JOSEPH GIBSON b. abt. 1699 Ireland d. 1764 Nantmeal Chester Co Pa ALICE JACKSON b. 1703 Old Castle Meath Ireland They married in Ireland. All children born in Chester Co Pa ( Nantmeal ) 2 of their sons moved to Va. ISAAC GIBSON b. 1734 Chester Co Pa married an ESTHER SINKLER ( SINCLAIR ? ) in Chestewr Co Pa 1761 and moved to Va ( Loudoun Co Va ? ) their 1st child b. 1762 Va. THOMAS GIBSON b. 1740 Chester Co Pa married an ANN ? THOMAS GIBSON d. Va 1784 ( Loudoun Co Va ? ) Other children of JOSEPH & ALICE GIBSON ( not documented ) ANN GIBSON REBECCA GBSON JOSEPH GIBSON JOHN GIBSON JAMES GIBSON I am trying to find more information on this family and especially any children of THOMAS & ANN GIBSON in Va Regenia Campbell bobnregi@verizon.net

Begin forwarded message: > From: Carol Thompson <ctgd@mac.com> > Date: September 23, 2006 2:58:46 PM EDT > To: Sandra Ferguson <ferg@ntelos.net> > Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Monthly Meeting records? > > Not directly related, but on the same topic: > > http://books.google.com/books? > id=i0yRduWjrgQC&pg=PA15&ots=81X59gN_ZO&dq=Chester+Monthly+Meeting+book > > Has a downloadable copy of Memorial of Clarkson Sheppard By Society of > Friends. Chester Monthly Meeting. He died in 1895 at age eighty three > and was the son of John and Mary Sheppard of Greenwich, NJ. > > There are a number of other interesting books available on line at > this site. The site is searchable. > > Also: > Early Church Records of Chester County: Quaker Records of Bradford > Monthly Meeting, Vol. 1, Reamy. Births, deaths, marriages (including > witnesses) and minutes up to 1800. Full name index. (1995), 260pp., > softbound from Frontier Press. $20.00. > > This book is part of: > > EARLY CHURCH RECORDS OF CHESTER COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA, in 3 vols. as > follows: Vol. 1: Reamy, Martha. QUAKER RECORDS OF BRADFORD MONTHLY > MEETING, 1995. Vol. 2: Meldrum, Charlotte and Martha Reamy. QUAKER > RECORDS OF UWCHLAND, GOSHEN, & NEW GARDEN MONTHLY MEETINGS, AND EAST > VINCENT REFORMED, 1997. Vol. 3: Meldrum, Charlotte. QUAKER RECORDS OF > KENNETT, & LONDON GROVE MONTHLY MEETINGS, & EXTRACTS FROM ST JOHN'S > EPISCOPAL CHURCH AND GREAT VALLEY BAPTIST CHURCH. Family Line > Publications, 1998. (Family Line Publications, Rear 63 E. Main Street, > Westminster, MD 21157.). > > > On Sep 23, 2006, at 6:55 AM, Sandra Ferguson wrote: > >> I'd like to know the full title of this....if it's Hinshaw's Quaker >> Encyclopedia, though, it has nothing on Chester County >> included...darn it! >> Could you post the full title if it's something other than Hinshaw. >> Thanks. >> >> Sandra >> Carol Thompson CTGD 130 Center Street Clinton, NJ 08809

Excellent resource! Thank you, Mal! JFBailey www.baileywick.com -----Original Message----- From: pa-old-chester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pa-old-chester-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mal Humes Sent: 22 September, 2006 23:05 To: PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Where to find Quaker Monthly Meeting records? Regarding the Bailys, I also receommend searching the Digital Quaker collection at http://esr.earlham.edu/dqc/ for records of early Quaker Bayleys who were imprisoned and persecuted and other connections to the PA lines. I recently found that Baylis is said to be another variation on the Baillie, Baily, Bailey, Bayley name. I believe there are also some connections to the Chester County Baily/Bayley lines from some of the early VA lines of the Jordan family in Nanosemond and Isle of Wight County, VA where there are some Baily marriages. Re: http://www.quakermeetings.com/ >QuakerMeeting.com >"Monthly Meetings in North America: A Quaker Index." >It has a""Copyright C 1992 - 2004 Thomas C. Hill. All rights reserved." The site is currently down but should be back online soon. It should be the definitive source of where to find records for various historical Quaker meetings. Tom is still active on the Quaker Roots mailing list on Rootsweb and adding revisions to the site since his last book was published, and his research is quite a valuable reference. Keep in mind he does Quaker research not people research. People sometimes overlook this and email him questions about people. A recent note from him offered an example of use on the site: "As always, I know nothing about individuals, only monthly meetings and their records. My web site is down just now, but when it returns, go to <www.QuakerMeetings.com> and click on the search tab. If you input "Loudoun" in the County box and "Virg" in the State box, the result will show you every monthly meeting of Friends whose last known meeting place was in Loudoun County, Virginia. (Of course, this is a computer, so if you input "Loudon" county, you will learn only about the Tennessee county that spells its name with a single "u".)" The last time I looked there was some info there that I found confusing regarding Radnor Meeting, which I know has connections to a lot of Welsh tract families of Chester related folk. The dates listed there for Radnor cite what I think is the historical Radnor Meeting House that dates back to at least early 1700's. But in the listings the dates reflect 1950's dates when citing this meeting. This is related to the Hicksite split and there's some confusing history with Haverford and Radnor where apparently Haverford was known as Radnor at some points in time. I wanted to mention this because of the possibility over confusion resulting from records that could be cited as Radnor but found in Haverford records, and because I found the dates on the web site for Radnor confusing when I knew the meeting house had a much older history than it appears from the database info. Also, I know that many records of North Carolina Quakers are kept at Guilford College which is about 12 miles from me. I've been meaning to get there and get familiar with their resources and to try to sort out some Jordan family questions I have. There are quite a few connections between New Garden and Kennett PA Meetings and the New Garden Meeting in North Carolina and related families such as Mendenhall. I don't want to make any promises, but if anyone has records they want to research in the NC archives I may be able to assist. Please contact me privately if you have research needs in the Guilford College holdings. To unsubscribe from this list, please send the one word message, unsubscribe, to pa-old-chester-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Chester Co MM records abstracts are in the "unpublished" __Hinshaw Index to Quaker Meeting Records__ at Swarthmore. It has been filmed by LDS #0175,412 etc. in the series. This group of records HAS also been published in 1990 by Selby Publishing and Printing, 3405 Zartman Rd, Kokomo,IN. Surely they have a website by now. Hope this helps. Judy W ======================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@ntelos.net> To: "Deborah Scott Spencer" <debbie@professionalheritage.com> Cc: <pa-old-chester-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 3:55 AM Subject: [PaOldC] Monthly Meeting records? > I'd like to know the full title of this...if it's Hinshaw's Quaker > Encyclopedia, though, it has nothing on Chester County included...darn it! > Could you post the full title if it's something other than Hinshaw. > Thanks. > > Sandra > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Deborah Scott Spencer" <debbie@professionalheritage.com> > To: "Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@ntelos.net> > Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 1:31 AM > Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Where to find Quaker Monthly Meeting records? > > >> Sav - have you tried the Encyclopedia of Quaker xy & z? I don't remember >> the rest of the title, but it's 6(?) volumes? I have all of them on >> Genealogical Publishing's 'book on cd'... They imaged every page and put >> it on a cd, where you can do a search in one index of all the volumes... >> It's also either $30 or $40 vs. $150 in print form... >> >> Good luck in your research. >> >> Debbie >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@ntelos.net> >> To: "JFBailey" <JFBailey@comcast.net>; <pa-old-chester-l@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 3:09 PM >> Subject: [PaOldC] Where to find Quaker Monthly Meeting records? >> >> >>> Unfortunately, as with most things there is no giant book that >>> contains all of anything, whether it be Rev. War Vets or MM records >>> (wouldn't it be wonderful if there were?).....so, you'll have to search >>> for >>> EACH MM you're interested in. ....there was no Newlin MM, and for a >>> listing >>> of all Chester MMs, and their dates of inception, visit the Chester Co >>> site >>> and look under Quaker Info. >>> You might want to check the lookup list and see what Quaker >>> meeting >>> lookups are offered, also located on the Chester site. You could also >>> do >>> a >>> place search on the LDS online site....using Chester County Pa as your >>> search subject. This will give you a list of EVERYTHING they have >>> available >>> on film....this includes many MM records. >>> According to DESCENDANTS OF JOEL BAILY, by Gilbert Cope, (just a bit >>> on >>> each generation, in case you already have it all) >>> >>> Joel Baily and Ann Short (original emigrants) m 1687 Kennett mm >>> Josiah Baily and Sarah Marsh , 1732-3 Sadsbury >>> Joel Baily and Hannah Wickersham, m 1757 >>> Gravenor Baily , son of Joel and Hannah Wickersham Baiy, took >>> a >>> certificate from New Garden to Concord, as an apprentice, in 1778, and >>> brought one back in 1780. In 1780 he moved to Kennet, and in 1784, to >>> Warrington, York Co. >>> If Gravenor DID serve in the Military, he would have been >>> disowned >>> for that action and no longer considered a Friend or member of any MM >>> before he married a non-Quaker.) So, if he remained a member of any MM >>> till >>> his marriage, I would discount the lore that he fought in the war. >>> >>> Sandra >>> >>> >>> >>> Where does one find these records from the Quaker Monthly Meetings? Say >>> Kennett, Newlin, and Wilmington? >>> >>> Gravener Baily b.1757 Chester Co son of Joel Baily & Hannah Hayes >>> Wickersham, Quakers >>> Served as Pvt. in Capt. Joseph Luckey's 7th Cav, Newlin Twp. 1782 14 >>> October 1784 removed from the Kennett MM. >>> He married (Elizabeth ??) in Boston by a non-Quaker (Baptist teacher) >>> after >>> the Revolutionary War. >>> 12 Sep (?1787?) at the Wilmington MM, Joseph Chambers & Ephraim Yarnell >>> to >>> investigate a complaint of fornication >>> 14 Nov 1787 Wilmington MM he was no longer considered a Quaker due to >>> the >>> marriage. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.5/451 - Release Date: >>> 9/19/2006 >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list, please send the one word message, >>> unsubscribe, to >>> pa-old-chester-request@rootsweb.com >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.5/451 - Release Date: 9/19/2006 >> >> > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.5/451 - Release Date: 9/19/2006 > > To unsubscribe from this list, please send the one word message, > unsubscribe, to > pa-old-chester-request@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I'd like to know the full title of this....if it's Hinshaw's Quaker Encyclopedia, though, it has nothing on Chester County included...darn it! Could you post the full title if it's something other than Hinshaw. Thanks. Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deborah Scott Spencer" <debbie@professionalheritage.com> To: "Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@ntelos.net> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 1:31 AM Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Where to find Quaker Monthly Meeting records? > Sav - have you tried the Encyclopedia of Quaker xy & z? I don't remember > the rest of the title, but it's 6(?) volumes? I have all of them on > Genealogical Publishing's 'book on cd'... They imaged every page and put > it on a cd, where you can do a search in one index of all the volumes... > It's also either $30 or $40 vs. $150 in print form... > > Good luck in your research. > > Debbie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@ntelos.net> > To: "JFBailey" <JFBailey@comcast.net>; <pa-old-chester-l@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 3:09 PM > Subject: [PaOldC] Where to find Quaker Monthly Meeting records? > > >> Unfortunately, as with most things there is no giant book that >> contains all of anything, whether it be Rev. War Vets or MM records >> (wouldn't it be wonderful if there were?).....so, you'll have to search >> for >> EACH MM you're interested in. ....there was no Newlin MM, and for a >> listing >> of all Chester MMs, and their dates of inception, visit the Chester Co >> site >> and look under Quaker Info. >> You might want to check the lookup list and see what Quaker >> meeting >> lookups are offered, also located on the Chester site. You could also do >> a >> place search on the LDS online site....using Chester County Pa as your >> search subject. This will give you a list of EVERYTHING they have >> available >> on film....this includes many MM records. >> According to DESCENDANTS OF JOEL BAILY, by Gilbert Cope, (just a bit >> on >> each generation, in case you already have it all) >> >> Joel Baily and Ann Short (original emigrants) m 1687 Kennett mm >> Josiah Baily and Sarah Marsh , 1732-3 Sadsbury >> Joel Baily and Hannah Wickersham, m 1757 >> Gravenor Baily , son of Joel and Hannah Wickersham Baiy, took >> a >> certificate from New Garden to Concord, as an apprentice, in 1778, and >> brought one back in 1780. In 1780 he moved to Kennet, and in 1784, to >> Warrington, York Co. >> If Gravenor DID serve in the Military, he would have been >> disowned >> for that action and no longer considered a Friend or member of any MM >> before he married a non-Quaker.) So, if he remained a member of any MM >> till >> his marriage, I would discount the lore that he fought in the war. >> >> Sandra >> >> >> >> Where does one find these records from the Quaker Monthly Meetings? Say >> Kennett, Newlin, and Wilmington? >> >> Gravener Baily b.1757 Chester Co son of Joel Baily & Hannah Hayes >> Wickersham, Quakers >> Served as Pvt. in Capt. Joseph Luckey's 7th Cav, Newlin Twp. 1782 14 >> October 1784 removed from the Kennett MM. >> He married (Elizabeth ??) in Boston by a non-Quaker (Baptist teacher) >> after >> the Revolutionary War. >> 12 Sep (?1787?) at the Wilmington MM, Joseph Chambers & Ephraim Yarnell >> to >> investigate a complaint of fornication >> 14 Nov 1787 Wilmington MM he was no longer considered a Quaker due to the >> marriage. >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.5/451 - Release Date: 9/19/2006 >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, please send the one word message, >> unsubscribe, to >> pa-old-chester-request@rootsweb.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.5/451 - Release Date: 9/19/2006 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.5/451 - Release Date: 9/19/2006

Regarding the Bailys, I also receommend searching the Digital Quaker collection at http://esr.earlham.edu/dqc/ for records of early Quaker Bayleys who were imprisoned and persecuted and other connections to the PA lines. I recently found that Baylis is said to be another variation on the Baillie, Baily, Bailey, Bayley name. I believe there are also some connections to the Chester County Baily/Bayley lines from some of the early VA lines of the Jordan family in Nanosemond and Isle of Wight County, VA where there are some Baily marriages. Re: http://www.quakermeetings.com/ >QuakerMeeting.com >"Monthly Meetings in North America: A Quaker Index." >It has a""Copyright C 1992 - 2004 Thomas C. Hill. All rights reserved." The site is currently down but should be back online soon. It should be the definitive source of where to find records for various historical Quaker meetings. Tom is still active on the Quaker Roots mailing list on Rootsweb and adding revisions to the site since his last book was published, and his research is quite a valuable reference. Keep in mind he does Quaker research not people research. People sometimes overlook this and email him questions about people. A recent note from him offered an example of use on the site: "As always, I know nothing about individuals, only monthly meetings and their records. My web site is down just now, but when it returns, go to <www.QuakerMeetings.com> and click on the search tab. If you input "Loudoun" in the County box and "Virg" in the State box, the result will show you every monthly meeting of Friends whose last known meeting place was in Loudoun County, Virginia. (Of course, this is a computer, so if you input "Loudon" county, you will learn only about the Tennessee county that spells its name with a single "u".)" The last time I looked there was some info there that I found confusing regarding Radnor Meeting, which I know has connections to a lot of Welsh tract families of Chester related folk. The dates listed there for Radnor cite what I think is the historical Radnor Meeting House that dates back to at least early 1700's. But in the listings the dates reflect 1950's dates when citing this meeting. This is related to the Hicksite split and there's some confusing history with Haverford and Radnor where apparently Haverford was known as Radnor at some points in time. I wanted to mention this because of the possibility over confusion resulting from records that could be cited as Radnor but found in Haverford records, and because I found the dates on the web site for Radnor confusing when I knew the meeting house had a much older history than it appears from the database info. Also, I know that many records of North Carolina Quakers are kept at Guilford College which is about 12 miles from me. I've been meaning to get there and get familiar with their resources and to try to sort out some Jordan family questions I have. There are quite a few connections between New Garden and Kennett PA Meetings and the New Garden Meeting in North Carolina and related families such as Mendenhall. I don't want to make any promises, but if anyone has records they want to research in the NC archives I may be able to assist. Please contact me privately if you have research needs in the Guilford College holdings.

All are welcome at Swarthmore to view their Quaker records....if you do a google using "swarthmore college'' + quaker records you will be able to find listings of all their holdings. Sandra "don't know if they will let lowly genealogists or family historians will look at them I also wonder if their microfilm or microfiche copies are more complete than the FHS. " No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.5/451 - Release Date: 9/19/2006

JFBailey: http://www.quakermeetings.com/ QuakerMeeting.com "Monthly Meetings in North America: A Quaker Index." It has a""Copyright © 1992 - 2004 Thomas C. Hill. All rights reserved." Violet Moore Guy 09/22/2006 ----- Original Message ----- From: "JFBailey" <JFBailey@comcast.net> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 2:19 PM Subject: [PaOldC] Where to find Quaker Monthly Meeting records? > An effort to properly document my ancestor's data...Where does one find > these records from the Quaker Monthly Meetings? Say Kennett, Newlin, and > Wilmington? > > Gravener Baily b.1757 Chester Co son of Joel Baily & Hannah Hayes > Wickersham, Quakers > > Information passed down as Family lore.... > > Probably b. in Newlin Twp.... > Served as Pvt. in Capt. Joseph Luckey's 7th Cav, Newlin Twp. 1782 > 14 October 1784 removed from the Kennett MM. > He married (Elizabeth ??) in Boston by a non-Quaker (Baptist teacher) after > the Revolutionary War. > 12 Sep (?1787?) at the Wilmington MM, Joseph Chambers & Ephraim Yarnell to > investigate a complaint of fornication > 14 Nov 1787 Wilmington MM he was no longer considered a Quaker due to the > marriage. > > > > Joseph F. Bailey > www.baileywick.com <http://www.baileywick.com/> > SKYPE: BaileyWick > Messenger: JFBaileyWick > 1.408.867.7816 > > To unsubscribe from this list, please send the one word message, unsubscribe, to > pa-old-chester-request@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/chester/cemeteries/stpaullionv.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/chester/cemeteries/stpaulsl.txt -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.5/451 - Release Date: 9/19/2006

Cope certainly DOES mention Gravenor,.....page 82 of the book he wrote.... DESCENDENTS OF JOEL BAILY, published in 1912. I posted what he said, in total, in the last posting. Sandra " Cope does not mention Gravener" -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.5/451 - Release Date: 9/19/2006

Swarthmore College or haverford College have pretty complete Quaker Meeting Information as does familysearch.org. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@ntelos.net> To: "JFBailey" <JFBailey@comcast.net>; <pa-old-chester-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 3:09 PM Subject: [PaOldC] Where to find Quaker Monthly Meeting records? > Unfortunately, as with most things there is no giant book that > contains all of anything, whether it be Rev. War Vets or MM records > (wouldn't it be wonderful if there were?).....so, you'll have to search > for > EACH MM you're interested in. ....there was no Newlin MM, and for a > listing > of all Chester MMs, and their dates of inception, visit the Chester Co > site > and look under Quaker Info. > You might want to check the lookup list and see what Quaker meeting > lookups are offered, also located on the Chester site. You could also do > a > place search on the LDS online site....using Chester County Pa as your > search subject. This will give you a list of EVERYTHING they have > available > on film....this includes many MM records. > According to DESCENDANTS OF JOEL BAILY, by Gilbert Cope, (just a bit > on > each generation, in case you already have it all) > > Joel Baily and Ann Short (original emigrants) m 1687 Kennett mm > Josiah Baily and Sarah Marsh , 1732-3 Sadsbury > Joel Baily and Hannah Wickersham, m 1757 > Gravenor Baily , son of Joel and Hannah Wickersham Baiy, took a > certificate from New Garden to Concord, as an apprentice, in 1778, and > brought one back in 1780. In 1780 he moved to Kennet, and in 1784, to > Warrington, York Co. > If Gravenor DID serve in the Military, he would have been disowned > for that action and no longer considered a Friend or member of any MM > before he married a non-Quaker.) So, if he remained a member of any MM > till > his marriage, I would discount the lore that he fought in the war. > > Sandra > > > > Where does one find these records from the Quaker Monthly Meetings? Say > Kennett, Newlin, and Wilmington? > > Gravener Baily b.1757 Chester Co son of Joel Baily & Hannah Hayes > Wickersham, Quakers > Served as Pvt. in Capt. Joseph Luckey's 7th Cav, Newlin Twp. 1782 14 > October 1784 removed from the Kennett MM. > He married (Elizabeth ??) in Boston by a non-Quaker (Baptist teacher) > after > the Revolutionary War. > 12 Sep (?1787?) at the Wilmington MM, Joseph Chambers & Ephraim Yarnell > to > investigate a complaint of fornication > 14 Nov 1787 Wilmington MM he was no longer considered a Quaker due to the > marriage. > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.5/451 - Release Date: 9/19/2006 > > To unsubscribe from this list, please send the one word message, > unsubscribe, to > pa-old-chester-request@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I found the Monthly Meeting (MM) records that were of interest to me were fragmentary at Family Search and at Salt Lake City Family History Library. Most consisted of births, marriages and deaths. Few had records of movement of membership changes from one MM to another and none had any information of business transactions, such as appointing ministers or papers for traveling ministers. I have visited Haverford Library but don't think I asked directly if they had complete monthly meeting records. Have not been to Swarthmore but have read they do have orig9inal records but don't know if they will let lowly genealogists or family historians will look at them I also wonder if their microfilm or microfiche copies are more complete than the FHS. I am particularly interested in several Iowa MM and plan someday to contact Iowa Yearly Meeting to inquire about what records they might have. Eleanor Richard Huey <richardhuey@comcast.net> wrote: Swarthmore College or haverford College have pretty complete Quaker Meeting Information as does familysearch.org. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Ferguson" To: "JFBailey" ; Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 3:09 PM Subject: [PaOldC] Where to find Quaker Monthly Meeting records? > Unfortunately, as with most things there is no giant book that > contains all of anything, whether it be Rev. War Vets or MM records > (wouldn't it be wonderful if there were?).....so, you'll have to search > for > EACH MM you're interested in. ....there [previous message abbreviated]

George, Different Joel! Joel Baily & Anne Short Their son Josiah Bailey b, 1701 Chester Co., PA m.1733 in Chester Co., PA Sarah Marsh And their son Joel Bailey b.1723 Chester Co., PA m.1757 in Chester Co., PA Hannah Hayes Wickersham And their 1st son was Gravener Bailey b 1757 Chester Co., PA Cope did not go that far! JFBailey www.baileywick.com -----Original Message----- From: George [mailto:smedley.george@att.net] Sent: 21 September, 2006 12:36 To: JFBailey; PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Where to find Quaker Monthly Meeting records? Cope does not mention Gravener Michael Harlan,son of James Harlan,of Monkwearmouth,in England,came from the north of Ireland,with his brother George,about the year 1687,and married Dinah,dau.of Henry Dixon,of New Castle.Their eldest son,George, b.10-4-1690,m.Mary,widow of Alexander Stewart,dau.of Joel and Ann Baily, and settled on the Brandywine in what is now Newlin township.Their son Joel,b.11-10-1724;d.9-3-1796;m.10-17-1746,at Kennet Meeting,Hannah Wickersham,b.5-5-1723;d.12-15-1811;dau.of Thomas and Abigail Wickersham of East Marlborough.They had children Dinah,Ruth,Mary,Caleb (m.Hannah Edwards),Joshua and Joel.Joel Harlan Sr.,had 260 acres of land in Newlin which by will he divided between his sons,Caleb and Joel.The last named inherited the old home and continued to reside there. ----- Original Message ----- From: "JFBailey" <JFBailey@comcast.net> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 2:19 PM Subject: [PaOldC] Where to find Quaker Monthly Meeting records? > An effort to properly document my ancestor's data...Where does one > find these records from the Quaker Monthly Meetings? Say Kennett, > Newlin, and Wilmington? > > Gravener Baily b.1757 Chester Co son of Joel Baily & Hannah Hayes > Wickersham, Quakers > > Information passed down as Family lore.... > > Probably b. in Newlin Twp.... > Served as Pvt. in Capt. Joseph Luckey's 7th Cav, Newlin Twp. 1782 > 14 October 1784 removed from the Kennett MM. > He married (Elizabeth ??) in Boston by a non-Quaker (Baptist teacher) > after the Revolutionary War. > 12 Sep (?1787?) at the Wilmington MM, Joseph Chambers & Ephraim > Yarnell to investigate a complaint of fornication > 14 Nov 1787 Wilmington MM he was no longer considered a Quaker due to > the marriage. > > > > Joseph F. Bailey > www.baileywick.com <http://www.baileywick.com/> > SKYPE: BaileyWick > Messenger: JFBaileyWick > 1.408.867.7816 > > To unsubscribe from this list, please send the one word message, > unsubscribe, to pa-old-chester-request@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cope does not mention Gravener Michael Harlan,son of James Harlan,of Monkwearmouth,in England,came from the north of Ireland,with his brother George,about the year 1687,and married Dinah,dau.of Henry Dixon,of New Castle.Their eldest son,George, b.10-4-1690,m.Mary,widow of Alexander Stewart,dau.of Joel and Ann Baily, and settled on the Brandywine in what is now Newlin township.Their son Joel,b.11-10-1724;d.9-3-1796;m.10-17-1746,at Kennet Meeting,Hannah Wickersham,b.5-5-1723;d.12-15-1811;dau.of Thomas and Abigail Wickersham of East Marlborough.They had children Dinah,Ruth,Mary,Caleb (m.Hannah Edwards),Joshua and Joel.Joel Harlan Sr.,had 260 acres of land in Newlin which by will he divided between his sons,Caleb and Joel.The last named inherited the old home and continued to reside there. ----- Original Message ----- From: "JFBailey" <JFBailey@comcast.net> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 2:19 PM Subject: [PaOldC] Where to find Quaker Monthly Meeting records? > An effort to properly document my ancestor's data...Where does one find > these records from the Quaker Monthly Meetings? Say Kennett, Newlin, and > Wilmington? > > Gravener Baily b.1757 Chester Co son of Joel Baily & Hannah Hayes > Wickersham, Quakers > > Information passed down as Family lore.... > > Probably b. in Newlin Twp.... > Served as Pvt. in Capt. Joseph Luckey's 7th Cav, Newlin Twp. 1782 > 14 October 1784 removed from the Kennett MM. > He married (Elizabeth ??) in Boston by a non-Quaker (Baptist teacher) > after > the Revolutionary War. > 12 Sep (?1787?) at the Wilmington MM, Joseph Chambers & Ephraim Yarnell > to > investigate a complaint of fornication > 14 Nov 1787 Wilmington MM he was no longer considered a Quaker due to the > marriage. > > > > Joseph F. Bailey > www.baileywick.com <http://www.baileywick.com/> > SKYPE: BaileyWick > Messenger: JFBaileyWick > 1.408.867.7816 > > To unsubscribe from this list, please send the one word message, > unsubscribe, to > pa-old-chester-request@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Unfortunately, as with most things there is no giant book that contains all of anything, whether it be Rev. War Vets or MM records (wouldn't it be wonderful if there were?).....so, you'll have to search for EACH MM you're interested in. ....there was no Newlin MM, and for a listing of all Chester MMs, and their dates of inception, visit the Chester Co site and look under Quaker Info. You might want to check the lookup list and see what Quaker meeting lookups are offered, also located on the Chester site. You could also do a place search on the LDS online site....using Chester County Pa as your search subject. This will give you a list of EVERYTHING they have available on film....this includes many MM records. According to DESCENDANTS OF JOEL BAILY, by Gilbert Cope, (just a bit on each generation, in case you already have it all) Joel Baily and Ann Short (original emigrants) m 1687 Kennett mm Josiah Baily and Sarah Marsh , 1732-3 Sadsbury Joel Baily and Hannah Wickersham, m 1757 Gravenor Baily , son of Joel and Hannah Wickersham Baiy, took a certificate from New Garden to Concord, as an apprentice, in 1778, and brought one back in 1780. In 1780 he moved to Kennet, and in 1784, to Warrington, York Co. If Gravenor DID serve in the Military, he would have been disowned for that action and no longer considered a Friend or member of any MM before he married a non-Quaker.) So, if he remained a member of any MM till his marriage, I would discount the lore that he fought in the war. Sandra Where does one find these records from the Quaker Monthly Meetings? Say Kennett, Newlin, and Wilmington? Gravener Baily b.1757 Chester Co son of Joel Baily & Hannah Hayes Wickersham, Quakers Served as Pvt. in Capt. Joseph Luckey's 7th Cav, Newlin Twp. 1782 14 October 1784 removed from the Kennett MM. He married (Elizabeth ??) in Boston by a non-Quaker (Baptist teacher) after the Revolutionary War. 12 Sep (?1787?) at the Wilmington MM, Joseph Chambers & Ephraim Yarnell to investigate a complaint of fornication 14 Nov 1787 Wilmington MM he was no longer considered a Quaker due to the marriage. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.5/451 - Release Date: 9/19/2006

An effort to properly document my ancestor's data...Where does one find these records from the Quaker Monthly Meetings? Say Kennett, Newlin, and Wilmington? Gravener Baily b.1757 Chester Co son of Joel Baily & Hannah Hayes Wickersham, Quakers Information passed down as Family lore.... Probably b. in Newlin Twp.... Served as Pvt. in Capt. Joseph Luckey's 7th Cav, Newlin Twp. 1782 14 October 1784 removed from the Kennett MM. He married (Elizabeth ??) in Boston by a non-Quaker (Baptist teacher) after the Revolutionary War. 12 Sep (?1787?) at the Wilmington MM, Joseph Chambers & Ephraim Yarnell to investigate a complaint of fornication 14 Nov 1787 Wilmington MM he was no longer considered a Quaker due to the marriage. Joseph F. Bailey www.baileywick.com <http://www.baileywick.com/> SKYPE: BaileyWick Messenger: JFBaileyWick 1.408.867.7816

My source of info about the Ballinger family was from the book "Hilley Cousins: The Descendants of Thomas Hilley, Rev. Soldier, and His Wife Mary Walker Bond", 2 vols. with supplements, pub. 2002, compiled by Ann Clark Holloman and Nancy Brown Guest, a copy of which is on file at the Chester Co. Historical Society in West Chester. Book contains info on thousands of descendants of George Eavenson (1782-1843) and wife Mary Hilley, George having come to Elbert Co., GA from Chester Co., PA with his parents Eli Eavenson and Rachel Seal ca 1790. Book also contains info on Chester Co. ancestors of Eli and Rachel including Eavenson, Woodward, George, Williamson, Malin, Seal, Temple, Taylor, Gilpin, Haines and Smith. Info on the Ballinger-Harding ancestors of George W. Bush can be viewed at http://www.wargs.com/political/bush.html under his 8th Great grandparents, numbers 2000 and 2001, Henry Ballinger and Mary Harding, and his 9th Great grandparents, numbers 4002 and 4003, Thomas Harding and Eleanor. Chandler Eavenson Sautee-Nacoochee, GA In regard to your inquiry about Henry Ballinger (1660-1727) who came to America in 1678 on The Kent, I am a descendant and the info I have is that his Will was dated 8 Mar 1727, proved 10 Apr 1733, recorded in Burlington Co., NJ, Will Book 3, page 285. He was married to Mary Harding on 4 Sep 1684 in Burlington, NJ. She was the daughter of Thomas Harding and Eleanor Bagwell who were married 26 Feb 1662 at All Hallows, London Wall. Thomas Harding's Will named "Mary, wife of Henry Ballinger" and was dated 8 Feb 1707/8, recorded in Burlington Co., NJ, Book 1, page 220, proved 6 Dec 1708. These people are also ancestors of President George W. Bush. Chandler Eavenson Sautee-Nacoochee, GA -----Original Message----- From: pa-old-chester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pa-old-chester-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Violet Guy Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 6:31 PM To: Sandra Ferguson; PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PaOldC] BALLINGER Family Sandra: Henry Ballinger, the Immigrant, c> 1660 England, came to America on The Kent in 1878. . Does the Cope book have anything on this family? Thanks, Violet Moore Guy 09/20/2006 To unsubscribe from this list, please send the one word message, unsubscribe, to pa-old-chester-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To unsubscribe from this list, please send the one word message, unsubscribe, to pa-old-chester-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

-----Original Message----- From: Chandler Eavenson [mailto:yonahdells@alltel.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 7:17 PM To: Violet Guy Subject: RE: [PaOldC] BALLINGER Family In regard to your inquiry about Henry Ballinger (1660-1727) who came to America in 1678 on The Kent, I am a descendant and the info I have is that his Will was dated 8 Mar 1727, proved 10 Apr 1733, recorded in Burlington Co., NJ, Will Book 3, page 285. He was married to Mary Harding on 4 Sep 1684 in Burlington, NJ. She was the daughter of Thomas Harding and Eleanor Bagwell who were married 26 Feb 1662 at All Hallows, London Wall. Thomas Harding's Will named "Mary, wife of Henry Ballinger" and was dated 8 Feb 1707/8, recorded in Burlington Co., NJ, Book 1, page 220, proved 6 Dec 1708. These people are also ancestors of President George W. Bush. Chandler Eavenson Sautee-Nacoochee, GA -----Original Message----- From: pa-old-chester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pa-old-chester-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Violet Guy Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 6:31 PM To: Sandra Ferguson; PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PaOldC] BALLINGER Family Sandra: Henry Ballinger, the Immigrant, c> 1660 England, came to America on The Kent in 1878. . Does the Cope book have anything on this family? Thanks, Violet Moore Guy 09/20/2006 To unsubscribe from this list, please send the one word message, unsubscribe, to pa-old-chester-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sandra: Henry Ballinger, the Immigrant, c> 1660 England, came to America on The Kent in 1878. . Does the Cope book have anything on this family? Thanks, Violet Moore Guy 09/20/2006

Dear all, Thanks to some emails off the list, Sandra has pointed me in a few directions looking at the various Jansens (+ various spellings) and showing that there were several Claus Jansens. According to PA German books on the Claus Jansen of Skippack (wd. 1739, wp. 1745) was born in Mu(e)lheim in 1658. It has been raised by more than one people that he was probably too old to have all those children during his second marriage to Catherine Conrad. So in effect, I have thrown out the date of 1658 as unverifiable in favour to Sandra's date that Claus Jansen of Bucks Co. (a Swede who will was probated 1723). By unverifiable I mean that that date shows up in a variety of books, but no primary source (so far) Do anyone have a *verifiable* date on "Swede" Claus of Bucks Co being born in 1658? Maybe the ages are given in the 1693 census for the Swedes. Unfortunately I don't have access to it as I now live in South Africa. I think it is much more likely that someone confused the two men by the same name who lived very much in the same area. Michel PS, I am new to this list.