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    1. Re: [PaOldC] German naming patterns [was: naming order]
    2. Sandra Ferguson
    3. My Scottish family of Smiths were members of the Seceder Presbyterian congregations, and they didn't have sponsors or godparents....at least they aren't mentioned in the records. I have the records a lot of Lutheran and German Reformed churches in York Co... ALL those I see have both a male and a female sponsor. In some instances the child has the given name of the same sex sponsor , but certainly not always....there are plenty as I scan down the pages where the child doesn't have the name of either. So, from what I see I'd think that your northern Kraichgau, Baden (between Mosbach & Sinsheim)) naming is not common for other areas. I think this all illustrates that naming patterns aren't set in stone, and many folk did not follow them at all, so while we can 'consider' the names of children as possible family names, we mustn't take it as fact. S. "A child could always have been named for his/her godparents (whether related or just friends of the family). If you have access to church records which record the godparents, you can check this. It certainly would explain the Alexander Duncan Smith example. And of course, there's always the prospective inheritance aspect of it all. > > I have always heard that there was a naming pattern used by the Germans, > but I've never been able to find evidence of it. However, I have found > evidence that the child was named for the godparents. Or perhaps the > particular godparents were chosen because of their names? At any rate, in > a survey of approximately 80 years of church records from Trinity Lutheran > in Lancaster, PA, it is almost invariable that the child's middle (use > name) name is the use name of the godparent/sponsor of the same gender. > There are two godparents/sponsors and are almost always a married couple. > I found a few instances where the godparents were unmarried people and > then they were usually a couple about to get married or one or another of > the grandparents and single uncles/aunts, etc. The only exceptions to > this naming pattern appear to have been when the parents themselves stood > as the godparents/sponsors, or occasionally where the new child was named > for recently deceased child of the same g! > ender. > > Given that pattern held for 80 years in PA and only really disappeared > when the Lancaster records (and presumably daily business in general) > switched to English, I expected the same pattern to have come from Germany > and to be evident there. I was wrong, at least a little bit. I've found > a pattern in my area of interest in the northern Kraichgau, Baden (between > Mosbach & Sinsheim). It is very different. The child usually has two > sponsors, but they are the same gender as the child and the child's > combined name is the combined use names of the two sponsors. Thus, in > 1725 Johann Georg Christoph Stech's name comes from Johann Christoph > Winterbauer and Georg Buntz. I don't know if this custom was typically > Germanic or if it was localized to my area of the Kraichgau and I'm not > sure I'll ever find out as I only have connections to that one small area > of Baden.

    04/06/2009 09:14:35
    1. [PaOldC] Scotch-Irish/Scots-Irish
    2. marsha moses
    3. However, you will find that the WONDERFUL mail list that deals with the subject calls itself the Scotch-Irish mail list. Don't go on there and try to change it....read in the archives for the reason and all of the arguments about this subject that have been held on the list. Bringing it up used to cause immediate removal from the mail list back in the days when there were many arguments on the list. So I continue to use the traditional Scotch-Irish designation. Marsha in WV On Apr 6, 2009, at 1:51 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Nothing to do with naming order, but a Scottish friend reminded me: > Scotch is a drink, Scottish is the proper term to refer to those > from or descended from folks from Scotland. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: George Smedley <[email protected]> > To: 'Sandra Ferguson' <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected] > Sent: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:05 pm > Subject: Re: [PaOldC] naming order > > > > These naming conventions may only be true foe Scotch and Irish > > > Visit The George Smedley Homepage > http://smedley.lewis.home.att.net > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sandra > Ferguson > Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 12:17 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PaOldC] naming order > > Use this only as a hint, a clue, rather than fact. Personally, > none of my > > families have ever followed any particular naming order, and many > named > children for adult friends rather than family members.... > > > Sandra > > > Does someone have information on the naming order of children born > in the > mid 1800'S? Were they still using the naming order at that time? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of > the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

    04/06/2009 08:09:09
    1. Re: [PaOldC] naming order
    2. Nothing to do with naming order, but a Scottish friend reminded me: Scotch is a drink, Scottish is the proper term to refer to those from or descended from folks from Scotland. -----Original Message----- From: George Smedley <[email protected]> To: 'Sandra Ferguson' <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:05 pm Subject: Re: [PaOldC] naming order These naming conventions may only be true foe Scotch and Irish Visit The George Smedley Homepage http://smedley.lewis.home.att.net -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sandra Ferguson Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 12:17 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [PaOldC] naming order Use this only as a hint, a clue, rather than fact. Personally, none of my families have ever followed any particular naming order, and many named children for adult friends rather than family members.... Sandra Does someone have information on the naming order of children born in the mid 1800'S? Were they still using the naming order at that time? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/06/2009 07:51:17
    1. Re: [PaOldC] naming order
    2. Sandra Ferguson
    3. My Scottish family named after family members, hit and miss, not using any pattern, plus naming for family friends featured prominently....this included both given and surname...for example Alexander Duncan Smith, named for Alexander Duncan, member of their congregation and, I assume, a friend....also, Andrew Finley Smith...then there is the 'best' of all - Ferdinand Spangler Smith.....go figure! S. These naming conventions may only be true foe Scotch and Irish -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sandra Ferguson Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 12:17 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [PaOldC] naming order Use this only as a hint, a clue, rather than fact. Personally, none of my families have ever followed any particular naming order, and many named children for adult friends rather than family members.... Sandra Does someone have information on the naming order of children born in the mid 1800'S? Were they still using the naming order at that time? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.43/2043 - Release Date: 4/6/2009 6:22 AM

    04/06/2009 07:22:20
    1. Re: [PaOldC] naming order
    2. George Smedley
    3. These naming conventions may only be true foe Scotch and Irish Visit The George Smedley Homepage http://smedley.lewis.home.att.net -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sandra Ferguson Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 12:17 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [PaOldC] naming order Use this only as a hint, a clue, rather than fact. Personally, none of my families have ever followed any particular naming order, and many named children for adult friends rather than family members.... Sandra Does someone have information on the naming order of children born in the mid 1800'S? Were they still using the naming order at that time? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/06/2009 07:05:10
    1. Re: [PaOldC] naming order
    2. Sandra Ferguson
    3. Use this only as a hint, a clue, rather than fact. Personally, none of my families have ever followed any particular naming order, and many named children for adult friends rather than family members.... Sandra Does someone have information on the naming order of children born in the mid 1800'S? Were they still using the naming order at that time?

    04/06/2009 06:17:13
    1. Re: [PaOldC] naming order
    2. Dee Thompson
    3. I think this is what you want. * The first son was named after the father's father. * The second son was named after the mother's father. * The third son was named after the father. * The fourth son was named after the father’s eldest brother. * The first daughter was named after the mother's mother. * The second daughter was named after the father's mother. * The third daughter was named after the mother. * The fourth daughter was named after the mother's eldest sister, always.  The fifth daughter was named after the mother’s oldest sister or the father’s oldest sister.  * 2nd wife's oldest daughter named after the first wife, using her full name. * Children after those were usually named after a favorite relative with some possible exceptions: If a child died in infancy, a later child might be given that name. * When a newly ordained minister baptized his first child: If a boy, he would be named for the minister; If a girl, she would receive his surname as her middle name; * If a child were fostered, usually because of being orphaned, he may be named for the foster parent  It was also common to use the mother’s maiden name as a child’s middle name. Dee Thompson, Atlanta All lookup requests will be permanently archived on the Bladen County Genweb site. For a detailed bibliography on the reference sources used for lookups refer to this Link: http://www.ncgenweb.us/bladen/lookups.htm Please search the Bladen County List Archives before requesting a lookup: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/usa/NC/bladen.htm l -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 11:39 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [PaOldC] naming order Does someone have information on the naming order of children born in the mid 1800'S? Were they still using the naming order at that time? Jacqui in FL **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/06/2009 05:52:09
    1. [PaOldC] naming order
    2. Does someone have information on the naming order of children born in the mid 1800'S? Were they still using the naming order at that time? Jacqui in FL **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)

    04/06/2009 05:38:58
    1. Re: [PaOldC] German naming patterns [was: naming order]
    2. Ginni Morgan
    3. A child could always have been named for his/her godparents (whether related or just friends of the family). If you have access to church records which record the godparents, you can check this. It certainly would explain the Alexander Duncan Smith example. And of course, there's always the prospective inheritance aspect of it all. I have always heard that there was a naming pattern used by the Germans, but I've never been able to find evidence of it. However, I have found evidence that the child was named for the godparents. Or perhaps the particular godparents were chosen because of their names? At any rate, in a survey of approximately 80 years of church records from Trinity Lutheran in Lancaster, PA, it is almost invariable that the child's middle (use name) name is the use name of the godparent/sponsor of the same gender. There are two godparents/sponsors and are almost always a married couple. I found a few instances where the godparents were unmarried people and then they were usually a couple about to get married or one or another of the grandparents and single uncles/aunts, etc. The only exceptions to this naming pattern appear to have been when the parents themselves stood as the godparents/sponsors, or occasionally where the new child was named for recently deceased child of the same g! ender. Given that pattern held for 80 years in PA and only really disappeared when the Lancaster records (and presumably daily business in general) switched to English, I expected the same pattern to have come from Germany and to be evident there. I was wrong, at least a little bit. I've found a pattern in my area of interest in the northern Kraichgau, Baden (between Mosbach & Sinsheim). It is very different. The child usually has two sponsors, but they are the same gender as the child and the child's combined name is the combined use names of the two sponsors. Thus, in 1725 Johann Georg Christoph Stech's name comes from Johann Christoph Winterbauer and Georg Buntz. I don't know if this custom was typically Germanic or if it was localized to my area of the Kraichgau and I'm not sure I'll ever find out as I only have connections to that one small area of Baden. I would appreciate additional information on this point if anyone has it. Ginni Morgan >>> Sandra Ferguson <[email protected]> 4/6/09 10:22 AM >>> My Scottish family named after family members, hit and miss, not using any pattern, plus naming for family friends featured prominently....this included both given and surname...for example Alexander Duncan Smith, named for Alexander Duncan, member of their congregation and, I assume, a friend....also, Andrew Finley Smith...then there is the 'best' of all - Ferdinand Spangler Smith.....go figure! S. These naming conventions may only be true foe Scotch and Irish -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sandra Ferguson Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 12:17 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [PaOldC] naming order Use this only as a hint, a clue, rather than fact. Personally, none of my families have ever followed any particular naming order, and many named children for adult friends rather than family members.... Sandra Does someone have information on the naming order of children born in the mid 1800'S? Were they still using the naming order at that time? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.43/2043 - Release Date: 4/6/2009 6:22 AM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication.

    04/06/2009 05:15:16
    1. Re: [PaOldC] Wiley, Joseph and family
    2. George Smedley
    3. Abigail Lightfoot,m.1715,in Ireland,Joseph Wiley,and came to Pa.with her father. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sandra Ferguson Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 5:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PaOldC] Wiley, Joseph and family from a lookup in records of New Garden Meeting; Wiley, Joseph and his wife, Abigail and their children; Sarah b 1716-11-6; Ann b 1718.9.6; Mary b 17??.3.28 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/05/2009 11:49:33
    1. [PaOldC] Wiley, Joseph and family
    2. Sandra Ferguson
    3. from a lookup in records of New Garden Meeting; Wiley, Joseph and his wife, Abigail and their children; Sarah b 1716-11-6; Ann b 1718.9.6; Mary b 17??.3.28

    04/05/2009 11:01:19
    1. [PaOldC] chester & del co cemetery submissions
    2. Sandra Ferguson
    3. http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/chester/cemeteries/newlondonp.txt http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/chester/cemeteries/stmaryswestgrove.txt http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/cumberland/cemeteries/plainfield-luth-tp.txt http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/delaware/cemeteries/lawncroft.txt http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/delaware/cemeteries/mtsharon.txt http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/delaware/obits/m/mccrossan-d.txt http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/delaware/obits/m/mccrossan-e.txt http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/delaware/obits/m/mccrossan-jd.txt http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/delaware/obits/m/mccrossin-fa.txt http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/delaware/obits/m/mccrossin-jf.txt http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/delaware/obits/m/mccrossin-mj.txt http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/delaware/obits/m/mccrossin-mj1.txt

    04/05/2009 01:45:11
    1. [PaOldC] Pinkerton
    2. George Smedley
    3. Quite a family.10 children,29 grandchildren,9 greatgrandchildren as of 1898. Does anyone know if these Pinkertons are related to the one who started the Pinkerton Detecives? #2454 REBECCA M GREEN (James,Robert,Jane,Sarah,George),b.Edgmont,11-27-1822;m.West Chester,Pa.,William Pinkerton,b.Marcus Hook,11-28-1814;son of John Pinkerton and Sarah Mace,of Village Green.They settled in Edgmont Twp.,where they have lived ever since,except two or three years in Kingsessing (now Paschallville),Phila.He is a shoemaker by trade but has farmed most of the time.Methodists.P.O.Gradyville,Pa. Issue: 5919 William Henry,b.3-12-1842;d.3-18-1842. 5920 John Wesley,b.6-4-1843;m.11-27-1861,Mary Pyle. 5921 James Henry,b.4-27-1845;m.July 4,?,Lizzie Davis. 5922 Mary Jane,b.3-10-1848;m.Calvin Jones.Address,Media Pa. No response. 5923 Hannah Yarnall,b.3-8-1851;d.11-11-1856. 5924 William Alfred Smedley,b.12-23-1853;m.3-19-1873,Sallie J W Lamborn.2nd m.2-27-1878,Mahala Eachus. 5925 Eli Yarnall,b.4-27-1857;d.1-4-1866. 5926 Samuel Smedley,b.10-31-1859;m.7-15-1886,Anna Smedley Baker. 5927 Theodosia Morgan,b.10-17-1862;d.1-2-1866. 5928 Casper Pennock,b.9-16-1864;d.11-13-1866. #5920 John Wesley Pinkerton (Rebecca,James,Robert,Jane,Sarah,George), b.6-4-1843;m.Crozerville,11-27-1861,Mary Pyle,b.Ivy Mills,7-30-1845;dau. of William Pyle and Susan L Bowers,of Glen Mills.He served three years and 3 months in the Civil War;is a farmer in Edgmont Twp.P.O.Thornbury, Pa. Issue: 5920A Mary Laura,b.Glen Mills,2-20-1865;see below. 5920B Carrie S,b.Middletown,9-9-1867;see below. 5920C William E,b.same,5-17-1870;d.by a railroad accident at Glen Mills,8-31-1890. 5920D Maud E,b.West Chester,3-9-1873;see below. 5920E Florence E,b.Aston,11-19-1875;unmarried. 5920F John W,b.Westtown,7-17-1878. 5920G Charles C,b.Marple,11-12-1882. 5920H Bessie S,b.Glen Mills,7-6-1885. 5920I Katie J,b.same,11-29-1888. Mary Laura Pinkerton,m.West Chester,5-3-1882,Levi W Devoe,b.Wallace Twp.,7-30-1859;son of William M Devoe and Sarah Jane Roxborough,the latter now at Glen Mills with her son. Issue: Mary E,b.12-17-1882;m.Samuel Heaps,Thornbury,Chester Co. Katie J,b.7-2-1890. Wilmina,b.2-22-1893. Levi J,b.4-2-1898. Carrie S Pinkerton,m.Frank Winans.No record. Maud E Pinkerton,m.Camden,N.J.,7-4-1892,Thomas Lee,b.Snyder Co.,Pa. 7-29-1872;son of Robert Lee and Mary Ann Ware,the latter now of Cawood, Mo.Residence,Glen Mills,Pa. Issue: Thomas E,b.Middletown,9-18-1893. Clara E,b.Thornbury,2-21-1895. Edna,b.12-31-1896. John E,b.11-13-1898. #5921 James Henry Pinkerton (Rebecca,James,Robert,Jane,Sarah,George) b.Edgmont,4-27-1845;m.Media,July 4,?,Lizzie Davis,b.Edgmont;d.Gradyville 5-11-1882;buried Cumberland Cemetery.2nd m.Birmingham,12-23-1887,Clara Kesst,b.Westtown,10-25-1866.P.O.Gradyville,Pa. Issue by 1st: 5921A Ida M. 5921B Edgar J,m.Maggie Miles and has Irena and Harvey. 5921C A Birdella,m.Frank Thomas,White Horse,Pa.and has Helen. 5921D Lizzie D. These all born in Edgmont. Issue by 2nd wife. 5921E Charles K,b.Birmingham,9-30-1888. 5921F Clara P,b.Westtown,10-25-1890. 5921G Iva S,b.same,10-19-1893. 5921H Harry I,b.Edgmont,4-12-1895. 5921I Alfred D,b.Gradyville,7-19-1898. #5924 William Alfred Smedley Pinkerton (Rebecca,James,Robert,Jane,Sarah, George),b.12-23-1853;m.3-19-1873,Sallie J W Lamborn,b.12-13-1851;d.8-14-1874;dau.of John Lamborn and Ann Jane Nethery,of Woodland,Del.2nd m. West Chester,Pa.,2-27-1878,Mahala Eachus (#5866),b.Thornbury,Del.Co.,1-15-1855;dau.of Homer Eachus and Lydia Baker,of Westtown.He is a carpenter by trade but now farming;settled in Westtown,at James's Pottery,two years,in Edgmont ten months,and in Goshen since Jan.1881. P.O.Cloud,Pa. Issue: 5924A Sallie Lamborn,b.Gradyville,8-9-1874. 5924B Anna R,b.5-14-1879. 5924C L Virginia,b.2-17-1882. 5924D Warren E,b.2-14-1884;d.10-10-1884. 5924E A Allan,b.3-17-1886. 5924F Alice M,b.9-8-1892. Sallie L,m.Phila.,9-26-1895,Albert Lancaster,b.England,2-18-1869;son of Joseph Lancaster and Sarah Seaton,of England.Residence,868 n.45th St.Phila. Issue: Albert William,b.9-27-1897. #5926 Samuel Smedley Pinkerton (Rebecca,James,Robert,Jane,Sarah,George) b.Edgmont,10-31-1859;m.Camden,N.J.,7-15-1886,Anna Smedley Baker,b. Willistown,9-18-1867;dau.of Franklin Baker (#3037)and Mary Baker,of Edgmont.Address,Tanguy,Pa. Issue: 5926A Samuel Lewis,b.Edgmont,7-24-1887. 5926B Franklin Baker,b.same,11-3-1888. 5926C Grace Anna,b.Tanguy,7-8-1891. 5926D Natalie Rowland,b.same,9-29-1893. 5926E Clarence,b.same,4-6-1896. Visit The George Smedley Homepage http://smedley.lewis.home.att.net

    04/03/2009 11:26:25
    1. Re: [PaOldC] David Pinkerton
    2. Sandra Ferguson
    3. Are you quite sure of the documentation on the parents Samuel and Sarah?. There is considerable similarity with the Pinkertons, of Chester Co; Samuel Pinkerton, son of an Irish emigrant, was born in 1770 in this county and married Sarah Chrisman, a descendant of Daniel Chrisman, who came from Germany in the ship "Alexander and Ann",Sept 5, 1730...to them were born 9 children....one of whom was a David. Are you sure these aren't the parents and the David in your family? It's all just so like your info. I had no luck with wills....nothing for the Pinkertons...David or Samuel, ...no wills or adm papers. None for Daniel Chrisman, either.... Sandra " I am looking for the wife of David Pinkerton b.1812 in East Brandywine, Chester co, Pa. and was married to an Eliza,????? Who died on 22 May 1838. They had a child named Sarag E. Pinkerton. David's parents' were Samuel Pinkerton b. 8 Aug 1771 in Trenton, Mercer Co. Pa and died 10 Jun 1850 in Chester Pa he was married to Sarah Chisman in 1800; she was b. 1770 in E. Brandywine, Chester, Pa. and died Sep 1830 in Chester Co. It is this Eliza and her line that I am looking for."

    04/03/2009 08:15:39
    1. [PaOldC] David Pinkerton
    2. Suunsu
    3. Greetings all, I am looking for the wife of David Pinkerton b.1812 in East Brandywine, Chester co, Pa. and was married to an Eliza,????? Who died on 22 May 1838. They had a child named Sarag E. Pinkerton. David's parents' were Samuel Pinkerton b. 8 Aug 1771 in Trenton, Mercer Co. Pa and died 10 Jun 1850 in Chester Pa he was married to Sarah Chisman in 1800; she was b. 1770 in E. Brandywine, Chester, Pa. and died Sep 1830 in Chester Co. It is this Eliza and her line that I am looking for. I am also looking for more information on Joseph Blondin and his wife Margaret I have no info on her line. Nor do I have any other info on Joseph. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks ........... Rich Blondin

    04/03/2009 05:12:08
    1. [PaOldC] New Del Co cemetery submission
    2. Sandra Ferguson
    3. http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/delaware/cemeteries/honeycombuame.txt

    04/02/2009 04:46:38
    1. Re: [PaOldC] Obit: Whipple/Franks/Davis
    2. Aimee Heinly
    3. What information are you looking for? I have Whipple ancestors. They came to Essex, MA from England in the 1600s. Do you have any information on your Thomas E. Whipple's parents? It would be many generations to link him to my Whipples. Try the website www.whipple.org ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 4:04 AM Subject: [PaOldC] Obit: Whipple/Franks/Davis > Arizona Republic, Feb. 25, 2009 - > WHIPPLE, Alberta "Bert" Grace,???? born 4-4-1919?in Bridgeville > PA,????died 2/22/2009?in Phoenix AZ (formerly of Prescott AZ)?? > burial Mountain View Cemetery, Prescott AZ,??? Husband:??Thomas E. > Whipple, death 1968,???? Parents:??George & Lizzie (Franks) Davis > Children:???Son, Phx AZ,? Son, Chico CA, Son, Phx AZ, Dtr, Glendale > AZ?????? submitted by: Doreen Sexton, Mesa AZ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/01/2009 06:32:38
    1. [PaOldC] Obit: Whipple/Franks/Davis
    2. Arizona Republic, Feb. 25, 2009 - WHIPPLE, Alberta "Bert" Grace,???? born 4-4-1919?in Bridgeville PA,????died 2/22/2009?in Phoenix AZ (formerly of Prescott AZ)?? burial Mountain View Cemetery, Prescott AZ,??? Husband:??Thomas E. Whipple, death 1968,???? Parents:??George & Lizzie (Franks) Davis Children:???Son, Phx AZ,? Son, Chico CA, Son, Phx AZ, Dtr, Glendale AZ?????? submitted by: Doreen Sexton, Mesa AZ

    03/31/2009 10:04:08
    1. [PaOldC] Tibbet/Tebbets
    2. Sandra Ferguson
    3. from a lookup in Concord MM marriage certificates 1679-1808; There is no Tibbet in the index, and the only possible I find is ; Rose Tebbets, who attended the marriage of Nathaniel Newlin and Mary Fincher, 1729. As there are no marriages for this name,either spelling, I'd be inclined to think this was a non-Quaker neighbor or friend, who attended as that, not as a meeting member. S.

    03/31/2009 08:08:59
    1. Re: [PaOldC] Edward Jennings, 1693 Concord tax list
    2. Sandra Ferguson
    3. from CONCORD TWP - THE COLONIAL LEGACY by Case; Edward Jennings bought 100 acres from George Strode, in 1701...Concord Twp (footnote - This appears in deedbook G, 647) This land was sold by Edward Jennings/Jennings (also spelled Jonnans) on Oct 22, 1705, to John Hannum.......(this appears to indicate that perhaps Edward was not of British descent, but of Germanic origins....I don't think an Englishman would have had a name like Jonnans....worth looking into). There is no mention of a Dodd in the history of Concord or in THE HISTORY OF CHESTER CO PA, by Futhey and Cope....neither man left wills, either, or adm. papers in any area counties, or are they mentioned in any way...witness, admin, etc.I checked Jennings/Jenning/Jenings/Jening/Jonnans, and Dodd. As the majority of these early settlers were Quakers, I checked the Concord MM marriage certificates....nothing for Jennings or Dodd....so, none of this surname married in this meeting 1679-1808 or attended the marriages of others, either. I didn't find the names in any of the MM records I have, so I would think there is a good chance they might not have been Quakers. from Early Court Records...through 1710.... Edward Jenning served as supervisor of Highways for Concord - 1701 " " served as Concord Constable 1703, 1704/5 He had indentured slaves, as there are a couple mentions of problems he had with them.....but, there is nothing for the surname Dodd. I can find absolutely nothing for Dodd....if you have other Jenning/Jennings given names you want me to check for, send them along. Sandra The name Edward Jennings appears on the Concord Township tax list for 1693. From roughly 1718-1740 the name William Dodd appears multiple times in the Concord, Thornbury, and Kennett area tax lists. We are trying to find other incidences of the Jennings surname in proximity to William Dodd. Does anyone know more about this Edward Jennings of the 1693 tax list or any other Chester, PA, area Jennings?

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