start filling out the forms (for all their automation, this is still a pencil and carbon paper exercise) 4) Don't go to the main reading room but go to the Genealogy and Family History Room. They have thousands of books shelved in this room which can easily fill many days of 'dead' time while you're waiting for them to pull other books for you. I've had many serendipitous discoveries there. John -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: ltguidetti <ltguidetti@gmail.com> > Sandra - Your email could not have been timed more perfectly, a friend and I > are going down there next month. This is great information! > > About the Archives - why do you believe you find more at other places than > there? And what would be the best way to use the Archives, if we do go > there? > > > Lynn > > > > I prefer these 2 libraries to Archives - I always seem to find more > > at > > them. > > > > Sandra > > > > > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribing. To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to > PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com > with the single word unsubscribe in the message or subject slot." > > > NO VIRUS WARNINGS - if you are concerned contact me PERSONALLY ferg@ntelos.net > > please visit the Chester Co rootsweb site...it is full of area photos, helpful > URLs and lots of county information > http://www.pa-roots.com/~chester/ > > Visit the archives for this list to view old postings > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=PA-OLD-CHESTER > If you have ANY problems, do not send them to the list > contact me personally....list manager ferg@ntelos.net > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Robert died intestate, but there were adm. papers recorded.......to discover what they are you will need to request a copy of them from.... Archives and Records 610 Westtown rd, West Chester, PA 19380-0990 REDDICK, ROBERT.May 18, 1737.Adm. to Robert McClanahan. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/335 - Release Date: 5/9/2006

Out of curiosity I requested a DAR patriot lookup....this is what they sent....I'll pass it along in case there is some info you don't have. Sandra A search of our Patriot Index provided the information found below. RAPP, Barnet Birth: PA 27 Mar 1761 Service: PA Rank: Pvt Death: PA 8 Oct 1824 Patriot Pensioned: No Widow Pensioned: No Children Pensioned: No Heirs Pensioned: No Spouse: (1) Esther Rositer Directions for ordering a record copy of the application submitted for this patriot can be found at http://www.dar.org/natsociety/content.cfm?ID=146&hd=n&FO=Y. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/335 - Release Date: 5/9/2006

Lately, I"ve been receiving lots of personal requests for this sort of info, and while I'm always glad to help when I can, the main idea of these lists is that there is strength (and more information) in numbers. By asking only one person you are denying yourself the combined knowledge of the other 450+ people on the list.......so, you'd do much better to send your query to everyone rather than limit yourself to just one individual! Sandra According to F&C, Fagg's manor was without a regular pastor from the 1760s through 1781, when John Evans Finley was installed as pastor....he remained in the job till the mid 1790s....so, I wouldn't count on there being much chance of extant records from the 1760s through 1781... I did a quick google and see where the Presbyterian Archives in Philly only have records beginning with 1804....however, elsewhere I saw that the LDS have filmed records - they are listed under New Londonderry Pres. Church 1740-1780, so this may hold what you're looking for. (the earliest online data I found were for marriages, deaths, baptisms from the late 1780+ They seem to start with Rev. Findley)........ There is also a book called Death and Baptism Records, 1781-1793: Fagg's Manor Presbyterian Church, Chester County, PA (but that might be too late for you.) "I wonder if in your research you have come across information about Fagg's Manor Presbyterian Church? I am wonder if there are any existing records from the 1740-1780 period? I have seen some marriage records online from 1791 onward, but do not know if any prior to this are in existence." -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/335 - Release Date: 5/9/2006

Sandra - Your email could not have been timed more perfectly, a friend and I are going down there next month. This is great information! About the Archives - why do you believe you find more at other places than there? And what would be the best way to use the Archives, if we do go there? Lynn > I prefer these 2 libraries to Archives - I always seem to find more > at > them. > > Sandra > >