checking to see if I am subscribed I get the list but none of my messages have come thru Rose

As I mentioned before, all lists to the post get archived. While your messages are wonderful, they are also clogging up the archives. Let it rest. Sandra will get active when she feels she can, in the meantime she is still taking care of the administrative duties of your list. So, in her active absence, help each other; be proactive, get down to business. All of those cliches which are very meaningful. But cease and desist from clogging up your archives. I'm sure all of you have various sources; so join together and help each other. If each of you takes a slightly more active role (i.e. helping each other more), you will manage quite well without Sandra's experience until she is ready to jump back in. Let her rest, help each other. On the pa-census-lookup list (I am admin), there are so many volunteers that I get home from work and find that all of the queries have been answered already, leaving me no one to help! It was rather disconcerting at first, but now I am so grateful for all of the volunteers Yes, I miss doing lookups and helping others, but am so glad I have so many others who are willing to jump in and take care of questions/queries. Your listmembers need to do the same; stop relying on one person to help you - help each other! Gail List Admin PA-Census-Lookup -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 2:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Missing Sandra I've restrained myself long enough and now feel the need to let loose. Yes, I noticed that Sandra was gone. I thought she'd get mad if I asked about her status on the list. Knowing about her health issues, I hesitated asking, because frankly, I don't need any more bad news in my life. To the people saying less than excellent things about Sandra,------you're so very wrong! Sandra is an excellent list admin, who knows the insides and outs about a place in another state, from where she lives. Sandra has to be the absolute best list admin in the whole of RootsWeb. Sandra has always gone out of her way for people, although the recipients of the new info usually didn't thank her for her work. If I'm correct, Sandra told someone to Google their name. Well, if that's bad advice, then I'm not sure what good advice would be! Good for Sandra, as that's where I got a lot of my family history. Sandra---if you're listening---please come back! We need you! You're the best list admin! To everyone else who has less desirable things to say----lay off! Lorraine -----Original Message----- From: Dora Smith <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Thu, Dec 17, 2009 8:10 pm Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Missing Sandra Folks, with considerable respect, something is up with Sandra. I don't hink her request was appropriate. If this person did not get help, she ad owed no thanks. No ifs, ands or buts about it. Whether she should ave gotten help is a completely different matter. As to whether she hould have blown up at being told only to go google it, I've blown up at hat sort of an attitude myself, many a time. Now, it sounds like Sandra is off dealing with whatever is up with her, and wish her the best of luck. It isn't like her to be inappropriate with eople, and probably she snapped at that person out of whatever stress or llness she is suffering from. The lot of you can't speak as well of ourselves. Now. I got out of the hospital yesterday. I'm getting over a ruptured ppendix. I'm so exhausted my eyes won't stay open. I am DELETING this ntire discussion! It shows considerable restraint on Sandra's part that she HASN'T said nything! Yours, ora Smith ustin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- rom: <[email protected]> o: <[email protected]> ent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 2:44 PM ubject: [PaOldC] Missing Sandra I'm sorry that a simple request for a common courtesy offended this list member. Sandra has always managed the list with a wonderful degree of expertise and patience and helpfulness not found on other genealogical sites. We learn from her dedication and administrative talents, and if we need to be brought into line with a stronger rein, then, for the good of everyone participating, we need to respect her guidance. This list has had LOTS of activity which Sandra handled beautifully, sharing unselfishly her huge wealth of resources. It apparently took only one bad apple to change its character. Thanks, Sandra, and God bless. We miss your contributions and will look forward to your improved health and quick return in 2010. 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I have resisted the urge to write to the list about  this, since my cousin Sandra is quite able to defend herself and her actions.  I knew about the problem when it happened and though I miss her visible presence on the list, I knew she was there behind the scenes since the list was running smoothly even if we were missing her wonderful information for the moment.  I work with Sandra on the Chester County PaGenweb website and have the same problem with rudeness and the sense of entitlement, if that's the way to say it,  that she has, though for some reason, she gets more of it than I do.  I expect anyone who is a list administrator or website organizer gets the same thing.  It goes something like this: You get an email from someone that says something like - "Send me all of the information on ____ family".  Even though it states plainly that we don't do research for others, and there is a section of the website with a list of volunteers and the resources they have to work with, people just don't seem to read.  After explaining that we don't do research for others and that this is not our family so we don't have any information to share, a number of emails usually follow with the writer being sure we're hiding information.  Sometimes they say that we have to help because our name was on 'the list'.  When pressed, they can never seem to remember just what list they saw our name on.  I always ask nicely just where they found my name so I can correct the information, but to date, no one has ever been able to remember where they saw my name.  This exchange of emails usually goes on for several days and in the end is a huge waste of my time (and theirs since they aren't getting any information) and often ends up with a nasty email about me not being helpful. A few of these exchanges in the week can be really frustrating.  I do like to share information - that's what this is all about, but the accusations from these rude, and frankly kind of lazy and expecting others to do their work for them people is enough to make one want to retreat from any helping at all. I hope this helps some for those who haven't had to deal with this sort of situation. Now if you want to talk about Bakers or Flavilles or Cobourns or Scotts of Engels or Calhouns or any number of other of my families who came here starting in 1683, I'd be happy to help. Jane   http://www.hootowlhollow.com http://www.hootowlhollow.blogspot.com   --- On Fri, 12/18/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Missing Sandra To: [email protected] Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 2:28 PM I've restrained myself long enough and now feel the need to let loose.  Yes, I noticed that Sandra was gone. I thought she'd get mad if I asked about her status on the list.  Knowing about her health issues, I hesitated asking, because frankly, I don't need any more bad news in my life.  To the people saying less than excellent things about Sandra,------you're so very wrong!  Sandra is an excellent list admin, who knows the insides and outs about a place in another state, from where she lives.  Sandra has to be the absolute best list admin in the whole of RootsWeb.  Sandra has always gone out of her way for people, although the recipients of the new info usually didn't thank her for her work.  If I'm correct, Sandra told someone to Google their name.  Well, if that's bad advice, then I'm not sure what good advice would be!   Good for Sandra, as that's where I got a lot of my family history. Sandra---if you're listening---please come back!  We need you!  You're the best list admin!  To everyone else who has less desirable things to say----lay off! Lorraine -----Original Message----- From: Dora Smith <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Thu, Dec 17, 2009 8:10 pm Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Missing Sandra Folks, with considerable respect, something is up with Sandra.   I don't hink her request was appropriate.   If this person did not get help, she ad owed no thanks.   No ifs, ands or buts about it.  Whether she should ave gotten help is a completely different matter.    As to whether she hould have blown up at being told only to go google it, I've blown up at hat sort of an attitude myself, many a time. Now, it sounds like Sandra is off dealing with whatever is up with her, and wish her the best of luck.   It isn't like her to be inappropriate with eople, and probably she snapped at that person out of whatever stress or llness she is suffering from.   The lot of you can't speak as well of ourselves. Now.  I got out of the hospital yesterday.   I'm getting over a ruptured ppendix.  I'm so exhausted my eyes won't stay open.   I am DELETING this ntire discussion! It shows considerable restraint on Sandra's part that she HASN'T said nything! Yours, ora Smith ustin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- rom: <[email protected]> o: <[email protected]> ent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 2:44 PM ubject: [PaOldC] Missing Sandra I'm sorry that a simple request for a common courtesy offended this list member. Sandra has always managed the list with a wonderful degree of expertise and patience and helpfulness not found on other genealogical sites. We learn from her dedication and administrative talents, and if we need to be brought into line with a stronger rein, then, for the good of everyone participating, we need to respect her guidance. This list has had LOTS of activity which Sandra handled beautifully, sharing unselfishly her huge wealth of resources. It apparently took only one bad apple to change its character. Thanks, Sandra, and God bless. We miss your contributions and will look forward to your improved health and quick return in 2010. Frances ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've restrained myself long enough and now feel the need to let loose. Yes, I noticed that Sandra was gone. I thought she'd get mad if I asked about her status on the list. Knowing about her health issues, I hesitated asking, because frankly, I don't need any more bad news in my life. To the people saying less than excellent things about Sandra,------you're so very wrong! Sandra is an excellent list admin, who knows the insides and outs about a place in another state, from where she lives. Sandra has to be the absolute best list admin in the whole of RootsWeb. Sandra has always gone out of her way for people, although the recipients of the new info usually didn't thank her for her work. If I'm correct, Sandra told someone to Google their name. Well, if that's bad advice, then I'm not sure what good advice would be! Good for Sandra, as that's where I got a lot of my family history. Sandra---if you're listening---please come back! We need you! You're the best list admin! To everyone else who has less desirable things to say----lay off! Lorraine -----Original Message----- From: Dora Smith <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Thu, Dec 17, 2009 8:10 pm Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Missing Sandra Folks, with considerable respect, something is up with Sandra. I don't hink her request was appropriate. If this person did not get help, she ad owed no thanks. No ifs, ands or buts about it. Whether she should ave gotten help is a completely different matter. As to whether she hould have blown up at being told only to go google it, I've blown up at hat sort of an attitude myself, many a time. Now, it sounds like Sandra is off dealing with whatever is up with her, and wish her the best of luck. It isn't like her to be inappropriate with eople, and probably she snapped at that person out of whatever stress or llness she is suffering from. The lot of you can't speak as well of ourselves. Now. I got out of the hospital yesterday. I'm getting over a ruptured ppendix. I'm so exhausted my eyes won't stay open. I am DELETING this ntire discussion! It shows considerable restraint on Sandra's part that she HASN'T said nything! Yours, ora Smith ustin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- rom: <[email protected]> o: <[email protected]> ent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 2:44 PM ubject: [PaOldC] Missing Sandra I'm sorry that a simple request for a common courtesy offended this list member. Sandra has always managed the list with a wonderful degree of expertise and patience and helpfulness not found on other genealogical sites. We learn from her dedication and administrative talents, and if we need to be brought into line with a stronger rein, then, for the good of everyone participating, we need to respect her guidance. This list has had LOTS of activity which Sandra handled beautifully, sharing unselfishly her huge wealth of resources. It apparently took only one bad apple to change its character. Thanks, Sandra, and God bless. We miss your contributions and will look forward to your improved health and quick return in 2010. Frances ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Thanks to all who have made comments. The list has been stirred, for whatever reason it might have needed stirring. I have not had the opportunity to have any helpful comments from Sandra since I haven't been active myself for several years. I would like to say thanks again to Gail Steckel for the help she gave me several years ago. As for "stuck" for brick wall, I grew up with a family named "Stuckey" Stucke, Stucky being variations so we just have to be careful how we post. I have certainly blown some posts over the years. Furthermore, as a reminder, spellings have changed, old documents are hard to read, transcribers are human. My Michael Claver became Miychal Kleiber and my Elizabeth Beals became Eliza Rails. And my today's posting is anything: Aikins/Akins/Aikin/Akin/Aken/Achen and so on which is perhaps why I can't find much about them in Pennsylvania. James Akins was born 1753 place unknown, died in Penn. & is buried at Old Eagle School Cemetery in Tredyffrin, Chester County. If you run across this family I would appreciate any help. I would like to find James' parents, his wife's maiden name and who were their children. They had two known sons: John Hamilton and Andrew who both went to Ohio and to Iowa. Other than that I am "stuck." Thanks Rose

Greetings, all. I remain puzzled about the wife or wives of Christopher Folkerth ( 1736 - 1816 ).  Here is what I think I know; Christoffel Volckerth arrived in Philadelphia in 1754 on the ship Brothers at age 18, unaccompanied by any others of that name. By the 1770s Christopher Folkerth is found as witness to several wills in Chester County. Christopher had a son, named John.  The bible of John Folkerth and Peggy Huey, found in the Dayton, Ohio, library, says that John's mother was named Pamelia ( or Camelia, as a correction was attempted ) Rafesnider. This means Pamelia/Camelia  was Christopher's wife ca 1774. In 1790 Christopher Folkerth and his wife, Margaret, sell some land in Chester County.  The family seems to have been in the process of moving to Frederick County, Maryland, as they are found there in later census records. The 1815 will of Christopher names 'Margaret' as his wife. He then died in 1816.   So I conclude that Christopher was  married ( at least ) two times; to Pamelia/Camelia Rafesnider and to Margaret ‘Unknown’.   Christopher had five other children that we know about; Catherine and Henry probably were born before John, while William, Samuel and my ancestor, Michael, probably were born after John.   I am searching for any information about the marriage of Christopher Folkerth to Pamelia/Camelia Rafesnider.  Alternate spellings of both surnames are cheerfully accepted.  I am also searching for information about the marriage of Christopher Folkerth to Margaret ‘Unknown’.  Both marriages probably were in Chester County, the first between 1760 and 1770 and the second after 1774.   In addition, I can’t positively say that these were Christopher’s only marriages in Chester County … so any Chester marriage data between 1754 and 1790 for someone named Christopher Folkerth, or a close variation, would be appreciated.   One more thing; Christopher’s son Henry married Margaret Schmid(t) in 1788 in Chester County and this Margaret has sometimes been confused with the Margaret Unknown who was the w/o Christopher.  Thanks in advance for any suggestions. DICK FOLKERTH Dallas ps  Yes, I have googled.  More than once ...

I don't have any records on any Lewis Townsend but you might find him by looking at some other Townsends of the same era and place. Here are some miscellaneous Townsends I've found over the years: Mary Townsend, b. ? m. Joseph Yarnall (b. 1697) in 1735/1736, son of Francis Yarnall and Hannah Baker (of Willistown) Rebecca Townsend, b. ?; m. Daniel Mercer (b. 1714; d. 6-25-1807), son of Thomas Mercer III and Hannah Taylor Hannah Townsend, b. ? m. Isaac Vernon Jr. - their daughter Catherine m. Phineas Mendenhall (b. 1741 in Bradford Twp.) Mary Townsend, b. ? m. Isaac Thomas (b. 1721), son of Peter Thomas and Elizabeth Goodwin (looks like they may have lived in Willistown) Sarah Townsend, daughter of John and Johanna Townsend was born 1742/3 and d. 1-13-1777; m. Amos House, son of James House and Mary Richardson Joseph Painter, b. ?; d. about 1751; m. Hannah Painter, b. about 1751; d. 1784, daughter of Samuel Painter and Esther Gilpin, Friends Joseph Townsend, b. 1763; d. 1808, m. Sinah Walker and had at least one child, Lydia P. Townsend (b. 1802 in Chester Co.) who m. Jesse Sydenham Baily in Beaver Falls, Pa. Martha Townsend, b. ? m. Robert Lamborn and they had at least one child, Mary Jones Lamborn b. about 1785 - she m. Moses Pennock, a Friend Mary Townsend, b. 1753; m. 1777 in Birmingham meeting to Jesse Jones, son of Cadwallader Jones Jr. and Mary Gatlief John Townsend, b. 1780 in Penna; d. about 1863 and b. in New Garden FBG, m. Hannah Warner (1787-1834) and had at least one child, Eliza Townsend, b. 1809 m. Nathan Wickersham - all Friends Lydia Y. Townsend, b. 1780 in Pennsylvania (perhaps Chester) m. Jonathan Mendenhall (b. 1777 in Guilford Co., NC) but son of Moses Mendenhall and Sarah Howell of Bradford Twp., Chester Co. Mary Townsend, b. about 1790 m. Joseph James (living in Delaware county in 1860 and 1870) Looking at all these odds and ends, it looks like there are a number of Quakers, many Welsh names, and a lot of folks with ties to townships along the Chester/Delaware count line and stretching into the Welsh tract (incl. Valley Forge).  That said, I also have records of mid-18th century Quaker Townsends in New York and non-Quaker Townsends who m. ex-Quakers down in Patrick County, Virginia in the 18th century. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "A R Townsend" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 2:57:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Brickwalls in old Chester: Dodd My brickwall in "old Chester" seems to be ancestors of my 4th Great-grandfather, Lewis TOWNSEND, b. 1784 in Penna. (Chester Co??), m.Deborah EACHUS in March (20th) 1806. They are living in Tredyffrin Twp. with one child in 1810 census. Lewis d. 1814 (Admin 22 Jun 1814). Son Ro(d)ger David is my 3rd Great-grandfather. Family later found in Charlestown Twp. Any help with Lewis would be appreciated. Happy Holidays! Alan Townsend ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Crocker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 12:27 PM Subject: [PaOldC] Brickwalls in old Chester: Dodd

Hello, A source I have found alot of info and great books about Pennsylvania and early Pa folks is University of Pennsylvania's digital book collection "PA's Past". The web address I have is https://secureapps.libraries.psu.edu/digitalbookshelf/index.cfm Lately it seems links I send do no always work, if this link does not work, I'm sorry, but I am sure if you google University of Pennsylvania digital bookshelf, Pa's past a web address will come up. sincerely, Peg

Sandra is the list owner, and she doesn't have to take any action. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Scheu" <[email protected]> To: "Tim Robinson" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [PaOldC] No action on List......Why? > Tim, > > Thank you for voicing what many of us have been feeling. > > And Sandra, > > We do so value you and your contributions. You have always made speedy, > knowledgeable and sensitive responses to all of us, whether we deserved > them or not. Whether rudeness and lack of appreciation have been the > causes of your absence or not, we hope you'll soon be back. And we hope > you know how much we need you! > > Lynn Scheu > > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Tim Robinson <[email protected]> >>Sent: Dec 14, 2009 11:10 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: [PaOldC] No action on List......Why? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> List member's Pa-Old Chester, >> >> Here it is right near Christmas and this list has been like the dead >>zone for a few month's. And why????? >> No one has asked or wondered out loud on here as to where our >>List Administrator has disappeared to. A very helpful one at that! >> I know myself and have kept off the list by not wanting to accuse >>anyone of causing this action. But I think something needs to be >>said about it. >>Somebody, and you know who you are, gave her a "hard way to >>go" about how she was running the list. And from that "slap in the >>face" she decided to take herself off answering people's posts. So >>I hope that the person who thought they knew how OUR list was >>run and didn't approve of how Sandra performed her rightful duties >>as list administrator, can feel responsible for their actions. >>There was not another administrator on any of these mail lists that >>was as helpful and knowledgable as Sandra has been for us. I do >>miss her very much on here and I hope that at some point she will >>return the Old-Pa List back to a real good functioning genealogy >>forum as it once was. >> >> Thanks for listening............ >> >> Timothy L. Robinson >> Catonsville, Baltimore >> Maryland. >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Folks, with considerable respect, something is up with Sandra. I don't think her request was appropriate. If this person did not get help, she had owed no thanks. No ifs, ands or buts about it. Whether she should have gotten help is a completely different matter. As to whether she should have blown up at being told only to go google it, I've blown up at that sort of an attitude myself, many a time. Now, it sounds like Sandra is off dealing with whatever is up with her, and I wish her the best of luck. It isn't like her to be inappropriate with people, and probably she snapped at that person out of whatever stress or illness she is suffering from. The lot of you can't speak as well of yourselves. Now. I got out of the hospital yesterday. I'm getting over a ruptured appendix. I'm so exhausted my eyes won't stay open. I am DELETING this entire discussion! It shows considerable restraint on Sandra's part that she HASN'T said anything! Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 2:44 PM Subject: [PaOldC] Missing Sandra > > I'm sorry that a simple request for a common courtesy offended this list > member. Sandra has always managed the list with a wonderful degree of > expertise and patience and helpfulness not found on other genealogical > sites. We learn from her dedication and administrative talents, and if we > need to be brought into line with a stronger rein, then, for the good of > everyone participating, we need to respect her guidance. This list has had > LOTS of activity which Sandra handled beautifully, sharing unselfishly her > huge wealth of resources. It apparently took only one bad apple to change > its character. Thanks, Sandra, and God bless. We miss your contributions > and will look forward to your improved health and quick return in 2010. > Frances > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't mean to sound like an old fuddyduddy, but avid genealogists long ago were advised to not use the words brick wall in their posts. Imagine if you are searching for the surname Brick or Wall how many hits you would get that have absolutely relevance to your search! Perhaps it might be better to say "stuck on" - I don't think stuck (by itself) is a very likely surname! (although you never know for sure) ....just a word to the wise... -----Original Message----- From: Anne Crocker [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 12:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PaOldC] Brickwalls in old Chester: Dodd Good idea to post brickwalls again! One or more simultaneous appearances of the name William Dodd can be found in townships around the Concord/Thornbury/Kennett area always as a Freeman 1718-25 and then from ca 1730 (one report that I haven't seen but that was sent to me) through 1740. Since my William Dodd later seems to have had a lot of carpentry tools and was possibly a shoemaker, it just might be possible that he was an itinerant journeyman moving through adjacent townships plying his trade. There are no other Dodd variant surnames on taxlists in Chester during this period. I am left wondering which of these is my William Dodd, non-Quaker until he applied and joined with wife Catherine in 1746 in Northern Neck, VA, Fairfax MM. From deeds I know that he was "lately of PA" when he moved to VA ca late 1740. The births of his children, to gauge from their marriages or the first appearance of the sons on VA docs and taxlists, would be from ca 1725, nicely coinciding with the Chester taxlists, assuming he married after his last "freeman" designation in 1725. I appeal to all of you to tell me if you see any references to a Dodd/ Dod/Dodds/Dods/Dood or Dadd surname in any states/counties close to Chester during ca 1715-1745. Oral histories say that William Dodd had two wives, so if anyone in Chester has a lost daughter possibly accused of marrying out ca 1725 I'd love to know. And if your families moved from Chester and adjacent counties down to Hopewell or Fairfax MM, perhaps my talking with you would help me discover more about my William Dodd. Happy Holidays to you all and don't forget to order some DNA kits before FamilyTreeDNA.com's December sale is over. Anne Crocker Concord, NC ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I read it right, Dottie, even with the missing word, simply by the context. Most people probably got it too. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PaOldC] previous post on inactive list - oops Oops, sorry, I left out a little three letter word that means a lot to my previous message, just re-read it. One sentence should have read........This list has been gratefully helpful to me over the past 9 years, yes, people sometimes get their feelings hurt, however, this list is NOT intended to hold your hand and solve your research for you, it is for you to be able to find information and learn and to help other people....... Sorry it was misunderstood. Dottie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It looks like the farm in Chester County may have been in Birmingham Twp. http://books.google.com/books?id=rRUUAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA657&lpg=PA657&dq=%22john+ crye%22%22chester+county%22&source=bl&ots=bZwjEdE-Mn&sig=L6cVLlcUVMljdHLc3y9 lcwghJpU&hl=en&ei=Ra8qS9-UDc6m8Aai_qWPBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnu m=6&ved=0CBwQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=%22john%20crye%22%22chester%20county%22&f=fa lse Donna -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gma Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PaOldC] brick Wall Crye Yes, I have a brick wall. I have a William Crye who was born 1752 in the IOM and came with his family to Chester Co. PA and grew up. He moved sometime befiore 1775 to Mecklinburg Co. NC where he married and served in the Rev. War. Info on where he was raised came from his Rev. War papers. I have searched, had people search, and querried for years regarding this William Crye. His father was John. The Rev. War papers state he lived on a farm. I find nothing to place them in Chester Co. PA. I have thought about the county line thing and have looked in Lancaster, Deleware, ect,. but continue to find nothing. Have even thought with the Irish brogue possibly the name might have been pronounced and spelled Craigh, but again, find nothing. William was one of the older children of a family of 7, and I continue to find nothing on this Crye name. 1775 forward I have them traced, 1775 backward is a road block. Where are suggestions to look? I could use a Christmas break here. ha ag ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggie Shaw" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:18 AM Subject: [PaOldC] list administrator thread > > Hello, I have been inactive on this list for quite sometime. I agree > Sandra is a good list administrator and I am sorry to hear of her health > issues. I trust she is doing what she needs to do to take care of herself. > I do hope she is able to get back to responding to list posts. > > I think most of us understand the other issues that have come up, list > members rudeness, Sandra's not sugar coated honesty and other > misunderstandings. Some of us have differing opinions. So be it. > > I think what Sandra would say is, this list is for research assistance, > sharing of knowledge and comradery on the subject of the peoples and > history of Old Chester County! > > So lets get on with what Sandra taught us about, Genealogy. > > Any brick walls?? > > Sincerely, > > Peggie Shaw > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The following website appears to have info on the Crye family you are looking for. http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/s/h/a/Michael-P-Shaver/FILE/0011t ext.txt Donna -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gma Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PaOldC] brick Wall Crye Yes, I have a brick wall. I have a William Crye who was born 1752 in the IOM and came with his family to Chester Co. PA and grew up. He moved sometime befiore 1775 to Mecklinburg Co. NC where he married and served in the Rev. War. Info on where he was raised came from his Rev. War papers. I have searched, had people search, and querried for years regarding this William Crye. His father was John. The Rev. War papers state he lived on a farm. I find nothing to place them in Chester Co. PA. I have thought about the county line thing and have looked in Lancaster, Deleware, ect,. but continue to find nothing. Have even thought with the Irish brogue possibly the name might have been pronounced and spelled Craigh, but again, find nothing. William was one of the older children of a family of 7, and I continue to find nothing on this Crye name. 1775 forward I have them traced, 1775 backward is a road block. Where are suggestions to look? I could use a Christmas break here. ha ag ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggie Shaw" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:18 AM Subject: [PaOldC] list administrator thread > > Hello, I have been inactive on this list for quite sometime. I agree > Sandra is a good list administrator and I am sorry to hear of her health > issues. I trust she is doing what she needs to do to take care of herself. > I do hope she is able to get back to responding to list posts. > > I think most of us understand the other issues that have come up, list > members rudeness, Sandra's not sugar coated honesty and other > misunderstandings. Some of us have differing opinions. So be it. > > I think what Sandra would say is, this list is for research assistance, > sharing of knowledge and comradery on the subject of the peoples and > history of Old Chester County! > > So lets get on with what Sandra taught us about, Genealogy. > > Any brick walls?? > > Sincerely, > > Peggie Shaw > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There's a bit on him in this website: Cryes in North America-- http://members.tripod.com/~Archaeology/crye.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gma" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:36 PM Subject: [PaOldC] brick Wall Crye > Yes, I have a brick wall. > > I have a William Crye who was born 1752 in the IOM and came with his > family > to Chester Co. PA and grew up. He moved sometime befiore 1775 to > Mecklinburg Co. NC where he married and served in the Rev. War. Info on > where he was raised came from his Rev. War papers. I have searched, had > people search, and querried for years regarding this William Crye. His > father was John. The Rev. War papers state he lived on a farm. I find > nothing to place them in Chester Co. PA. > > I have thought about the county line thing and have looked in Lancaster, > Deleware, ect,. but continue to find nothing. Have even thought with the > Irish brogue possibly the name might have been pronounced and spelled > Craigh, but again, find nothing. William was one of the older children of > a > family of 7, and I continue to find nothing on this Crye name. 1775 > forward > I have them traced, 1775 backward is a road block. > > Where are suggestions to look? I could use a Christmas break here. ha > ag

My James AKINS 1753-1827 buried at Old Eagle Cemetery Tredyffrin, Chester County, PA I do not know where he was born or who were his parents. He married to Rosanna maiden name unknown. They had two known children: Andrew and John Hamilton. John Hamilton became known as John H. Aikins born in Montgomery County, moved to Delaware County, OHIO, died in Marion County, Iowa. He was a shoemaker. He had 11 children, five died and buried at Tredyffrin. Looking for James birth place and parents. Thank You!! Rose

Hello, I have been inactive on this list for quite sometime. I agree Sandra is a good list administrator and I am sorry to hear of her health issues. I trust she is doing what she needs to do to take care of herself. I do hope she is able to get back to responding to list posts. I think most of us understand the other issues that have come up, list members rudeness, Sandra's not sugar coated honesty and other misunderstandings. Some of us have differing opinions. So be it. I think what Sandra would say is, this list is for research assistance, sharing of knowledge and comradery on the subject of the peoples and history of Old Chester County! So lets get on with what Sandra taught us about, Genealogy. Any brick walls?? Sincerely, Peggie Shaw

My brickwall in "old Chester" seems to be ancestors of my 4th Great-grandfather, Lewis TOWNSEND, b. 1784 in Penna. (Chester Co??), m.Deborah EACHUS in March (20th) 1806. They are living in Tredyffrin Twp. with one child in 1810 census. Lewis d. 1814 (Admin 22 Jun 1814). Son Ro(d)ger David is my 3rd Great-grandfather. Family later found in Charlestown Twp. Any help with Lewis would be appreciated. Happy Holidays! Alan Townsend ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Crocker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 12:27 PM Subject: [PaOldC] Brickwalls in old Chester: Dodd > Good idea to post brickwalls again! > > One or more simultaneous appearances of the name William Dodd can be > found in townships around the Concord/Thornbury/Kennett area always as > a Freeman 1718-25 and then from ca 1730 (one report that I haven't > seen but that was sent to me) through 1740. Since my William Dodd > later seems to have had a lot of carpentry tools and was possibly a > shoemaker, it just might be possible that he was an itinerant > journeyman moving through adjacent townships plying his trade. > > There are no other Dodd variant surnames on taxlists in Chester during > this period. I am left wondering which of these is my William Dodd, > non-Quaker until he applied and joined with wife Catherine in 1746 in > Northern Neck, VA, Fairfax MM. From deeds I know that he was "lately > of PA" when he moved to VA ca late 1740. The births of his children, > to gauge from their marriages or the first appearance of the sons on > VA docs and taxlists, would be from ca 1725, nicely coinciding with > the Chester taxlists, assuming he married after his last "freeman" > designation in 1725. > > I appeal to all of you to tell me if you see any references to a Dodd/ > Dod/Dodds/Dods/Dood or Dadd surname in any states/counties close to > Chester during ca 1715-1745. Oral histories say that William Dodd had > two wives, so if anyone in Chester has a lost daughter possibly > accused of marrying out ca 1725 I'd love to know. > > And if your families moved from Chester and adjacent counties down to > Hopewell or Fairfax MM, perhaps my talking with you would help me > discover more about my William Dodd. > > Happy Holidays to you all and don't forget to order some DNA kits > before FamilyTreeDNA.com's December sale is over. > > Anne Crocker > Concord, NC > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Although Gail was kind enough to pass on information about Abraham Maxwell (a Blacksmith in West Chester) having served in the War of 1812, I'm still trying to secure documentation (or source leads) on his family:   wife - Rachel (Bingman-Welch ?) son - Jacob (b. 1817) dau.- Esther (b. 1822) parents - ??? (I believe Abraham died in 1829)   Any advice or help is greatfully appreciated.   Tom Maxwell Whitelock

My greatgrandfather John C. Jackson was born in Pennsylvania in about 1815, of unnamed parents who were from Canada, according to 19th Century Cesus data. Family papers at the time of his death (no longer available) say that he was from "Chester, Chester County, PA". I suspect his parents were, or had been, Quakers who went to Canada right after the Revolution, but who returned to the PA, DE, MD area by 1788. My suspicion was that he was a son of a Thomas Jackson, born in New Brunswick (then Nova Scotia) in 1788, during the family exile, but whose birth was recorded in the New Garden Monthly (Friends) Meeting Minutes book. But there seems to be nothing written down anywhere that directly connects my GGF to this Thomas, or to any other early 19th Century Chester County Jackson. And many experts  from this List (including Sandy). and from the QUAKER ROOTS List have tried to find this missing link for me. Nothing yet! Drat!!! Bob Wilson Beaufort SC .