Do you know the parentage of George Martin who married Edith Sharpless? I am trying to see where he fits in my Thomas Martin/Marjory Mendenhall line. -----Original Message----- From: George Smedley [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 11:01 AM To: Cyndie Eckman Cc: PaOldChester Subject: [PaOldC] Martin bio George Martin, b.Upper Chichester,4-29-1827;d.West Chester,10-28-1886;;m.Concord Meeting,2-6-1850,Ann Trimble,b.Concord,8-25-1827;d.Newport,R.I.,8-14-1890 He was son of George Martin and Edith Sharpless,of Upper Chichester;was graduated M.D.,University of Pa.,about 1847; settled at Concordville and was one of the founders of the Delaware Co. Medical Society.After three or four years he removed to Philadelphia and became connected with the Central Dispensary for about five years.He next became a partner with his cousin,John M Sharpless,in the manufacture of dye-stuffs,at Chester.Since 1866 his residence was in West Chester,retired from the practice of his profession except as a consulting physician.His health was never robust,and for several years he spent the winters in Florida for the advantage of a milder climate. At the time of his death he was one of the managers of the Penna. Training School,near Media,Pa.As a student of botany,in the department of fungi,he had few equals.His widow died at Newport,whither she had gone for a change of air. Visit The George Smedley Homepage http://smedley.lewis.home.att.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

George Martin, b.Upper Chichester,4-29-1827;d.West Chester,10-28-1886;;m.Concord Meeting,2-6-1850,Ann Trimble,b.Concord,8-25-1827;d.Newport,R.I.,8-14-1890 He was son of George Martin and Edith Sharpless,of Upper Chichester;was graduated M.D.,University of Pa.,about 1847; settled at Concordville and was one of the founders of the Delaware Co. Medical Society.After three or four years he removed to Philadelphia and became connected with the Central Dispensary for about five years.He next became a partner with his cousin,John M Sharpless,in the manufacture of dye-stuffs,at Chester.Since 1866 his residence was in West Chester,retired from the practice of his profession except as a consulting physician.His health was never robust,and for several years he spent the winters in Florida for the advantage of a milder climate. At the time of his death he was one of the managers of the Penna. Training School,near Media,Pa.As a student of botany,in the department of fungi,he had few equals.His widow died at Newport,whither she had gone for a change of air. Visit The George Smedley Homepage http://smedley.lewis.home.att.net

Dora writes: > What would John Smith have woven?   Did people grow flax in southeastern > Chester County/ White Clay Creek area?   Or would John Smith have mostly > woven wool?    > > Was it possible to weave linen and wool with the same loom?   John Smith > did not own two looms.  > Dora, It's possible to weave linen and wool with the same loom -- "linsey woolsey" was a popular blend of linen and wool in the Colonies. A coarse fabric combination of the two threads that were woven with a linen warp and a woolen weft. It was used to stretch wool on hand, which was relatively scarce in early America and to create a fabric warmer than just linen. Used mainly for clothing (pants, shirts and dresses) and for lightweight coverlets or blankets, it was probably a bit scratchy against the skin and was replaced later with the soon to be more popular cotton grown in the South. The linsey-woolsey available today has no linen in it but uses a cotton and wool blend. Eleanor Rayl

Many years ago I read a book that mentioned the subject and I decided to poke around and found this: http://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+gender+division+of+labor+in+the+production+of+textiles+in...-a015324645 Cut short <G> there is lots about all parts of the trade with some interesting Chester Co tidbits. Eliz Weaving as Men's Work: Joseph Eldridge, Propertied Weaving was a more fully commercial activity in Chester County than spinning, with weavers representing approximately 13-20 percent of all taxable artisans between 1765 and 180--about 1 to 3 percent of the taxable population at this time.(36) The example of one Chester County weaver, Joseph Eldridge, provides insight into how these craftsmen were trained, their use of auxiliary labor and their artisanal life cycle. When followed by a composite portrait of weavers obtained from quantifiable sources, a clear picture of the work lives of these men emerges that is vastly different from the female experience in late eighteenth-century New England. Eldridge was born in 1765 in Goshen Township where he lived until his death in 1845.(37) Descended from four generations of American weavers, his training and work cycle deviated little from those of his ancestors.(38) Due to the premature death Premature Death occurs when a living thing dies of a cause other than old age. A premature death can be the result of injury, illness, violence, suicide, poor nutrition (often stemming from low income), starvation, dehydration, or other factors. ..... Click the link for more information. of his mother, Eldridge, while still a boy, went to live with his unmarried uncle James Garrett and learn the weaving business. Over the years Joseph's status changed several times: after serving his apprenticeship, by 1789, at the age of 24, he was a fully trained weaver--an occupation for which he was taxed that year--in addition to being married and having a child.(39) At this point he was living with his wife and young family on his uncle's farm, probably paying for his keep by weaving and assisting his uncle with agricultural work.(40) In 1794 when James died he bequeathed his esteemed friend and nephew . . . who now liveth with me in the house the whole Plantation or tract of Land and appurtenances APPURTENANCES. In common parlance and legal acceptation, is used to signify something belonging to another thing as principal, and which passes as incident to the principal thing. 10 Peters, R. 25; Angell, Wat. C. 43; 1 Serg. & Rawle, 169; 5 S. & R. 110; 5 S. & R. 107; Cro. Jac. that I now live on Situate sit·u·ate tr.v. sit·u·at·ed, sit·u·at·ing, sit·u·ates 1. To place in a certain spot or position; locate. 2. To place under particular circumstances or in a given condition. adj. in the Township of Goshen Containing about one hundred and Fifty acres be the same more or less. . . . I Also give and bequeath To dispose of Personal Property owned by a decedent at the time of death as a gift under the provisions of the decedent's will. The term bequeath applies only to personal property. unto my said Nephew Joseph Eldridge the whole of my Stock, farming utensils and household furniture what ever that I am now Possessed of.(41) The young man, a fifth generation weaver, now had a trade, tools, money inherited from his grandparents grandparents npl → abuelos mpl grandparents grand npl → grands-parents mpl grandparents grand npl and a good deal of property with which to expand his own enlarging household and enter into the next phase of his life cycle. Three of Eldridge's account books have survived and shed light on his business practices and changing work patterns.(42) The earliest entry is 1786 when Joseph was twenty-three years old, unmarried and childless. As a journeyman weaver, prior to having children and his uncle James's death, in 1794, with the ensuing en·sue intr.v. en·sued, en·su·ing, en·sues 1. To follow as a consequence or result. See Synonyms at follow. 2. To take place subsequently. ..... Click the link for more information. responsibilities of running a farm, Eldridge produced more cloth than he did later. During this time, he had little help with his weaving; between 1786 and 1789 his annual output averaged approximately 625 yards. By the late 1790s, however, as a propertied master weaver, increasing agricultural responsibilities left Eldridge with less time to weave himself. Since his own children were too small to help with the craft work, he hired young single men or "freemen" who lived with him to make much of the cloth produced by his workshop.(43) For example, journeyman weaver, Isaac Yarnall, began a year's boarding with Eldridge on April 14, 1795, for which he paid |pounds~22/10/0. Like the single female spinners who spent their earnings on personal items, Yarnall bought such things as a sheepskin apron apron, n a piece of clothing worn in front of the body for protection. apron band, n a labioincisal or gingival extension of an orthodontic band that aids in retention of the band and in proper positioning of the bracket. , a silver brooch brooch Ornamental pin with a clasp to attach it to a garment. Brooches developed from the Greek and Roman fibula, which resembled a decorative safety pin and was used as a fastening for cloaks and tunics. , yarn for stockings, tobacco, powder and shot Noun 1. powder and shot - ammunition consisting of gunpowder and bullets for muskets ammo, ammunition - projectiles to be fired from a gun ..... Click the link for more information. and candles from his employer. In return, he wove for half pay and performed a variety of agricultural jobs, for which he received additional wages. At the end of the year, if mutually agreeable, Eldridge and Yarnall could renew their agreement. However, if the young man was in a position to acquire his own property or received a better offer elsewhere, Eldridge would have to find a replacement and enter into a similar agreement with someone new.(44) Operating under this type of arrangement, Eldridge wove only 60 yards himself in 1794, compared to his annual output of 625 yards a decade earlier; his paid worker produced 470 yards of cloth. As his sons matured, Joseph taught them the skills he had learned from his uncle. By 1809, two sons and a contractual artisan produced about 1,499 yards of cloth among them, more than double what Eldridge had made when he worked alone. The added familial labor freed the older weaver from the necessity of making cloth himself and allowed him to develop further both his agricultural and craft operations. He expanded the latter in 1813, when he acquired a fulling mill a mill for fulling cloth as by means of pesties or stampers, which alternately fall into and rise from troughs where the cloth is placed with hot water and fuller's earth, or other cleansing materials. See also: Fulling , thereby transforming his weaving operation into a small woolen factory that could produce finished cloth for sale. Eldridge's life as a farmer/weaver paralleled that of his Pennsylvania weaving forebears. He learned his trade from a relative with whom he worked until he acquired his own land (in this case by inheritance). After weaving first for himself and later supplementing his output with contractual, then family, labor, Eldridge was able simultaneously to produce more cloth for sale and to expand his farming activities. Although he utilized contractual workers to assist him while his family was young rather than the bound labor used by earlier generations, Eldridge continued the tradition of training his sons in his craft which they practiced until well into the nineteenth century.(45) An examination of a broader population of Pennsylvania weavers demonstrates that many artisans experienced a life cycle similar to Eldridge.

Well, it's just that the people at the Chester County Historical Society wouldn't believe that JOhn Smith didn't grow sheep or flax on his land, and seemed to need to know what he did for a living, even though the tax records clearly show that he had very little but a loom, and he was chiefly taxed on his skills and business as a weaver. I always assumed that either he bought the thread or yarn or people brought their fiber to him to be turned into cloth. What I really want to know at this point is whether he wove wool or flax. It's actually beginning to look like a Presbyterian in Londonderry would ahve been more likely to have woven flax. Ireland was forbidden to export wool, or anything else, and they ahd to get all raw materials they needed to import from England, which is why Ireland had no industry at all going into the potato famine. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eliz Hanebury" <[email protected]> To: "Dora Smith" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Would a London Britain township weaver have woven linen? Even if not taxed for sheep he still could have woven wool <G> in the exchange principal. And he could have woven for people who brought their linen, wool or possibly even cotton. He could even have been like the men who did coverlets with a jacquard loom. The connection between Ireland and linen is so strong <G> to us. Most interesting question, I wait for others to chime in <G> Eliz

Even if not taxed for sheep he still could have woven wool <G> in the exchange principal. And he could have woven for people who brought their linen, wool or possibly even cotton. He could even have been like the men who did coverlets with a jacquard loom. The connection between Ireland and linen is so strong <G> to us. Most interesting question, I wait for others to chime in <G> Eliz On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Dora Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > My three times great grandfather, JOhn Smith, lived in London Britain township in southeastern Chester County.  He bought his property in 1798, and lost it in 1834 after the New Garden textile mills opened.    He was a small time weaver.   He owned 29 acres, and was taxed on a loom, a horse, a cow, and a dog, and possibly a wagon.   The family history says the family divided their labor between the loom and the plow.   He came from Ireland around 1789, and he was a staunchly committed Presbyterian. > > What would John Smith have woven?   Did people grow flax in southeastern Chester County/ White Clay Creek area?   Or would John Smith have mostly woven wool? > > Was it possible to weave linen and wool with the same loom?   John Smith did not own two looms. > > Is there any local historian I could ask? > > Yours, > Dora Smith > Austin, TX > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My three times great grandfather, JOhn Smith, lived in London Britain township in southeastern Chester County. He bought his property in 1798, and lost it in 1834 after the New Garden textile mills opened. He was a small time weaver. He owned 29 acres, and was taxed on a loom, a horse, a cow, and a dog, and possibly a wagon. The family history says the family divided their labor between the loom and the plow. He came from Ireland around 1789, and he was a staunchly committed Presbyterian. What would John Smith have woven? Did people grow flax in southeastern Chester County/ White Clay Creek area? Or would John Smith have mostly woven wool? Was it possible to weave linen and wool with the same loom? John Smith did not own two looms. Is there any local historian I could ask? Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected]

If he wasn't taxed on any sheep, he probably wasn't weaving wool, because he would have needed a fair number to make it worthwhile.  I have ancestors who worked with flax in Chester County, and so that may have been more likely. Jane http://www.hootowlhollow.com http://www.hootowlhollow.blogspot.com   --- On Fri, 9/11/09, Dora Smith <[email protected]> wrote: From: Dora Smith <[email protected]> Subject: [PaOldC] Would a London Britain township weaver have woven linen? To: [email protected] Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 1:41 PM My three times great grandfather, JOhn Smith, lived in London Britain township in southeastern Chester County.  He bought his property in 1798, and lost it in 1834 after the New Garden textile mills opened.    He was a small time weaver.   He owned 29 acres, and was taxed on a loom, a horse, a cow, and a dog, and possibly a wagon.   The family history says the family divided their labor between the loom and the plow.   He came from Ireland around 1789, and he was a staunchly committed Presbyterian. What would John Smith have woven?   Did people grow flax in southeastern Chester County/ White Clay Creek area?   Or would John Smith have mostly woven wool?    Was it possible to weave linen and wool with the same loom?   John Smith did not own two looms.    Is there any local historian I could ask? Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My goodness how you have grown grandma <G> wonder what Glenmoore and others have to say about being Chester Springs <G> Very interesting <G> Eliz On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Barbara <[email protected]> wrote: > Thought the following might be of interest - > > Marketing Chester County's Charming Spaces > By Brian McCullough, Journal Register News Service > > CHESTER SPRINGS — When open space and history are the products, what are the best ways to market them? > > That was the question Heather Reiffer and Rob Lukens pondered and worked on for years as they sought a way to lure more visitors to their pastoral northern Chester County settings. > > "That was one of the challenges," said Reiffer, executive director of The Mill at Anselma. "The northern part of the county had never been successfully marketed. There was no cohesive way this part of the county had ever been marketed." > > That changed last week when Chester Springs Villages and its 20 attractions, environmental organizations and neighborhood partners came together under a unifying message, proclaiming the area as Chester Springs Surrounds: natural charm. > > The launch included the publication of a guide to Chester Springs Surrounds and a portal to the area: www.ChesterSpringsSurrounds.org. > > Reiffer said the group hopes there will be power in numbers. > > "We (Anselma) are a small historical site," she noted. "On our own, you can spend maybe an hour at the mill. But if you look at Chester Springs as a destination point. ... We just said we should be working with others to get the message out. There’s so much to do around here." > > The project was made possible through a grant from the Pennsylvania Department of Community and Economic Development. > > Chester Springs Surrounds encompasses the green space bounded by Pottstown to the north, Exton to the south, Phoenixville to the east and Elverson to the west. Defining the area are French Creek and Pickering Creek, surrounded by small clusters of state parks, natural preserves, historical attractions and family destinations. > > "The history in this region dates back to the 1700s and was part of our country's industrial heritage," said Lukens, former executive director of Historic Yellow Springs and coordinator of the project along with Reiffer. "From an 18th-century water-powered flour mill to a Revolutionary War military hospital, Chester Springs Surrounds has remained true to its historical roots." > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thought the following might be of interest - Marketing Chester County's Charming Spaces By Brian McCullough, Journal Register News Service CHESTER SPRINGS — When open space and history are the products, what are the best ways to market them? That was the question Heather Reiffer and Rob Lukens pondered and worked on for years as they sought a way to lure more visitors to their pastoral northern Chester County settings. "That was one of the challenges," said Reiffer, executive director of The Mill at Anselma. "The northern part of the county had never been successfully marketed. There was no cohesive way this part of the county had ever been marketed." That changed last week when Chester Springs Villages and its 20 attractions, environmental organizations and neighborhood partners came together under a unifying message, proclaiming the area as Chester Springs Surrounds: natural charm. The launch included the publication of a guide to Chester Springs Surrounds and a portal to the area: www.ChesterSpringsSurrounds.org. Reiffer said the group hopes there will be power in numbers. "We (Anselma) are a small historical site," she noted. "On our own, you can spend maybe an hour at the mill. But if you look at Chester Springs as a destination point. ... We just said we should be working with others to get the message out. There’s so much to do around here." The project was made possible through a grant from the Pennsylvania Department of Community and Economic Development. Chester Springs Surrounds encompasses the green space bounded by Pottstown to the north, Exton to the south, Phoenixville to the east and Elverson to the west. Defining the area are French Creek and Pickering Creek, surrounded by small clusters of state parks, natural preserves, historical attractions and family destinations. "The history in this region dates back to the 1700s and was part of our country's industrial heritage," said Lukens, former executive director of Historic Yellow Springs and coordinator of the project along with Reiffer. "From an 18th-century water-powered flour mill to a Revolutionary War military hospital, Chester Springs Surrounds has remained true to its historical roots."

from a lookup; Edmund Dougherty (which seems to be an alternate spelling to Daugherty) is listed on the 1753 London Britain tax list of 1753, but does not appear as a land owner in 1774, London Britain. I checked for any will or adm papers and the only one in the area, including Chester, Del, Bucks, Berks, Phil Cos is the following, from Chester Co....Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 DOUGHERTY, EDMUND.October 11, 1758. London Britain. adm. to Mary Dougherty & Denis Sullivan

..... I guess it all boils down to the fact that when we create and feed a genealogical site for years, we have earned the right to 'tend' it as we think best. This certainly goes for anyone ..........all who have a site should definitely do as they think best with that site. I'm really surprised that this seems to be a touchy subject for some, but one we'll just have to agree to disagree on, and move along. S.

As I said, earlier, to John.... I would agree that notations could well be included, which contain the documentation for saying so and so... However, I don't think personal opinions, without proof, are necessarily a 'good thing'....far too many people see something.....anything..... and simply 'take' it as truth, thereby perhaps perpetuating the millions of errors already circulating on the internet. Without requiring documentation, it also would allow anyone who disagrees with a spelling, a fact or anything..... to offer an opinion that presents itself as fact, and wish to add their 2 cents worth to the document. We've all met real dingbats in this hobby, who KNOW something completely ridiculous is true, totally sans proof.....and, when you allow one person to 'amend' a document, you have to then allow ALL to do the same, including the dingbats...as I said....a slippery slope. Care to try to explain to a dingbat that others can add, but you say they can't? Not something I want to take on! I think these genealogical lists are not quite the same as the genweb archives, the Chester list, or others of that ilk.....I believe those need to present factual info, not theory. These gen. lists are where you can loosen up a bit and speculate, discuss, give opinions. Sandra

This is a copy and paste of the wording of John's submission email: "Since these are going into the archives - I'll offer my corrections to the original transcription to facilitate folks searching by the more common spellings of their ancestors." Only someone who is deliberately trying to misunderstand his intentions would even question this. He clearly stated that he's offering "corrections" ... "to facilitate folks searching by the more common spellings of their ancestors" - a thing which can only *HELP* rather than hinder. Anyone *knows* that you cannot change a transcription of an original (unless, of course, there is a typo and has not been proofread) and John was just trying to make it easier for someone searching for information. He was not suggesting that the original be changed, in any way, shape or form; he was just offering a more common spelling for folks to use in a search engine. Thank you, John, for this - and I, for one, appreciate your trying to *help* folks instead of making it more difficult ..... Barbara --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Ginni Morgan <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Ginni Morgan <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PaOldC] correcting existing records vs. "Annotations" > To: [email protected] > Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 12:16 PM > To all~ > > Both John and Sandra raise very good points.  I think > Sandra is right > on the subject of "corrections" in that a published > "transcription" is a > historical document in and of itself.    We > should NOT change it. > However, John's thought that we should provide additional > known > information and reasonable alternatives for research is > also well taken. > So, what we have here is not really a disagreement on the > particular > act, but rather on what to call it.  I believe that > what John offered is > not a "correction", but an "annotation".  Looked at > this way, I think we > would all agree that the both the original "transcription" > and any > "annotations" made thereafter would be available to > researchers.  Those > researchers could then decide what/which to believe (and > use).  Or they > can try to locate the original documents and make their > own > transcription.  One would hope that said researcher > would then include a > summary of the available information (with sources) in > their > documentation along with their own analysis of the evidence > collected. > > At any rate, I think that Sandra is correct in that we > should not go > about changing published transcriptions for the reasons she > stated.  I > also think that John is correct that we should all offer > reasoned, > documented supplemental information and annotations to > those same lists. > This gives all of us more information/leads to follow up > with our own > research. > > Sandra and John,  I wish to thank both of you for your > contributions to > our knowledge. > > Ginni Morgan > Sacramento, CA > (searching for Paxton, Keepers, Jordan, & Hayes in > Chester Co) > > >>> <[email protected]> > 9/5/09 8:05 PM >>> > > Sandra, > > You bring up a good point.  I agree it's important to > never 'correct' > the original transcription but to report it > faithfully.  However, I > believe in today's Google world, it's more critical than > ever to provide > interpretations, additional information and context > including alternate > spellings to facilitiate search engines.  The whole > point of this > newslist is to help people find their folk isn't it? > > John > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sandra Ferguson" <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Cc: [email protected], > "cyndie eckman" > <[email protected]>, > [email protected] > > Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2009 5:47:07 PM GMT -05:00 > US/Canada > Eastern > Subject: correcting existing records......... appt. > officers batallion > of  Chester Co Flying Camp. >  > I have a real problem with trying to 'correct' > transcriptions, as I've > mentioned many times before..   When we do > this, anyone can decide that > any name on a list  or any bit of info is 'incorrect' > and wish it to be > changed to something the person believes is > correct.   We really can't > do this.  Transcriptions of original documents 'are > what they are', so > to speak...warts and, perhaps, errors and all!.  When > we begin changing > spellings or whathaveyou, they then become nothing but the > idea of what > others feels they should be, and rendering them useless as > documentation.    So, if folks feel a name is > incorrect, etc, they could > present actual documentation that this could not possible > be correct, > which could be appended to the record...but, the mere > belief that > something is incorrect isn't enough.   This > is the only way we can all > know that something is being presented as it originally > was, and not > altered and changed by others.   Changing , > or correcting original > document contents is a very slippery slope. >                 >          Sandra

To all~ Both John and Sandra raise very good points. I think Sandra is right on the subject of "corrections" in that a published "transcription" is a historical document in and of itself. We should NOT change it. However, John's thought that we should provide additional known information and reasonable alternatives for research is also well taken. So, what we have here is not really a disagreement on the particular act, but rather on what to call it. I believe that what John offered is not a "correction", but an "annotation". Looked at this way, I think we would all agree that the both the original "transcription" and any "annotations" made thereafter would be available to researchers. Those researchers could then decide what/which to believe (and use). Or they can try to locate the original documents and make their own transcription. One would hope that said researcher would then include a summary of the available information (with sources) in their documentation along with their own analysis of the evidence collected. At any rate, I think that Sandra is correct in that we should not go about changing published transcriptions for the reasons she stated. I also think that John is correct that we should all offer reasoned, documented supplemental information and annotations to those same lists. This gives all of us more information/leads to follow up with our own research. Sandra and John, I wish to thank both of you for your contributions to our knowledge. Ginni Morgan Sacramento, CA (searching for Paxton, Keepers, Jordan, & Hayes in Chester Co) >>> <[email protected]> 9/5/09 8:05 PM >>> Sandra, You bring up a good point. I agree it's important to never 'correct' the original transcription but to report it faithfully. However, I believe in today's Google world, it's more critical than ever to provide interpretations, additional information and context including alternate spellings to facilitiate search engines. The whole point of this newslist is to help people find their folk isn't it? John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Ferguson" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected], "cyndie eckman" <[email protected]>, [email protected] Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2009 5:47:07 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: correcting existing records......... appt. officers batallion of Chester Co Flying Camp.  I have a real problem with trying to 'correct' transcriptions, as I've mentioned many times before.. When we do this, anyone can decide that any name on a list or any bit of info is 'incorrect' and wish it to be changed to something the person believes is correct. We really can't do this. Transcriptions of original documents 'are what they are', so to speak...warts and, perhaps, errors and all!. When we begin changing spellings or whathaveyou, they then become nothing but the idea of what others feels they should be, and rendering them useless as documentation. So, if folks feel a name is incorrect, etc, they could present actual documentation that this could not possible be correct, which could be appended to the record...but, the mere belief that something is incorrect isn't enough. This is the only way we can all know that something is being presented as it originally was, and not altered and changed by others. Changing , or correcting original document contents is a very slippery slope. Sandra ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is s olely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication.

This has been sent by a concerned listmember.... S. The following was in Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter for this week and I thought you would want to post it to the Old Chester list. FROM EASTMAN'S NEWSLETTER; Your Help Is Needed: Save the Library of Michigan If you have been reading the news in this newsletter and elsewhere, you probably already know of the threats to move, reduce, and/or close the Library of Michigan. Many genealogists have already protested and those protests are growing louder. In meetings held during the Federation of Genealogical Societies/ Arkansas Genealogical Society Annual Conference in Little Rock this past week, the Records Preservation and Access Committee (a joint committee of the Federation of Genealogical Societies and the National Genealogical Society) has initiated a petition drive in support of the Library of Michigan. Genealogists from within and without Michigan are encouraged to sign the online petition. You are encouraged to sign this online petition NOW. You can read more at http://www.fgs.org/rpac. Do you have questions, comments, or corrections to this article? If so, please post your words in the Plus Edition newsletter at: http://eogn.com/wp/?p=6410 or in the Standard Edition newsletter at: http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2009/09/your-help-is-needed-save-the-library-of-michigan.html

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I have some Bean info that even if it does not connect, is a good read. [email protected] Kit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Ferguson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 5:59 PM Subject: [PaOldC] Bean/Bane > Someone asked about a James Bean, and when I looked in the CD of wills, I > found adm papers that used the spelling Bean (Bane), which got me > thinking, > so I looked under Bean and Bane, in Futhey and Cope....found the following > on the Bane family, who seemed to have James in each generation, and might > be the 'way to go' when researching James Bean. > > S. > BEAN (BANE), JAMES. Chester County.January 6, 1809.Esther Bean and Daniel > Meredith, Administrators. > > > Alexander Bane...Merion...bought 300 acres Goshen 1711 and settled there. > 1713 married Jane Moore and had ch - Jane, Mary, William Catharine, > Alexander and David; > Wm m Margaret, dau Thomas Evans ca 1746 and had ch - Alexander, Thomas, > Elizabeth (m Jonathan Hoopes), Wm, Jesse, Nathan, Abner, Jane and James. > Mordecai Bane, probably bro of Alexander, bought land in 1715, > Goshen, where he died ca 1747 leaving second wife, Mary (Teague) and > children - Mordecai, Nathan, James, Joseph, Mary, Samuel, Isaac, Sarah, > Hannah, Rachel, Barbara, and Jane. > Nathan Bane, s Mordecai, m 12-27-1735, Mary Cock, d Henry and Mary > Cock, > of Long Island b 8-8-1711. He died Goshen 1748, leaving 8 children. > Among > them, Amy, m > Nathan Cope 1758, Sarah m Thomas Hoopes 1763, James m Ruth Waln, 1765. > Elizabeth m Daniel Hoopes 1762, Deborah m Samuel Rea, 1774. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.80/2349 - Release Date: 09/06/09 05:51:00

I have some info on the Finley family from Bucks County, Pa. I do not see a Jane Worley, are you interested in the Finley family only in relation to Jane?http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pointe/5838/VOL1.html If you have a hard time reading, click on "Select All" ....the other info I have is for a James Finley who married a Patterson. This family connects to my Hall family. Kit For anyone else's info on Finley ----- Original Message ----- From: "ruby riley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 12:38 PM Subject: [PaOldC] FINNEY and Fagg's Manor Is the Finney family mentioned a variant spelling of the Finley family who lived in Fagg's Manor. The Presbyterian minister, John Finley, is said to have kept records of the marriages performed by him in the 1780's. Can anyone tell me where to view that list? Can anyone enlighten me about Jane Worley? --- On Sun, 9/6/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: PA-OLD-CHESTER Digest, Vol 4, Issue 174 To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 2:01 AM Today's Topics: 1. Morris Llwellyn et al (Sandra Ferguson) 2. correcting existing records......... appt. officers batallion of Chester Co Flying Camp. (Sandra Ferguson) 3. Bean/Bane (Sandra Ferguson) 4. Morris Llewelyn (George Smedley) 5. Re: correcting existing records ([email protected]) To contact the PA-OLD-CHESTER list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the PA-OLD-CHESTER mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.80/2349 - Release Date: 09/06/09 05:51:00

I did a simple google and discovered his full name to be James Evans Finley.....I then googled his full name and found his marriage records for 1781+.....you need to put google on your desktop and use it to find anything and everything from marriages to miso soup...it is a very valuable tool for all genealogists. http://books.google.com/books?id=PpOyRCGnZ_IC&pg=PA73&lpg=PA73&dq=%22john+evans+finley%22++%2Bmarriages+performed&source=bl&ots=6vYpMn3P64&sig=wi_XTudx0zG2uqdadnAsiMIig18& Anything is possible, but nowhere did I see anything but the spelling Finley for James. Some dates for Jane Worley would be helpful - ,just a name and nothing else isn't really enough....also, any other info you know of her...husband? father? Sandra "Is the Finney family mentioned a variant spelling of the Finley family who lived in Fagg's Manor. The Presbyterian minister, John Finley, is said to have kept records of the marriages performed by him in the 1780's. Can anyone tell me where to view that list? Can anyone enlighten me about Jane Worley?"