Michel, almost all the date I have sent you, AND posted to this list IS fromTHE 1693 CENSUS OF SWEDES ON THE DELAWARE.......the original Clas Jansson, arrived in New Sweden in 1637-8..His son, Clas Johnsson ended up owning land in Neshaminy, Bensalem twp, Bucks Co, where he paid taxes....as I included in the last posing on this fella, he was born ca 1658 and married Walborg, b 1661, dau of Matthias Bengtsson....he died Dec 1723, "probably 65 yoa" I included his will last time, too. So, I imagine this is about as good as you're going to get as far as birth info. (Walborg d 4-1732, "aged about 68 pr 70") I believe some of this info is from the PENNSYLVANIA MAGAZINE OF HISTORY AND BIOGRAPHY, 2:226, 341-42. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.5/451 - Release Date: 9/19/2006

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> "These names are the neighbors around my ancestors land. Years > included > are 1772-1785 and in West Bradford..by the Branches of the Brandywine. > I'm > trying to locate this land and hope that maybe even one someone can > provide > some info regarding the land of their ancestor. Names include: ... > Thomas Buffington..." Unfortunately for you, the Buffington's were prolific. It is said that 115 family members of blood descent attended a party in 1739 to honor their patriarch, Richard Buffington, who was turning 85. There have been many descendants named Thomas Buffington. It is believed that Richard's father was named Thomas. The primary inheritor of Richard's land when he died in 1747 was his son by his third marriage, Joseph Buffington. It is said the family originally settled in West NJ before moving to Upland (now Chester) PA about 1677.In any case, their land claim predates the arrival of Wm Penn. Patents are recorded from 1684 onward. At the time of the Revolutionary War, the area known as Buffington's Ford was on the east branch of the Brandywine, just above the point at which the creek forks about six miles above Chadd's Ford. This may give some clue as to where their land was located. A Thomas Buffington of East Caln was a will testator sometime between 1736 and 1750. A Joseph Woodward of Goshen was a will testator some time between 1713 and 1736. I had no better luck than Sandra finding the Hannan name. There are Hannums and Harlans in the testator list. Stalher was not in the list either. Carol

Hi All - For those people who are not aware of it, The Presbyterian Historical Society in Philadelphia maintains archived records of individual Presbyterian churches. They do not research what is in the records but if you know the exact name of the Presbyterian Church you're interested in and its location, they will email a list of the types of records (as well as the years of those records) held for that individual church by the Society - helpful information to have before travelling to research the records. I am forwarding the below email which I received in response to my request to the Presbyterian Historical Society regarding what types of records (and the years of those records) they had for the Upper Octorara Presbyterian Church in Chester Co., PA. I thought some people might be interested to know what records they have for this church. Jeanne ----- Original Message ----- From: Bridget Arthur Clancy To: wcjeanne@sbcglobal.net Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 1:19 PM Subject: Re: Upper Octarara Presbyterian Church June 28, 2006 Via e-mail: wcjeanne@sbcglobal.net Jeanne Delaney Re: Upper Octarara Presbyterian Church Dear Ms. Delaney: Thank you for contacting the Presbyterian Historical Society regarding your search for genealogical information. A search of our catalogs shows our holdings contain records of the Upper Octarara Presbyterian Church, Parkesburg, Pennsylvania: Upper Octorara Presbyterian Church, Parkesburg, PA Session minutes and records, 1810-1944, 6 vols. (call no. Vault BX9211.P49365 U61). v.1. Membership, 1813-1841; Baptisms, 1811-1840; Marriages, 1811-1860. v.2. Membership, 1842-1851; Baptisms, 1842-1851; Marriages, 1842-1851. v.3. Membership, 1850-1886; Baptisms, 1850-1859. v.4. Membership, 1887-1905; Baptisms, 1887-1906; Marriages, 1888-1904. Roll of communicants, 1724-1915 (call no. Vault Folio BX9211.P49365 U622). Registers, 1859-1886; 1906-1924, 3 vols. (call no. Vault BX9211.P49365 U62). Pastoral register of Thomas McDowell, 1883-1905, 2 vols. (call no. Vault BX 9225 .M148 A31). v.1. Membership, 1884-1896; Baptisms, 1884-1892; Marriages, 1883-1899. v.2. Membership, 1896-1905; Baptisms, 1893-1905; Marriages, 1899-1906. Dismission certificate stubs, 1905-1929, 2 vols. (call no. Vault BX 9211 .P49365 U621). List of Members, 1937 (call no. MS P221um). Sexton's cemetery records, 1866-1933, 2 vols. (call no. Vault BX 9211 .P49365 U625). Cemetery Association Treasurer's records, 1943-1968 (call no. Vault BX 9211 .P49365 U6931). Record of lots in the old part of cemetery Upper Octorara Church, 1901, (call no. Vault Folio BX 9211 .P49365 U625). "Annex to cemetery belonging to the Upper Octoraro Presbyterian Church, Chester County, Penna.," (call no. Map Case 58.3) "Annex to cemetery belonging to the Upper Octoraro Presbyterian Church, Chester County, Pennsylvania, John W. Martin," (call no. Map Case 58.2) "Inscriptions on stones in Upper Octorara Cemetery," (call no. MS P229um (8)). Pew rent plans (call no. Map Case 25.13; 25.14). The Presbyterian Historical Society is the national archives of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.). Due to our duties for the church, our staff does not provide genealogical research. We can only inform you whether or not we have records from a given church. If you cannot come to Philadelphia, the Genealogical Society of Pennsylvania maintains a list of its members who are available for hire to perform genealogical research. The list is posted on their website at http://www.genpa.org/profgen.html. We are not responsible for any private research contracts, and we do not specifically recommend any one researcher. You are welcome to visit the society to use our collections, since our materials do not circulate. The reading room is open Monday through Friday, 8:30 a.m. until 4:30 p.m., closed Saturdays, Sundays, and holidays. We will be closed on Monday, July 3, and Tuesday, July 4, in observance of the Independence Day holiday. There is a daily research fee of $5.00. Further information about our services, collections, and locations may be found at our website, www.history.pcusa.org. Please remember to send any e-mail inquiries to our general reference e-mail account, refdesk@history.pcusa.org, which is checked daily and allows us to respond in the most efficient manner. You may also contact us by phone at 215-627-1852. Sincerely, Bridget Arthur Clancy Reference Librarian Presbyterian Historical Society 425 Lombard St. Philadelphia, PA 19147 (215) 627-1852 (215) 627-0509 www.history.pcusa.org

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I found a couple interesting things.. Curtis Lewis was listed as a landowner, in East Caln, 1774, but On April 12th, 1778, he is listed in Council notes as a forfeited estate to be sold....that of Curtis Lewis, blacksmith. I found several wills that mention "lands formerly belonging to Curtis Lewis".....one was in Uwchlan, the home of many Welsh folks (and Lewis is a very Welsh name)...wills in1784 and 1786. .........in a will of 1788, from East Caln, there is the following statement "executors to interest in lands of Curtis Lewis, deceased." So, he was dead by this date. Are you sure about the John Jackson info, and his being a Quaker? Unfortunately there are several John Jacksons, and I have found one who was among the committee of the Western MM....one of many Committees of Conference, created by the Quakers of Chester Co, whose aim was to attend to those who suffered harm during the Rev. War....they were not, as some mistakenly suggested "Quaker Tories", but men who ''chose to obey God and could not violate their own consciences and their believe in the sacredness of all human life and the sinfulness of taking it away." The term "Quaker Tories" was applied by local neighbors who were angry they did not aid the Colonial troops! I checked the CD of PA wills, hoping John would appear in the will of a parent, etc, but no luck....and, there are no wills in Chester that contain the surname McGuin, any spelling. I did find some McQuins in Philadelphia in the 1750s, and even a McGuigan (yet another spelling for you.) There are a great many tax lists located on the Chester Co site.....have you gone through all those, looking for John McQuin? You might want to try that. I can tell you, though, that the name (any spelling) does not appear in the index of THE HISTORY OF CHESTER COUNTY PA, by Futhey and Cope, nor in a commentary about the Battle of the Brandywine....so, I'm just striking out today, I'm afraid. There is a land lookup offered on the Chester site,that I mentioned in your Welcome Email....don't remember the years offhand, but you can check the lookup list for particulars. Good luck. Sandra -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.5/450 - Release Date: 9/18/2006

Hi Good folks in Chester area! I am new to the list and my family may have had some roots in Chester..... I am looking for a Fellow named John McQuin ...He is so named in a publication done 1905 by our Ontario Archives . John McQuin is a witness for 2 Chester County known Loyalists during the hearings by the British for petitions by those Loyalists who were displaced from their homes 1775-1783. I can find no land petition or grant for John in Upper Canada and yet he witnesses for others! I wondered if it would help if some of you in the know about Chester knew who he witnessed for... 1 John Jackson, Quaker, who did some spying for the Brits just prior to the battle of the brandywine .Unfortunately there is no mention of location for Jackson's property -Jacob Buffington was a witness for Jackson in the petition hearing too . 2 Also the second individual John McQuin witnessed for in same sort of hearing was the Widow of Curtis Lewis. Apparently Curtis Lewis knew John Jackson and helped in the spying incident. He had 2 properties . One was in the "great Valley, East Caln Tp and the second, a farm in West Bradford (209 Acres) . We know that Curtis had at least one brother John and a son Reuben who stayed in the USA Obviously John McQuin was in these areas of Chester County and that is all I know about him. He would obviously have been there at the outbreak of actual war in 1775-6 and any land may have been confiscated and sold. Much liberty is allowed for some very wild spelling variations McKin McGuin MaGin etc Any help appreciated. Rob McGinn, Thunder Bay, Ontario Canada

By term I'm assuming you mean "Branches of the Brandywine"? If so, there is a map on the Chester site that is OF the Branches of the Brandywine....which means the Brandywine River with all it's branches....this should be just what you're looking for. Sandra , ...." but, first what does anyone know of this term. Found it as a locale for a patent for one of these names. Most are for Bradford (West). My land record is from there. The years include: 1772-1785." -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.5/450 - Release Date: 9/18/2006

I would suggest you visit the archives for this list (URL in your Welcome Email)...there's no sense in reinventing the wheel, and I know there is much on at least the Woodwards and Buffingtons...I have Woodwards myself and have personally posted a good bit on them, thought the years. Use your surnames of interest as your search subject and read up on all that's been posted in the past...it may well help you in your search. Your Welcome Email also suggests you visit the Chester Co site.....it contains a good many maps of the area, which may be of interest to you.....the Map heading is located toward the bottom of the right hand column of listed items....they cover different subjects(townships, etc) and many different timeframes, so you'll just need to read through those offered to see if any are of the timeframe you're interested in...... There is also a lookup offered for Chester County land records, although offhand I don't remember the dates covered....but, check to see...who knows? You might get lucky. On the Chester site there are tax lists included, some for Bradford.....are your folks on the west Bradford? . In 1774 I see a Robert, John and Wm Buffington, but no Hannan or Stahler....and, a whole raft of Woodwards...John, Joseph, Sarah, Wm. Wm the carpemter, and Robert... Next time you post, be sure to include the name of your ancestors, too.......many folks on this list have lots of resources and are always VERY helpful with lookups, but we can't really help without a name. Sandra "These names are the neighbors around my ancestors land. Years included are 1772-1785 and in West Bradford..by the Branches of the Brandywine. I'm trying to locate this land and hope that maybe even one someone can provide some info regarding the land of their ancestor. Names include: Richard Woodward (late), Thomas Buffington, John Hannan (late) and George Stalher and his wife . Would there be a good map of the area from that time?" -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.5/450 - Release Date: 9/18/2006

Hello, These names are the neighbors around my ancestors land. Years included are 1772-1785 and in West Bradford..by the Branches of the Brandywine. I'm trying to locate this land and hope that maybe even one someone can provide some info regarding the land of their ancestor. Names include: Richard Woodward (late), Thomas Buffington, John Hannan (late) and George Stalher and his wife Sarah. Would appreciate any help whatsoever. Would there be a good map of the area from that time? Thank you, Pat from MN --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.

Hello, Have a land record that I'm trying to locate on a map, someday. Have the neighbors names and there's two that might be of help. Will submit another letter with these names; but, first what does anyone know of this term. Found it as a locale for a patent for one of these names. Most are for Bradford (West). My land record is from there. The years include: 1772-1785. Thank you for your consideration. Pat from MN --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.

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I found a possible answer on http://www.oldchesterpa.com/crc/crcmain.html It is a cemetery founded in March 1863 and among the first interments were casualties from the civil war-both sides. It has a link to find a searchable index of all those ever interred at Chester Rural. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@ntelos.net> To: <pa-old-chester-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 7:14 PM Subject: [PaOldC] treating Confed. wounded in Chester > I've had a question from someone concerning an ancestor of his who was > captured/wounded at Cashtown Gap, near Gettysburg, somehow was taken to > hospital in Chester, died there in August of 1863 and was buried. This > Confederate soldier is said to have been buried in the "Chester > Cemetery''.....so my questions are directed to locals (and, you know who > you > are!). Where were wounded Confederate soldiers treated in Aug of '63, > and > where would they have been buried locally? > Sandra > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

John Classon/Clas Jansson, a passenger on the 1st voyage of the Kalmar Nyckel to New Sweden in 163708, is recorded as the first settler at the site later called "mill Dorp" (Fort Christina later became Mill Dorp, and Claes land. ) Claes/Klas Jansson(also recorded as Jansen, Johansson and Hansson), remained in New Sweden from 1638 through 1655. His name does not appear on the 1644 roll list because that list included only soldiers and servants of the company. Clas was a freeman by that time. John Claesson and his eldest son, Claes Jansson each pledged money to the Swedish church at Wicaco, Aug 10, 1684. The father apparently died soon thereafter. In 1693, he was survived by 6 known daughters Anna, Hasin or Hannah, Henrietta, Geretrude, Elizabeth adn Catharine.....and, 3 sons 1)Claes Johnsson m Walborg, dau of Matthias Bengtsson...their children in 1693 included John, Lawrence and Derick. Claes died in Dec of 1723. 2)Dirick Johnsson m Brita Gastenberg, sister of Nils and Erick GAstenburt. They had 3 children; John, Peter and Brigitta. in 1693 JOhn was found giilty of murdering an unidentified person whose bodh was found near the mouth of Neshaminy Creek. He was executed and his property confiscated..(widow remarried) 3) John Johnsson, m Margaret Williamson, dau of Dunk Williams (Scottish), and his Swedish wife Walborg. John d Bucks Co late 1721. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006

from a lookup in THE 1693 CENSUS OF SWEDES ON THE DELAWARE , by Craig; ''John Andersson Strang (Raccoon Creek, 50 acres); apparently born in America of Swedish parents, John Anderson Strang (meaning strict in Swedish), sometimes known as John Anderson the big, had established residence on Raccoon Creek by 1687. He claimed 100 acres which he shared with Pal Palsson in 1693, and finally received a deed confirming his ownership in 1701. He died at his farm on 7 July, 1726. His wife Brigitta was buried 30 Jan, 1728. Their children included Anders (b ca 1679), Peter, Carl (c 1693), Lars (c. 1698), Ella, Maria, Anna and Christina.'' -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006

I found all the following, in the 1765 Chester Archives..................(as they're odd names and somewhat alike, I'll include them all) Jno McQua a single man in Ridley Henry McQuead owned 160 acres in Easttown Archibald McQueas a freeman in Sadsbury *freeman=unmarried man who did not own land but lived in the twp -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006

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Of course.....if someone was living in New Sweden in 1693, he could hardly have arrived in 1754! Sandra Do you mean 1654? New Sweden didn't exist in 1754. "In 1693, there was an inhabitant of New Sweden whose name was Matts > DeVoss, who had been born in Sweden and was still living in '93. This earlier Matthias Mattsson de Foss was a blacksmith who arrived in New Sweden with his brother Anders Mattsson in 1754" -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006

Do you mean 1654? New Sweden didn't exist in 1754. --- Sandra Ferguson <ferg@ntelos.net> wrote: > In 1693, there was an inhabitant of New Sweden > whose name was Matts > DeVoss, who had been born in Sweden and was still > living in '93. According > to THE 1693 CENSUS OF SWEDES ON THE DELAWARE, by > Craig, Devoss/DeVos/DeFoss > were other names for Johansson, which also was > Jansen. This earlier > Matthias Mattsson de Foss was a blacksmith who > arrived in New Sweden with > his brother Anders Mattsson in 1754....there was > also another Matthias > Mattsson in the colony, so tracing each Matthias is > difficult. . > I checked the CD of wills and there are no > Jansen/Jansan/JansonJamsen > wills recorded in Chester Co, and no mentions of the > surname in the wills of > others. > The will for Claus Jamsen is as > follows.....Phil Co. > JAMSEN, CLAUS. Germantown.Executor: Son Claus, sole > heir.Witnesses: January > Dooden, Dirck Jansen and Francis Daniel Pastorius. > (There is no date > given, but it is found between 2 1711 will probates > and is definitely pre > 1726.) > > > Sandra > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - > Release Date: 9/15/2006 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > Gene Stackhouse: Beer drinking doesn't do half the harm as love-making. -- Anonymous __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Claus Jenson, Johnson, etc., of Germantown was not a Swede. He was a German and an early settler of Germantown. The Swedes settled some miles South of Germantown before Germantown was fonded. Gene Stackhouse, Germantown Historical Society. --- Sandra Ferguson <ferg@ntelos.net> wrote: > In 1693, there was an inhabitant of New Sweden > whose name was Matts > DeVoss, who had been born in Sweden and was still > living in '93. According > to THE 1693 CENSUS OF SWEDES ON THE DELAWARE, by > Craig, Devoss/DeVos/DeFoss > were other names for Johansson, which also was > Jansen. This earlier > Matthias Mattsson de Foss was a blacksmith who > arrived in New Sweden with > his brother Anders Mattsson in 1754....there was > also another Matthias > Mattsson in the colony, so tracing each Matthias is > difficult. . > I checked the CD of wills and there are no > Jansen/Jansan/JansonJamsen > wills recorded in Chester Co, and no mentions of the > surname in the wills of > others. > The will for Claus Jamsen is as > follows.....Phil Co. > JAMSEN, CLAUS. Germantown.Executor: Son Claus, sole > heir.Witnesses: January > Dooden, Dirck Jansen and Francis Daniel Pastorius. > (There is no date > given, but it is found between 2 1711 will probates > and is definitely pre > 1726.) > > > Sandra > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - > Release Date: 9/15/2006 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > Gene Stackhouse: Beer drinking doesn't do half the harm as love-making. -- Anonymous __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com