In 1693, there was an inhabitant of New Sweden whose name was Matts DeVoss, who had been born in Sweden and was still living in '93. According to THE 1693 CENSUS OF SWEDES ON THE DELAWARE, by Craig, Devoss/DeVos/DeFoss were other names for Johansson, which also was Jansen. This earlier Matthias Mattsson de Foss was a blacksmith who arrived in New Sweden with his brother Anders Mattsson in 1754....there was also another Matthias Mattsson in the colony, so tracing each Matthias is difficult. . I checked the CD of wills and there are no Jansen/Jansan/JansonJamsen wills recorded in Chester Co, and no mentions of the surname in the wills of others. The will for Claus Jamsen is as follows.....Phil Co. JAMSEN, CLAUS. Germantown.Executor: Son Claus, sole heir.Witnesses: January Dooden, Dirck Jansen and Francis Daniel Pastorius. (There is no date given, but it is found between 2 1711 will probates and is definitely pre 1726.) Sandra -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006

from a lookup in the 1765 Chester Co Archives; There are actually 2 listings under Alexander McPherson...one owned 200 acres in Sadsbury, along with 4 head of horse, 4 head of cattle and 10 sheep; the 2nd Alexander owned 130 acres in West Caln. We have several new members and hope that, after reading their Welcome Email, they will post their family names, along with some dates, and what they hope to find. Sandra -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006

On http://www.findagrave.com there are three possibilities: Carter Cemetery in Chester (map shows location) Chester Rural Cemetery in Chester(map shows location) Chester Friends Cemetery(no map) I know of at least one old cemetery located next to an office where my husband worked in the 1950's that was relocated due to building.It was on the main business street but I don't have any names.I think there are most likely others that were relocated due to the building boom in the business area. Anyway ordinarily I would go there to search but Chester is an area to avoid these days even with a university there-crime all around the town.I'll ask my husband if he can think of anything else. Dolores ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@ntelos.net> To: <pa-old-chester-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 7:14 PM Subject: [PaOldC] treating Confed. wounded in Chester > I've had a question from someone concerning an ancestor of his who was > captured/wounded at Cashtown Gap, near Gettysburg, somehow was taken to > hospital in Chester, died there in August of 1863 and was buried. This > Confederate soldier is said to have been buried in the "Chester > Cemetery''.....so my questions are directed to locals (and, you know who > you > are!). Where were wounded Confederate soldiers treated in Aug of '63, > and > where would they have been buried locally? > Sandra > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I've had a question from someone concerning an ancestor of his who was captured/wounded at Cashtown Gap, near Gettysburg, somehow was taken to hospital in Chester, died there in August of 1863 and was buried. This Confederate soldier is said to have been buried in the "Chester Cemetery''.....so my questions are directed to locals (and, you know who you are!). Where were wounded Confederate soldiers treated in Aug of '63, and where would they have been buried locally? Sandra -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006

Forwarded message, as I thought it may be interesting to others. Tim R. Hello All, I have scanned and uploaded a map that shows the route of the Ark and the Dove 1633-1634 from England to Maryland. You can view it at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com Alan Buckingham > a.d.buckingham@verizon.net <

Someone just sent me a tidbit on a passenger on the Endeavor, arriving in 1683. She says that Thomas Pierson (who came with his wife Margaret and brother John and Mary Smith his sister) was from Pownall Fee, Cheshire, England. She says that this is not her own research but from someone else....but, hopes this tid bit might be helpful to someone researching the line. Elsewhere I saw that Thomas Pearson was born in 1653, in Pownall Fee, the son of Robert and Mary Janney Pierson....(there seems to be a good deal of internet info on these folks.) SandraNo virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/445 - Release Date: 9/11/2006

According to Dr Craig, John Archer had a brother, Anders Grelsson Mink, a resident of Crane Hook. He was born in Sweden, the son of Johan Grelsson alias Cornelis. Anders came to New Sweden as a young boy, with his family on the Mercurius, in 1656. As an adult he was first known as Anders Johnsson. After the death of his father and the remarriage of his mother, Helena, to Marten Martensson, Anders left Ammansland and settled at Crane Hook where he paid a head tax in 1693. As eldest son and heir of Johan Grelsson, Anders "late of Amosland" conveyed 137 acres of his father's land to his brother John Archer. Johan Grelsson, also known as John Cornelis, was a Finn from Fryksdalen, Varmland, who arrived in New Sweden with is wife Helena and 3 children, on the Mercurius in 1657. He shared a large tract at Ammansland with Marten Martensson sr, who married Johan's widow after his death c. 1684. John and Helena had 3 know2n sons; Anders Johnsson Grelsson Mink, Arien Johnsson, later known as John Archer and Eric Johnsson who was insane. ----- -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/445 - Release Date: 9/11/2006

Hopefully, there will be some clues here, for you....especially since one is a Graham...Cumberland Co seems to have been a 'hot bed' of Holmes, with several Andrews......(it's the only county that has any wills that mention the name Andrew Holmes) S. Cumberland Co wills; HOLMES, ABRAHAM, Baltimore Town, Md. July 20, 1781/2 October 1781.Wife Esther, house and lot in town of Carlisle, Cumberland Co.,Pa.Dau. Libbey Holmes.Dau. Elizabeth Town Holmes, a minor.David Holmes, son of bro. Jonathan Holmes.Sarah Thompson, dau. of Rev. Mr. William Thompson.Abraham Holmes, son of bro. Andrew, estate in Baltimore.Exs.: Andrew Holmes and William Irwin of Carlisle, and SamuelMorrison of the town of Baltimore.Wit: Hans Morrison, Fredk. Beamer, Francis Curtis. D. 65-70. GRAHAM, AGNES, Middleton, widow. January 4, 1768. Proven May 31, 1778. Letters 20 November 1784.Grandson William Graham Holmes, minor.Plantation on Letort Spring above Carlisle.Bro.-in-law Thomas Graham.Great-granddau. Margaret Davison, minor.Granddau. Agness Holmes, minor.Granddau. Sarah Holmes, minor.Dau. Jane Holmes.If bro. Thomas Graham's children come to this country.Exs.: son-in-law Andrew Holmes, Robert Miller, Esq., and William Moore. Wit: Jno. McKnight, William King, James Moore. D. 214-215. (thesemay be a little late, but will include anyway) HOLMES, ABRAHAM, Belleford, Centre Co., now in Carlisle. June 8, 1804. 25 June 1804.Wife Rebecca.Son James, a minor.Furs from John Dunlap of Centre Co.Hatter stock from Rowland Curtin of Bellefont.House in Carlisle in possession of John Boden and Adam Isett.Bros. and sisters.Exs.: Wife Rebecca Holmes, bro. Andrew Holmes and bro. in law George Pattison. Wit.: Jno. Armor, A. P. Lyon. G. 35-36. HOLMES, JOHN, Carlisle. September 11, 1804. January 30, 1806.Wife Mary.Granddaus. Mary Offley, Jean Agnew and Jean Holmes dau. of son William Holmes, decd.Catharine and Ann, daus. of son John.Sons Garrad and Jonathan.Children of decd. dau. Mary Stevenson.Granddau. Juliana Holmes, dau. of son John.children of son Andrew Holmes, decd.Son John Holmes.Exs.: Sons John Holmes, Jonathan Holmes and John Creigh, Dr. James Armstrong and James Duncan.Wit.: James McCormick, W. Moore, Englehard Rheem. G. 136-137. HOLMES, ANDREW, Carlisle. May 20, 1809. March 12, 1810.Wife Jane.Daus. Sarah Blair and Mary Holmes as long as they remain unmarried.Sons Thomas and Andrew.Grandchildren William Blair, Andrew Blair, Henry Blair and Jane Blair.Granddaus. Elizabeth and Jane Patterson.Grandsons Holmes and George Patterson.Children of son Thompson Holmes.Children of late dau. Margaret Thompson.James son of son Abraham Holmes decd.Children of son Thomas Holmes.Dau. Nancy and her husband George Patterson.Son in law John Thompson of Frederick Town.Exs.: Friends Samuel Postlethwaite and Jno. McClure.Wit.: John Miller, Chas. Patterson. H. 33-35. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/445 - Release Date: 9/11/2006

from a lookup: THE 1693 CENSUS OF THE SWEDES ON THE DELAWARE, by Peter Craig; "John Archer; ;born in 1649 as Arian Johnsson, he died in 1740 as John Archer. In between he first reversed his name to JohnArians. Later the surname evolved through Orien to Orchard and finally Archer. His wife, Gertrude, dau of Bartil Eskilsson (I have info on this fella, too, if you want it), died in 1748. They were residents of Raccoon Creek 1685-90, but returned to Ammansland about 1691. In 1693 their household included Helena (born 1680), Gunnar (1685) and John Archer ( 1687) and Gertrude's brother, Lasse Bartlesson." " subsequent children; Jacob (1694), Adam (1697), Maria, Catharine, Anders, Margaraet, Brigitta, a second Helena and Elizabeth. (You need to extend your research area to the West Jersey records....Gloucester Co, etc....) from a CD of PA wills; ARCHER, JOHN. Ridley.November 9, 1738. September 19, 1740. B. 64.Provides for wife Gertrude or Gartrad. To sons Gunner and John Archer the plantations they now possess to each of them. To son Adam 103 acres. To daughters Eleanor and Elizabeth, household goods and all gold and silver. To grandson John Morton 20 shillings. To grandchildren John and Mary Waldrum 5 shillings each. To granddaughter Christian Archer £5 at 21. To son Jacob all remainder of estate real and personal, also executor. Witnesses: Jos. Harvey, Benj. Taylor, Enoch Elliott. ARCHER, GERTRUDE. Ridley.November 9, 1748. November 29, 1748. C. 91.To son Jacob Archer the remainder of a bond of John Crosby, Esquire. To daughter Mary Sketchley all the money and effects she now has in her hands. To daughter Catherine Peterson £8. To son in law John Sketchley £4. To granddaughter Mary, daughter of son Adam Archer £10 out of my thirds of his estate and grandson Jacob and granddaughter Martha Archer £5 each out of same. To grandson John Morton bed and furniture. To children of son, Jacob and daughters, Ellen Jones and Elizabeth Simcock the remainder of son Adam's estate if recovered.Executors: Son Jacob and grandson John Morton.Wit: John Burston, Anne Catherine Flemen. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 9/8/2006

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Sandra, Thank you, again, for looking up the Wills and passenger lists, etc. Any "normal" person who might read these last several exchanges might conclude my search for Philip Carrel may be futile, and not worth pursuing further. It is possible that NO records still exist in PA for this family. I don't believe it. They are still hidden in some courthouse attic or church basement awaiting discovery. Like the "Energizer Bunny" I never quit. So much has not been transcribed or scanned yet. One example: In the Jefferson Co. OH deed books there is no record of Philip Carrel ever owning, paying taxes, or appearing on any documents related to land ownership. YET, in 2001, during a personal visit to the courthouse, aunt Joann Carroll was making Xerox copies of other Carroll deeds from the books. Several months later, back in Michigan, she discovered quite by accident she had made a copy of a page containing the name Philip Carrel on the bottom three lines. A partial record of some land transfer. She sent for a copy of the next page, and there was a complete record of a sale of some land by Philip Carrel and his wife Mary to another gentleman, dated May 1812. That entry still remains un-indexed, and except by a great good fortune, we never would have found it. It confirmed that our man was indeed in that county at that time. So I don't trust CDs or Indexes as being complete. That was a great lesson for me, and it should be for any serious genealogist. There is always more to be found. Cheers, Eric Olson cc: Old Chester List > [Original Message] > From: Sandra Ferguson <ferg@ntelos.net> > To: <ericbear01@earthlink.net> > Date: 9/8/2006 4:20:23 PM > Subject: * RE: CARLE / CARREL > > My point with the wills was that the name Philip Carrel, any spelling does > not appear in ANY will...that means, in the will of anyone.....for example, > the will of a parent. > Good luck with the church records...... always iffy at best, when you > think of all the little churches there once were, that no longer are extant! > > S. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eric Olson" <ericbear01@earthlink.net> > To: "Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@ntelos.net> > Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 7:10 PM > Subject: *** SPAM *** RE: CARLE / CARREL > > > > Yes, > > > > Sandra, I did receive a welcoming email from you, so that is working. > > Thank you. > > > > I did my best to write a coherent query, and included some birth > > information I did not have last year when I last visited. Of course I am > > also searching in other S. E. PA Counties for Carle / Carrel records. In > > fact I have just gone through the PA Land Warrants and Patents lists > > online, Record Group 17, and find some Carrels of various spellings, as > > first and second land owners, but still none that connects with my Philip > > Carrel. > > > > As I said, Philip Carrel died intestate, so no Will is expected to show > > up. > > However Philip's father, probably a form of John, may have left one. > > > > That about leaves the church records.... No always easily accessible > > online. > > > > Cheers, > > Eric Olson > > Seattle > > > >> [Original Message] > >> From: Sandra Ferguson <ferg@ntelos.net> > >> To: <ericbear01@earthlink.net>; <pa-old-chester@rootsweb.com> > >> Date: 9/8/2006 2:24:56 PM > >> Subject: CARLE / CARREL > >> > >> As you know, I'm sure, births and deaths weren't required by law to > > be > >> officially recorded till much after this date, so your only hope of > > finding > >> this sort thing is probably a church record.......and, as you have no > > idea > >> where, in the commonwealth of Pa they lived, you have your work cut out > > for > >> you, I'm afraid. As children were born in Lanc and Cumberland Cos, those > >> might be better bets. .... > >> Have you checked the Chester Co Federal census of 1790.?.(as one > > child > >> was born not long after this, it's somewhere to consider) ..the Chester > >> census is online and the URLs for that census are located on the Chester > >> County site mentioned in your Welcome Email, under census ( you did get > > your > >> Welcome Email, didn't you? I sent it to you personally, as we're > > undergoing > >> some technical changes at rootsweb and the software has to be > >> reprogrammed.....however, as you never let me know it arrived, I have no > > way > >> of knowing if you received it or not....if not, let me know and I'll > >> resend...it has a lot of helpful info). > >> I can tell you that no one named Philip Carle/Carrel, any spelling, is > >> mentioned in any area wills...including, Bucks, Berks, Phil, Lanc, > > Chester, > >> Del and Cumberland Cos....up to around 1840......nor is the name > > mentioned > >> in THE HISTORY OF CHESTER COUNTY PA, by Futhey and Cope.... > >> The 1765 Chester Archives list a Josh Carle who owned 150 acres in > >> Pikeland twp...nothing listed under other spellings. > >> I looked athe name up on the CD of emigrants to PA and found them > > aboard > >> the ship Patience...however, the names were spelled John Caspar Carrel 18 > >> yoa and Jacob Carrel, 40 yoa....ditto spelling on the Oath of Allegiance > >> and the listing in the book Pennsylvania German Pioneers Vol I. > >> > > Sandra > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>

As you know, I'm sure, births and deaths weren't required by law to be officially recorded till much after this date, so your only hope of finding this sort thing is probably a church record.......and, as you have no idea where, in the commonwealth of Pa they lived, you have your work cut out for you, I'm afraid. As children were born in Lanc and Cumberland Cos, those might be better bets. .... Have you checked the Chester Co Federal census of 1790.?.(as one child was born not long after this, it's somewhere to consider) ..the Chester census is online and the URLs for that census are located on the Chester County site mentioned in your Welcome Email, under census ( you did get your Welcome Email, didn't you? I sent it to you personally, as we're undergoing some technical changes at rootsweb and the software has to be reprogrammed.....however, as you never let me know it arrived, I have no way of knowing if you received it or not....if not, let me know and I'll resend...it has a lot of helpful info). I can tell you that no one named Philip Carle/Carrel, any spelling, is mentioned in any area wills...including, Bucks, Berks, Phil, Lanc, Chester, Del and Cumberland Cos....up to around 1840......nor is the name mentioned in THE HISTORY OF CHESTER COUNTY PA, by Futhey and Cope.... The 1765 Chester Archives list a Josh Carle who owned 150 acres in Pikeland twp...nothing listed under other spellings. I looked athe name up on the CD of emigrants to PA and found them aboard the ship Patience...however, the names were spelled John Caspar Carrel 18 yoa and Jacob Carrel, 40 yoa....ditto spelling on the Oath of Allegiance and the listing in the book Pennsylvania German Pioneers Vol I. Sandra -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 9/8/2006

I checked the 1765 Chester Archives, and the only Hoskins(any spelling) included that year are; Jno, in Whiteland, who owned no land but had 3 horses and 4 cattle Jos'h, who owned 113 acres in Chester twp, , 5 horses, 15 cattle, 20 sheep, and had 1 servant or slave. William, was an inmate in Upper Darby (an inmate was a married man who did not own land but resided in the twp) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 9/8/2006

Hello the List... Philip CARLE / CARREL and his wife Mary [unk] are said to be born in Germany, by several of their children in the 1880 census. These are Margaret born 20 August 1802 in Lancaster County, and Catherine born 29 August 1807 in Cumberland. Other children were John b. 1798, Mary b. 1801, Joseph b. 1804, Anthony b.1806, Henry, Jane and Philip Jr. Philip died in 1813 during the War of 1812, from Jefferson County, OH by then, and all his heirs are named in 1818 court documents in Steubenville, which are the 9 children and his widow Mary. Probate records of his estate are lost. He left no Will, and Mary declined to act as administrator. Apparently she could neither read nor write, and made her "X" when needed. The purpose of the 1818 court proceedings was to appoint a legal guardian for the minor children. The legal guardian James Tarrance made application under the Act of April 1816 for Bounty Land (granted - BL #715, which was in southern Illinois), and then relinquished it in return for 5-years military half-pay for the heirs. Unfortunately that application is lost or miss-filed at NARA. A mis-filed document at NARA might as well not exist at all. I do have his military records from NARA both from Pennsylvania Militia in 1812, and Regular Army in 1813. I am searching for ANY family information for Philip Carle / Carrel in pre-War of 1812 Pennsylvania. I have found a Jacob and John Carrel traveling together on the ship Patience, Rotterdam to Philadelphia in, 1748. Jacob is 40 and John is 17, probably father and son. Women were not listed. Jacob and John took their oaths in Philadelphia and those records spell with a "K" - Karle and Karrel. I can find no further trace of them. And lastly there is a Philip Carrel advertised as a run-away servant, a German, in Lancaster Co, placed by a John Eigener of Lancaster Co. in a 1761 Philadelphia newspaper. I can't tie him in. My ancestor Philip Carle / Carrel was probably born about 1775, and began raising a family in PA in 1798 when first child was born. Aside from the above, their is no census record, tax record, marriage or birth records, etc. that I have been able to find. Am I missing something? I am at a loss to know how to proceed. I would think there should at least be birth records for these nine children... Thank you, Eric Olson Eric Olson ericbear01@earthlink.net Eight nickels makes 2 paradigms.

The name John Hoskins appear on land holders list of 1689, and in 1715, when it is included on the Chester twp tax list. The name appears many times in the Chester Co court records (90+) between 1697 and 1710. here are a few, abridged, below. David Lloyd acknowledged a deed to John Hodgskins...47 foot land fronting to the street that leads along the greene..& 20 acres land lying in the woods....13rh day 10m 1693. appointed appraiser for the court....1698 served on many juries and did many estate apprasials for the court. John Hoskins and his mother Mary Hoskins and Chatrles Whitaker acknowledge a deed to Jos. Richards Sr for a lot of land lying in Chester Town the deed bearing date 20th Dec 1699. ( John Sr was dead by this date, but I can't find a will for him....under any spelling...send me the spelling, will you? I'm curious.) ... Helped lay out a road from the west side of Chester creek where the ferry is . 1699 As John the SR died before 1699, all mentions of the name after that date are John, Jr....before that date I'm not sure how you can tell which is which.... HOSKINS, JOHN. .January 1, 1716. Adm. to Ruth Hoskins. (this appears to be the son ) ...this indicates there is no will for John Jr, but adm. papers are on record) Sandra -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.1/440 - Release Date: 9/6/2006

Sandra: Thank you for taking time to help on this... it has been very problematic indeed and you are assisting several of us that are all working on the same main problem some of the researchers working with me have worked on this a great many years. We have quite a bit of info on John I who came from Frodsham/Cheshire England 1682/1682. He did leave a will and had a large estate for the time. He signed it Hodgkinson although the exuctors corrected it later to Hoskins. His son was John II and was Sheriff of Chester but he died at a fairly young age as you note. We have seen the Orphan Court record to which you refer I believe. John III is the one in question and the one that causes so many problems some early genealogies are incorrect and there is much heresay about the whole matter so we are trying to nail this down once and for all. We have a document where John III petitioned the court trying to get his share of the estate but it seems he wasn't lucky ... also his brother Stephen did the same thing. Their brother Joseph is the fellow who was a judge there and set up the first school from his will. We know much about the rest of the family except for John III and this is the fellow who tradition and some reseach has as our ancestor. We have one fellow who has taken time to look through all the tax lists but John III doesn't seem to be around. In the petition to the court he stated he was sickly in 1730 but his brother Joseph leaves him his clothing in his will at a much later date 1770s. Other documents point to John III dying in 1780. He is suspected to have had many wives and several children one of his wives seems to have been a widow by the name of Eleanor Arthur the widow of Charles Arthur... we know this because of documents where they were already married and the estate hadn't even been settled... they owed Nathan Evans money because of her deceased husband's estate. We are hoping to find something that shows John III was exempted from paying taxes either b/c he was poor or unhealthy or something of that nature. JJH On 9/7/06, Sandra Ferguson <ferg@ntelos.net> wrote: > The name John Hoskins appear on land holders list of 1689, and in 1715, > when it is included on the Chester twp tax list. > The name appears many times in the Chester Co court records (90+) > between 1697 and 1710. here are a few, abridged, below. > > David Lloyd acknowledged a deed to John Hodgskins...47 foot land fronting to > the street that leads along the greene..& 20 acres land lying in the > woods....13rh day 10m 1693. > > appointed appraiser for the court....1698 > > served on many juries and did many estate apprasials for the court. > > John Hoskins and his mother Mary Hoskins and Chatrles Whitaker acknowledge a > deed to Jos. Richards Sr for a lot of land lying in Chester Town the deed > bearing date 20th Dec 1699. ( John Sr was dead by this date, but I can't > find a will for him....under any spelling...send me the spelling, will you? > I'm curious.) > ... > Helped lay out a road from the west side of Chester creek where the ferry is > . 1699 > As John the SR died before 1699, all mentions of the name after that date > are John, Jr....before that date I'm not sure how you can tell which is > which.... > HOSKINS, JOHN. .January 1, 1716. Adm. to Ruth Hoskins. (this appears to be > the son ) ...this indicates there is no will for John Jr, but adm. papers > are on record) > > Sandra > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.1/440 - Release Date: 9/6/2006 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Does anyone have anything on Andrew Holmes cited in the will below? I've been looking for an Andrew Hume that had a land warrant in Hanover Twp, Lancaster County circa 1737. That's the only reference I found to him and it looks like John Hume completed the survey and got the property a few years later. This will looks like an interesting lead, especially with some Grahams settled in Hanover Twp attending the same church, Old Hanover Presbyterian, that I find the Hume family at in the latter half of the 18th century. There are other potential Hume/Graham connections in the area prior to that. There was a John Hume who was an indentured servant of Andrew Hamilton in NJ in 1680's before that Andrew Hamilton became Lt. Gov of PA in 1701. That John Hume was dead by 1690's but had owned property adjacent to Lewis Morris, a future Gov. of NJ who was married to a daughter of James Graham of NY who had witnessed Penn's arrival at New Castle. I've also been looking at the Rev. Holmes family that immigrate to Boston with a Rev. Craighead. Craighead moved to PA to service churches there and it seems plausible some of the Holmes followed. There was also a Holmes family in VA from Jamestown on and a Hume line in VA from early 18th century. -----Original Message----- Here is an abstract for William Graham's will in 1761. He mentions his brother, Robert Graham. Maybe he's yours. Prove date is 27 Apr 1761 William Graham. 18 Feb 1761. Wife Anne. Dau. Jean, plantation upon Bonney Brook, where the Riggs now live. Granddau.: Anne Graham, a minor. Bro. Thomas Graham. Bro. Robert. Exs., wife and Andrew Holmes. Book and page is A, 84.

Visit the Chester Co site, as suggested in your Welcome Email......I have listed MANY early churches, and their dates of inception. Sandra -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.1/440 - Release Date: 9/6/2006

There are two Baptist churches that apparently saw a lot of Quakers join after the Keithian Separatist schism in late 1600s and early 1700s. Great Valley is one of those and I know that a lot of Welsh Quakers ended up there. I forget the other one offhand but I think it was mentioned in some posts I made on the Keithians here and on the Quaker Roots list and on the web page I cited the info from. I believe there is also a list of early churches on Sandra's PA-Roots Chester site. And there is some info on early Presbyterian churches in some pages I host at www.mal.net/EarlyPresbyterians/. -----Original Message----- From: James Hoskins Is there a timeline anywhere of what churches were in Chester in the early 1700s? I find that some of my quakers are missing and need to locate them.