_http://chester-county-genealogy.com/modules/lexikon/print.php?entryID=209_ (http://chester-county-genealogy.com/modules/lexikon/print.php?entryID=209) Doe Run Friends Burial Ground Derrymeeting Rd, Doe Run, PA In a message dated 4/9/2009 11:04:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: [email protected] wrote:>Mark - > >Were you Barton's Quakers? There is a Doe Run Friends Burial Ground and Linden Farm was adjacent to Birmingham Friends Meeting House. >Your family might have belonged to the 2 different meetings. > >KarenShort answer- I don't know. But you raise a good point that I'll have to explore. Do you know where the Doe Run Friends Burial Ground is located? I tried unsuccessfully to find it on current maps or web sites.Mark ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************New Deals on Dell Netbooks – Now starting at $299 (A HREF=http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220635155x1201407495/aol?redir=http:%2F %2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B213771973%3B35379628%3Bw)

I have a drawing of the Chester/Montgomery counties, How can I share this with the group? Rich -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 12:45 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Doe Run Friends Burial Ground [was: Linden Farm?] Doe Run was established in 1808 and is located in Londonderry Twp. It is also called Derry Mtg. and if I remember correctly it is located between London Grove and Fallowfield Twps. Barclay In a message dated 4/9/2009 11:05:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: [email protected] wrote:>Mark - > >Were you Barton's Quakers? There is a Doe Run Friends Burial Ground and Linden Farm was adjacent to Birmingham Friends Meeting House. >Your family might have belonged to the 2 different meetings. > >KarenShort answer- I don't know. But you raise a good point that I'll have to explore. Do you know where the Doe Run Friends Burial Ground is located? I tried unsuccessfully to find it on current maps or web sites.Mark ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************New Deals on Dell Netbooks – Now starting at $299 (A HREF=http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220635155x1201407495/aol?redir=http:%2F %2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B213771973%3B35379628%3Bw) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

[email protected] wrote:>Mark - >  >Were you Barton's Quakers?  There is a Doe Run Friends Burial Ground and Linden Farm was adjacent to Birmingham Friends Meeting House.  >Your family might have belonged to the 2 different meetings. >  >KarenShort answer- I don't know.  But you raise a good point that I'll have to explore. Do you know where the Doe Run Friends Burial Ground is located? I tried unsuccessfully to find it on current maps or web sites.Mark

Doe Run was established in 1808 and is located in Londonderry Twp. It is also called Derry Mtg. and if I remember correctly it is located between London Grove and Fallowfield Twps. Barclay In a message dated 4/9/2009 11:05:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: [email protected] wrote:>Mark - > >Were you Barton's Quakers? There is a Doe Run Friends Burial Ground and Linden Farm was adjacent to Birmingham Friends Meeting House. >Your family might have belonged to the 2 different meetings. > >KarenShort answer- I don't know. But you raise a good point that I'll have to explore. Do you know where the Doe Run Friends Burial Ground is located? I tried unsuccessfully to find it on current maps or web sites.Mark ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************New Deals on Dell Netbooks – Now starting at $299 (A HREF=http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220635155x1201407495/aol?redir=http:%2F %2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B213771973%3B35379628%3Bw)

Greetings all, I have a few questions : 1. What and where is a good source for people entering the US, but not through Elis Island? 2. What and where is a good source for people from Canada, Poland, Germany, and Russia? 3. Up through what year are US census, and SSID death info available? 4. What is the best way to look for living relatives? My biggest problem is that all that is known are names, and sometimes just the first name. Is there a good place for searching people in Europe? Thank you all for the help you have given me. Rich

Thank you for this information.  I guess I was expecting to see it closer to the Doe Run / Unionville area, where our BARTON family was found. They must have moved around more than I thought.Mark----- Original Message -----From: [email protected]: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 10:39 pmSubject: Re: [PaOldC] Linden Farm?To: [email protected], [email protected]> > Crossing Route 926, on the east is Linden Farm of 1732 which is > adjacent to > Birmingham Meeting House. It was here that opposing muskets > were fired in > the Brandywine Battle when the Colonists made a wavering line > of defense > from the Meeting House stone wall across into Skirmish Hill > which is now part > of the O'Dell's property. > Here is the web site with more information: > _http://www.livingplaces.com/PA/Chester_County/Birmingham_Township.html_ > (http://www.livingplaces.com/PA/Chester_County/Birmingham_Township.html) > Karen> > > In a message dated 4/7/2009 10:24:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > [email protected] writes:> > This may be a long shot. A cousin recalls hearing about a farm > owned or > run by a member of the BARTON family which was called the > Linden Farm. He > recalled it being located somewhere in Chester County, right > next to a Quaker > meeting house, but he doesn't know the town.Does any of this > sound > familiar to anyone??Mark Waldron> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message> > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in > just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221421323x1201417385/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26> hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooterNO62)>

Mark - Were you Barton's Quakers? There is a Doe Run Friends Burial Ground and Linden Farm was adjacent to Birmingham Friends Meeting House. Your family might have belonged to the 2 different meetings. Karen In a message dated 4/8/2009 8:53:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Thank you for this information. I guess I was expecting to see it closer to the Doe Run / Unionville area, where our BARTON family was found. They must have moved around more than I thought.Mark----- Original Message -----From: [email protected]: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 10:39 pmSubject: Re: [PaOldC] Linden Farm?To: [email protected], [email protected]> > Crossing Route 926, on the east is Linden Farm of 1732 which is > adjacent to > Birmingham Meeting House. It was here that opposing muskets > were fired in > the Brandywine Battle when the Colonists made a wavering line > of defense > from the Meeting House stone wall across into Skirmish Hill > which is now part > of the O'Dell's property. > Here is the web site with more information: > _http://www.livingplaces.com/PA/Chester_County/Birmingham_Township.html_ > (http://www.livingplaces.com/PA/Chester_County/Birmingham_Township.html) > Karen> > > In a message dated 4/7/2009 10:24:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > [email protected] writes:> > This may be a long shot. A cousin recalls hearing about a farm > owned or > run by a member of the BARTON family which was called the > Linden Farm. He > recalled it being located somewhere in Chester County, right > next to a Quaker > meeting house, but he doesn't know the town.Does any of this > sound > familiar to anyone??Mark Waldron> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message> > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in > just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221421323x1201417385/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26> hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooterNO62)> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************New Deals on Dell Netbooks – Now starting at $299 (A HREF=http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219939010x1201342897/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fa d.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B213771626%3B35379597%3Bw)

Whoops! Didn't check the link I included....mia culpa....and, thanks for catching it, Joe. S.

MY husband just sent me this, thinking it might be helpful, so I'm passing it along to you all. www.ecola.com.url a link to newspapers & magazines worldwide. (I just spend some time reading my hometown news! S.

Mark, If you had done a simple google with "linden farm" +chester county pennsylvania as your subject, the first 'hit' in the list would have been the site which contained the info on the area , including the Linden farm info sent you by a helpful fellow list member... http://www.livingplaces.com/PA/Chester_County/Birmingham_Township.html Never underestimate what you can find using google as your search engine.....however, it is a help to put " " around the main subject, thereby ensuring that you will find the words within that subject in proximity....then, after your 'subject', you may modify that subject by, as in this case, using +chester county pa....this will then only give you sites that contain the words "linden farm" in proximity, PLUS contain the words Chester co pa....this will definitely cut down on the sites you wouldn't be interested in and give you only sites that would be helpful in your hunt! I don't own google 'stock', but sure wish I did....it's a valuable tool for finding anything and everything, from a 'lost' ancestor to a recipe for oxtail soup ..(.the latter, I did that yesterday!) Sandra " This may be a long shot. A cousin recalls hearing about a farm owned or run by a member of the BARTON family which was called the Linden Farm. He recalled it being located somewhere in Chester County, right next to a Quaker meeting house, but he doesn't know the town.Does any of this sound familiar to anyone??"

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This may be a long shot.  A cousin recalls hearing about a farm owned or run by a member of the BARTON family which was called the Linden Farm. He recalled it being located somewhere in Chester County, right next to a Quaker meeting house, but he doesn't know the town.Does any of this sound familiar to anyone??Mark Waldron

Crossing Route 926, on the east is Linden Farm of 1732 which is adjacent to Birmingham Meeting House. It was here that opposing muskets were fired in the Brandywine Battle when the Colonists made a wavering line of defense from the Meeting House stone wall across into Skirmish Hill which is now part of the O'Dell's property. Here is the web site with more information: _http://www.livingplaces.com/PA/Chester_County/Birmingham_Township.html_ (http://www.livingplaces.com/PA/Chester_County/Birmingham_Township.html) Karen In a message dated 4/7/2009 10:24:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: This may be a long shot. A cousin recalls hearing about a farm owned or run by a member of the BARTON family which was called the Linden Farm. He recalled it being located somewhere in Chester County, right next to a Quaker meeting house, but he doesn't know the town.Does any of this sound familiar to anyone??Mark Waldron ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221421323x1201417385/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26 hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooterNO62)

Definitely!!! The whole genealogy thing to me is like a big puzzle. I think that's why I like it. And having to use the back and side doors is kind of sleuth-like.... :D Lynn On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Sandra Ferguson <[email protected]> wrote: > It's a big part of the fun of genealogical research, don't you think? > The high spots of MY research are these! > >

>>Later, I decided that his sons had somewhat unusual names....Alexander Finley Smith and Andrew Duncan Smith... I theorized that these boys were named for specific men...so, I researched for those men and not the Smiths..... I found them both is a Presbyterian congregation in York Co, Pa, and there were the Smiths, AND the family of Joseph's wife, Roseanne Baxter, all their baptism & marriage dates, etc.<< Having the last name Thomas puts me right in the same boat!!! I have to do Everything this way. It works, too! Lynn

None of these folk were ever PA residents, but here's how it went for my grandmother's ancestral Wiseman family name. There origin was in the Reform Presbyterian community in rural County Antrim in North Ireland, and the first of them arrived in the US in 1836, in the person of one Archibald Wiseman.   Archie Wiseman married Susan Clyde in Newburgh, NY. Their first-born daughter (who died young) was Margaret Dunlap Wiseman, named after Archie's mother (back in Ireland) before her marriage.. Their first-born son was David Clyde Wiseman (who also died young), named after Susan's father (who did live part of his later life in Newburgh). They later had another son with the same name who grew to adulthood, married and had children. Their youngest son was also named Archibald Wiseman.  Another son who survived to adulthood was Samuel Dunlap Wiseman, named after Archie's mother's father. There was also a daughter named Elizabeth Ann Wiseman, my paternal great-grandmother, but I'm not sure who it was, if anyone, that she was named after. After Elizabeth married the Scots-born John McNeal in 1863, they proceeded to have five children: My grandmother, Margaret Dunlsp McNeal: My elder great aunt, Susan Clyde McNeal: My elder great uncle, Archibald McNeal My younger great uncle, Joseph Wilson McNeal, named after his mother's father (from back in Scotland). This Wilson line had no connection to my own Wilson surname. My younger great aunt, Elizabeth McNeal who died as an infant, and who was named after her mother who had died giving birth to her. Interestingly enough, although my great grandmother had four out of five children who grew up to be married, only my grandmother had a child, my father (for whom I am named). In the early days of the searches for my ancestrral family, the discovery of this naming pattern was most useful to me. Bob Wilson Jr.            --- On Tue, 4/7/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: PA-OLD-CHESTER Digest, Vol 4, Issue 90 To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 3:01 AM Today's Topics:    1. Re:  German naming patterns [was: naming order] (Sandra Ferguson)    2.  "what's in a name?" (Sandra Ferguson)    3. Re:  German naming patterns [was: naming order] (Dave Lambert)    4. Re:  "what's in a name?" (Ginni Morgan)    5. Re:  naming order ([email protected]) To contact the PA-OLD-CHESTER list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the PA-OLD-CHESTER mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text.

Sandra, Actually, your/our ancestors, Joshua and Mary (Lewis) Pusey followed this pattern fairly closely but in the mid-18th century. Their first son Ellis was named for Mary's father, Ellis Lewis Their second son William was named for Joshua's father, William Pusey Their third son Joshua was named for his father Their first daughter was named Elizabeth (for either or both Elizabeth Bowater and Elizabeth Newlin) Their second daughter was named Mary for her mother. Starting with their sixth child they seemed to go pretty random - Susanna, Robert, Phebe, Hannah, Lewis and Lydia with innumerable cousins, aunts, uncles, and a grandfather as possible sources. I haven't seen much of the tradition into the 19th century but I suppose there were some families that continued it... John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Ferguson" <[email protected]> To: [email protected], [email protected] Sent: Monday, April 6, 2009 12:17:13 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [PaOldC] naming order Use this only as a hint, a clue, rather than  fact.   Personally, none of my families have ever followed any particular naming order, and many named children for adult friends rather than family members....                                                                                        Sandra

See "18th Century PA German Naming Customs" at www.kerchner.com/germname.htm. You may want to turn off/down the audio!! David Lambert

Sometimes 'what's in a name' may be the difference in finding ancestors or not. In my own family, my only clue to Joseph Smith's origins was in the census, where he was said to have been born in Pa....but, where does one start looking for a Joseph Smith born in the 1700s, in some unknown place in PA?....... Later, I decided that his sons had somewhat unusual names....Alexander Finley Smith and Andrew Duncan Smith... I theorized that these boys were named for specific men...so, I researched for those men and not the Smiths..... I found them both is a Presbyterian congregation in York Co, Pa, and there were the Smiths, AND the family of Joseph's wife, Roseanne Baxter, all their baptism & marriage dates, etc. So, while not named for family members, their names were extremely important to me, as a researcher. (the 3rd son was named Ferdinand Spangler Smith...boy, how'd you like to get stuck with THAT one! I did find the original Ferdinand in the area, but not in the same church...so, a friend? a neighbor? Some close, albeit it NOT a family tie.) S.

Name research is fascinating. And for every "rule" we come up with, there seem to be just as many exceptions. It really does seem that the later in time we get (closer to the modern era), the less the "rules" apply. And every culture/religion had their own way of doing things. Of course, we're doing research in the melting pot, so we have to try to figure out all of the different ways. ;>) Ginni Morgan >>> Sandra Ferguson <[email protected]> 4/6/09 12:46 PM >>> Sometimes 'what's in a name' may be the difference in finding ancestors or not. In my own family, my only clue to Joseph Smith's origins was in the census, where he was said to have been born in Pa....but, where does one start looking for a Joseph Smith born in the 1700s, in some unknown place in PA?....... Later, I decided that his sons had somewhat unusual names....Alexander Finley Smith and Andrew Duncan Smith... I theorized that these boys were named for specific men...so, I researched for those men and not the Smiths..... I found them both is a Presbyterian congregation in York Co, Pa, and there were the Smiths, AND the family of Joseph's wife, Roseanne Baxter, all their baptism & marriage dates, etc. So, while not named for family members, their names were extremely important to me, as a researcher. (the 3rd son was named Ferdinand Spangler Smith...boy, how'd you like to get stuck with THAT one! I did find the original Ferdinand in the area, but not in the! same church...so, a friend? a neighbor? Some close, albeit it NOT a family tie.) S. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication.