Take your pick Ahinoam A-hin-oh'-am a-hi-NO-am ah-ki-NOH-ahm
"Geo Pearce acknowledged a deed to Thomas Mercer for 238 acres of land, lying and being in the twp of Thornbury the deed bearing the date 12 day 1m 1699/1700." Thomas Mercer served on a grand jury 26 August 1707. Thomas Mercer appears on a 1715 tax rate for Marlborough twp. "Thomas Mercer, from Ayno-on-the-Hill, in Co Northampton, with Mary, his wife, were settlers in Westtown, where he died ca 1716. His widow died 1723. Their children were Thomas b 1694 m Hannah Taylor in 1710; ;Mary, m Wm Pennell 8-26-1710; Elizabeth m Joseph Woodeard 1712; Ann Woodward. Joshua Peirce 8-28-1713; Joseph m Ann Wickersham 1719." MERCER, THOMAS. Thornbury.March 17, 1715. September 13, 1716. A. 40.Provides for wife Mary. To eldest son Thomas after wifes decease or marriage, my new dwelling plantation containing my estate 238 acres. To son Thomas, son Daniel 1/2 of 500 acres of land inMarlborough which lieth next to Nathl Newlins land. To son Josephthe other 1/2 said 500 acres whereon son Thomas now lives. To my 3 daughters, viz Mary, Elizabeth and Ann, £20 each. To sons in lawWm. Pennil, Joseph Woodward and Joshua Peirce one pistole each. Remainder of moveables to wife and son Thomas.Executors: wife Mary.Witnesses: Francis Pullen, Thomas Pierson, Rose Pierson. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandra Ferguson To: Pam2570@aol.com Cc: pa-old-chester-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 7:54 AM Subject: THOMAS MERCER I found the following on a Thomas Mercer/Merscer; "Geo Pearce acknowledged a deed to Thomas Mercer for 238 acres of land, lying and being in the twp of Thornbury the deed bearing the date 12 day 1m 1699/1700." Thomas Mercer served on a grand jury 26 August 1707. Thomas Mercer appears on a 1715 tax rate for Marlborough twp. "Thomas Mercer, from Ayno-on-the-Hill, in Co Northampton, with Mary, his wife, were settlers in Westtown, where he died ca 1716. His widow died 1723. Their children were Thomas b 1694 m Hannah Taylor in 1710; ;Mary, m Wm Pennell 8-26-1710; Elizabeth m Joseph Woodeard 1712; Ann Woodward. Joshua Peirce 8-28-1713; Joseph m Ann Wickersham 1719." MERCER, THOMAS. Thornbury.March 17, 1715. September 13, 1716. A. 40.Provides for wife Mary. To eldest son Thomas after wifes decease or marriage, my new dwelling plantation containing my estate 238 acres. To son Thomas, son Daniel 1/2 of 500 acres of land inMarlborough which lieth next to Nathl Newlins land. To son Josephthe other 1/2 said 500 acres whereon son Thomas now lives. To my 3 daughters, viz Mary, Elizabeth and Ann, £20 each. To sons in lawWm. Pennil, Joseph Woodward and Joshua Peirce one pistole each. Remainder of moveables to wife and son Thomas.Executors: wife Mary.Witnesses: Francis Pullen, Thomas Pierson, Rose Pierson. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/396 - Release Date: 7/24/2006
Chester Co cemeteries; http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/chester/cemeteries/zion.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/chester/cemeteries/coventryvillem.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/chester/cemeteries/charlestown.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/chester/cemeteries/cheyney.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/chester/cemeteries/morris.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/chester/cemeteries/birmingham.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/chester/cemeteries/hepzibah.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/philadelphia/cemeteries/ncedarhill.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/philadelphia/cemeteries/magnolia.txt Philadelphia readings; http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/philadelphia/cemeteries/ncedarhill.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/philadelphia/cemeteries/magnolia.txt -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006
There is no mention of a Geo Tate in any of the early tax/landowner records I have, and no mention of the name in Futhey and Cope (they mention a ? Tate that married Katharine Malin, in 1721, dau of Randal Malin and 1st wife Elizabeth ...he married , second, Mary Conway, widow of Thomas and dau of Valentine Hollingsworth...they lived within the Goshen MM (this is where you need to look for them)............(an interesting aside to this is that a warrant was granted May 6, 1721, by Henry Pierce, Esq, directed to the constable of Chester, to arrest James Maruhead, on complaints .... Randal Malin, for clandestinely marrying his daughter, contrary to law.) There is no mention of the name in early court records (1710 and earlier)....there are no will mentions of the name Geo Tate in the area...including Chester, Bucks, Berks, Phila.....nor is the name included on any of the Penn's ship's passengers that I have. So, without some sort of documentation, why does she think the father was the original emigrant? Why not the son? If he came with Penn, then he would have been a Quaker....have you looked for early MM records for the name? I have the early Chester mm and others....no Geo Tate included.....try the Goshen ones. S. " I'm also trying to find more on my CHARLES TATE when he emigrated, my cousin in Chicago does lots of research and can't find it either, but she says he came with Penn and got here 1682-83, that he was b. in England and died in Penn. but we can't find any evidence of when and where he died, or whom he married, just that his son was GEORGE TATE b. 1685-86 ( GEORGE marr. KATHERINE MALIN 1721 ) and supposedly lived Mill Creek Hundred where son WILLIAM TATE was b. 1732.... we are both looking for more records of that period.... Alice is coming down from Chicago the first of Aug. so maybe we'll work together on this a bit......" -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006
A quick google says Ahinoam, [ uhin ' oum ]....this is a biblical name, but sure not one I've ever seen before... Sandra " Does anyone know the correcy pronounciation of Ahinoam?" -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006
Welcome URL.... http://www.welcomesociety.org/ Tim R. ***** -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Mary D" <maryd428@earthlink.net> > do you have a web site for the Welcome Society? > > > > True...there are often different statements about folks........but, I > > think that some sources, etc are certainly more credible than others, and > > I'd be rather inclined to believe anything the Welcome Society puts > > forth. They do a lot of checking, and you must send reams of primary > > documentation to join....if interested, I'd think you could discover, from > > them, the documentation they have for Valentine...without asking, we can't > > know if they have concrete.... primary....proof. I honestly don't think > > they would accept just conjecture and speculation as proof, do you? If > > you find out, let us know....it's interesting stuff. > > Sandra > > > > > > "There sure are many interpretations of opinions and the > > lack of concrete recorded proof just adds to the mystery, doesn't it ? > > Something that happened over 300 years ago is always fair game for > > speculation and I love it.. such as " did he, or didn't he "..... > > anyway, I copy-off and save all of it and have come to the conclusion I > > shall never know ' for sure '." > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006 > > > > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > > Unsubscribing..... To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to > > PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com > > with the single word unsubscribe in the message or subject slot." > > > > If you have ANY problems, do not send them to the list > > contact me personally....list manager ferg@ntelos.net > > > > NO VIRUS WARNINGS...contact me personally ferg@ntelos.net if posted you > > will be unsubscribed > > > > please visit the Chester Co rootsweb site...it is full of area photos, > > helpful URLs and lots of county information > > http://www.pa-roots.com/~chester/ > > > > ============================== > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > > New content added every business day. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > > " Unsubscribing. To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to > PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com > with the single word unsubscribe in the message or subject slot." > > > NO VIRUS WARNINGS - if you are concerned contact me PERSONALLY ferg@ntelos.net > > Visit the archives for this list to view old postings > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=PA-OLD-CHESTER > (this site allows you to search for names, place, etc...... > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/pa-old-chester > this site allows you to browse by month.. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >
Barclay There are several Sarah Worralls.This is probably the earliest. Does anyone know the correcy pronounciation of Ahinoam? #585 GEORGE MALIN SMEDLEY (Samuel,Ambrose,George,George),b.Middletown, 3-12-1832;m.Sarah Worrall;dau.of Frazer Worrall.She is deceased and he resides at 3214 York St.,Phila.After their mother's death his children were cared for by their aunts,Elizabeth Ann and Ahinoam Smedley,at the homestead,of whom the first attended the Phila.markets for many years. Issue: 1851 Samuel,b.6-6-1863;m.10-29-1891,Fannie Cornog. 1852 Edgar Miller,b.9-17-1864;m.11-4-1896,Emma B Howard. 1853 Elizabeth Ann,b.9-12-1866;living with her aunt,unmarried. #149 AHINOAM SMEDLEY (Ambrose,George,George),b.8-29-1795;d.8-22-1857;m. 11-5-1818,at Middletown Meeting,John Yarnall,b.2-2-1795;d.?;son of Ezekiel Yarnall and Sarah Hall,of Edgmont. Issue: 586 Elizabeth S,b.8-7-1820;d.?,unmarried. 587 Sarah H,b.8-7-1820;d.7-18-1888;m.Bennett Temple. 588 Samuel S,b.10-2-1821;d.6-2-1890;m.Hannah Thatcher. 589 Eli,b.5-24-1823;d.7-18-1888;m.Lydia (Thomas) Tyson. 590 George,b.2-3-1825;d.7-23-1892;m.Mary Fairlamb. 591 Thomas,b.5-10-1827;m.Emeline Stanfield. 592 Owen,b.6-12-1830;was county commissioner of Delaware Co., 1876-1885;now superintendent of farming at the House of Refuge, or Reform School,at Glen Mills,in Thornbury Twp.;unmarried. Thomas Yarnall,b.6-10-1705,son of Philip and Dorothy,m.Martha Hammans (pg.54).Their son William,b.10-1-1737;d.8-9-1807;m.Mary Chance (Jan.30, 1760,St.Michael's and Zion Church record,Phila.),for which marriage his acknowledgment was accepted 1-26-1761,but his wife did not become a member till 7-28-1783.Ezekiel Yarnall,son of William,was admitted 1-27-1783,and m.5-6-1784 at Middletown Meeting,Sarah Hall,dau.of Samuel and Sarah (Norbury) Hall,of Goshen,and granddau.of Thomas and Mary (Kendall) Hall (pgs.103,142). John Yarnall was a farmer,owning a farmin Middletown,bordering on Ridley Creek,south of the present railroad bridge,near Media. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Quaker1682@aol.com> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [PaOldC] George Tate > George, Do you know the parents of Sarah Worrall and her dates? Also, > do > you know the first name of Ahinoam Smedley's husband ? Yarnall, his > parents > and his dates? > > Thank you, > Barclay Richards > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribing. To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to > PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com > with the single word unsubscribe in the message or subject slot." > > NO VIRUS WARNINGS - if you are concerned contact me PERSONALLY > ferg@ntelos.nettp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/pa-old-chester > this site allows you to browse by month.. > > please visit the Chester Co rootsweb site...it is full of area photos, > helpful URLs and lots of county information > http://www.pa-roots.com/~chester/ > > if you have a problem contact ME ferg@ntelos and NOT the list > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >
George, Do you know the parents of Sarah Worrall and her dates? Also, do you know the first name of Ahinoam Smedley's husband ? Yarnall, his parents and his dates? Thank you, Barclay Richards
#148 SAMUEL SMEDLEY (Ambrose,George,George),b.Middletown,6-12-1791;d. there,2-9-1876;m.12-30-1819,at Middletown Meeting,Elizabeth Malin,b.6-8-1797,in Middletown;d.11-25-1878;dau.of George Malin and Rebecca Ogden,of Edgmont.Both buried at Cumberland Cemetery,adjoining the graveyard of Middletown Meeting. Issue: 579 a child unnamed,buried at Middletown Meeting,11-9-1820. 580 Elizabeth Ann,b.11-26-1822;d.1-20-1888,unmarried. 581 Esther Ogden,b.1-25-1825;d.9-25-1848,unmarried. 582 Samuel,b.8-6-1827;d.2-25-1828. 583 Ahinoam,b.8-6-1827;living at the homestead,unmarried. P.O.Media,Pa.In addition to the homestead she owns the Jane Smedley(#139)home on the other side of Ridley Creek,in Upper Providence,and another farm in Middletown. 584 Rebecca,b.3-14-1830;d.5-9-1831. 585 George M,b.3-12-1832;m.Sarah Worrall. Randal Malin,of Great Barrow,in the county palatine of Chester,England, was a purchaser of 250 acres of land in Pennsylvania,by deeds of lease and release,dated 6th and 7th of March,1681.He was a grand juror at a court held at Chester in the 10th month 1684,and a settler in Upper Providence.His wife Elizabeth,died in the beginning of the 7th month, 1687,and in the 2nd month 1692 he was married to Mary Conoway,widow of Thomas Conoway and dau.of Valentine Hollingsworth,of New Castle County. He was reccomended as a minister 10-27-1725,and in 1727 removed with his wife within the limits of Goshen Monthly Meeting. By his first wife he had Isaac,b.the latter end of the 5th mo.1681,m. Elizabeth Jones and Jane Pugh;Jacob,b.7-7-1686,m.Susanna Jones.By the 2nd wife he had Hannah,d.y (young?);Hannah,b.1-7-1695-6,m.Daniel Williamson Jr.;Rachel,b.5-24-1702,m.John Cain;Katharine,m.George(?) Tate.Isaac Malin settled in Whiteland township,while his brother Jacob remained in Upper Providence,where he died in 1727. William Malin,,son of Jacob and Susanna,m.Elizabeth Crosley and had children Jacob,Thomas,Hannah,Joel and George.The last m.5-30-1794,at Providence Meeting,Rebecca Ogden,b.1-19-1775;d.9-9-1829;dau.of Aaron Ogden and Esther Preston.They had children Aaron,Elizabeth (m.Samuel Smedley),Preston,Orpha (m.James Green),Sidney,Rebecca,Esther,Ann,George, Isaiah,Amor,Emeline and Ogden C. By devise of his father,Samuel Smedley became possessed of the homestead with 100 acres of land,including the place of original settlement,in Middletown.This he bequeathed to his two daughters Elizabeth Ann and Ahinoam Smedley,suject to payment of legacies.To his nephew,Edmund Smedley,and the children of his sister Ahinoam Yarnall he gave $25 each.
do you have a web site for the Welcome Society? > True...there are often different statements about folks........but, I > think that some sources, etc are certainly more credible than others, and > I'd be rather inclined to believe anything the Welcome Society puts > forth. They do a lot of checking, and you must send reams of primary > documentation to join....if interested, I'd think you could discover, from > them, the documentation they have for Valentine...without asking, we can't > know if they have concrete.... primary....proof. I honestly don't think > they would accept just conjecture and speculation as proof, do you? If > you find out, let us know....it's interesting stuff. > Sandra > > > "There sure are many interpretations of opinions and the > lack of concrete recorded proof just adds to the mystery, doesn't it ? > Something that happened over 300 years ago is always fair game for > speculation and I love it.. such as " did he, or didn't he "..... > anyway, I copy-off and save all of it and have come to the conclusion I > shall never know ' for sure '." > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006 > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribing..... To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to > PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com > with the single word unsubscribe in the message or subject slot." > > If you have ANY problems, do not send them to the list > contact me personally....list manager ferg@ntelos.net > > NO VIRUS WARNINGS...contact me personally ferg@ntelos.net if posted you > will be unsubscribed > > please visit the Chester Co rootsweb site...it is full of area photos, > helpful URLs and lots of county information > http://www.pa-roots.com/~chester/ > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >
Hi - My 5 GrGrandfather GEORGE TATE married KATHARINE MALIN in 1721 , I would like to find out if there are any further records of this Marriage, or documentation, that anyone is aware of... Thanks, Sally ----- Original Message ----- From: "George" <smedley.george@att.net> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 8:01 AM Subject: Valentine Hollingsworth > Cope mentions Valentine twice > > William Penn granted,1-13-1683,to Thomas Calvert,300 acres;to John > Calvert,300 acres,and to Margaret Calvert,100 acres,all laid out together > in Upper Providence 1-25-1683.On 2-11-1691,it was ordered that a patent > for the whole should be made to John Calvert,to whom it was made appear to > belong.Perhaps the others were his children.At Chester Monthly Meeting > 4-6-1687, mention is made of a difference between Thomas Hollingsworth and > John Calvert,about dividing their lands in Upper Providence.Valentine > Hollingsworth,father of Thomas,had married for 2nd wife,Ann Calvert,and > John Calvert was probably a brother.There was a presumption of > relationship in that day to Lord Baltimore,the Proprietor of Maryland.The > children of John and Judith,born in this country,were > Daniel,b.5-6-1685,who m.about 1709,Elizabeth Pritchett;and > Mary,b.12-19-1687.Judith,another daughter,m.10-8-1725,Daniel Broom,of > Marple.Ruth Calvert,who m.about1697,Edward Paviour,of Upper Providence,was > probably an older ! > child. > At a court held 6-25-1702,the sheriff made return of an execution on the > estate of John Calvert, which was sold to Thomas and Joshua Calvert for > Lb.243.These were probably sons of John.Joshua was constable of Upper > Providence in 1704.Thomas bought a lot in Chester in 1700,and sold it in > 1702.After this the land in Upper Providence appears to have been held by > Joshua and Daniel Calvert,of whom the first had 370 acres in 1724.It > seems,however,to have been patented Feb.6,1739,to John Worrall (608 1/2 > acres),who,with Ruth his wife,conveyed a part to Daniel Calvert. > Joshua Calvert,m.1709,Deborah Harlan,dau.of George and Elizabeth > Harlan,and it is conjectured that they were the parents of Thomas > Calvert,the husband of Sarah Williamson. The latter presented an > acknowledgment to Goshen Monthly Meeting 6-20-1739,for marriage by a > magistrate,and on 8-16-1756,received a certificate from Goshen to Chester > Monthly Meeting,with their children,who are not named.They appear to have > lived after this in Edgmont and perhaps he is the same Thomas Calvert who > was in East Marlborough,1762-3-4,and perhaps later.He does not appear to > have been in membership with Friends,and when or where he and his wife > died has not been discovered. > > Randal Malin,of Great Barrow,in the county palatine of Chester,England, > was a purchaser of 250 acres of land in Pennsylvania,by deeds of lease and > release,dated 6th and 7th of March,1681.He was a grand juror at a court > held at Chester in the 10th month 1684,and a settler in Upper > Providence.His wife Elizabeth,died in the beginning of the 7th month, > 1687,and in the 2nd month 1692 he was married to Mary Conoway,widow of > Thomas Conoway and dau.of Valentine Hollingsworth,of New Castle County. He > was reccomended as a minister 10-27-1725,and in 1727 removed with his wife > within the limits of Goshen Monthly Meeting. > By his first wife he had Isaac,b.the latter end of the 5th mo.1681,m. > Elizabeth Jones and Jane Pugh;Jacob,b.7-7-1686,m.Susanna Jones.By the 2nd > wife he had Hannah,d.y (young?);Hannah,b.1-7-1695-6,m.Daniel Williamson > Jr.;Rachel,b.5-24-1702,m.John Cain;Katharine,m.George(?) Tate.Isaac Malin > settled in Whiteland township,while his brother Jacob remained in Upper > Providence,where he died in 1727. > William Malin,,son of Jacob and Susanna,m.Elizabeth Crosley and had > children Jacob,Thomas,Hannah,Joel and George.The last m.5-30-1794,at > Providence Meeting,Rebecca Ogden,b.1-19-1775;d.9-9-1829;dau.of Aaron Ogden > and Esther Preston.They had children Aaron,Elizabeth (m.Samuel > Smedley),Preston,Orpha (m.James Green),Sidney,Rebecca,Esther,Ann,George, > Isaiah,Amor,Emeline and Ogden C. > > ______________________________
True...there are often different statements about folks........but, I think that some sources, etc are certainly more credible than others, and I'd be rather inclined to believe anything the Welcome Society puts forth. They do a lot of checking, and you must send reams of primary documentation to join....if interested, I'd think you could discover, from them, the documentation they have for Valentine...without asking, we can't know if they have concrete.... primary....proof. I honestly don't think they would accept just conjecture and speculation as proof, do you? If you find out, let us know....it's interesting stuff. Sandra "There sure are many interpretations of opinions and the lack of concrete recorded proof just adds to the mystery, doesn't it ? Something that happened over 300 years ago is always fair game for speculation and I love it.. such as " did he, or didn't he "..... anyway, I copy-off and save all of it and have come to the conclusion I shall never know ' for sure '." -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006
Thank you Sandra - There sure are many interpretations of opinions and the lack of concrete recorded proof just adds to the mystery, doesn't it ? Something that happened over 300 years ago is always fair game for speculation and I love it.. such as " did he, or didn't he "..... anyway, I copy-off and save all of it and have come to the conclusion I shall never know ' for sure '.... thanks for the input and the information, you are a wonderful source of data and I am most appreciative ...... Sally ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@ntelos.net> To: "Dutton Family" <rdutton1@tampabay.rr.com>; <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 7:26 PM Subject: Vallentine Hollingsworth and son Henry > Valentine's name appears on no list, but Henry, his son, crossed the > Atlantic on the Lion of Liverpool, arriving 14 8thm 1683. My Newlins > were on this ship, but, as it's name says, it originated in Liverpool, one > of the great English ports of it's day. > There is speculation on the Ship Valentine came on, but no > documentation (this is from THE WELCOME CLAIMANTS, PROVED, DISPROVED AND > DOUBTFUL.) Some say that he arrived 'a few months after Wm Penn's > arrival".....one says he sailed from "Belfast for the Delaware River" It > is generally believed, though, that he came aboard the Antelope and > arrived 10th 10th mo 1682 with at least one other passenger from > Ireland....Ann Milcom of Armagh, Ireland, widow. > > > "My records indicate that there was one ship that Penn had came from > Ireland , and my Ancestor VALENTINE HOLLINGSWORTH and his family were on > it, > and were from Ireland- maybe it was an English ship? " > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/394 - Release Date: 7/20/2006
Sandra, I must be nuts. You are, and were, absolutely correct with your passenger lists for the Liver/Livee and the Lyon. For some reason I mentally registered one list instead of two when I read your email. I'm so sorry, and embarrassed. Since we both might be descended from the Newlins, I can only imagine my shortcomings coming from some other source. Beth McMakin
Sandra: You may be interested in a discussion re: CALVERTs in Pensylvania & CLAVERTs in Maryland, which was had in June 2004. See on QUAKER ROOTS ARCHIVES -- it is quite a long discusion grouping!. It is in 3-sections starting with this one posted below and includes many queries: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/QUAKER-ROOTS/2004-06/1087225906. First series of 3 queries, but with a total of 20 some queries re the CALVERTS, again Archived for June 2004. Violet Moore Guy. 06/22/2006 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@ntelos.net> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:21 AM Subject: [PaOldC] Valentine Hollingsworth > IMMIGRATION OF THE IRISH QUAKERS INTO PA, by Myers has a great deal of info > on the Hollingsworth family.......this is a quote concerning the > Calvert/Hollingsworth relationship; > "At Chester MM, 4 mo3 6, 1687, mention is made of a difference between John > Calvert and Thomas Hollingsworth (stepson of John Calvert's sister, Ann, who > married Valentine Hollingsworth), about dividing their lands in Upper > Providence." > > Valentine Hollingsworth, son of Henry, of Belleniskcrannel, Parish Segoe, Co > Armagh, Ireland, and Catharine, his wife, was born at Balleniskcrannel, > 'about the 6m of 1632.' married 4 m 7, 1655, Ann Ree, dau of Nicholas Ree > of Tanderagee, Co Armagh. She was born around 1628, at Tanderagee, and d 2m > 1, 1671. He then married a second time 4m 12, 1572, to Ann Calvert, dau of > Thomas Calvert of Dromgora, Parish Segoe, Co Armagh, and Jane his wife. > (their marriage certificate is included in the MARRIAGE BOOK OF LURGAN > MONTHLY MEETING > > In 1687, Henry Hollingsworth returned to Ireland and, 8 mo 22, 1688, married > Lydia Atkinson, of the Parish of Segoe, County Armagh, who shortly > afterward came over to New Castle with her husband. > S. > (an interesting aside for Valentine - he originally settled on a large > plantation of nearly 1000 acres, about 5 miles from the present city of > Wilmington....the land was called "New Worke", and held the 'Newark' MM and > burying ground, where he was interred....interesting to think "New Worke" > morphed into Newark, that we are all familiar with....place names can tell > us a lot, if we look hard enough.) > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/394 - Release Date: 7/20/2006 > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribing. To leave PA-old-chester-l, send mail to > PA-old-chester-l-request@rootsweb.com > with the single word unsubscribe in the message or subject slot." > > > NO VIRUS WARNINGS - if you are concerned contact me PERSONALLY ferg@ntelos.net > > Visit the archives for this list to view old postings > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=PA-OLD-CHESTER > > If you have ANY problems, do not send them to the list..contact me personally....list manager ferg@ntelos.net > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >
This is something that may be of interest to anyone with Isaac Painter as an ancestor. There is going to be an absolute public auction of a property down the road from where I live. It is described as "Historic Isaac Painter stone home,built 1772 on picturesque 11 acres." It is located at 1075 Creek Road,Birmingham Township,West Chester,Chester County,Pa This is a corner property that is on the bank of the Brandywine River and the other side of the creek is Pocopson Township. The current owners are not descendents and have owned the property for about 45 years.It was used as a horse farm and has two large barns. I plan to attend the auction because there will be a number of old books for sale and I may take pictures of the property. If anyone is interested in this,please let me know and I'll try to get more info for you. Dolores
It's worth checking the Chester list archives for Enoch Lewis as there were 6 or more references in old list posts to that name. To search the old list posts I recommend a www.Google.com search like this: "Enoch Lewis" PA-OLD-CHESTER-L That has the advantage of finding the Chester List archives without having to use the clumsy Rootsweb archive search service <http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=PA-OLD-CHESTER> that only allows you to search one year of posts at a time. It also returns some other pages that may not be list archives, but it's easier than searching the list archives 7 times, once in each year archived. The summaries Google shows also make it easier to weed out bad results. While I'm at it I'd like to offer some other tips on useful Google search tricks to help get better results without wading through pages of useless links. I won't presume to tell people something they may know, but using a few tricks can make Google offer much better results when you're looking for needles in haystacks. I find varying strategies tends to find new ways for me to find useful info online. First of all, Google's Advanced search, <http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en> has a lot of useful options. I tend to just add terms to the simple search window on Google, and I use the Google Toolbar so I rarely go directly to Google's site to start a search. I've also raved before about how Google Desktop will index files on your PC and all web sites you browse. This makes it gradually more useful for genealogy searches once you've browsed lots of genealogy sites, especially with lists of names like tax lists and will lists. You can probably tell I love Google. Advanced Search offers useful things like phrases (you can just add a name in quotes in a basic search for the same result), searching specific sites (I'll show a simple way to do that with basic searches below), and excluding specific web sites. It is also possible to add number range to a search. For example, you can only include results with a number between 1741-1775 appears on the page. As a friend of mine says, how cool is that? Very cool when looking for results with specific date ranges where you don't know an exact year to include. For genealogy searches you should be able to restrict results to pages with a certain date range, assuming the page you want has dates. I suspect this would help a lot with the more common names that tend to bring up many references to living persons. Adding a specific site or term can help limit results to useful sites. For example, the search above uses the term PA-OLD-CHESTER-L. Another useful term is USGENWEB to find references in the GENWEB archives. "Will abstracts" also is a good one for finding wills. You can add specific sites to search using the Advanced search form at Google or simple add the site domain to your search. You can also just add site:rootsweb.com (example: "Lewis Enoch" site:rootsweb.com) to any search and have it give only results found on rootsweb.com, which will include list archives, USGENWEB and a large number of other genealogy pages on rootsweb. I find best results from putting names in quotes, though this will only help with exact spellings and won't find variants such as abbreviations or alternate spellings. Also, it's worth trying the name in a "SURNAME, NAME" format as this is what we usually find used for wills and many tax records. The comma doesn't really even matter because Google ignores it. So this can result in finding results for "Lewis, Enoch" such as the person Lewis Enoch, or false results where lists of other names combine with commas. More common names are less likely to find unique results so adding other terms can help. For example "Enoch Lewis" Chester site:rootsweb.com will find more specific results referencing Chester. In this case it finds us a marriage record in the first result. And that gives us a marriage record in 1772: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/chester/church/stgabriels.txt Records of Chester Co. Residents at St. Gabriels Church Berks Co. (1753-1777) 1772 - 8-17 Enoch Lewis Ema Lauder Searching for wills is tricky because of the common use of the word will. I usually try a few different terms such as: wills Will abstract Will abstracts Will book Will witness I haven't found a consistent way to get good results because wills and abstracts tend to not be consistent and the various GENWEB files that list abstracts tend to not use consistent words. Adding the term will 'will abstracts', i.e. "Lewis, Enoch" will abstracts brings up one in Swarthmore in a finding aid of George family papers that I had mentioned recently. A George was a lawyer for some for the Welsh settlers and this cites a will on file there from 1763 - possibly exactly what you are looking for to prove if a Philip was son of Enoch. In this case I can't find the will in Chester Will extracts so he may have died elsewhere. See: <http://www.swarthmore.edu/library/friends/ead/5170gefa.htm> for the will reference. Other useful terms to add to searches include dates if you have a specific reference. For example, some of the Worldconnect site GEDCOM files reference a marriage of Philip Lewis to Elizabeth Wasson as in 1775. There is some debate over whether this is the correct Elizabeth Wasson, but we at least have a date so someone appears to have found a marriage record even though the source isn't cite. So lets see what we get for: "Philip Lewis" wasson 1775 site:rootsweb.com In this case that finds only one page and it's not much help but it's a good example of why Google cache is important. The page referenced actually now has no reference to Wasson on the page at all! This is because it's a page generated from a GEDCOM file and when the file was updated and regenerated it created a new page named g0000166.htm that no longer contains the same content. But Google has a cached copy of the page it had indexed that included the name, the date and the name Wasson. Personally I find 98% of the these GED2HTML generated pages are useless because they almost never include sources of the data and the pages tend to be long (use Ctrl-F to search within the page). The pages often are not the same as what Google had indexed so I end up going to cached copies and still find no useful info other than possible leads on parents or children. Click on the link below the page summary for the cached copy. This is very handy because a lot of pages disappear from the Internet but leave traces. In this case it's still not very helpful for our search. It's the wrong Philip Lewis and wrong Wassons. Back to the problem of Google referencing pages that are no longer online: Google keeps cached copies for some time but eventually those disappear. But there's another great site that attempts to archive old web sites, the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine. <http://www.archive.org/index.php> For example, you find a web page referencing a site that looks interesting linked from some other site and the link is dead. I find many genealogy links are to sites that are no longer online. So go to the Wayback machine and plug in the URL there and there is a good chance that you'll find it archived: http://www.archive.org/web/web.php (just search Google for Wayback Machine or Internet Archive, it's faster than typing the link or looking up bookmarks) One trick for using the archives is that pages will have links to the old missing site. Right click on the link and paste that into the Wayback Machine. Sometimes only same pages of a site will be indexed or it won't be there, but I've used this trick to recover old web sites or even to find phone numbers and email addresses related to sites that went away years ago. The Internet Archive is a great site that deserves broader mention. There is an incredible wealth of old films, free music and books offered there. There are 30,000 books there including projects such as Gutenberg and library book scanning initiatives. There are 2,396 books there with "history" in the title and I have found family, county, state and world history books there that may have useful genealogy references. <http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=history%20AND%20mediatype%3Atexts> Another good book search is Google Books. Back to Enoch Lewis, I tried Worldconnect, which I have mentioned before because it's such a great way to search for paired surnames. <http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi> There's a tree here that makes a plausible connection to an Enoch Lewis from a Lewis family in Radnor. That would most likely be a Welsh Quaker family and a good candidate for some relationship to the Enoch Lewis that was born 1776 who was a teacher at Westtown, a Quaker school. See: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=chipmunk&id=I1056 2 There also is an Enoch Lewis cited in a book on the history of Delaware that placed one Enoch Lewis, cordwainer, was a resident of Wilmington circa 1750's. Also a history of Delaware County cites some Enoch Lewis references. You find these references via a Google search on: "Enoch Lewis" Delaware History Ashmead's Delaware County history seems to cite only the later Enoch Lewis but it's probably worth looking at in case I missed something. Scharf, Thomas J., History of Delaware, 1609-1888 has some references that may seem to be outside the area you're looking but I'd recommend a closer look. The first link in Scharf cites a market house built with funding from a group that includes Enoch Lewis and that includes people from Chester. Wilmington is reasonably close to Chester County. Another Google trick here is to pay attention to the [ More results from ... ] link at the bottom of search summaries. In this case clicking that finds 4 more references in Scharf's book not shown in the initial results. In one of those we find: "In 1736 lots were bought (in Wilmington) by Joseph Steel, yeoman, of Maryland; John McArthur, weaver; Thomas Tatnall, of Ridley; William Levis, Joseph Peters, Abraham Skinner, mariner; Lucas Stidham, Enoch Lewis, cordwainer; Hans Rudolph, Henry Heath, George Howell, storekeeper; David Bush, merchant; Alexander Hooge, carpenter; Thomas Downing, inn-keeper; Thomas Broom." That gives us a trade for this Enoch. Also we see in this book that the late Enoch Lewis, the teacher, ran a school in Wilmington (he also taught at the Quaker school in Westtown not far from there), and that the Shipley who helped found Wilmington was married to a Lewis and ran a shipping company. A cordwainer was a shoemaker. Taking this piece of info puts an interesting perspective on the wills Sandra cited. I'll include the abstracts. EVANS, WILLIAM. Cordwinder. Willistown. March 24, 1768. April 4, 1768. To brother Jonathan Evans £10. To sister Mary, wife of Ezekiel Bowen £5. To Levi Bowen and his wife Ann, my sister, all remainder of estate real or personal. Executor: Levi Bowen. Wit: Rowland Ellis, Enoch Lewis, Danl. Cornog. ELLIS, HUMPHREY. Haverford. September 8, 1731. March 17, 1741/2. B. 106. To sons Humphrey and Jeremiah 10 shillings each. To daughter Rachel 10 shillings. To daughter Eleanor £5. To granddaughters Perthiana and Sarah 5 shillings each. Remainder inc land and plantation to son Subilynus and daughters Margaret and Mary subject to maintenance of wife Jane during life. Executors: sons Subilnus and Jeremiah. Witnesses: Amos Lewis, Enoch Lewis, Thos. Vaughan. So, the Enoch Lewis here is cited as a witness to a shoemaker's will seems like it could be the same Enoch Lewis shoemaker who bought property in Wilmington. Note that the date of this 1768 will is later than the 1761 will we found for an Enoch in the George papers. So we've found at least 3 Enoch Lewises in the general area from 1741 - 1800. The 1741 will witness could be the earlier Enoch who presumably died around 1761. The one in the 1768 will is clearly not the educator born in 1776. Willistown is also in reasonable proximity to Wilmington and to Haverford and Radnor. Haverford and Radnor were related Welsh tract Quaker meetings. Swarthmore, where we found the will reference, is also a Quaker archive. All this does point to Quaker connections for Enoch, which means there's a good chance of references in the Quaker records such as Hinshaws Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy which may show arrival dates from other meetings, departure for other meetings, births and deaths. Also there may be more detailed records in the actual meeting records if you're willing to go search through archives. Also, with regard to Google search tips for genealogy, as an afterthought I did a search and found a few pages on the web offer various tips, some of which I covered here and some offer additional ideas. I believe we're at the golden age of genealogy with more records than ever available to us at out fingertips, but it's even worse than the classic needle in a haystack when it comes to searching billions of web pages to find the ones that are useful.
In a message dated 7/22/2006 9:41:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, ferg@ntelos.net writes: described as pox marked, who lived to 'tell the tale'! Well, remember many had cow pox <G> But 1/3 died is the figure I keep hearing/reading. Typhus did so many in, must have been bad on little ships <G> Eliz
I checked The Welcome Society site, and Valentine Hollingsworth traveled aboard the Antelope. Here is the URL for the Welcome Society. Originally the society only accepted members with ancestors who traveled aboard the Welcome, but now they accept anyone who can prove direct descent from any passenger on any of Penn's fleet that arrived in 1683 (a total of 23 ships)....this would include the Antelope, so anyone with proven line to Valentine would be eligible to join. http://www.welcomesociety.org/ The following URL is for the site that contains the ships' names; http://www.welcomesociety.org/Welcome_crossings.htm S. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/394 - Release Date: 7/20/2006
According to THE WELCOME CLAIMANTS PROVED, DISPROVED AND DOUBTFUL, by The Welcome Society, The Hollingsworths, both Valentine and his son, Henry, were NOT on the Welcome, and their names actually appear on the Disproved list, a group of names that claim to have been on the Welcome, but have been proven not to be. There are pages and pages on this family, in the book As I posted earlier, Henry arrived on the Lion of Liverpool, and the name Valentine appears on no list..... -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/394 - Release Date: 7/20/2006