I looked for the name Matiniconk, and can't find it anywhere. Did find the following, though. Aug 22, 1683, Otto Ernest Cock agreed to surrender Tinicum Island to Arnoldus de la Grange, who claimed title through purchase of the island by his father, from Armegot Printz. De la Grange then sold the island on 2 Feb 1683/4, to Christopher Taylor. Sandra -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.4/375 - Release Date: 6/25/2006

I have Rev. Cuthbertson's register 1751-1791, and the only one of the Kerr surname, or Carr......is the following; J. Brownlie and Jean Ker., m. May 2, 1758. (I found it interesting that, in both the inclusion, PLUS in the Index, her name is Ker., Jean there is a period after the surname, and this isn't done with other names I can see....could it be an indication that it is shortened, perhaps from Kerr? just a guess on my part. I checked on the Kern folks in a book I have on York Co church records, and all the Kerns included were Germanic....with given names like Friederich and Johannes, etc.....and in Lutheran churches....so, I wouldn't just accept Kern as a variation of Kerr S. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.4/375 - Release Date: 6/25/2006

>Did the name Kerr ever evolve into Kern? Yes. I just mentioned this is another post, but I'll include this here: Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 Page 407. J. Daniel Kerns, at Falls Twp., Pennsbury Manor, August 20, 1814. Proved August 26, 1814. To be interred at German Lutheran Church, Phila. John Gier, Mayor of Phila. and Adolph Aaronhoes, exrs. Jacob Lut $100 Anne Jean Newman, $500. "Everything here and in the South to be divided equally between my heirs in Europe and America." Blacks in Carolinas to choose their masters, under their Guardian Reuben Flanagan. "Back Lands to be settled with I. F. Kerin." Watch at Balie's watch store on 2d St., Phila., to namesake John D. Kerr at Charlestown. Wits: Thomas Crozer and Alex. Quinton. (Heirs in Europe were Theodore Lazzani, in right of his wife and Dorothea Maria Cattarina Lagan). Letters to John Geyer and Adolph Ehrinhaus. I initially thouhgt maybe this was just a curious nod to a friend with a similar name, but the book on Walter Kerr's descendants seems to list a chapter on some Kern or Kerns line, which made this all the more memorable when I saw it. I wasn't really sure what to make of this as this Kerns seems likely to be German, but I would look at Kern as an alternate based on the book reference also. Other alterates appear to be Ker, Carr, Karr.

First of all, there is a complete copy of the text of Josiah Kerr's 1783 will, I believe in the USGENWEB files for York County. If you can't locate it I can find and send a copy or the link. It is the one cited in the will abstract summary Sandra posted. I also found a burial reference to Josiah from 1784: History of Cumberland and Adams Counties, Pennsylvania Chicago: Warner, Beers & Co., 1886 Part III, History of Adams County, Pages 333-341 CHAPTER XLV. STRABAN TOWNSHIP. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/adams/ "The "Pines" Presbyterian Church, a pioneer concern indeed, was contemporary with the old church of "Great Conowago." In the eastern end of the present St. Paul's Cemetery this church stood until 1803, when it was removed to give place to the first Union log church building at that point. Among the Irish Presbyterians interred there, headstones were erected to those named in the following list, name and date of death being given: William Long, 1806; John Monteith, 1789; Jennet, his wife, 1791; Alex McIntire, 1786; Marget Kerr, 1753; Archibald Douglass, 1762; Hugh Caldwell, 1785; Josiah Kerr, 1784; Mary, his wife, 1801; Mary Kerr, 1814; George Horn, 1832; Arch Coulter, 1806; Susanna Coulter, 1814; ELinor Coulter, 1815; Martha Coulter, 1811; Robert Sturgeon, 1759; Robert Lorimer, 1773; Margaret, wife of Robert McCorkle, 1809; William McFarland, 1782; Thomas McCauslin, 1789; Nanie McFarland, 1782." I have an interest in Kerrs and Carrs, specifically in William Kerr whose daughter Rachel married William Steele of Drumore, Sadsbury Twp, Lancaster County PA. Rachel CARR Sex: F Birth: 1726 in MD Death: 8 APR 1798 in Chestnut Level, Drumore Township, Lancaster County, PA Burial: Lower Cemetery, Chestnut Level Presyberian Church, Lancaster County, PA Marriage 1 William STEELE b: 1715 in Lancaster County, PA . Married: ABT 1740 in PA Children Archibald STEELE b: 1741 in Chestnut Level, Drumore Township, Lancaster County, PA Ann STEELE b: 26 MAR 1744 in Chestnut Level, Drumore Township, Lancaster County, PA Rachel STEELE b: ABT 1746 in Chestnut Level, Drumore Township, Lancaster County, PA Elizabeth STEELE b: 1748 in Chestnut Level, Drumore Township, Lancaster County, PA William STEELE b: 30 JUL 1750 in Chestnut Level, Drumore Township, Lancaster County, PA Leah STEELE b: 7 JUN 1755 in Chestnut Level, Drumore Township, Lancaster County, PA John Francis STEELE b: 5 JUN 1758 in Chestnut Level, Drumore Township, Lancaster County, PA Samuel STEELE b: 20 AUG 1760 in Chestnut Level, Drumore Township, Lancaster County, PA Mary STEELE b: 9 JUL 1763 in Chestnut Level, Drumore Township, Lancaster County, PA James STEELE b: 1765 in Chestnut Level, Drumore Township, Lancaster County, PA Joseph STEELE b: 11 JUL 1768 in Chestnut Level, Drumore Township, Lancaster County, PA I suspect that my William Kerr is related to the Scottish Covenanter Walter Ker who was banished from Scotland in 1685 and settled in New Jersey, though I have no evidence of this yet. After seeing many refernces such as "Walter Ker of Dalserf, Lanarkshire, banished in 1685, settled in Freehold, and was active in organizing the Presbyterian Church there, one of the oldest in New Jersey." I know that some the Kerrs I find info in the 18ths century PA area were Presbyterian Reverends and I see some evidence of them being involved in various Presbyterian churches. I can't find my book on Head of Christiana Church in Delaware but I am fairly sure a Kerr is referenced as an early Church Elder there. Per Egle's Notes and Queries, Donegal Church in 1776 had a William, Mary, Samuel, Joseph, Ruth & Elizbeth Kerr on pew 92. William married Mary Bayley, dughter of Thomas and Mary Bayley. This Mary Kerr was a sister of James and John Bayley and Ruth Anderson. I have a lot more info on Bayleys I didn't finish compiling yet that was intended as a follow-up on some recent queries and some of my own Bailey family research. There's an autobiographical book by Stephen Collins, M.D., online at the LIbrary of Congress, who notes that his mother was the great granddaughter of Walter Ker. There may be some interesting info on that line in his book, found here: <http://rs6.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?ammem/lhbcb:@field(DOCID+@lit(lhbcb29992 ))> The LOC added a footnote there: "Walter Ker came to America from Scotland in 1685, when in the thirtieth year of his age. The vessel, the Caledonia, was stranded on the coast of New Jersey, near Freehold, where the passengers settled and erected a church. The ruins of the old building and a graveyard are still there. He died in the ninety-ninth year of his age." There is a book on this family and CD versions of this are circulating on Ebay: The Kerr Clan of New Jersey : beginning with Walter Ker of Freehold and including other related lines Compiled by William C. Armstrong Morrison, Ill.: Shawver Pub. Co., 1931, 200 pgs. Table of Contents Walter Ker of Freehold, N. J. Indians at Freehold, N. J. Walter Ker's grandchildren Joseph Kerr and Elsie Hampton Ira Kerr and Phebe Read George Kerr and Emaline Ross Whiskey insurrection Aaron Kerr and Sarah Peppard Joseph Kerr of the yellow frame Walter Craig Kerr Rev. Francis peppard of yellow frame James Kerr of Florence, Washington County, PA. Kerrs of Gettysburg, and of Harrison Co., Ohio Kerrs of Venango County, PA. Mathew Kerr of Perry County, PA. Kerrs of Erie County, PA. Kerrs From Selkirk, Scotland George Kerr of Old Deer, Scotland Kerrs of Chillisquaque, PA. David Kerr of Tennessee and Indiana Kerrs from Londonderry, Ireland Kerrs of Beaver County, PA. David Kerr and Cornelia Chamberlain The crippled Sspie Kerns at Forks of Delaware Indian troubles at the works Captain Rosburgh murdered Rev. Francis Peppard at the Forks James Kerr of the Forks David Kerr of the Forks Jean Kerr Horner Prominent family of the South Willaim Kerr of Carlisle, PA. James Kerr of Pigeon Creek, PA. Kerrs in the Catskills Karrs of Warren Co., N. J. Six Kerr brothers of Philadelphia James Kerr of Ivy Creek, Albemarle County, VA. William Kerr and Sarah Dial of Ramsey, ALA. I included that whole TOC because it shows some of the possible scope of related families. While I was researching PA Wills I noticed that one Kerns had left property to his "namesake" who had same first name and middle initial but the last name of Kerr. That implied, and the TOC for the book also suggests that the name Kerns is a variant. I recently made a list of almost all wills referencing Kerr and Carr in early PA wills. There are quite a few and I'm sure many are not related to the above. There are too many to post but I can email a summary to anyone interetsed in these surnames. I didn't try searching for any under Ker or Kerns, and I skipped most of the ones referencing Kerr witnesses only and a few 1800's wills. There were far too many and I was mostly focused on the early ones. There are Kerr reverends in the Early Presbyterian pages I host, found at: http://mal.net/EarlyPresbyterians/presbiol.htm#Rev.%20Jacob%20Ker Rev. Jacob Ker (pre 1740-1795) He was a grandson of the well-known Walter Ker, of Freehold, New Jersey who was banished from Scotland in 1685 "for his faithful adherence to God and His truth, as professed by the Church of Scotland." The subject of this sketch after graduating at Princeton, acted as a Tutor from 1760 to 1762. In 1763 he was licensed by the Presbytery of New Brunswick, an was ordained by the same Presbytery in 1764. On the 29th of August, in the same year, he was installed pastor of the churches of Monokin and Wicomico, Maryland, where he remained until his death, July 29th, 1795. Rev. Nathan Ker (pre 1740-1804) He went to Princeton College, from the congregation of William Tennent, of Freehold, New Jersey. He was licensed by the Presbytery of New Brunswick in 1762, and ordained August 17th, 1763, and in 1766 was settled as pastor of the Presbyterian Church in Goshen, New York where he remained until his death, December 14th, 1804. Mr. Ker served for some time as a volunteer chaplain in the army. Hon. John Kerr (b. 1796) He was born in the vicinity of Huntingdon, Pennsylvania, April 1st, 1796. He lived and died upon the farm on which he was born. His name appears on the records of Presbytery as the elder representing the congregations of Huntingdon, early in the year 1823, when he was only twenty-seven years of age, and almost continuously from that time his name appears on the minutes of Presbytery as the elder representing the congregation. He gave his time and money without stint to the church. Mr. Kerr was appointed one of the Associate Judges of the county of Huntingdon, as is believed, by a Governor who was not of the same party in politics with himself. Rev. William Kerr (1777-1823) He was born in Bart Township, Lancaster county, Pennsylvania, in 1777; was educated at the Institution which afterwards became Jefferson College, studied theology, partly under the Rev. Dr. Sample, and partly at Princeton, was settled in the ministry at Donegal, Lancaster co., Pennsylvania, about 1809, and died in 1823, in his forty-seventh year. Here is a bio for Rev. Cuthbertson since he wsa also referencd in the Kerr query regarding property in Lancaster: Rev. John Cutherbertson (d 1791) >From National Genealogical Society Quarterly, Vol XX. No. 4. December, 1932, pp. 16-18. COVENANTERS AND THE WORK OF REV. JOHN CUTHBERTSON By Miss S. Helen Fields, Washington, D.C. ... Into the midst of these distressed but brave people came John Cuthbertson, sent by the Presbytery of Scotland because of their leading for an Under Shepherd. He set foot on American soil at New Castle, Delaware, August 5, 1751. With him came his sister, Mrs. Archibald Bourne, with her husband and infant son John, and a colony of Covenanters. Mr. Cuthbertson was the First Reformed Presbyterian Missionary to come to America. Young, fearless, and imbued with a God-like spirit, he began his work without delay, and throughout the years strubbled long distances on horseback and on foot (usually from his headquarters at Middle Octorara, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania) over mountain and stream, to bring consolation to his fellow countrymen and to others. He frequently speaks of being cold, sick, hungry, distressed in body and mind, molested, but still never faltered in the task he had set before him. We find him, old and broken, carrying on up to a few months before his death in 1791. Sandra noted previously on this query a year or two ago: "I have excerpts from the Diary of the Rev. John Cuthbertson, 1751-1781. He was a reformed Pres. minister in Adams, York and Lancaster. Most Presbyterians of this region belonged to the main branch of colonial Presbyterianism as represented by the Synod of Philadelphia, but there was also a congregation of Reformed Presbyterians, or Covenanters. Rev Dr John Cuthertson was sent from Scotland to minister to Scottish Covenanters in America, in 1751, the first Reformed Presbyterian missionary to come to the Americas. He kept a diary from the date he arrived in America up to 1791. The Register of Marriages and Baptisms performed by Rev John Cuthbertson, by S. Hellen Fields, was originally printed in 1934, reprinted 1983 by Genealogical Publishing Co, Baltimore." Back to Walter Ker and NJ, another bio of a descendant noted: "The original emigrant of the family to America was Walter Ker (name was formerly written with one r), who was born in Scotland in 1657, and settled in Freehold, New Jersey, in 1686. Two of his sons were Samuel and William. One of whom, Samuel Ker, was the father of Joseph Kerr, who was the father of Samuel, Lewis, William, Aaron and Jacob Kerr." Two of trhe other will abrastracts I found curious are below. The one is in Sadsbury, where I find the William Steele family of Drumore, and the other has Cecil County ties and a curious reference to a mother that apparently remarried as a Thompson. Thompsons are an allied line of my Robert Bailey line and marry ihis daughter, who was also of Sadsbury, and my other ties to the Kerrs via Steeles have some ties to Cecil County and those Baileys. The other two just struck me as curious because of the ealy dates close to the dates of death of John Carr/Kerr. KERR, DANIEL. May 30, 1754. Sadsbury. Adm. to Robert & Thomas Kerr. CARR, WILLIAM. City of Phila. Boat Builder. April 18, 1786. May 9, 1786. T.322. Estate in Cecil Co., Maryland. Mother: Elizabeth Thompson. Mother's Children by her present Husband John Thompson. Sister: Sarah Carr. Exec: Uncle George Ord, Sarah Carr. Wit: Anthony Pearson, John Hunn, R. Whitehead. Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 May 19, 1748 July 27, 1748 KERR, JAMES Wife. (name omitted). Children: John, Joseph, William, Mary, James and Nathaniel. Ex. James Morrison and Thomas Elder. Paxton Twp. KERR, THOMAS. City of Philadelphia. Plasterer. September 9, 1744. September 19, 1744. G.143. Wife: Elizabeth. Children: John, James and Thomas. Exec: Elizabeth Kerr. Witnesses: John Stephen, John McKnight and James Forster.

The Duke of York record has a confirmation of a land grant to one "Andren CARR and Margerite his wife" for "Matiniconk Island in Delaware River" on October 1, 1669. See page 141 of the book, _Original Land Titles in Delaware Commonly Known as the Duke of York Record._ Noted in this doc is that Marguerite was prevoiusly the wife of Joost De La Grange. Therefore this Matiniconk Island (of which there were several by that name in the Delaware River) is also known as Tinicum island, and is the one sold by Armgard Prinz (New Sweden Governor Johann Prinz's daughter) to Joost de la Grange in 1662. NB the place-name "Matiniconk" seems to be an Indian word in an Algonquian dialect that can be applied to various islands. I forget what the meaning is at the moment... the "kunk" or "konck" at the end means "place of." The Europeans seemed to apply the -um suffix in place of the -kunk suffix to place-names in much the same way they sometimes Latinized thair names in documents, as in "Antonius" for "Anthony" or "Antoine." This place is now a bit south of where Philadelphia International Airport is, but I am not sure if it's still an island. This map here, while representing events which took place about a hundred years later, does show the area in detail: http://home.comcast.net/~fredra/MifflinSW.jpg Now: A John CARRE also appears in the Duke of York record. Page 160, "Captain John CARRE" had (past tense?) land at one time at New Castle (town). Looks like it had been transferred to "Charles Floyd and John Henry &c" by September 1669. Okay, I'm back to work. Best, Liz J

In issue #18 of Swedish Colonial News is a chart created by Dr Peter Stebbins Craig, "A Guide to New Sweden Forefathers." This contains the names of the new Sweden residents who left descendents in the PA-Delaware-Maryland and NJ region which comprised New Sweden. The name of the emigrant, the surname of the family, the year of death of the original emigrant, and the (now) state(s) in which the family lived all appear on this single chart. In this issue on page 5 (of the online version) Dr. Craig gives refs to other works of his containing more info on the New Sweden residents, and explains how the chart is set up. http://www.colonialswedes.org/Publications/SCNews.html This looks to be a very handy resource. Enjoy, Liz J

Did the name Kerr ever evolve into Kern? >From: "Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@ntelos.net> >To: PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Kerr family >Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 09:32:40 -0400 > >I'm always interested in our Swedish ancestors, and so tried to find Kerr >in the #19.....but couldn't .....as you know where his name is located, >could you let us know in what article, or just copy and paste it to the >list? > I have Dr Craig's wonderful book on THE SWEDES ON THE DELAWARE....1693 >CENSUS ....and, cannot find any reference to Carr/Kerr, etc in the index. >As this is, as the title suggests, a book about those considered Swedes >(and Finns, etc) who lived in New Sweden, and who are included in that 1693 >census......but, not everyone who lived in the colony.....so, Englishmen, >etc generally aren't in the book. > > S. > >One John CARR is noted by Dr. Peter Stebbins Craig to have come to the New >Sweden colony. >He is mentioned in SCS Newsletter, #19, of 1999. >(this link will take you to all of those available online) >http://www.colonialswedes.org/Publications/SCNews.html > > > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.4/375 - Release Date: 6/25/2006 > > >==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== >Unsubscribing.... To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to >PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in >the message or subject slot. > > >NO VIRUS WARNINGS - if you are concerned contact me PERSONALLY >ferg@ntelos.net > >please visit the Chester Co rootsweb site...it is full of area photos, >helpful URLs and lots of county information >http://www.pa-roots.com/~chester/ > >If you have ANY problems, do not send them to the list >contact me personally....list manager ferg@ntelos.net > >============================== >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Eleanor: Here is some Maris information on the Mendenhall Family Association Websit under "MFA Images and Documents":: A. http://www.mendenhall.org Mendenhall Family Association. B.. http://www.mendenhall.org/mfa/images/index.html MFA Images and Documents (I couldn't get it posted last evening, but hope that it will go this morning.) Violet Moore Guy ----- Original Message ----- From: <Erayl@aol.com> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 12:03 AM Subject: [PaOldC] Re: David Harry > Is this Richard Moris/Maris mentioned below the son of George Maris of > Springfield Twp? Richard Maris was born 20 Nov 1672 Inkborough, Worchestershire, > England, died 1745 Springfield, Chester Co (now Delaware Co), PA. I have his wife > as Elizabeth Hayes b. 1698 PA, d. 9 Aug 172 Springfield, with daughters Mary, > Elizabeth and Ann along with sons, Jonathon and Joseph. Is Elizabeth Powell a > second wife and mother of these girls? > > BTW, Richard Maris' 1705 home on his father's original tract of 1683 is still > standing in Springfield. > > Eleanor > > > > <<POWELL, ANN. Wife of David. Marple. March 4, 1722. March 11, 1722.To son > > = > > in=20 > > law Richard Moris of Springfield and daughter Elizabeth his wife =A3120, = > > he=20 > > paying to my husband David Powell, =A35 yearly, so long as he continues=20 > > unmarried and at his decease pay to their 3 daughters, viz,Mary, Elizabeh= > > =20 > > and Ann =A330 each. To son in law Evan Lewis and my daughter Mary his wif= > > e=20 > > =A310, they paying to husband =A35 yearly. To kinswoman Rachel Merick of=20 > > Philadelphia =A310. To friends John Salkeld, John Lea and Joseph Selby =A3= > > 5=20 > > each. To my husbands 2 daughter, viz Lydia wife of David Harry and Mary w= > > ife=20 > > of Lewis Lewis 20 shillings each and to the 2 eldest children of Lewis=20 > > Lewis, that is Anne and Phineas 10 shillings each. To John Powell of Marp= > > le=20 > > 40 shillings. To granddaughter Hannah, daughter of Evan Lewis, bed etc.=20 > > Mentions Ann daughter of Evan Lewis. To my husband's son Saml. Powell 20=20 > > shillings. Remainder to Elizabeth Mario. Executors: sons in law, Richard=20 > > Maris and Evan Lewis.Witnesses: John Broomfield, Mary Broomfield, Lidia=20 > > Thompson.>> > > > > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribing. To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to > PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com > with the single word unsubscribe in the message or subject slot." > > > NO VIRUS WARNINGS - if you are concerned contact me PERSONALLY ferg@ntelos.net > > Visit the archives for this list to view old postings > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=PA-OLD-CHESTER > > If you have ANY problems, do not send them to the list..contact me personally....list manager ferg@ntelos.net > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Sandra and others interested, > I have Dr Craig's wonderful book on THE SWEDES ON THE DELAWARE....1693 > CENSUS ....and, cannot find any reference to Carr/Kerr, etc in the index. Yep, I can believe that. I also checked SCS #19 of 1999, for mention of the John CARR which appears in Dr. Craig's index. In that entire issue I also failed to find mention of this man by the name of CARR or KERR. I had copied/pasted the info from Craig's index to the list here. But I think perhaps in this case Dr. Craig's index has a typo. Either the ref to the Volume number is incorrect... or the name itself contains a typo. When I get time, I will re-read through all the volumes of the SCS Newsletter, which I am methodically doing anyway, but for now, all I can say is, since John CARR appears in Dr Craig's index, he is probably mentioned in some volume or other of the SCS Newsletter. > I have Dr Craig's wonderful book on THE SWEDES ON THE DELAWARE....1693 > CENSUS ....and, cannot find any reference to Carr/Kerr, etc in the index. That is disappointing. Perhaps the Newsletter. If one wanted to dig a little more for John CARR, next I would also suggect checking Louhi's work called (I think) _History of the Finns on the Delaware_, which is also online in toto, and which does also seem to have good detail about the names (and origins) of various emigrants to the New Sweden colony. I could provide a link to that also if needed after I get free from what I am into at the mo... for now, google | Louhi + Delaware Finns | which should return a hit for the online version of that book. To find John CARR/KERR in Louhi's work, I would suggest starting with the voyage number (10) given by Dr Craig. Details of that voyage can be selected from the contents links, which are organized by the number of the voyage. One final comment: "John" isn't really a Swedish or Finnish (or Dutch) given-name. If "John CARR" really was an emigrant to New Sweden, then would expect to find a name similar to "Hans." And good luck again, Liz J

I'm always interested in our Swedish ancestors, and so tried to find Kerr in the #19.....but couldn't .....as you know where his name is located, could you let us know in what article, or just copy and paste it to the list? I have Dr Craig's wonderful book on THE SWEDES ON THE DELAWARE....1693 CENSUS ....and, cannot find any reference to Carr/Kerr, etc in the index. As this is, as the title suggests, a book about those considered Swedes (and Finns, etc) who lived in New Sweden, and who are included in that 1693 census......but, not everyone who lived in the colony.....so, Englishmen, etc generally aren't in the book. S. One John CARR is noted by Dr. Peter Stebbins Craig to have come to the New Sweden colony. He is mentioned in SCS Newsletter, #19, of 1999. (this link will take you to all of those available online) http://www.colonialswedes.org/Publications/SCNews.html -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.4/375 - Release Date: 6/25/2006

At Chester Monthly Meeting.9-22-1775,Springfield Meeting brought a complaint against Caleb Davis,Thomas Levis,Joseph Lownes,Nathaniel Vernon,Nathaniel Vernon Jr,Thomas Vernon,Jonathan Vernon Jr.and Joseph Taylor for being concerned in military preperations and combinations respecting government.George Miller,William Fell,Nathan Yarnall and Joseph Talbot Jr.were appointed to visit them. 10-30-1775:The Friends appointed to treat with those under our name who have so far deviated from our peaceable Principles as to be concerned in exercising themselves in the Military service,report they or some of them had an opportunity with Caleb Davis,Thomas Levis,Joseph Lownes, Nathaniel Vernon,Jonathan Vernon Jr.and Joseph Taylor & treated with them,but they did not appear convinced of their Misconduct. Notwithstanding this Meeting concludes to wait one Month longer,And the committee is desired to use their Endeavour to treat with ye other two. 11-27-1775:The case of Caleb Davis,Thomas Levis,Joseph Lownes,Nathaniel Vernon,Jonathan Vernon Jr.& Joseph Taylor coming under consideration, Divers of the committee heretofore appointed report they had another opportunity with such of them as desired it.They do not appear inclinable to desist from Exercising in the Military service.Some of the committee report they had an opportunity with Nathaniel Vernon Jr.He appeared much in the same Disposition.This Meeting declares the said Caleb Davis,Thomas Levis,Joseph Lownes,Nathaniel Vernon,Nathaniel Vernon Jr.,Jonathan Vernon Jr.& Joseph Taylor to be no members of our Society. William Malin,Peter Taylor and William Fell are appointed to imform them thereof And of their Privilege of Appealing. The will of Joseph Lownes,of Springfield,is dated May 14,1780,and proven June 20,1780.He devised to his brother Hugh that part of the plantation where he then dwelt,lying on the west side of the road leading from Springfield Meeting House to Chester;also the stock thereon,excepting one colt,he paying debts and some legacies:To sister Sarah Lownes six hundred pennyweights of pure and good gold,or as much of the Bills of Credit of this Commonwealth as will purchase it:To sister Alice,wife of William Temple,300 dwts of like gold:To Elizabeth Redman 41 1/2 dwts of gold,it being a debt and not a legacy:To brother George Lownes that part of the plantation lying on the east side of the said road he paying to Mary Conoby,a bound girl,30 dwts of gold when free:Executor,brother Hugh:Witnesses,Harvey Lewis,Caleb Davis. ----- Original Message ----- From: "cunhel" <cunhel@comcast.net> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 12:35 AM Subject: [PaOldC] Curtis Lownes/ Caleb Davis > Is anyone familiar with the Caleb Davis who settled in Clearfied County > early in its settlement? > I believe that he commanded the militia unit, under Captain Curtis Lownes, > that my 5th great-grandfather served in from Chester County. > > His name appears on the tax rolls and the census until 1830, but I haven't > seen anything else written about him. > > Michele > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribing. To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to > PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com > with the single word unsubscribe in the message or subject slot." > > > NO VIRUS WARNINGS - if you are concerned contact me PERSONALLY > ferg@ntelos.net > > please visit the Chester Co rootsweb site...it is full of area photos, > helpful URLs and lots of county information > http://www.pa-roots.com/~chester/ > > Visit the archives for this list to view old postings > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=PA-OLD-CHESTER > If you have ANY problems, do not send them to the list > contact me personally....list manager ferg@ntelos.net > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

No, they're not.....they are 2 distinctly different names....not used in exchange for eachother, or nicknames, etc... S. ." Can we conclude that Elizabeth and Sibilla/Sybill are different forms of the same name " -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.4/375 - Release Date: 6/25/2006

Is anyone familiar with the Caleb Davis who settled in Clearfied County early in its settlement? I believe that he commanded the militia unit, under Captain Curtis Lownes, that my 5th great-grandfather served in from Chester County. His name appears on the tax rolls and the census until 1830, but I haven't seen anything else written about him. Michele

Is this Richard Moris/Maris mentioned below the son of George Maris of Springfield Twp? Richard Maris was born 20 Nov 1672 Inkborough, Worchestershire, England, died 1745 Springfield, Chester Co (now Delaware Co), PA. I have his wife as Elizabeth Hayes b. 1698 PA, d. 9 Aug 172 Springfield, with daughters Mary, Elizabeth and Ann along with sons, Jonathon and Joseph. Is Elizabeth Powell a second wife and mother of these girls? BTW, Richard Maris' 1705 home on his father's original tract of 1683 is still standing in Springfield. Eleanor > <<POWELL, ANN. Wife of David. Marple. March 4, 1722. March 11, 1722.To son > = > in=20 > law Richard Moris of Springfield and daughter Elizabeth his wife =A3120, = > he=20 > paying to my husband David Powell, =A35 yearly, so long as he continues=20 > unmarried and at his decease pay to their 3 daughters, viz,Mary, Elizabeh= > =20 > and Ann =A330 each. To son in law Evan Lewis and my daughter Mary his wif= > e=20 > =A310, they paying to husband =A35 yearly. To kinswoman Rachel Merick of=20 > Philadelphia =A310. To friends John Salkeld, John Lea and Joseph Selby =A3= > 5=20 > each. To my husbands 2 daughter, viz Lydia wife of David Harry and Mary w= > ife=20 > of Lewis Lewis 20 shillings each and to the 2 eldest children of Lewis=20 > Lewis, that is Anne and Phineas 10 shillings each. To John Powell of Marp= > le=20 > 40 shillings. To granddaughter Hannah, daughter of Evan Lewis, bed etc.=20 > Mentions Ann daughter of Evan Lewis. To my husband's son Saml. Powell 20=20 > shillings. Remainder to Elizabeth Mario. Executors: sons in law, Richard=20 > Maris and Evan Lewis.Witnesses: John Broomfield, Mary Broomfield, Lidia=20 > Thompson.>> >

Further concerning Elizabeth Harry who m. Timothy Kirk. The Merion Burial Records show that Timothy was the son of Alphonsus and Abigail Sharpley Kirk. Timothy's first wife is given as Sarah William(s) dau. of Robert Williams, Jr. and Gwen Cadwallader. All of these families were, with Daniel and Hugh Harry, early settlers in the Welsh community in Merion and listed as first purchasers of the allotted lands. They came to Pennsylvania with other Quakers between 1680 and 1700. Marj in NC -----Original Message----- From: eeyore [mailto:eeyoresan@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 4:11 PM To: PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Sybill Price was she married to Daniel Harry or who? I have Elizabeth Or Sybil Price, Brecknock, Wales b. Abt. 1670, married Daniel Harry, b. Abt. 1663, Machynlleth, Mongomery, Wales. They married at Haverford, Radnor, PA. Daniel Came to America in Sep 1684 with his brother Hugh on the "Vine", that sailed out of Liverpool, England. Daniel Harris/Harry and Elizabeth/Sybil Price had a daughter Elizabeth Harry b. Abt. 1691 Chester Co, PA and married John Davis, b. 1690 Wales. Daniel Harry was the son of Harry Thomas Owen and Elizabeth, married Abt. 1657, in Machynlleth, Powys, Wales. ______________________________

The Merion Meeting Burial Records include Daniel Harry who appears to be the Daniel Harry of this email message. The Merion Records also include Elizabeth Harry married to John Davis, and their daughter Sibilla Davis who married (his second wife) Timothy Kirk. Can we conclude that Elizabeth and Sibilla/Sybill are different forms of the same name ? Marj in NC -----Original Message----- From: eeyore [mailto:eeyoresan@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 4:11 PM To: PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Sybill Price was she married to Daniel Harry or who? I have Elizabeth Or Sybil Price, Brecknock, Wales b. Abt. 1670, married Daniel Harry, b. Abt. 1663, Machynlleth, Mongomery, Wales. They married at Haverford, Radnor, PA. Daniel Came to America in Sep 1684 with his brother Hugh on the "Vine", that sailed out of Liverpool, England. Daniel Harris/Harry and Elizabeth/Sybil Price had a daughter Elizabeth Harry b. Abt. 1691 Chester Co, PA and married John Davis, b. 1690 Wales. Daniel Harry was the son of Harry Thomas Owen and Elizabeth, married Abt. 1657, in Machynlleth, Powys, Wales. ______________________________

> Still searching for any info about a John KERRr(CARR) who apparently settled in Chester Cnty. after leaving "Unicorn Plantation, Talbot Manor, Maryland. He died 1743 in Chester Co. Don't know who they were but I think there were some CARR and/or KERR fairly early in New Castle County, Delaware, not very far away from your focus area. Here's a potential lead. I have nfi about this John CARR, but it might be worth checking if only to rule out: One John CARR is noted by Dr. Peter Stebbins Craig to have come to the New Sweden colony. Supposed to have arrived in the 10th voyage. Don't know what year that was, but must be 1638 or after, until 1656. He is mentioned in SCS Newsletter, #19, of 1999. (this link will take you to all of those available online) http://www.colonialswedes.org/Publications/SCNews.html Dr. Craig's cross-index to New Sweden Settlers is found here, quite a handy resource: http://www.genealogia.fi/emi/emi3d41ae.htm Best of luck, Liz J

Sandra Ferguson, I have located the Documents, that I have been familiar with since Fall 1998, for Thomas Pierson, the Surveyor for William Penn, which were written by Dan McEver. Dan McEver has long been an active researcher for MFA; and he is now serving his second term as President of the Mendenhall Family Association. Perhaps, you would be interested in also looking at the Mailing-List and/or at the Newsletters -- go to the MFA Website, posted below. I shall post the pathway to get to the Thomas Pierson documents on the MFA Website. A. http://www.mendenhall.org Mendenhall Family Association B. http://www.mendenhall.org/mfa/images/index.html MFA Images and Documents C. http://www.mendenhall.org/mfa/md/ Images and Documents collected by the Mendenhall Documents Committee: 1) http://www.mendenhall.org/mfa/md/tpierson.html Thomas Pierson Estate 2) Thomas Pierson, Surveyor Thomas Pierson, the Surveyor I am a descendent of Thomas Pierson, the Surveyor, through his daughter, Rose Pierson md. Aaron Mendenhall; and this Aaron is the son of John Mendenhall I md Elizebeth Maris, both are imirgants from England to Pennsylvania. Violet Moore Guy <guyj@starpower.net> 06/26/2006

Does "Daniel" appear often as a Welsh given name? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@ntelos.net> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 6:33 PM Subject: [PaOldC] Daniel Harry >I looked up Daniel Harry in Futhey and Cope....only mention is as a >purchaser of land in the Welsh Tract...1701.....he bought 300 acres.. I >looked for wills but the only one I found is in Berks Co; (and, adm papers >rather than a will) ....a son? > > HARRY, DANIEL, Cumru. December 8, 1758.Adm. to Mary HARRY, the widow. > > "I have Elizabeth Or Sybil Price, Brecknock, Wales b. Abt. 1670, married > Daniel Harry, b. Abt. 1663........" > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.4/375 - Release Date: 6/25/2006 > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribing..... To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to > PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com > with the single word unsubscribe in the message or subject slot." > > If you have ANY problems, do not send them to the list > contact me personally....list manager ferg@ntelos.net > > NO VIRUS WARNINGS...contact me personally ferg@ntelos.net if posted you > will be unsubscribed > > please visit the Chester Co rootsweb site...it is full of area photos, > helpful URLs and lots of county information > http://www.pa-roots.com/~chester/ > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

A Map Showing Some of the Former Landholders around Old Kennet Meeting Chester Co, Pa. Prepared by Gilbert Cope 1910 (BX77800 .K4A5 1910) Harris, Evan 430 as Harry, Amos Harry, Hugh 150 a