from a lookup. from early court records...1697-1710; I did find a Edward Pritchett.....his daughter, Joane, drowned in Ridley Creek, upon the 2nd day 3mo 1689...her death was found to be an accident. In 1699 Edward Pritchett was ordered to present himself and answer the charge of quarrelling and fighting. He seemed to have numerous problems with the court and in 1699 was called to court for 'abusing the present Grand Jury in calling us all liars and said he would prove it" He was ordered to court to answer same. He did not appear at the next court and his wife stated that he was not 'well' enough to appear....his case was continued. In 1700 he and Peter Cocke, (who the original case of quarreling and fighting included) agreed to come to terms on their differences, but old Edward STILL had to answer the charge of calling the Court, liars.....the court of 1700 put him on trial, as he refused to pay court costs. Fined . Then in 1702 he was fined 20 shillings for open contempt of court and spitting in the face of Walter Faucitt in open Court. (damages granted for 17 lb 8 shillings and 7 pence.... -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/358 - Release Date: 6/7/2006

Here's a bit on Scottish Clergymen.....Presbyterians...... http://www.electricscotland.com/history/descendants/chap16.htm I hope the site you're working on is the one I've visited many times in the past....Biographies of Early Presbyterians, that I see is no longer available. It had a wonderful amount of data ....here is the list, cached ....hope this is your new 'job'! S. http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:BBqx_FpWJcoJ:sdss4.physics.lsa.umich.edu:8080/~mckay/amckay/presbio.htm+%22+early+presbyterian+ministers%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=firefox-a -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.2/356 - Release Date: 6/5/2006

Thanks! This is quite interesting as I have a Robert Hume(s) in early PA that doesn't seem to match up to the Scottish family tree he's said to be related to. Home and Homes are common variants. He settled eventually near the Susquehanna river and was found at Old Hanover Presbyterian Church, where he is buried in the old graveyward (the church is long gone). More on this below. I'll include a USGENWEB link that offers some detail on this church, which only has a remaining graveyard in a state of some disrepair. Craighead shows up in some of the notes on the history and died nearby: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/dauphin/church/hanover-church1.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/dauphin/church/hanover-church2.txt I an curious about the references in ebay ads where a copy of this books old recently that lists Holmes and Hume but not Home in the listings other than for the chapter heading. I'd welcome any more info on the children or family of Rev. William Homes and any other Hume, Holmes, Holmes references in that book. I have some other info on Reverends Craighead and Boyd included below. There was a web site that covered a lot of detail on Early Presbyterians in the US that went offline but the info kept coming up in Gogole searches and some data could still be found in Google's cached copies. So I tracked down the site owner and asked if I could bring the site back and she granted permission. I've been gradually editing and reformatting the pages (which were rampant with typos) and these have been very helpful to me in understanding the evolution of Presbyterian churches in the PA, which is central to the migrations of many of my families. Also many of the Reverends listed at the site appear in my family tree (Linn, Graham, Finley, and Steele), and others had influences if not direct marriages to collateral lines. Here is a link to the revived Early Presbyterians pages: www.mal.net/EarlyPresbyterians/ They still need a lot of work so I haven't promoted them much at all yet, and they still aren't showing up in Google searches even though I submitted them for indexing. I especially recommend the link to the history of the Presbyterian church in PA: http://www.mal.net/EarlyPresbyterians/presby2.htm And to how congregations evolved, often without churches for many years: http://www.mal.net/EarlyPresbyterians/prescong.htm The Bios are one of the best parts: http://www.mal.net/EarlyPresbyterians/presbio.htm Here are the bios on the two you cited: Rev. Adam Boyd: http://www.mal.net/EarlyPresbyterians/presbiob.htm#Rev.%20Adam%20Boyd "He was born at Ballymoney, Ireland, in 1692, and came to New England as a probationer in 1722 or 1723. He was received under the care of New Castle Presbytery in July, 1724. He accepted a call to the churches of Octorara and Pequea, and was ordained, October 13th, at Octorara. In October, 1727, the families on the west side of the stream Octorara having asked for one-third of his labors, he was directed to spend every sixty Sabbath at Middle Octorara. The Forks of Brandywine composed part of his field until 1734. In the progress of the great revival, a large portion of his congregation having left him and joined the Brunswick brethren, he asked leave, August 11th, 1741, to accept the invitation given him by the fraction of Brandywine which adhered to the Old Side. His relation to the Forks was dissolved in 1758. He died November 23d, 1768. Mr. Boyd was a man of great exactness, recording in what articles his salary was paid; thus John Long paid by publications (as a magistrate) of marriages and astrays, and by a riddle. His congregation agreed to pay him twenty-five pounds yearly during his life and several of them remembered him, in their dying testaments, by small bequests." (Rev. Boyd was also involved in the Middle Octorara scandals circa 1734 involving another Boyd family and a Potter family in disputes with magistrate John Carnachan. The locals tried to get Carnachan banned from the church after some disputes and after attempts to get the government involved failed. Documentation on this is found in the Donegal Synod records (a copy can be browsed at the Lancaster LCHS library) and in some state records, and was uploaded to USGENWEB recently by a list member here.) Rev. Thomas Craighead (d. 1739) http://www.mal.net/EarlyPresbyterians/presbioc.htm#Rev.%20Thomas%20Craighead "He was born in Scotland, and studied medicine there, but soon became a preacher and was settled for ten or twelve years in Ireland. His name occurs, first, in this country, in 1715, among the ministers of New England. Mather, in entreating the people of Freetown, about forty miles south of Boston, to encourage Mr. Craighead in his work, describes his as "a man of singular piety, meekness, humility and industry in the work of God." He is said, by President Stiles, in 1723, to have "gone to the Jerseys." In 1724 (January 28th) he became a member of New Castle Presbytery, which then included portions of Delaware, Pennsylvania and New Jersey. He was called both to Elk and to White Clay, but he accepted the invitation to the latter place, under the condition that he should give a portion of his time to Brandywine. In 1733 Mr. Craighead removed to Lancaster county, Pennsylvania, and in September of that year he received and accepted a call to Pequea, where he was installed October 31st. Donegal Presbytery, of which he now became a member, always speak of him as "Father Craighead," and appear to have had a peculiar veneration and love for him. He was very active in planting and building up churches in that region. [An unfortunate incident in the manse at Pequea caused October 27, 1736, to become a most eventful day in Protestantism west of the Susquehanna River. On a Saturday night some months earlier the elderly Thomas Craighead had broken the news to Mrs. Craighead that he had given permission for their son, John , and his family to move in with them. As Craighead did not approve of her reaction, he assumed the session's prerogative and on the next day forbade her to take communion. As done in Scotland, forbidding admission to communion was facilitated when at the entrance to the crude communion table, each communicant had to present a smal metal communion token. The session, however, backed Mrs. Craighead, but her husband-pastor remained adamant and unrepentant. By Septermber 1736, the congregation was in such an uproar that Presbytery suddenly terminated the pastoral relationship at Pequea, thus permitting Thomas Craighead to gain a place in history as the first full-time minister in the Susquehanna Valley. In October Craighead was assigned two Sabbaths "at Conedeguioinot" before also being "appointed to supply that people" for the five months before the April meeting. From The Evolution of Ten Pre-1745 Presbyterian Societies in the Cumberland Valley by William T. Swaim, 1985] On the 17th of November, 1737, he accepted a call from the people of Hopewell, whose place of meeting was at "the Big Spring," now Newville. His pastorate there was only of short duration. He was now an aged man, though his earnestness and power remained unabated. Under his impassioned discourses his hearers were often melted to tears. Near the close of April, 1739, whilst pronouncing the benediction in the pulpit, he waved his had, exclaimed "Farewell! Farewell!" and sank down and expired. His remains are said to lie, without a monument, under the corner-stone of the present [1884] house of worship at Newville." Whew, that last part about dying in mid sermon is quite a story. I suspect ancestors of mine were probably there as they attended that church. More on Craighead and his descendants is here, which shows that his sister Katherine was the one married to Rev. William Homes. http://www.concentric.net/~pvb/GEN/tc.html Back to your mention of Homes, Craighead, and Franklin: Homes is a common variant of Hume(s). I also didn't know offhand that there was a connection to Franklin's family, who also was close to a Robert & Francis Bailey family of Sadsbury, Lancaster that married into this Humes line and another one in my tree. Francis Bailey was a printer during the Revolution and was a witness to Franklin's willl. Also the first son of my Robert Hume was a William, though I show wife as an Anna and his name as Hume - at least one son added the and was known as Humes. So this is an interesting lead to explore as we have other ties to Pequea Church and some also to Boyds, and these folks settled in an area very close to wher Craighead was active. Descendants of Robert Hume (settled in Dauphin County, migrated to Milton, Lycoming County and other parts of the state, said to be cousins of the James, William and Thomas Humes that arrived later in the 1700s.) 1 Robert Hume - 1790 (buried at Old Hanover Church, Dauphin County) .. +Anna UNKNOWN ........ 2 William Hume 1753 - ........ 2 James Hume 1754 - ........ 2 Elizabeth Hume 1756 - ........ 2 Isabel Hume 1757 - ........ 2 John Humes 1761 - 1827 (moved to Milton, died there but was buried in Dauphin Co.) ............ +Mary Duncan 1774 - 1854 ................... 3 Mary Humes ....................... +Andrew Ferguson ................... 3 Martha Humes ....................... +John Potts ................... 3 Jane Humes ....................... +George Tomb ............................. 4 Sara Sides ........................................ 5 Sarah Wilkins ................... 3 Elizabeth Humes ....................... +Thomas Calvert ................... 3 John Humes ................... 3 Samuel Humes 1801 - 1859 ....................... +Rachel Bailey Humes 1816 - 1883 ............................. 4 Hamilton Bailey Humes 1844 - 1913 ................................. +Floretta (Flora) S. Sebring ........ 2 Anna Hume 1763 - ........ 2 Eleanor Hume 1765 - ........ 2 Matthew Hume 1767 - ........ 2 Robert Hume 1770 - ........ 2 Thomas Hume 1773 - Looks like the claim of a relationship from Rev. William Homes to Franklin's sister may be a mistaken identity. Still, the lead is an interesting one to explore for my mysterious Humes branch in PA. See: http://www.concentric.net/~pvb/GEN/rc.html It is often said that Rev. Homes and Catherine had an oldest son, Capt. Robert Holmes, a sea captain who married Mary Franklin, Benjamin Franklin's sister. However, in the History of Martha's Vinyard, Vol. 2, by Charles Edward Banks, M.D., published by the Dukes County Historical Society, page 48 in the Annals of Chilmark, under the heading Ministry of William Homes, the author states [concerning William Homes]: "While there [in Ireland] he married, Sept. 26, 1693, Katherine, daughter of Rev. Robert Craighead, who had been minister of Donoughmore, and who translated to Derry in the beginning of the year 1690, and continued there until his death, Aug 22, 1711. In the adjoining parish of Urney another William Holmes was ordained in 1696, and this led to a confusion of identity." Thus, Capt. Robert Holmes, Ben Franklin's brother-in-law, may not have been the son of Katherine (Craighead) Homes. In Benjamin Franklin's autobiography, and in the Biography of Benjamin Franklin by M. L. Weems, published by Uriah Hunt in Philadelphia in 1835, and in all other known biographies of Benjamin Franklin, Capt. Robert Holmes (with the "l") is acknowledged to be Franklin's brother-in-law, but the name Craighead is not mentioned and the History of Martha's Vinyard casts doubt as to whether the Capt. was a son of Katherine and Rev. Homes.

Excerpted from Scotch Irish Pioneers in Ulster and America, by Charles Knowles Bolton, reprint 1977 by GPC: In Oct 1714, "Rev Thomas Craighead arrived in Boston with his brother-in-law Rev William Homes and their families from Londonderry" (on the ship "Thomas and Jane", William Wilson, master.) William Homes's son Robert married Benjamin Franklin's sister Mary in Boston; he was a ship's captain on ships bringing settlers to America. Both ministers were educated in Scotland in early 1690s. Rev Craighead served for a number of years in Freetown Bristol County Mass before, in 1723, moving to 'the Jerseys' where he served for a time in Delaware prior to a further move, in 1733, to Lancester County, Penna. He was pastor at Pequea Oct 1733 to Sept 1736. His family included his wife Margaret and children: Thomas, m Margaret, dau of George Brown of Londonderry Andrew, d without marrying Alexander - a minister John of Cumberland Co Penna Jane, m 23/10/1725, Rev Adam Boyd(first pastor of Upper Octorara Church in Lancaster Co Penna)

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Generally speaking, a person who left the 'fold', so to speak, was mentioned in the records of the meeting he belonged to as being dis.....but, the Friends didn't keep track of individuals AFTER they left the faith. So, the best bet is for you to go through local meeting records, and keep your fingers crossed that he will appear. You might want to start with traditionally Welsh meetings. ( you know, of course, that the Jones/John/;Johns is horribly common in the area....makes your chore SO hard!!) Sandra " am trying to track relatives of my David Jones, born in Wales in 1709 and came to US with Quakers. He left Quaker and went back to Episcopal. Anyway, thru a book on Jones's it was said he came over with family. It may have been his relations thru his mother and not Jones's. Any one out there have any suggestions. I was trying to figure out which Quaker group David may have been with at onset of US time. Also is there any place mentioned where he was cut loose from the society. It seems like they did that and kept track of folks leaving Quakers." -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/355 - Release Date: 6/2/2006

There is a 1683 Chester map on the Chester site (under maps.....what else?) that shows the placement AND names). There are others, too, if I remember rightly. Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "E Johnson" <iris.gates@gmail.com> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 4:40 PM Subject: [PaOldC] Land patents/grants Maps > Wow, the map of land grants ca 1687 at lowermerionhistory.org is > marvelous! > > Would anyone know if another atlas map like this is available for the > area below here (south), along the Delaware? Or any other hightly > detailed maps of land grants in the Penn era? > > Thanks, > Liz J > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribing.... To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to > PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com > with the single word unsubscribe in the message or subject slot. > > NO VIRUS WARNINGS - if you are concerned contact me PERSONALLY > ferg@ntelos.net > > If you have ANY problems, do not send them to the list > contact me personally....list manager ferg@ntelos.net > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/355 - Release Date: 6/2/2006 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/355 - Release Date: 6/2/2006

Wow, the map of land grants ca 1687 at lowermerionhistory.org is marvelous! Would anyone know if another atlas map like this is available for the area below here (south), along the Delaware? Or any other hightly detailed maps of land grants in the Penn era? Thanks, Liz J

I am trying to track relatives of my David Jones, born in Wales in 1709 and came to US with Quakers. He left Quaker and went back to Episcopal. Anyway, thru a book on Jones's it was said he came over with family. It may have been his relations thru his mother and not Jones's. Any one out there have any suggestions. I was trying to figure out which Quaker group David may have been with at onset of US time. Also is there any place mentioned where he was cut loose from the society. It seems like they did that and kept track of folks leaving Quakers. Just had to put it out there. Thanks Dianne Jones

Gyen Stephenson Chester John Pennell Aston John Edwards Middletown Thomas Withers and Wm Clainton Chichester Joseph Nicholin Concord Wm Griffith Bethell Swithin Chandler Birmingham Nathaniel Ring Westtown Philip Tailor Thornbury John Holston Edgmont Charles Booth Upper Providence Joseph Vernon Nether Providence Lawrence Friend Ridley Richard Woodward Springfield Jeremiah Jarman Newtown Nicholas Ireland Darby Richard Thomson Marple Henry Lawrence Haverford David Pugh Radnor Morgan Hugh Eastown Geo Ashbridge Goshen James Thomas Whiteland Frances Yarnall Willistown Silas Prior Kennett Joshua Pierce Marlborough -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/355 - Release Date: 6/2/2006

Guyan Stevenson Chester Thomas Woodward Ashton Jacob Minshall Middleton Thomas Withers Upper Chichester Wm Clayton Lower Chichester Ralph Pyle Concord John Caneday Bethell Jos Baker Jr Thornbury Saml. Hollingsworth Birmingham James Gibbons West town John Holston Edgmont Charles Booth Upper Providence Thomas Vernon Nether Providence Andrew Morton Ridley Geo Marris Springfield Thomas Reese Newtown John Marshall Darby Richard Thompson Marple Thomas Lawrence Haverford John Jones Radner Edward Hughs Easttown Joseph Collins Goshen James Parry Whiteland Thomas Garrat Willistown Michael Harlan Kennett Jeremiah cloud Marlborough -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/355 - Release Date: 6/2/2006

from EARLY COURT RECORDS OF CHESTER CO 1697-1710; "Peter Hood, being indicted for stealing a bay gelding of the price of six pounds of the goods and chattels of John Wade being called appeared and pleads guilty the Court give Judgment that the said Hood shall make double satisfaction and be whipt with ten lashes on his bare back and wear the Roman T according to law and pay the charges." (goodness.....shades of Hester Prim!!....I wonder if the T was scarlet?) Sandra -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/355 - Release Date: 6/2/2006

Thanks for the map info. There is a Lewelin on Haverford Road on a later map from 1753 at the same site: http://www.lowermerionhistory.org/atlas/scull.html see the middle left side on high res version. I also remember that there is a Llwellen Road near Ridley Creek Park because a friend grew up on that road. Not sure of the history of the road, but it's an area near some historic Quaker family homes. I think one of the homes of a Sharples or a related family is on the park property.

Gwen, the online version is slightly different from the map that is hanging in the old Quaker meeting house in Philadelphia. For example, my Rich Townsend is on the map reproduction in the Quaker Meeting House (the pictures I took) but the same plot of land is blank in the online version that you found. I wonder if one is an earlier version than the other. Kim On Jun 3, 2006, at 10:10 PM, Gwen Boyer Bjorkman wrote: > http://www.lowermerionhistory.org/atlas/1687.html > > This looks like a high resolution copy of the map. > > Gwen Boyer Bjorkman > gwenbj@seanet.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kimberly Ann Spangrude [mailto:kimspangrude@mac.com] > Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 8:43 PM > To: PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PaOldC] RE: Land patents/grants > > > Well, as you all know by now, the map that I took a picture of is > really difficult to see without taking it to "PhotoShop" or making it a > PDF so that you can magnify its details. Here are some of the options > I was thinking about: > 1. See if there is a PDF of the map online through the Friends > Historical Library of Swarthmore College > 2. Ask the Historical Society of Pennsylvania if they have scanned the > original or if they have transposed all the names and where the land is > located for each owner. > 3. Use a magnifying glass > 4. Ask my husband to fiddle with it using "photoshop" to see if the > detail can be magnified. > I personally opted for number 4; I will let you know how that goes :). > Kim Townsend Spangrude > On Jun 3, 2006, at 8:31 PM, Mal Humes wrote: > >> I would appreciate a copy of this if you can email it to me. >> >> Thanks and regards, >> >> Malcolm >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kim Spangrude [mailto:kimspangrude@mac.com] >> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 7:39 PM >> To: PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [PaOldC] RE: Land patents/grants >> >> >> This may or may not be helpful, but here goes: When I was in >> Philadelphia two weeks ago, I visited the old Quaker Meeting House in >> downtown Philadelphia, just down the street from Independence Hall. >> They had a few relics hanging on the walls from old Quakers, and I >> noticed a reproduction of the map that showed all of the land owners >> and where their property was; the explanation hanging next to this >> reproduction stated that the land owners were assigned their property >> when they were still in England, before they came to Pennsylvania. >> I >> took a picture of the map, if anyone is interested. I found my early >> Richard Townsend ancestor on the map. >> Kim Townsend Spangrude >> On Jun 3, 2006, at 4:42 PM, Anna B wrote: >> >>> this site has, primarily, documents dated 1820 or after; however, >>> there are >>> some very early ones. >>> Anna >> > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribing.... To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to > PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com > with the single word unsubscribe in the message or subject slot. > > NO VIRUS WARNINGS - if you are concerned contact me PERSONALLY > ferg@ntelos.net > > If you have ANY problems, do not send them to the list > contact me personally....list manager ferg@ntelos.net > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribing. To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to > PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com > with the single word unsubscribe in the message or subject slot." > > > NO VIRUS WARNINGS - if you are concerned contact me PERSONALLY > ferg@ntelos.net > > please visit the Chester Co rootsweb site...it is full of area photos, > helpful URLs and lots of county information > http://www.pa-roots.com/~chester/ > > Visit the archives for this list to view old postings > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=PA-OLD- > CHESTER > If you have ANY problems, do not send them to the list > contact me personally....list manager ferg@ntelos.net > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Perfect, Gwen! Eleanor, I can see the Welch Section over on the far left hand side of the map. Hope you can find your Llewelyn. Kim Kim On Jun 3, 2006, at 10:10 PM, Gwen Boyer Bjorkman wrote: > http://www.lowermerionhistory.org/atlas/1687.html > > This looks like a high resolution copy of the map. > > Gwen Boyer Bjorkman > gwenbj@seanet.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kimberly Ann Spangrude [mailto:kimspangrude@mac.com] > Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 8:43 PM > To: PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PaOldC] RE: Land patents/grants > > > Well, as you all know by now, the map that I took a picture of is > really difficult to see without taking it to "PhotoShop" or making it a > PDF so that you can magnify its details. Here are some of the options > I was thinking about: > 1. See if there is a PDF of the map online through the Friends > Historical Library of Swarthmore College > 2. Ask the Historical Society of Pennsylvania if they have scanned the > original or if they have transposed all the names and where the land is > located for each owner. > 3. Use a magnifying glass > 4. Ask my husband to fiddle with it using "photoshop" to see if the > detail can be magnified. > I personally opted for number 4; I will let you know how that goes :). > Kim Townsend Spangrude > On Jun 3, 2006, at 8:31 PM, Mal Humes wrote: > >> I would appreciate a copy of this if you can email it to me. >> >> Thanks and regards, >> >> Malcolm >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kim Spangrude [mailto:kimspangrude@mac.com] >> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 7:39 PM >> To: PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [PaOldC] RE: Land patents/grants >> >> >> This may or may not be helpful, but here goes: When I was in >> Philadelphia two weeks ago, I visited the old Quaker Meeting House in >> downtown Philadelphia, just down the street from Independence Hall. >> They had a few relics hanging on the walls from old Quakers, and I >> noticed a reproduction of the map that showed all of the land owners >> and where their property was; the explanation hanging next to this >> reproduction stated that the land owners were assigned their property >> when they were still in England, before they came to Pennsylvania. >> I >> took a picture of the map, if anyone is interested. I found my early >> Richard Townsend ancestor on the map. >> Kim Townsend Spangrude >> On Jun 3, 2006, at 4:42 PM, Anna B wrote: >> >>> this site has, primarily, documents dated 1820 or after; however, >>> there are >>> some very early ones. >>> Anna >> > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribing.... To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to > PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com > with the single word unsubscribe in the message or subject slot. > > NO VIRUS WARNINGS - if you are concerned contact me PERSONALLY > ferg@ntelos.net > > If you have ANY problems, do not send them to the list > contact me personally....list manager ferg@ntelos.net > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > >

Well, as you all know by now, the map that I took a picture of is really difficult to see without taking it to "PhotoShop" or making it a PDF so that you can magnify its details. Here are some of the options I was thinking about: 1. See if there is a PDF of the map online through the Friends Historical Library of Swarthmore College 2. Ask the Historical Society of Pennsylvania if they have scanned the original or if they have transposed all the names and where the land is located for each owner. 3. Use a magnifying glass 4. Ask my husband to fiddle with it using "photoshop" to see if the detail can be magnified. I personally opted for number 4; I will let you know how that goes :). Kim Townsend Spangrude On Jun 3, 2006, at 8:31 PM, Mal Humes wrote: > I would appreciate a copy of this if you can email it to me. > > Thanks and regards, > > Malcolm > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kim Spangrude [mailto:kimspangrude@mac.com] > Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 7:39 PM > To: PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PaOldC] RE: Land patents/grants > > > This may or may not be helpful, but here goes: When I was in > Philadelphia two weeks ago, I visited the old Quaker Meeting House in > downtown Philadelphia, just down the street from Independence Hall. > They had a few relics hanging on the walls from old Quakers, and I > noticed a reproduction of the map that showed all of the land owners > and where their property was; the explanation hanging next to this > reproduction stated that the land owners were assigned their property > when they were still in England, before they came to Pennsylvania. I > took a picture of the map, if anyone is interested. I found my early > Richard Townsend ancestor on the map. > Kim Townsend Spangrude > On Jun 3, 2006, at 4:42 PM, Anna B wrote: > >> this site has, primarily, documents dated 1820 or after; however, >> there are >> some very early ones. >> Anna >

http://www.lowermerionhistory.org/atlas/1687.html This looks like a high resolution copy of the map. Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: Kimberly Ann Spangrude [mailto:kimspangrude@mac.com] Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 8:43 PM To: PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PaOldC] RE: Land patents/grants Well, as you all know by now, the map that I took a picture of is really difficult to see without taking it to "PhotoShop" or making it a PDF so that you can magnify its details. Here are some of the options I was thinking about: 1. See if there is a PDF of the map online through the Friends Historical Library of Swarthmore College 2. Ask the Historical Society of Pennsylvania if they have scanned the original or if they have transposed all the names and where the land is located for each owner. 3. Use a magnifying glass 4. Ask my husband to fiddle with it using "photoshop" to see if the detail can be magnified. I personally opted for number 4; I will let you know how that goes :). Kim Townsend Spangrude On Jun 3, 2006, at 8:31 PM, Mal Humes wrote: > I would appreciate a copy of this if you can email it to me. > > Thanks and regards, > > Malcolm > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kim Spangrude [mailto:kimspangrude@mac.com] > Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 7:39 PM > To: PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PaOldC] RE: Land patents/grants > > > This may or may not be helpful, but here goes: When I was in > Philadelphia two weeks ago, I visited the old Quaker Meeting House in > downtown Philadelphia, just down the street from Independence Hall. > They had a few relics hanging on the walls from old Quakers, and I > noticed a reproduction of the map that showed all of the land owners > and where their property was; the explanation hanging next to this > reproduction stated that the land owners were assigned their property > when they were still in England, before they came to Pennsylvania. I > took a picture of the map, if anyone is interested. I found my early > Richard Townsend ancestor on the map. > Kim Townsend Spangrude > On Jun 3, 2006, at 4:42 PM, Anna B wrote: > >> this site has, primarily, documents dated 1820 or after; however, >> there are >> some very early ones. >> Anna > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== Unsubscribing.... To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in the message or subject slot. NO VIRUS WARNINGS - if you are concerned contact me PERSONALLY ferg@ntelos.net If you have ANY problems, do not send them to the list contact me personally....list manager ferg@ntelos.net ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

This may or may not be helpful, but here goes: When I was in Philadelphia two weeks ago, I visited the old Quaker Meeting House in downtown Philadelphia, just down the street from Independence Hall. They had a few relics hanging on the walls from old Quakers, and I noticed a reproduction of the map that showed all of the land owners and where their property was; the explanation hanging next to this reproduction stated that the land owners were assigned their property when they were still in England, before they came to Pennsylvania. I took a picture of the map, if anyone is interested. I found my early Richard Townsend ancestor on the map. Kim Townsend Spangrude On Jun 3, 2006, at 4:42 PM, Anna B wrote: > this site has, primarily, documents dated 1820 or after; however, > there are > some very early ones. > Anna > > >> [Original Message] >> From: <JeanPaoca@aol.com> >> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: 5/23/06 2:46:52 PM >> Subject: Land patents/grants >> >> _Click here: Home - BLM GLO Records_ (http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/) >> >> A section from the Bureau of Land Management: >> >> Since 1989, Eastern States has been protecting and automating the > historic >> land patent documents for the Secretary of the Interior. As the >> successor >> agency to the original General Land Office (GLO), we maintain more >> than > nine >> million historic land documents— survey plats and field notes, > homestead patents, >> military warrants, and railroad grants. These historic documents were > among >> the very first land records to result from theLand Ordinance of 1785, > which >> authorized the transfer of public lands to private individuals. Even > today, >> these records are valuable resources for natural resource agencies, > historians, >> title companies and genealogists. >> Many of the documents are now computerized and are accessible via the >> Internet through the GLO Records Web site located at > _www.glorecords.blm.gov_ >> (http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/) . Over 4.2 million land patent >> records > from across >> the United States are now online, and 3 million have been imaged for >> the > 30 >> public land states. Project completion of the remaining 2 million >> Since 1989, Eastern States has been protecting and automating the > historic >> land patent documents for the Secretary of the Interior. As the >> successor >> agency to the original General Land Office (GLO), we maintain more >> than > nine >> million historic land documents— survey plats and field notes, > homestead patents, >> military warrants, and railroad grants. These historic documents were > among >> the very first land records to result from theLand Ordinance of 1785, > which >> authorized the transfer of public lands to private individuals. Even > today, >> these records are valuable resources for natural resource agencies, > historians, >> title companies and genealogists. >> Many of the documents are now computerized and are accessible via the >> Internet through the GLO Records Web site located at > _www.glorecords.blm.gov_ >> (http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/) . Over 4.2 million land patent >> records > from across >> the United States are now online, and 3 million have been imaged for >> the > 30 >> public land states. Project completion of the remaining 2 million > records is >> expected in about 5 years. Through this valuable Web site, field > employees >> can easily check land ownership status from their desks and >> genealogists > can >> trace family histories through land ownership. The Web site has been > accessed >> more than 6,752,000 times (as of October, 2005) since its inception, > making it >> one of the most popular Web sites in the Department of the Interior. >> records is expected in about 5 years. Through this valuable Web site, > field >> employees can easily check land ownership status from their desks and >> genealogists can trace family histories through land ownership. The >> Web > site has >> been accessed more than 6,752,000 times (as of October, 2005) since >> its >> inception, making it one of the most popular Web sites in the >> Department > of the >> Interior. > > > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribing. To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to > PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com > with the single word unsubscribe in the message or subject slot." > > > NO VIRUS WARNINGS - if you are concerned contact me PERSONALLY > ferg@ntelos.net > > Visit the archives for this list to view old postings > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=PA-OLD- > CHESTER > If you have ANY problems, do not send them to the list > contact me personally....list manager ferg@ntelos.net > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx? > sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Yet another spelling from Futhey and Cope; Court records; Potential fathers for Thomas.... James Swaffard 1698 on a jury.... Wm Swafford served on a jury in 1699. from Futhey and Cope...a Wm Swarfar owned 237 acres in Westtown, in 1703 (the only one, any spelling, mentioned in F&C) . I have Thomas Swaffer born 1703 Chester County, Pa. It is from a totally unreliable source -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.0/353 - Release Date: 5/31/2006

this site has, primarily, documents dated 1820 or after; however, there are some very early ones. Anna > [Original Message] > From: <JeanPaoca@aol.com> > To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 5/23/06 2:46:52 PM > Subject: Land patents/grants > > _Click here: Home - BLM GLO Records_ (http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/) > > A section from the Bureau of Land Management: > > Since 1989, Eastern States has been protecting and automating the historic > land patent documents for the Secretary of the Interior. As the successor > agency to the original General Land Office (GLO), we maintain more than nine > million historic land documents��� survey plats and field notes, homestead patents, > military warrants, and railroad grants. These historic documents were among > the very first land records to result from theLand Ordinance of 1785, which > authorized the transfer of public lands to private individuals. Even today, > these records are valuable resources for natural resource agencies, historians, > title companies and genealogists. > Many of the documents are now computerized and are accessible via the > Internet through the GLO Records Web site located at _www.glorecords.blm.gov_ > (http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/) . Over 4.2 million land patent records from across > the United States are now online, and 3 million have been imaged for the 30 > public land states. Project completion of the remaining 2 million > Since 1989, Eastern States has been protecting and automating the historic > land patent documents for the Secretary of the Interior. As the successor > agency to the original General Land Office (GLO), we maintain more than nine > million historic land documents��� survey plats and field notes, homestead patents, > military warrants, and railroad grants. These historic documents were among > the very first land records to result from theLand Ordinance of 1785, which > authorized the transfer of public lands to private individuals. Even today, > these records are valuable resources for natural resource agencies, historians, > title companies and genealogists. > Many of the documents are now computerized and are accessible via the > Internet through the GLO Records Web site located at _www.glorecords.blm.gov_ > (http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/) . Over 4.2 million land patent records from across > the United States are now online, and 3 million have been imaged for the 30 > public land states. Project completion of the remaining 2 million records is > expected in about 5 years. Through this valuable Web site, field employees > can easily check land ownership status from their desks and genealogists can > trace family histories through land ownership. The Web site has been accessed > more than 6,752,000 times (as of October, 2005) since its inception, making it > one of the most popular Web sites in the Department of the Interior. > records is expected in about 5 years. Through this valuable Web site, field > employees can easily check land ownership status from their desks and > genealogists can trace family histories through land ownership. The Web site has > been accessed more than 6,752,000 times (as of October, 2005) since its > inception, making it one of the most popular Web sites in the Department of the > Interior.