My Temple line is: 1. William Temple of Combs Lane, Wiltshire, England, married 18 Jan 1725 Chester Co., PA to Hannah Taylor, daughter of Joseph Taylor of Didcot, Berkshire, England and wife Elizabeth Haines of Harwell, Berkshire, married 16 Apr 1700. 2. Susannah Temple, born 8 Sep 1730, married William Seal, II 1748. William born 10 mo 17, 1726 Chester Co. Susannah died 1765 and William II remarried to Rachel Darlington who was the mother of the last two children named in his Will proved 30 Oct 1769.William Seal II was son of William I and Hannah Gilpin. 3. Rachel Seal, born 25 Apr 1760 Chester Co., married 30 May 1782 at Old Swedes Church, Wilmington, to Eli Eavenson (1761-1829), son of George Eavenson and Mary Williamson. Eli and Rachel moved to Elbert Co., GA ca 1790. 4. George Eavenson ((1782-1842) and wife Mary "Polly" Hilley (1781-1855), both died Elbert Co., GA. (These are my GGG Grandparents). Chandler Eavenson Sautee Nacoochee, GA [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jake and Megan Faulkner Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 1:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PaOldC] Thomas Temple b. 1725 d. 1808 Kenet (Pennsbury) I'm new to the list and I thought I would put in my line in case anyone out there is a relative :) William Temple b. 1690 d.1775 m. Hannah Taylor b. 1708 d. 1768 Thomas b. 1725 d.1808 m. Jane Brinton b. 1730 d.1799 Samuel b 1762 d. 1843 m. unknown (looking for this person) Joseph Temple b 1803 d. (unknown) m. Thirza Harvey b. 1808 d. 1877 Benjamin Temple b. 1834 d. 1890 m. Elizabeth Moore b. (unknown) d. (unknown) James G. Temple b.1882 d. (unknown) m. Ethel Yerkes (Verkeys?) b. 1888 d. (unknown) Charles E. Temple b. 1906 d 1996 m. Velma Jamison b. 1911 d. (unknown) I am especially interested in the earlier Temples of Chester Co, I know Thomas was a member of the assembly but what dates did he serve? I'm also looking for info on Thomas' son, Samuel and his wife. Their son Joseph moved to Maryland and then moved around a lot. I would like to know a marriage date for him and Thirza Harvey, both buried at Parkerville. Honestly I would just like to pick everyones brains for anything Temple related, I keep coming up with the same things and am hoping to expand my knowledge a bit. Thanks! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

from THE HISTORY OF CHESTER COUNTY PA, by Futhey and Cope William Temple came from England in 1714, and married 1-18-1725, Hannah, dau of Joseph and Elizabeth Taylor, b 7-7-1708, d 1-5-1768. He settled in Kennet, near his father in law and died around 1775. Their children were Thomas b 16-10-1725, m Jane Brinton; Hannah b 9-14-1727, m Isaac Miller; Susanna b 90801730 m William Seal; Wm b 2-3-1733; Elizabeth b 1-17-1735 m Benjamin Hutton; Lydia b 5-2-1737 m Caleb SEal; Sarah b 12-25-1740-41 m John Pyle; Alice b 9-17-1743 m Benjamin Jones; Benjamin b 12-3-1745-6 m Hannah Jones. Thomas Temple was a justice of the peace and a member of Assembly, a good penman and useful citizen. His children were Joseph, Wm, Thomas, Mary, Samuel, Caleb, Edward B., and Jane. He died 6-21-1808 and his wife, dau of Joseph and Mary Brinton, d 4-27-1799. Here are various family wills; SEAL, WILLIAM. Birmingham.October 5, 1769. October 30, 1769.Provides for wife Rachel. Real estate to be sold in 3 years to be equally divided among 9 children, viz., Hannah wife of Peter Baker, Joseph, William, Caleb, Benjamin, Thomas, Rachel, Abraham and Joshua, by my brother Caleb and brothers-in-law Thomas Temple and Abraham Darlington. Executors: Brother Caleb and friend James Bennett.Wit: Abraham Darlington, Jr., Wm. McFatrich. JONES, SARAH. Widow. East Bradford.January 13, 1775. June 10, 1775.To son Edward Jones £5. To sons John and Benjamin £15 each. To daughters Hannah wife of Thomas Temple and Lydia wife of Jas. Jefferis £5 each. To 3 youngest daughters Elizabeth Harlan, Cordilla Webb and Ann Chandler £50 each. Executor: Son Benjamin.Wit: John Jones, Betty Jones, Jas. Marshall. TEMPLE, THOMAS. Pennsbury.December 19, 1807: July 18, 1808.To son Caleb part of my plantation in Pennsbury, described, containing 111 acres, paying to his brother Samuel £100.To son Edward remainder of plantation, being two tracts, as described, one containing 8 acres 100 perches, the other 13 acres, 90 perches; he paying to his brother Joseph £5, to his brother Thomas £150, and to his sister Jane Bettle £50.To granddaughter Jane, daughter of son Thomas, articles of furniture.Son Edward to pay to Caleb £150 toward building him a house and barn on the land given him.Executors: Sons Caleb and Edward Temple.Wits.: James Bennett, Isaac Bennett, Jas. Bennett, Jr. (*no mention of son Samuel in Thomas' will....he must have been dead by then...and, no mention of children of Samuel...Thomas was born )-Thomas b 16-10-1725...you say your Samuel was born 1762...there's more than enough difference in these ages for there to have been a generation between Thomas and this Samuel.....what is your documentation for believing that your Samuel was the son of Thomas, and gr son of William?) TEMPLE, WILLIAM. Kennett.June 10, 1769. May 9, 1775.To sons-in-law Wm. Seal, Benj. Hutton, John Pyle and Benj. Jones 5 shillings each. To grandson Stephen Webb £40. To son-in-law Caleb Seal 2 lotts in Borough of Wilmington. To son Benjamin plantation whereon I now dwell in Kennett containing 234 acres, also 9 acres in East Bradford purchased of John Collier, also all furniture and stock. Remainder equally divided between sons Thomas and Benjamin and daughter Hannah, wife of Isaac Miller. Executors: Jas. Bennett and James Marshall. Wit: Jos. Martin, Robt. Woodward, Abrm. Ford. As far as the later names go, Samuel Temple left no will, but there are adm. papers...1869 Joseph Temple left will 1840 Benj and James G. left no wills or adm. papers These may all be ordered from Archives and Records. I have transcribed ,many tax records, and I'm sure you will be able to find Temples there. The lists are on the Chester County rootsweb site, and the pagenweb archives. I see that Thomas Temple served as a council member May 23, 1770....that's the only thing I see. Sandra ---- Original Message ----- ) > I'm new to the list and I thought I would put in my line in case anyone > out there is a relative :) > William Temple b. 1690 d.1775 > m. Hannah Taylor b. 1708 d. 1768 > > Thomas b. 1725 d.1808 > m. Jane Brinton b. 1730 d.1799 > > Samuel b 1762 d. 1843 > m. unknown > (looking for this person) > > Joseph Temple b 1803 d. (unknown) > m. Thirza Harvey b. 1808 d. 1877 > > Benjamin Temple b. 1834 d. 1890 > m. Elizabeth Moore b. (unknown) d. (unknown) > > James G. Temple b.1882 d. (unknown) > m. Ethel Yerkes (Verkeys?) b. 1888 d. (unknown) > > Charles E. Temple b. 1906 d 1996 > m. Velma Jamison b. 1911 d. (unknown) > > > I am especially interested in the earlier Temples of Chester Co, I know > Thomas was a member of the assembly but what dates did he serve? > I'm also looking for info on Thomas' son, Samuel and his wife. Their son > Joseph moved to Maryland and then moved around a lot. I would like to know > a marriage date for him and Thirza Harvey, both buried at Parkerville. > Honestly I would just like to pick everyones brains for anything Temple > related, I keep coming up with the same things and am hoping to expand my > knowledge a bit. > Thanks! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.25/2019 - Release Date: > 3/23/2009 6:51 PM > >

I guess we're sorta cousins #175 ALICE LOWNES (Alice,Sarah,George),b.2-16-1758;d.7-27-1841;m.12-5-1776,at Kennet Meeting,William Temple,b.Kennet (now Pennsbury),12-13-1753;son of Thomas Temple and Jane Brinton,of Pennsbury. Issue: 671 Benanuel,b.1758(?);d.1783-4. 672 Thomas,b.10-10-1779;m.Susan Battin.No issue known. 673 Mary,b.11-9-1782;d.unmarried. 674 William,said to have been lost at sea,unmarried. 675 Alice,b.about 1792;d.5-13-1878;m.John Davis. Alice Temple,of Birmingham,widow of William Temple,was married again 3-14-1799,at Birmingham Meeting,to John Pennock,of West Marlborough, widower,b.10-26-1754;d.5-6-1840;son of Levis Pennock and Ruth Marshall. Issue: 676 Marshall L,b.3-30-1800;d.10-22-1882;m.Rachel L Humes. 677 Ruth M,b.12-1-1802;m.12-11-1838,by John Taggart,Esq.,to Benjamin Pyle.Married 2nd,John Jewett.Left no issue. William Temple,son of Thomas and Susanna (Atherton) Temple,came from Wiltshire,England,in 1714,and m.1-18-1724-5,at Birmingham Meeting Hannah Taylor,b.7-7-1708;d.1-5-1768;dau.of Joseph and Elizabeth Taylor,of Kennet.They settled in Kennet (now Pennsbury) near her father,and had children Thomas,b.10-10-1725,m.Jane Brinton;Hannah,b.9-14-1727,m.Isaac Miller;Susanna,b.9-8-1730,m.William Seal;William,b.2-3-1733;Elizabeth,b. 1-27-1735,m.Benjamin Hutton;Lydia,b.5-2-1737,m.Caleb Seal;Sarah,b.12-25-1740-1,m.John Pyle;Alice,b.9-17-1743,m.Benjamin Jones;Benjamin,b.12-3-1745-6,m.Hannah Jones.The father died about 1775. William Temple m.3-16-1751,at Birmingham Meeting,Jane Brinton,b.10-14-1731;d.4-27-1799;dau.of Joseph and Mary (Peirce) Brinton,of Thornbury. They had children Joseph,William,Thomas,Mary,Samuel,Caleb,Edward B and Jane.Thomas,the father,was a justice of the peace and a member of Assembly,a good penman and useful citizen. Alice Temple received a certificate from Chester to Kennet Monthly Meeting 4-28-1777.She and her husband obtained one thence to Nottingham 1-15-1778,and back to Kennet,12-20-1778.A certificate was requested 8-14-1783,for them and their children Benanuel,Thomas and Mary,to Duck Creek,Del.,but this was dropped and one to Wilmington requested 4-15-1784,which was granted two months later,by which time the first child was deceased.Alice produced one to Kennet 11-13-1794,with four children from Phila.(Northern District),and took one to Concord dated 7-12-1798. After her second marriage she received one to Londongrove,dated 6-5-1799 Visit The George Smedley Homepage http://smedley.lewis.home.att.net -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jake and Megan Faulkner Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 1:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PaOldC] Thomas Temple b. 1725 d. 1808 Kenet (Pennsbury) I'm new to the list and I thought I would put in my line in case anyone out there is a relative :)

I'm new to the list and I thought I would put in my line in case anyone out there is a relative :) William Temple b. 1690 d.1775 m. Hannah Taylor b. 1708 d. 1768 Thomas b. 1725 d.1808 m. Jane Brinton b. 1730 d.1799 Samuel b 1762 d. 1843 m. unknown (looking for this person) Joseph Temple b 1803 d. (unknown) m. Thirza Harvey b. 1808 d. 1877 Benjamin Temple b. 1834 d. 1890 m. Elizabeth Moore b. (unknown) d. (unknown) James G. Temple b.1882 d. (unknown) m. Ethel Yerkes (Verkeys?) b. 1888 d. (unknown) Charles E. Temple b. 1906 d 1996 m. Velma Jamison b. 1911 d. (unknown) I am especially interested in the earlier Temples of Chester Co, I know Thomas was a member of the assembly but what dates did he serve? I'm also looking for info on Thomas' son, Samuel and his wife. Their son Joseph moved to Maryland and then moved around a lot. I would like to know a marriage date for him and Thirza Harvey, both buried at Parkerville. Honestly I would just like to pick everyones brains for anything Temple related, I keep coming up with the same things and am hoping to expand my knowledge a bit. Thanks!

You don't mention if you have ever searched the Federal census for Jacob...if born around 1845, he should be included, by name, in the 1850 census, and would be in the household of his parents. I have a CD of this census, but do NOT like the way it's presented or that you can't check for household members, so I never 'trust' what I find there....however, it showed no Jacob Marsh in Chester .....this CD covers Del, DC, Md, NJ and PA....the only Jacob Marshes (no ages given) were in Sullivan, Northampton, Monroe and Lycoming Cos, Pa, and one in Balt. Co, Md....that's it for all those states. .But, I wouldn't accept this as fact, and would suggest, if you haven't already done so, go through the Chester, Del and Lanc Cos census, to see if you can find him. If not, then his family, or he, must have moved to Chester later....be sure to try the 1860 and 1870 Census,, too. I also looked at Chester probate, and Jacob left no will or adm papers either through 1923.. Sandra " My GGGF, Jacob Marsh 1900C has his b: Jan 1845, with wife/Hanna (osborne) b: Feb 1840 B: Pa, farmer, having 4 child/4 living. 1910C has Hanna (WD.) living in Valley Twp., outside C'ville, w/unk party. (Jacob died 5-19-06) w/D.C. stating @ age 73 yrs) = b:1832 1880C Both living in Strasburg Twp., L.C.on S. Jackson St, off Main st. Jacob 38, stone mason, Hannah 35, children George 12, Emma 10, Amos 3, and Annie 2, who I directly descend from. Annie Rebecca Marsh b: 3-23-1877. 1870C has Jacob 34, Hannah30, George 4, living in Paradise Twp., L.C., Kinzers P.O. My Annie Rebecca Marsh went on to Marry Joseph Alonzo Young in Lancaster County on 5-24-1899 I have reviewed all Marsh posts on the CC & LC rootsweb, researched all Marsh's & March's in the Sadsbury area of CC & LC, as it was a border twp., and still cannot find the parents of Jacob."

My GGGF, Jacob Marsh 1900C has his b: Jan 1845, with wife/Hanna (osborne) b: Feb 1840 B: Pa, farmer, having 4 child/4 living. 1910C has Hanna (WD.) living in Valley Twp., outside C'ville, w/unk party. (Jacob died 5-19-06) w/D.C. stating @ age 73 yrs) = b:1832 1880C Both living in Strasburg Twp., L.C.on S. Jackson St, off Main st. Jacob 38, stone mason, Hannah 35, children George 12, Emma 10, Amos 3, and Annie 2, who I directly descend from. Annie Rebecca Marsh b: 3-23-1877. 1870C has Jacob 34, Hannah30, George 4, living in Paradise Twp., L.C., Kinzers P.O. My Annie Rebecca Marsh went on to Marry Joseph Alonzo Young in Lancaster County on 5-24-1899 I have reviewed all Marsh posts on the CC & LC rootsweb, researched all Marsh's & March's in the Sadsbury area of CC & LC, as it was a border twp., and still cannot find the parents of Jacob. Any ideas would greatly be appreciated. Ray Young **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)

Definition of a Widow: I will put in a little note here. Recently I read and I will try to recall from what, that when a woman felt her marriage was a "dead marriage" she called herself a widow, even though her husband was alive. She lived in dead marriage. Dottie **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)

I recently obtained a photocopy of the will of William Commons from the Chester County Archives, and I've scanned and transcribed it and put it online: http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.commons/99/mb.ashx (text) http://www.usgennet.org/usa/oh/county/guernsey/wills/commons_william.pdf (scans and text) The summary below contains one error. The second son of William's son Elisha is actually named Amos, not James. William spells it "ames", but there is no hint of a "J" in front of it, and his sister Ann's name isn't capitalized, either. Amos (clearly spelled) also appears in Elisha's will, which I'll post at a later date. (I showed both wills to a staff member at the Chester County Historical Society, who agreed, and noted this in their copy of “Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834”.) This also explains how one of Ann's sons came to be named Amos, a name that doesn't appear at all on her husband's side of the family. Scott On Monday, August 22, 2005 6:18 AM MT, Sandra Ferguson <[email protected]> wrote: >Wm Commons was included in the 1765 Chester County archives, and listed as >owning 100 acres in New London twp, along with 3 horses, 3 cows and 6 sheep. >He had no servants. . > The New Garden MM marriage records 1704-1799 contain several mentions >of various folks with the surname /Commons, but only one marriage.. >Robert Common, s. of WM and Sarah m Ruth Hayes, 1780 > I'm assuming this is his will, which I'll send in case you don't >have > >COMMONS, WILLIAM. New London.October 30, 1795. January 28, 1796.Provides for >wife Sarah. Plantation, etc. to be sold. To sons Robert, John, William and >Elisha £10 each. To son Joseph £30. Remainder of estate to Elisha's 5 >children by his first wife, William, Sarah, James, Ann and John, share and >share alike at 21.Executors: Isaac Jackson, Jr., Samuel Spencer.Letters to >Spencer, Jackson renouncing.Wit: Robert Correy, John McKee. > > Sandra >" My Commons were descendants of William Commons and Sarah Scarlett, both >born in Ireland and arriving in America in 1750 with two sons (three more >sons were born later). They settled in New London Twp. (adjacent to London >Grove Twp.), and were members of the New Garden Quaker meeting. I don't know >all of his descendants, particularly beyond grandchildren, so Amos could >easily be a descendant."

I was looking through some papers from Juniata County, PA and ran across a Mendenhall.  I have no connection to this family, but have seen it many times on the Chester Co. list.  The agreement is with a resident of Perrysville (now called Port Royal, Juniata Co, PA).  Articles of agreement made this 10th day of Dec. 1852 between John Kepner of the Borough of Perrysville of the first part and Washington B. Mendenhall of Chester County Penna as follows to Wit.  The said John Kepner hereby agrees to and with the said Washington B. Mendenhall to sell unto him a lot of the ordinary dimensions of Lots in the Borough of Perrysville being the first corner lot directly opposite the Church Lot on Middle Street for which the said Washington B. Mendenhall agrees to pay the said John Kepner One hundred dollars Fifty dollars in hand and fifty dollars on the first day of April next being April 1st 1853.  Said Kepner to furnish a clear title recorded.  Witness Our hands and seals the day and year first above written. Attest G.W. Jacobs W.B. Mendenhall John Kepner

You're right, bigamy wasn't officially condoned. What was going on wasn't properly bigamy; it was just that people weren't observing the legal formalities. I've heard of people who were caught serving jail time, often because teh aggrieved first spouse complained. But most often, one way or another, people got away with it. We ahve discussions about this on the Black Sheep list alot. Formally it's bigamy, so it's an automatic black sheep qualifier. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [PaOldC] divorce Vs bigamy > It was not all that uncommon for self-divorce, when they would just end > it > with out courts due largely , I suppose to lack of law in the frontier > areas, > However if proven or accused of bigamy /polygamy was still even in those > days > publicly unacceptable, due our European culture and English law, which > spawned our law system. I would suspect though that polygamy was not > tolerated in > the religious circles at all, due there religious beliefs & customs, > where > that the churches were more prevalent than the common law. Divorce on the > other hand was nothing near as common as today or even 100 years ago, and > not > easy to obtain for a woman. Like wise as to the old English law, a man > pretty > much owned his wife and could do with her for the most part as he seen > fit. > And due to the laws of land ownership & economic climate of the day & > social > perception & church teachings, few sought for divorce. An unmarried woman > in > the 1800's and prior stood to face a very difficult life with odds > stacked > very heavy against her. Jered > **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 > or > less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It was not all that uncommon for self-divorce, when they would just end it with out courts due largely , I suppose to lack of law in the frontier areas, However if proven or accused of bigamy /polygamy was still even in those days publicly unacceptable, due our European culture and English law, which spawned our law system. I would suspect though that polygamy was not tolerated in the religious circles at all, due there religious beliefs & customs, where that the churches were more prevalent than the common law. Divorce on the other hand was nothing near as common as today or even 100 years ago, and not easy to obtain for a woman. Like wise as to the old English law, a man pretty much owned his wife and could do with her for the most part as he seen fit. And due to the laws of land ownership & economic climate of the day & social perception & church teachings, few sought for divorce. An unmarried woman in the 1800's and prior stood to face a very difficult life with odds stacked very heavy against her. Jered **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)

In my files: Joseph Pennock, son of John & Elenor Pusey Pennock was b 1779 - no record of his marriage. This from the book "The Pennock's of Primitive Hall" by George Valentine Massey, pg. 79 His siblings were: John, Nathaniel, James & William: same source. Joseph Pennock, son of William & Lydia Jackson Pennock is also recorded in the above source with no dob, pg. 78. His siblings were: Caleb, Susan, Hannah, Horace, Louisa Caroline, Henry Lysle and Charles E. Joseph Pennock, son of Joseph & Mary Pusey Pennock b 1788 is likewise recorded in the above source, pg. 77 with no shown spouse. His siblings: John, Pusey, Jacob, Solomon, Sarah, Mary, Eleanor, Enoch, Israel, William, Nathaniel & George. Joseph Pennock b 13 12mo 1791 has his birth recorded in the records of the Londongrove M.M., Chester, PA. He is the son of John & 1st wife, Rachel Starr Pennock. His siblings: Sarah, Hannah, Esther, Thomas, Rachel, John, Lydia, Sarah and Lee, all by Rachel Starr. Joseph Pennock, married to Mary Pusey, is the father of Joseph b 1788 and the son of Nathaniel & Sarah Bourne Pennock. Sarah Bourne is the 3rd wife of of Nathaniel. His first wife was Jane Pusey by whom I show no children. His second wife was Ann Bennett and by Ann he had John Pennock b 8 11mo 1747/8 who was married to Elenor Pusey and the father of a Joseph b 1789. Still using the source: "The Pennock's of Primitive Hall," pg. 77 Incorporating the other Joseph referenced by George Smedley this morning [good grief there were a lot of Joseph Pennocks!]: The Joseph Pennock who married Mary Levis, daughter of Samuel & Elizabeth Clator Levis: Joseph b 18 11mo 1677 Clanmell, Ireland d 23 3mo 1771 W. Marlboro, Chester, PA m 1705 Mary Levis. This Joseph appears in the "HIstory of Chester Co.," "The Mendenhall, A Genealogy," Descendants of Robert and Hannah Hickman Way of Chester, PA", "The Pennocks of Primitive Hall" pg.1, 25 This couple also had a Joseph: Joseph, son of Joseph & Mary Levis Pennock was b 15 9mo 1715 d 22 1mo 1800 and m 18 3mo 1743 Sarah Taylor by whom he had 10 children. He m second Phebe Mendenhall by whom I show no children. Phebe Had first been married to Adam Kirk [my line]. Joseph, Sarah & Phebe's records are found in the MM of New Garden & Kennett meetings, Chester, PA. I must also add that Joseph & Sarah Taylor Pennock had a son, Joseph, b 7 6mo 1750 who married Phebe Kirk b 28 7mo 1751 who was the daughter of Adam & Phebe Mendenhall Kirk...Phebe Mendenhall Kirk Pennock thereby being mother to Phebe and step-mother to Phebe's husband, Joseph Pennock. I don't know if any of this will help or just further muddy the waters...if you do find the correct spouses for some of those Joseph's mentioned above, I would love to know who they are. I have no firm foundation for adding any spouse names to most of them! Thanks & Happy St. Patty's day in the name of these Irish ancestors! ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: "Pa OldChester" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 12:31 AM Subject: [PaOldC] Joseph PENNOCK (four of them born circa 1779-1791) > > > Looking for information (births, marriages, children, and deaths) from > Quaker records (or copies from the Pennock surname file at CCHS) regarding > these four Chester/Lancaster/Delaware County Joseph Pennocks > > > > Joseph Pennock (b. 1-10-1779?), son of John Pennock and Elenor Pusey > > Joseph Pennock (b. after 1785), son of William Pennock and Lydia Jackson > > Joseph Pennock (b. 2-19-1788?), son of Joseph Pennock and Mary Pusey > > Joseph Pennock (b. about 1791), son of John Pennock and Rachel Starr > > > > I've got a jumble of conflicting data about a couple of these Joseph > Pennocks and trying to undo a bad conclusion I've made somewhere... > > Marriages to Ann Craig, Rebecca Scarlett, Mary Ingram and Mary Pusey and I > think I've attached at least one of these spouses to the wrong Joseph or > I've missed some marriages. Any help would be appreciated. > > > Thanks, > > John > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2005 - Release Date: 03/16/09 19:01:00

Some of them were religiously devout, Sandra. But actually it has emerged on some of my other lists that it was common for people to run off and remarry. Probably less common in Chester County because people were more religious, and families were established in the area, everyone knew everyone, and it was alot harder to get away with it. More common in cities and the midwest to west. My great grandfather just walked into the JP with his new bride and said he was divorced. People didn't have to present proof much of anywhere. This was in Boston. Can you imagine him trying that in London Britain township and getting away with it? Probably happened more often in Philadelphia. ;) Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Ferguson" <[email protected]> To: "Dora Smith" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 5:21 AM Subject: divorce Vs bigamy >I don't really believe that bigamy was a common occurrence at any time in >our history.......regardless of how 'hard' it was to get a divorce......our >ancestors, in the main, were heavily influenced by their religious beliefs >and more law abiding that folks are today. Most lived an insular life, >well known by their neighbors and friends, and would certainly not have >risked the wrath of their church or meeting, or arrest. These were times >when people were publicly chastised for fornication......bigamy was >certainly a worse 'sin' than that, I'd think. Of course, someone could, >technically, pull up stakes and move to an area where they were completely >unknown, and profess oneself a widow, but I really don't think it would >have been a common occurrence. > > Sandra > >> Yes, it was common for one spouse to run off, and even remarry without >> benefit of divorce, as divorce was difficult to get and people didn't >> have >> the resources or want to be bothered. >

Here's another Samuel Levis,b.7-30-1649,son of Christopher and Mary Levis of Harby in the county of Leicester,m.3-4-1680,Elizabeth Clator,of Nottingham,and came to Pennsylvania in 1684;settling in Springfield township,where he d.about 1734. The children of Samuel and Elizabeth Levis were Samuel,b.12-8-1680,m. Hannah Stretch of Phila.;Alice,b.8-7-1682;Mary,b.8-9-1685,m.Joseph Pennock,ancestor of the Pennocks of Chester County;William,b.7-8-1688;d. 2-11-1747;Elizabeth,b.10-20-1690;d.10-10-1777,m.William Shipley; Christopher,b.10-27-1692;d.2-3-1694;Sarah,b.6-31-1694,d.10-26-1723,m. George Maris. William Levis settled in Kennet about 1718,where he m.10-14-1720, Elizabeth Reed and had children,Elizabeth,b.8-30-1721,Samuel,b.9-18-1723,m.Elizabeth Gregg;William,b.12-3-1725-6,m.Jane Ogden and Martha Marshall;Sarah,b.6-31-1728;Mary,b.2-10-1732;Lydia,b.6-16-1734,m.John Lamborn.Some mention of the father may be found in a Collection of Memorials published by Phila.Yearly Meeting,1787. Visit The George Smedley Homepage http://smedley.lewis.home.att.net -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 12:32 AM To: Pa OldChester Subject: [PaOldC] Joseph PENNOCK (four of them born circa 1779-1791) Looking for information (births, marriages, children, and deaths) from Quaker records (or copies from the Pennock surname file at CCHS) regarding these four Chester/Lancaster/Delaware County Joseph Pennocks Joseph Pennock (b. 1-10-1779?), son of John Pennock and Elenor Pusey Joseph Pennock (b. after 1785), son of William Pennock and Lydia Jackson Joseph Pennock (b. 2-19-1788?), son of Joseph Pennock and Mary Pusey Joseph Pennock (b. about 1791), son of John Pennock and Rachel Starr I've got a jumble of conflicting data about a couple of these Joseph Pennocks and trying to undo a bad conclusion I've made somewhere... Marriages to Ann Craig, Rebecca Scarlett, Mary Ingram and Mary Pusey and I think I've attached at least one of these spouses to the wrong Joseph or I've missed some marriages.  Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, John ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't really believe that bigamy was a common occurrence at any time in our history.......regardless of how 'hard' it was to get a divorce......our ancestors, in the main, were heavily influenced by their religious beliefs and more law abiding that folks are today. Most lived an insular life, well known by their neighbors and friends, and would certainly not have risked the wrath of their church or meeting, or arrest. These were times when people were publicly chastised for fornication......bigamy was certainly a worse 'sin' than that, I'd think. Of course, someone could, technically, pull up stakes and move to an area where they were completely unknown, and profess oneself a widow, but I really don't think it would have been a common occurrence. Sandra > Yes, it was common for one spouse to run off, and even remarry without > benefit of divorce, as divorce was difficult to get and people didn't have > the resources or want to be bothered.

Looking for information (births, marriages, children, and deaths) from Quaker records (or copies from the Pennock surname file at CCHS) regarding these four Chester/Lancaster/Delaware County Joseph Pennocks Joseph Pennock (b. 1-10-1779?), son of John Pennock and Elenor Pusey Joseph Pennock (b. after 1785), son of William Pennock and Lydia Jackson Joseph Pennock (b. 2-19-1788?), son of Joseph Pennock and Mary Pusey Joseph Pennock (b. about 1791), son of John Pennock and Rachel Starr I've got a jumble of conflicting data about a couple of these Joseph Pennocks and trying to undo a bad conclusion I've made somewhere... Marriages to Ann Craig, Rebecca Scarlett, Mary Ingram and Mary Pusey and I think I've attached at least one of these spouses to the wrong Joseph or I've missed some marriages.  Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, John

Uh, yes, see my other post a day or two ago. Mail is crossing like crazy. Though to be sure my last answer was posted after you wrote this one, despite the fact that I had never opened this e-mail. Yahoo is screwing up like crazy, and I am getting mail days late and very out of order. Yes, it was common for one spouse to run off, and even remarry without benefit of divorce, as divorce was difficult to get and people didn't have the resources or want to be bothered. My great grandmother was consistently described as a widow, though her husband was living and remarried. She moved to another town and said she was a widow. It was in the city directories, and the census. By the time she died, she really was a widow. She died in a nuthouse. Now, she'd always insisted that her parents were ENGLISH, and the Northampton State Hospital staff reinvented her name as French-Canadian. ;) I don't think they believed a word she said about anything. Don't recall offhand if her death certificate said she was a widow, or not. My grandfather didn't actually know what had happened to his father, though they were in touch shortly before the man died. Neither of them said a word about this to the ex-wife. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 3:13 PM Subject: [PaOldC] Definition of "widow" >I believe I read on these boards a while ago that the term "widow" was used > for other than a woman who's husband was dead. My reason for asking is my > great grandmother, Emma Cox Miller, appears in the 1888-89 Chester City > Directory > as "widow of E.P.", yet I know my great grandfather, Ellis Pusey Miller > was > alive in November of 1890. They were in the middle of a divorce in > 1888/89 > and I wondered if this was a term that a woman would use if she was > separated > or felt she was "deserted" by her husband. > > Any information would be really appreciated. Thanks Joan > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 > easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220439616x1201372437/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID > %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Scottie, I'm afraid that you've not given us specific enough information to know if either of you is descended from the Quaker Sharpless family of southestern Chester County. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scottie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 11:48 AM Subject: [PaOldC] Sharpless Hello to any that are connected to the Sharpless family...I have a good friend with the last name of Sharpless...she and I go to the same church here in Punta Gorda, Florida. She told me she is a descendant of John Sharpless and there are Smedleys in her family. Don't know if she is into research but know she knows a lot about her ancestors. We kid around about possibly being "cousins" Scottie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

from a lookup in Concord MM marriages1679-1808, by Bjorkman; Edith Thatcher, d of Wm Thatcher and Sarah his wife, of Thornbury, m Jesse Green of Birmingham twp.....14 1m 1789. (be aware that the name Thatcher, is also spelled Thacther in these records, so something to keep in mind when researching the name) S.

Please remember...there are 3 aspects necessary for each and every query. first, a full name, both given and surname ...second, some sort of geographic location ... third, some kind of date. All genealogical resources only cover certain dates, and without knowing when, it's impossible to know WHERE to look. Even an approximate date is fine...there's no need for folks to be typing in a bunch of information on folks of the `19th century, when the ones you're interested in are from an earlier.....or later......century. Sandra "Hello to any that are connected to the Sharpless family...I have a good friend with the last name of Sharpless...she and I go to the same church here in Punta Gorda, Florida. She told me she is a descendant of John Sharpless and there are Smedleys in her family. Don't know if she is into research but know she knows a lot about her ancestors.