Guess I'll throw my 'two cents in' here as well. Another suggestion is to be sure to identify your notebooks, etc. I carry some extra address labels with me, which work great. Sometimes as researchers we may accidently leave a notebook, etc. behind. In a recent trip to York Co. PA Historical Society, we inadvertently left a spiral notebook, along with copies that we'd paid for. When I contacted the York Co. Librarian via email regarding this, they were able to locate the materials immediately and mailed them to me. I've also heard stories where researchers have left notebooks at courthouses, etc. and were able to retrieve them 'because they had their names, addresses on the front'. I normally carry several spiral notebooks, each labeled for the area of interest. As I'm reviewing my past research, before I leave, I can then write in what data I'm seeking, i.e. 'York Co. PA" or 'Ft. Wayne, Indiana', etc. & take those particular notebooks with me. Ronna, Newark, Ohio

ME, too! I will piggy back on Sandra's, Janean Ray's & Eleanor's posts. PLEASE, allow some time just to BROWSE! You might be suprised at what you will unexpectedly find in most unlikely spots! >>Case in point: In August 2005, my son and I drove from Southern Maryland to Richmond, Indiana for the Mendenhall Family Reunion. As we came into Preble County, OH on I-70, I said, "Remember they have this excellent library (Eaton Regional Library) in Preble County (Ohio), and we could stop and look for GGG-Grandfather James Moore, Sr, b.NC?TN?>E TN>OH". (Of course, I knew that I would probably find own research contributions there.)<<< But what was amazing was that Jeff started to look for a Francis Lucas, VA>IN, a Revolutionary War Patriot -- with 3 years of looking to no avail. It was so amazing what he found!! Certainly many things that we needed, including the family names of individuals that migrated with him, his bounty application -- and that he was denied more after two years of receiving a pension. Jeff then looked in to Virginia Tax Records (at OH Library) and found that indeed, our Patriot did have too many assets. When we got home, we further found that he had been selected from a group of men from his area -- known as the "Culpeper (VA) County Classes, 1781" -- (in reality, a draft to serve in the Revolutionary War)! Since then we have been able to put together his family line in Virginia>Indiana and on & on. We found much also in the Northern Neck Proprietary Records (VA) under Lord Fairfax --online at the Virginia State Library Jeff & I have browsed all over Cape Cod, Nantucket & Martha's Vineyard, MA -- even in to book warehouses, to find great results. On one trip of his trips, Jeff & his young daughter found both the SEARS and the PADDOCK Cemeteries in East Dennis, MA -- we frequented the E. Dennis Library. So, "Allow Browsing Time"!!! Violet Moore Guy Presently of St. Mary's County, "Maryland's First English Colony" 06/29/2006 ----- Original Message ----- From: <Erayl@aol.com> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 4:20 PM Subject: [PaOldC] Re: BEFORE you get there! > To piggyback on Sandra's suggestions, some libraries don't allow you to use > ink pens, so I suggest you bring a couple of pencils with you, too! > > Eleanor > Indianapolis > > > In a message dated 6/29/06 3:01:10 PM, Sandra Ferguson writes: > > > Be prepared that many larger libraries do not allow you to take in 1) > > cameras 2) computers 3) backpacks and bags of notebooks, etc...check with > > each one so you'll know to leave behind whatever it is you can't take in. > > I always prepare, to take with me, a list of the books they have that I want > > to see, along with pertinent #s.....I leave my purse behind and have money > > (take change for copy machines), picture ID (drivers license), in a small > > change purse I can keep in my pocket....otherwise you either have to drag > > your purse with you everywhere...into the stacks, etc..... or leave it on a > > table, which isn't safe. I also have a list I've made of what it is I want > > to find...and, I itemize. Believe me, when you get in there, it's very easy > > to forget something...so, write them down. There isn't a library that won't > > allow you to take in a tablet...keep your lists there and you'll be fine. > > > > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribing. To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to > PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com > with the single word unsubscribe in the message or subject slot." > > > NO VIRUS WARNINGS - if you are concerned contact me PERSONALLY ferg@ntelos.net > > Visit the archives for this list to view old postings > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=PA-OLD-CHESTER > If you have ANY problems, do not send them to the list > contact me personally....list manager ferg@ntelos.net > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

To piggyback on Sandra's suggestions, some libraries don't allow you to use ink pens, so I suggest you bring a couple of pencils with you, too! Eleanor Indianapolis In a message dated 6/29/06 3:01:10 PM, Sandra Ferguson writes: >    Be prepared that many larger libraries do not allow you to take in 1) > cameras 2) computers 3) backpacks and bags of notebooks, etc...check with > each one so you'll know to leave behind whatever it is you can't take in. > I always prepare, to take with me, a list of the books they have that I want > to see, along with pertinent #s.....I leave my purse behind and have money > (take change for copy machines), picture ID (drivers license), in a small > change purse I can keep in my pocket....otherwise you either have to drag > your purse with you everywhere...into the stacks, etc..... or leave it on a > table, which isn't safe.  I also have a list I've made of what it is I want > to find...and, I itemize.  Believe me, when you get in there, it's very easy > to forget something...so, write them down.  There isn't a library that won't > allow you to take in a tablet...keep your lists there and you'll be fine. >

You probably heard that from me....I've posted it many times before.....when I visit the LOC I go the evening before I wish to research there, fill out a card for EACH book I wish to see (from my list I brought with me), and give the attendants the maximum # they'll allow. These books will be pulled and waiting for you when you get there the next morning. Then, immediately give them the next 10 slips you've filled out (they'll only pull 10/hr)....with the ones they pulled in the night + the 10 new ones/hour, you won't be sitting there, twiddling your thumbs with nothing to do till they can get you more. However, this the LOC is the only library I've been to that has this policy. Thus, the MAJOR importance of doing your homework and knowing about each facility you wish to visit....believe me, they're all different. As far as the LOC goes, you must also have a picture ID made....so, don't neglect to have your drivers license with you...you'll need it as proof of who you are....have this made the evening before, when they're MUCH less busy, instead of in the morning when you wish to start researching. Also, the LOC has different hours at different times of the year, so don't 'assume' if they were open so and so in July that the hours will be the same in Nov. Homework, homework, homework.,,,,it's like the Boy Scout's motto....be prepared! S. "Another good tip I heard...... If you arrive in that town say mid afternoon and your plan is to hit the library, courthouse etc the next morning.... as Sandra said, check the hours.... but if you need books etc pulled..... drop off a list to them so it will be ready for you in the morning so what precious time you have there is not spent waiting for that process to be.............................................." -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: 6/28/2006

The Genealogical Society of PA and the Western PA Genealogical Soc. are co-sponsoring a first-ever Genealogical Conference in Pittsburgh, September 29-30. I'm looking for a female non-smoker to share a room (conference is at the Sheraton Station Square). If interested, please contact me at genlove@comcast.net. For info on the conference, go to www.pagenealogyconference.com. Thanks. Judy

Another good tip I heard...... If you arrive in that town say mid afternoon and your plan is to hit the library, courthouse etc the next morning.... as Sandra said, check the hours.... but if you need books etc pulled..... drop off a list to them so it will be ready for you in the morning so what precious time you have there is not spent waiting for that process to be done. If you can't do that, drop your list off to them first thing and spend "that" time searching their computers, or preparing your work table or going through books. Some things you can pull yourself and find the pages you want copied and get those ready for them to do while they are doing whatever for you. Just remember to consolidate your time. You won't be the only one there and therefore may have to wait to be assisted. LOL, I sound like an expert...... I've only been to one place in my researching years...... I just heard this on line. Janean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@ntelos.net> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 10:40 AM Subject: [PaOldC] BEFORE you get there! > The DAR library is also closed, due to flooding......I have a friend in DC > as we speak, and she is having to just use the LOC, which is still > open......being on Capitol Hill, it hasn't flooded. > This is a good entree into the importance of doing your homework before > visiting an area to research (although, this flooding is above and beyond). > Here are some things I do, before visiting any area. > Mainly, I do my homework.....I check to see what sort of libraries, > historical societies, etc there are, in the area I'm going to visit....most > of this sort of information is readily available online. > Then, be sure to check the days and hours each are open....all you have to > do is go somewhere ONCE, and discover the library is closed on Tuesdays and > this is Tues....to learn the wisdom of checking BEFORE you arrive! > Many places, including the DAR Library and the LOC, in DC, and many > others, including historical societies, have their card catalogues online, > so you can go through them and find books you want to see before you get > there......I never have unlimited time when I research, so I need to make > the most of what time I DO have.......arriving with a list of titles and #s > is one way to do this. > Be prepared that many larger libraries do not allow you to take in 1) > cameras 2) computers 3) backpacks and bags of notebooks, etc...check with > each one so you'll know to leave behind whatever it is you can't take in. > I always prepare, to take with me, a list of the books they have that I want > to see, along with pertinent #s.....I leave my purse behind and have money > (take change for copy machines), picture ID (drivers license), in a small > change purse I can keep in my pocket....otherwise you either have to drag > your purse with you everywhere...into the stacks, etc..... or leave it on a > table, which isn't safe. I also have a list I've made of what it is I want > to find...and, I itemize. Believe me, when you get in there, it's very easy > to forget something...so, write them down. There isn't a library that won't > allow you to take in a tablet...keep your lists there and you'll be fine. > Sometimes libraries have lockers you can rent, to keep your disallowed stuff > in, but why bother, or depend on them to not all being in use? Leave stuff > where you're staying. (It is also NOT good to leave them in your car. I had > a friend researching in NY, and she left notebooks, etc, in her car, only to > discover someone had broken in and taken everything....this included family > photos....originals....and she had no copies. So, don't leave things > anywhere they can be stolen or vandalized.) > These are a few things I always do......there are probably > others...but, if you do just these you'll be ensuring you get to see the > places you want, and maximize the time you have there. > > > "And like you should anyway before going on a trip, check things on line. > The National Archives is closed due to flooding." > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: 6/28/2006 > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribing. 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The DAR library is also closed, due to flooding......I have a friend in DC as we speak, and she is having to just use the LOC, which is still open......being on Capitol Hill, it hasn't flooded. This is a good entree into the importance of doing your homework before visiting an area to research (although, this flooding is above and beyond). Here are some things I do, before visiting any area. Mainly, I do my homework.....I check to see what sort of libraries, historical societies, etc there are, in the area I'm going to visit....most of this sort of information is readily available online. Then, be sure to check the days and hours each are open....all you have to do is go somewhere ONCE, and discover the library is closed on Tuesdays and this is Tues....to learn the wisdom of checking BEFORE you arrive! Many places, including the DAR Library and the LOC, in DC, and many others, including historical societies, have their card catalogues online, so you can go through them and find books you want to see before you get there......I never have unlimited time when I research, so I need to make the most of what time I DO have.......arriving with a list of titles and #s is one way to do this. Be prepared that many larger libraries do not allow you to take in 1) cameras 2) computers 3) backpacks and bags of notebooks, etc...check with each one so you'll know to leave behind whatever it is you can't take in. I always prepare, to take with me, a list of the books they have that I want to see, along with pertinent #s.....I leave my purse behind and have money (take change for copy machines), picture ID (drivers license), in a small change purse I can keep in my pocket....otherwise you either have to drag your purse with you everywhere...into the stacks, etc..... or leave it on a table, which isn't safe. I also have a list I've made of what it is I want to find...and, I itemize. Believe me, when you get in there, it's very easy to forget something...so, write them down. There isn't a library that won't allow you to take in a tablet...keep your lists there and you'll be fine. Sometimes libraries have lockers you can rent, to keep your disallowed stuff in, but why bother, or depend on them to not all being in use? Leave stuff where you're staying. (It is also NOT good to leave them in your car. I had a friend researching in NY, and she left notebooks, etc, in her car, only to discover someone had broken in and taken everything....this included family photos....originals....and she had no copies. So, don't leave things anywhere they can be stolen or vandalized.) These are a few things I always do......there are probably others...but, if you do just these you'll be ensuring you get to see the places you want, and maximize the time you have there. "And like you should anyway before going on a trip, check things on line. The National Archives is closed due to flooding." -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: 6/28/2006

From The 1693 Census of the Swedes on the Delaware - p. 51, footnote - Subsequent children of Jonas and Katherine Keen: Christina (b. 1693), John (1695), Anna (7 Sep. 1697), Jonas (16 Sep. 1698) and Matthias. PMHB, 2:225, 341; Clay, 107; Phila. Deeds, H-13:502-03, E-7/8:64; PWP, 3:649; Keen, 25-32. Janet In a message dated 6/27/2006 2:05:10 PM Central Daylight Time, ferg@ntelos.net writes: I don't suppose he could he have been Goran Keen (that would be TOO easy, right?)....who is from the line of Jonas Jurgensson Keen.... J J K was in the Upland militia in 1675........the last reference to him was in march of 1694/5 when the inventory of his estate, under the name of Jonas Skeen was filed...widow was Katherine Skeen, who administered his estate... of the children of Jonas and Catharine Keen, only 3 have been identified - Mans (Mounce), Goran (George) and Catharine. Goran Keen, married Ella Mullica in NOv of 1706, and was described as a widower, aged 64, when he married the widow Margaret Justis, June 8, 1745, suggesting he was born in 1681. S

And like you should anyway before going on a trip, check things on line. The National Archives is closed due to flooding. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Shadonkd35@aol.com> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Visiting PA for research purposes, specifically Philadelphia & D... > Laurie and other list members, what dates are you planning to visit the > Philadelphia and Delaware County area? If it happens to be in the very near > future, please keep in mind that we have a major flooding situation on our hands > which will be many weeks to clean up. Currently some Septa trains are not > running. Many roads are closed due to major flooding. I just wanted to for > warn you of what you might be coming into if you are coming soon. > > Sharon > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > > " Unsubscribing. To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to > PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com > with the single word unsubscribe in the message or subject slot." > > > NO VIRUS WARNINGS - if you are concerned contact me PERSONALLY ferg@ntelos.net > > Visit the archives for this list to view old postings > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=PA-OLD-CHESTER > (this site allows you to search for names, place, etc...... > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/pa-old-chester > this site allows you to browse by month.. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Thank you , Mal - Maybe someday I'll get a chance to get myself out there to all these wonderful places... I appreciate your answer , and information , Sally ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mal Humes" <mal3@mal.net> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 4:56 PM Subject: RE: [PaOldC] Re: Rev. War Bounty land grants and war era research > >Thank you for this information, is any of this at The David Library >>on-line to be researched from home ? > > It's a research facility so it requires visiting. I have not been there > yet. > All that is online at www.dlar.org seems to be some lists of some of the > collection materials. That appears useful in and of itself. I had searched > the web fairly extensively for info on Bounty Grant listings and didn't > find > much in the way of any comprehensive resources. This is the closest I > found > yet to what looks like one library with very specialized records like > this. > > Some of the material online also points to sources - the Bounty Grant > microfilms I cited were from the National Archives (2600+ reels!) but > there's a much broader context of info at the David Library that covers a > lot more than that, and also info on Loyalists, Loyalist grants in Canada > and other things. > > I added it to my list of places in PA I'd like to visit when I get a > chance. > The Historical Society of PA in Philadelphia is another. See their website > at www.hsp.org. > > Then there is the Genealogical Society of PA, also in Philadelphia > (www.genpa.org) which has some useful free databases on their web site > (Conscientious Objectors to the Civil War). Many of the surnames recently > discussed are found in the surname records there pointing to bible records > or other info on file there. > > With most locations like this, and the Chester County Historical Society, > or > the Lancaster County Historical Society which also has great records and > good finding aids online (www.lchs.org), it pays off to use the online > resources as much as possible to organize what you hope to find there so > that you can move quickly once you arrive and orient yourself. > > I spent 5 hours at Lancaster recently and for some reason that day some of > the finding aids I had saved to my own PC on the Slaymaker Family White > Chimney manuscript files simply wouldn't come up on their web site and got > a > broken page. I was able to find it on cached on Google, and on my laptop > PC, > but if I hadn't known it was there in advance I would have missed it that > day. > > That Slaymaker family was among the first to receive land grants in 1710 > with Marie Feree in areas that later became Pequea and later the often > joked > about Amish towns of Intecourse, Blue Ball, Bird in Hand and Paradise. The > White Chimneys files have extensive accounting notes and legal papers. One > of the things it covers is the disputes in the Boyd family where two Boyd > parents died and the brother adminsitered the estate for about 20 years > for > his sisters without formally settling it until his sister Margaret Boyd > and > her husband James Hamilton pressed for their share. I haven't had a chance > to read up on this yet but it's of interest to me because that Hamilton > family of Leacock is in my allied lines, as are the Boyds. It seems to > have > been some scandalous affair that I think also ended up involving land > disputes that passed on a generation or two longer than they should have > because of the wills being settled some 20 years after the death of the > Boyd > parents. > > ______________________________

http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/chester/cemeteries/fairview.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/chester/cemeteries/ourlady.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/chester/cemeteries/longwood.txt -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/377 - Release Date: 6/27/2006

I had found this about John and Dirck: Notes for JOHANNES PENNYPACKER: Pa Biographies & Genealogies 1600's-1800's CD#530 FTM "Isaac Samuels Pennypacker, United States Senator from Virginia, Congressman, and Judge of the United States District Court was a great-great-grandson of Hendrick Pennypacker. His grandfather Dirck Pennypacker, s/o John and Annetje (Keyser) Pennypacker, and grandson of Hendrick, removed from the Perkiomen region of Pennsylvania to Sharpsburg, Maryland, established an iron working establishment there, which in the spring of 1781 was almost entirely swept away by a freshet." Diana in AL ----- Original Message ----- From: joe patterson<mailto:jpatter@comcast.net> To: PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 1:55 AM Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Pennybacker migrated from Chester? Laura Anderson wrote: > In the 1840 Wood County, Virginia U.S. Census: > William Pennybacker > Hiram Pennybacker > Both men are 30 but under 40, married and have children. > > Do these two match any of our Pennypacker families in Chester Co.? > > Laura There is a William Byrd Pennybacker [1803] with brother Hiram [1805] Wm married Susan Abigail Duncan of Loudoun Co, VA Hiram married Susan Ann Mitchell MANY siblings. [research of Ron Mitchell] The Pennybecker parents are John Pennyb and Phoebe Fugate married 1793 in VA John'a Parents - Dirck Pennybacker and Hannah "Nancy" DeHaven. ______________________________

Has family history of the following: JONAS H.HARLEY" FAM.HIST.WRITTEN IN GERMAN FROM 1818-1849 I don't know if anyone on this list is interested but the item has 22 hours left. I don't have any connection whatsoever to this item. Here is the website: http://cgi.ebay.com/1843-PHILA-PA-GERMAN-HOLY-BIBLE-ILLUS-FAMILY- HIST_W0QQitemZ120000828923QQihZ002QQcategoryZ29223QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Kim Townsend Spangrude

Laurie and other list members, what dates are you planning to visit the Philadelphia and Delaware County area? If it happens to be in the very near future, please keep in mind that we have a major flooding situation on our hands which will be many weeks to clean up. Currently some Septa trains are not running. Many roads are closed due to major flooding. I just wanted to for warn you of what you might be coming into if you are coming soon. Sharon

For those who may visit Philadelphia or the surrounding area, there is also the Free Library of Philadelphia with a fabulous newspaper room. Films of newspapers going back into the 1700s are available, and the only cost is for copies. If heading to HSP or GSP, the FLP is on the opposite side of City Hall; I've walked to all 3 after taking a train into the city. For more on FLP, which does have research-by-mail services as well, see http://libwww.library.phila.gov/faq/guides/genealogy/guidelist.cfm. I tend to favor the FLP as it has Pennsylvania Archives and Bates on its shelves, something I had paying to have access to elsewhere, so this is a great place to visit if you're in the area. To maximaze use of nearby societies, first use the online catalog at FLP to examine their holdings, and use those that are duplicated here...then it frees up time to utilize different resources as HSP & GSP. A fairly short drive or train trip away is the Historical Society of Delaware County. See http://www.delcohistory.org/. The historical society does contain Chester County records, but I've not yet used those records so am not familiar with the holdings. Newly opened in Delaware County is the Delaware County Archives. See http://www.co.delaware.pa.us/depts/archives.html. Swarthmore Friends Library (I think I have the name right) is in Delaware County as well. ----- Original Message ----- : It's (David Library) a research facility so it requires visiting. I have not been there yet. : All that is online at www.dlar.org seems to be some lists of some of the : collection materials. : I added it to my list of places in PA I'd like to visit when I get a chance. : The Historical Society of PA in Philadelphia is another. See their website : at www.hsp.org. : : Then there is the Genealogical Society of PA, also in Philadelphia : (www.genpa.org) which has some useful free databases on their web site : With most locations like this, and the Chester County Historical Society, or : the Lancaster County Historical Society which also has great records and : good finding aids online (www.lchs.org), it pays off to use the online : resources as much as possible to organize what you hope to find there so : that you can move quickly once you arrive and orient yourself. >shorted message<

>Thank you for this information, is any of this at The David Library >on-line to be researched from home ? It's a research facility so it requires visiting. I have not been there yet. All that is online at www.dlar.org seems to be some lists of some of the collection materials. That appears useful in and of itself. I had searched the web fairly extensively for info on Bounty Grant listings and didn't find much in the way of any comprehensive resources. This is the closest I found yet to what looks like one library with very specialized records like this. Some of the material online also points to sources - the Bounty Grant microfilms I cited were from the National Archives (2600+ reels!) but there's a much broader context of info at the David Library that covers a lot more than that, and also info on Loyalists, Loyalist grants in Canada and other things. I added it to my list of places in PA I'd like to visit when I get a chance. The Historical Society of PA in Philadelphia is another. See their website at www.hsp.org. Then there is the Genealogical Society of PA, also in Philadelphia (www.genpa.org) which has some useful free databases on their web site (Conscientious Objectors to the Civil War). Many of the surnames recently discussed are found in the surname records there pointing to bible records or other info on file there. With most locations like this, and the Chester County Historical Society, or the Lancaster County Historical Society which also has great records and good finding aids online (www.lchs.org), it pays off to use the online resources as much as possible to organize what you hope to find there so that you can move quickly once you arrive and orient yourself. I spent 5 hours at Lancaster recently and for some reason that day some of the finding aids I had saved to my own PC on the Slaymaker Family White Chimney manuscript files simply wouldn't come up on their web site and got a broken page. I was able to find it on cached on Google, and on my laptop PC, but if I hadn't known it was there in advance I would have missed it that day. That Slaymaker family was among the first to receive land grants in 1710 with Marie Feree in areas that later became Pequea and later the often joked about Amish towns of Intecourse, Blue Ball, Bird in Hand and Paradise. The White Chimneys files have extensive accounting notes and legal papers. One of the things it covers is the disputes in the Boyd family where two Boyd parents died and the brother adminsitered the estate for about 20 years for his sisters without formally settling it until his sister Margaret Boyd and her husband James Hamilton pressed for their share. I haven't had a chance to read up on this yet but it's of interest to me because that Hamilton family of Leacock is in my allied lines, as are the Boyds. It seems to have been some scandalous affair that I think also ended up involving land disputes that passed on a generation or two longer than they should have because of the wills being settled some 20 years after the death of the Boyd parents.

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>I noted the Prickett/ Prickitt family who lived in the area of Northampton and >Southampton townships in Burlington Co., NJ from 1716. The oldest referenced seemed to be a deed Zackariah Prickett. <http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=tripm& id=I21163> suggests he was born in Gloucestershire, England circa 1675, and came over on the "Amity" with the Haines family. <http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=tripm& id=I2815> suggests that was in 1682 and that the Haines family had roots in Aynhoe, Northamptonshire, England. That would place Zackariah Prickett as pretty young when emigrating, but the circa 1675 birth date could easily be way off. On some other sites I see references to a book that looks likely of interest to you: R. Haines. "Ancestry of the Haines, Sharp, Collins, Wills, Gardiner, Prickitt, Eves, Evans, Moore, Troth, Borton and Engle Families. Compiled from notes of the. Pub. by Sinnickson Chew & Sons Co., Camden, N.J., 1902. Googling the title in quotes shows it in one library and at least one reprint company selling overpriced reprints ($188!). I'd look for it at the Books We Own lookup project, http://www.rootsweb.com/~bwo/, where you can find many rare books and get access to simple lookups via volunteers. Or try the WorldCat "find in libaries search" @ www.worldcatlibraries.org for a copy in a library near you. I find copies in libraries in 10 states. <http://www.worldcatlibraries.org/wcpa/search?q=Ancestry+of+the+Haines%2C+Sh arp%2C+Collins&qt=owc_search> Also try the Earlham Digital Quaker Collection <http://esr.earlham.edu/dqc/> and you can find a Prickett referenced in the two books on "Sufferings of early Quakers". That finds a 1661 reference to "Commitments to Prison from Tewksbury Meeting": "On the 24th of the Month called February, Francis Jefferies, Nathaniel Jeines, Samuel Mosses, John Ward, Jacob Underbill, John Prickett, William Peachy, Samuel Skitser, Thomas Edwards, and Edward Waters, were taken from a Meeting at Tewksbury, and because they refused to give Sureties for their good Behaviour, were committed to Prison." That is probably the reference I find referred to in one web site that noted Zackariah "... is said to be descended from a John Prickett of Gloucester, England. (A Quaker who is mentioned in a narrative called "BESSIE'S SUFFERINGS", in 1660)", If you read the chapter above carefully it appeared to me that the reference to Pritchett follows a year of records of 1660 and happens in February of the following year. The citation should be for: Collection of the sufferings of the people called Quakers (Volume 1) Besse, Joseph Or Besse, Joseph. - A collection of the sufferings of the people called Quakers, for the testimony of a good conscience from the time of their being first distinguished by that name in the year 1650 to the time of the act commonly called the Act of toleration granted to Protestant dissenters in the first year of the reign of King William the Third and Queen Mary in the year 1689 (Volume 1) And, in the second volume of Besse's books on the Quaker sufferings, CHAP. III. WORCESTERSHIRE, covers many details in the Borough of Evesham in the County of Worcester, 1655. "The Names of some who were put into the Stocks for coming to Meeting there, were John Booker, Robert Beard, William Yeates, Joseph Undrill, Jacob Undrill, and John Prickett." That's part of a much more detailed account of other men (aside from Pritchett but from the same group) thrown in a small prison cell for 14 weeks: "And as for the Prison, or Hole where we are kept, it is not twelve Foot square, and one Goal-hole belonging to it four Inches wide, wherein we take in our Food and Straw to lie upon, and we are forced to burn Candle every Day when we have it, by reason the Prison is so dark and so close, and so many in so little Room, and so little Air, with the Stink of our own Dung, all which might have occasioned the Death of some of us e'er this Time, and one they kept with me in the Dungeon until he was sick, and after turned him out in the Night: And some others have not been well by reason of the exceeding Closeness of the Prison, whereby sometimes the Stink of the Prison hath been so strong in the Streets, that the People could not endure to stand by it. Sometimes when the Days were hot, the Breath of some Prisoners was almost stopped, and they lay for several Days like Men asleep; and when the Days are at the coldest, we have not Room nor Place either to make Fire, or to walk to keep our Bodies warm; yet there is a large Prison over our Heads, where they do sometimes imprison many of our Friends, but that large Prison they will not let us be in, neither could we, nor Friends for us, prevail to have Liberty to walk in that Prison sometimes by Day, and to come down into the other Prison by Night." There is also some great testimonies there by a John Woodward. When fined 5 pounds he tells them they might as well make it 15. "Then John Woodward was called. Recorder. Pluck off his Hat. The Indictment was read. Town-Clerk. Guilty, or Not Guilty? Woodward. I am not guilty of wronging any Man's Person, neither have I Spite or Malice to, or against any Man in England. Recorder. Will you own the Paper? Woodward. I will, and prove it to be true. Here are three Men have waited ever since Yesterday Morning to witness against R. Martin, Justice, (so called) for Swearing. Recorder. I do not sit here to hear that proved; beside, if it were true, it ought not to be spoke against a Magistrate. Woodward. All People take Notice, if this be not Partiality: The Recorder commanded Edward Pitway's Hat to be taken off, who is a Magistrate of the Town, and suffers the Priest to sit by him with his Hat on. The Priest hearing that, put off his Hat; but the Recorder bid him put it on again. Recorder. Fine him. Then some of the Bench said 3l. Recorder. Are you contented? Woodward. You may do what you will. Recorder. Fine him 5l. Woodward. You may put 15l. for I expect no Favour from your Hands. " You may not be able to connect the dots, but the Digital Quaker Collection <http://esr.earlham.edu/dqc/> is a good place to look for old world Quaker connections. If people emigrated in early Quaker waves it's likely they may have been persecuted or descended from folks who were persecuted in the years before the emigration.

AHHHH off line as in, hard copies That's a good point. Should be specified as a hard copy instead of off line stuff. I myself have things that have not scanned and stored on my computer. I have had to mail physical copies of things. Janean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Spangrude" <kimspangrude@mac.com> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Share info with all, please! > Sandra, my message below WAS sent to the list. That is why the entire > list is now reading this, and your message to me (below) to "please" > share with the list. When I said I would like the off-line info, I > meant any info that the person may have that is not on the web on his > website, because, if you had read his message carefully, his website > specifically states that he has info that is off-line that may not be > on the website. > On Jun 28, 2006, at 1:20 PM, Sandra Ferguson wrote: > > > Please share information with everyone, and not just an > > individual...why 'waste' good data giving it to just one person, when > > you can post it for use by anyone on the list, and later, too, in the > > archives. > > I would also suggest you visit the list archives and by the use of > > Townsend as your search subject, see what has been posted in the past. > > > > Sandra > > > > > > " Would love your off-line info (or online if you have it) on > > Townsend, my ancestors, and/or Pearson and Woodward. My woods are > > thick with Quakers." > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/377 - Release Date: > > 6/27/2006 > > > > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > > Unsubscribing. To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to > > PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com > > with the single word unsubscribe in the message or subject slot." > > > > > > NO VIRUS WARNINGS - if you are concerned contact me PERSONALLY > > ferg@ntelos.net > > > > Visit the archives for this list to view old postings > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=PA-OLD- > > CHESTER > > If you have ANY problems, do not send them to the list > > contact me personally....list manager ferg@ntelos.net > > > > ============================== > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribing.... To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to > PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in the message or subject slot. > > > NO VIRUS WARNINGS - if you are concerned contact me PERSONALLY ferg@ntelos.net > > please visit the Chester Co rootsweb site...it is full of area photos, helpful URLs and lots of county information > http://www.pa-roots.com/~chester/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Please share information with everyone, and not just an individual...why 'waste' good data giving it to just one person, when you can post it for use by anyone on the list, and later, too, in the archives. I would also suggest you visit the list archives and by the use of Townsend as your search subject, see what has been posted in the past. Sandra " Would love your off-line info (or online if you have it) on Townsend, my ancestors, and/or Pearson and Woodward. My woods are thick with Quakers." -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/377 - Release Date: 6/27/2006