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    1. Re: [PaOldC] A Holiday Query For the PA Old Chester List
    2. Dora Smith
    3. Eggless butterless milkless cake? That's not thrift, it's stupidity - or starvation. Cake with no ingredients but flour, sugar, and water - a recipe for one or other blood sugar crisis. How many people eating this on a regular basis lived past middle age? Or didn't they? If it was only cake, and they were thrifty, and Quaker, maybe they didn't eat alot of cake? My mother, not Quaker, but seriously thrifty, let us eat cake only when it was someone's birthday. When we got home from school we cuold have four small cookies, and that was it for sweets. Our diet didn't quite match the food pyramid even then, but we got three glasses a day of milk, a serving of veggies, sometiems two, a serving of fruit, three servings of protein EVERY day, and one with each meal, and only moderate amounts of fats and carbohydrates. In fact, we had one serving of carbs with each meal except two with lunch. We ate better than classmates whose parents made the same income. Failing to put milk, eggs and butter in the cake would not have occurred to my mother; she'd probably have thought it was throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Now, I know they ate a little strangely in those days - lots of beef, pork, pork fat, eggs; cornmeal, bread, their estate inventories never seeemed to have heard of a vegetable - but cake with no milk, eggs or butter? Uh-huh. Yup. Uh-huh. I'm going to have to go over on the Quaker research list and find uot who if anyone was eating this stuff. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Spangrude" <[email protected]> To: "Sandra Ferguson" <[email protected]>; "PaOldChester" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 3:09 PM Subject: [PaOldC] A Holiday Query For the PA Old Chester List > Well said, well said, my friend. OK here is a change of subject: > > Dear List Members, > > During the holidays I am so always very busy preparing large family > meals, making menus, compiling lists of who to invite including > extended family and friends, who I will ask to bring side dishes, and > where everyone will be seated. It is a busy but very fulfilling time > of the year, and satisfying in terms of making memories and traditions > for the young ones who are looking forward to the food and presents. > > My own memories always travel back to traditions my family had when I > was a child, such as the traditional and thrift-conscious "eggless > butterless milkless cake" that many generations of Townsend women, > both Quaker and non-Quaker, made through the years. It makes me > wonder what else was on the table of my ancestors, and who were > invited to partake in the family meal, say in the year 1790, after the > Revolutionary War when the country was young and there was much > excitement to be had. A couple of years ago another list I belong to > started a fun thread that went along these lines: If you could invite > any of your deceased ancestors to your holiday gathering, 1) who would > it be, 2) why would you invite this person in particular, and 3) what > would you ask them that you have been wanting to know about them, or > an aspect of their life? > > Just choose one ancestor and give a bit of background info (dates, > places, spouse, children, why they may be a mystery) when you answer > the above question - then send it to the list. When I first took part > in this a couple of years ago, it generated quite a bit of new > information for the list and was great holiday fun. I will contribute > my answer after we all hear from some of you. > > Blessed holidays to all, > > Kim Townsend Spangrude > On Dec 20, 2009, at 1:47 PM, Sandra Ferguson wrote: > >> Friends....as I said to you all earlier, my current health problem >> dictates that I not upset myself unnecessarily at this time, but I >> have >> been made aware, personally, by several of you, that some are >> unhappy with >> the list leadership, etc....I am asking that you remember the >> season and >> act accordingly.......fingers crossed, I will again be up to my >> 'fighting >> weight' and able to once more be involved in one of my great >> loves....genealogy.... When that day arrives I will visit the >> archives, read >> the old posts I have missed, and answer them accordingly. Till >> then, as >> always, post ONLY things that directly involve genealogy , and >> help your >> fellow listmembers with their research... is that so hard to do? For >> goodness sake...it's Christmas! >> >> S. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/21/2009 09:54:00
    1. [PaOldC] Cadwallader WATKINS, emigrated c. 1700 --- XMAS 2009 invitation
    2. Lisa Grimes
    3. If you could invite any of your deceased ancestors to your holiday gathering, 1) who would it be, 2) why would you invite this person in particular, and 3) what would you ask them that you have been wanting to know about them, or an aspect of their life? ==================================== GREAT IDEA!! *S* I would invite Cadwallader WATKINS, who immigrated to old Chester Co., PA.... with his minor son, Robert, in about 1700. This one Welsh ancestor...is definitely a puzzle, as we have never known who his late wife was. Not even her name. Nor have we known, "for sure", where in Wales he immigrated from. Our best guess has been Dolghallau ("Doe-Golly"), in an area that starts with "Men...", but as far as I am currently aware, none of my many cousins have actually found the evidence for this. My 10 questions to my 4 x great great grandfather would be: 1. Who were your parents? 2. Was WATKINS your actual surname...or were you actually Cadwallader ap Watkins (ap Walter) ?? 3. Did you have siblings? If so, what were their names, spouse's names, and their children's names? 3. Where, in Wales, were you born? 4. What was your wife's name? a. Her family's information? b. When did you marry? c. Where did you marry? d. Did she die before immigrating, if so when/where? Or on the ship coming over? 5. Where, EXACTLY, in Wales did you immigrate from? 6. What was the reason for immigrating? 7. You lived in a predominantly Quaker village, in PA with Wm Penn as a neighbor. Were you actually a Quaker? If so, we have not found that evidence....yet. 8. Since you were a PA land owner, what was your occupation, in addition to being a farmer? 9. What were your interests, and were you what is considered as...."handy"?? 10. What was your son, Robert's wife's name, and were her parents your close neighbors? Our HYPOTHESIS is that her maiden name was...RHYS (REESE), but that is just a question. Happy Holidays....to everyone, Lisa

    12/21/2009 07:31:43
    1. Re: [PaOldC] Stephenson MINOR
    2. 1860 census for Spring Creek Twp., Elk County lists 'Stephen' as b. in Penna. Stephen Miner: 43, b. in PA as were the wife and kids, $500 Real Estate, $300 Personal Estate, Lumberman Mary C.: 23 Orville: 18 Matilda: 3 Peter: 2 Andrew 2/12 James Graham: 37, Day Laborer Patty Crow: 17, b. in PA, Servant preceding household was a Thompson Crow, 25, Day Laborer, b. in PA 1820 census index lists 18 Miners and 8 Minors in Pennsylvania so you've got some winnowing to do.  If he owned the land in Spring Creek then a search of the land records in Elk County might have a deed listing him with  his prior residence ...  That would help narrow the search. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "linda.lathrop @ yahoo.com" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 12:29:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [PaOldC] My Brick Wall I don't think I have ever posted here but I may have awhile ago. I am researching the Minor family. My mother was Joan Rosemary Minor, daughter of Warren Xavier Minor & Helen Olson, born in Ridgeway and raised in Bradford, PA. Warren Xavier Minor born in Ridgeway, PA His father was a well-known architect and builder in that area named: William Henry Minor who was married to His father was Stephen/Stephenson Lesie Minor who was married to Rachel Crow who died of TB. Stephen's second wife was Mary Ann Chamberlain. He had 3 children by Rachel and 9 by Mary Ann Chamberlain, daughter of Jacob and MaryAnn Chamberlain. Stephenson was born Jan 10, 1820 and died in a barn raising accident on July 8, 1870 in Jefferson County, PA. One of his sons died 2 days later and we assume he was invovled in the accident also. Family lore says that Stephenson was from Scotland and others say he was born in PA. Another thought is that he might be the son of John Updike Minor and Rebecca Maxwell, but I have no proof of this. Are there any Minors here or does any of this sound familiar to anyone? Thanks for any help. Linda Hooker Lathrop   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/21/2009 07:19:47
    1. [PaOldC] Williamson
    2. Chandler Eavenson
    3. I have posted this info in years past but am reposting since various Williamson queries are appearing. My 5th great grandfather George Eavenson (Joseph, Thomas, Ralph), born 11 mo 8, 1726/7, died 4 mo 30, 1816, of Thornbury, Chester Co., married Mary Williamson on 28 Sep 1755 at Old Swedes Church. I have never proved with any certainty the identity of her parents. In the book "A Brief Lineage of the Descendants of William Williamson of Thornbury Twp., Chester Co., PA", pub 1884 Philadelphia, it is indicated that Mary Williamson, daughter of Daniel Williamson, Jr. and Hannah Malin, and wife of George Eavenson, died 7 2 1828, age 99 years and 10 months. However, various researchers have sent info to the LDS indicating that Mary Williamson was the daughter of Thomas Williamson (brother of Daniel, Jr.) and wife Ann Malin, the said Mary having been born 29 May 1726 and died 7 Jul 1828. I tend to believe that Mary was the daughter of Daniel, Jr. and Hannah Malin as that version was contained on an Eavenson genealogy chart prepared by an Eavenson family of the Philadelphia area in the early 1900s and I have proof that some of this family had been consulting Gilbert Cope, co-author of the History of Chester Co., about their family lines. The chart indicates that the children of George Eavenson and Mary Williamson were, in order of birth: 1. Catherine, m. Levi Massey; 2. Joseph, m. Ann Yearsley; 3. Eli, m. Rachel Seal; 4. Thomas; 5. Jesse;6. Hannah; and 7. Richard, m. Lydia Jones. My ancestors were Eli and Rachel Seal Eavenson who moved to Elbert Co., GA ca 1790. Chandler Eavenson Sautee Nacoochee, GA [email protected]

    12/21/2009 05:49:25
    1. Re: [PaOldC] [Williamson branch
    2. Adam's Mom
    3. Hi George, This is beautiful stuff! Thank you! While I can't yet link Hiram's line (from my mom's mother's side,) the Sarah (Smedley) Williamson line connects with my Brintons and Speakmans (my dad's mother's side,) and Abigail Williamson connects with my Henton/Yarnall line (my mom's father's side!) I think I'm my own cousin, several times removed! ROFL! In peace, MaryAnn On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 6:50 AM, George Smedley <[email protected]>wrote: > If you can link any of your Williamsons to Sarah let me know > > #5 SARAH SMEDLEY (George),b.Middletown,8 mo.12,1694;d.Newtown,5 > mo.29,1789;m.12 mo.,1714,John Williamson,b.7mo.11,1690; d.Newtown,1760;son > of Daniel and Mary (Smith) Williamson,of Newtown. Issue: > 32 Mary,b.10 mo.11,1715;d.?;m.Abraham Hoopes. > 33 Sarah,b.5 mo.28,1718;d.?;m.Thomas Calvert. > 34 Margaret,b.10 mo.17,1719;d.?;m.John Brinton. > 35 Alice,b.4 mo.22,1721;d.4 mo.25,1812;m.Benanuel Lownes and John > Buckley. > 36 Esther,b.2 mo.22,1723;d.before 1768;m.Samuel Mendenhall. > 37 Jane,b.6 mo.30,1725;d.11 mo.,1797;Robert Regester and Abel > Green. > 38 John,b.1 mo.21,1727-8;d.11 mo.11,1794;m.Elizabeth Buckley. > 39 Daniel,b.9 mo.10,1732;d.Marple,4 mo.1805;unmarried.By his > will,dated April 3,1805,proven April 11,1805,he gave to his > niece,Esther Garrett,some money willed to him by his > mother,together with his bed,bedding,and all other effects,and > appointed her husband,Jonah Garrett,executor.... >

    12/21/2009 04:53:14
    1. [PaOldC] Who would I invite to dinner
    2. Gma
    3. Kim, good post. I would invite my grandfather Edward Geohring/Goehring/Gerring/Geren. He was born ca 1855-65, and was told to be German, was killed/died ca 1895 in Alabama. No records of this man exist today that I have found. I would love to invite him to dinner and pick his brain. ag

    12/21/2009 04:29:08
    1. Re: [PaOldC] brick Wall Crye
    2. Gma
    3. Thank you all so much for the leads on my William Crye. Your generosity of time is very kind. ag ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna P" <[email protected]> To: "'Gma'" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:18 PM Subject: RE: [PaOldC] brick Wall Crye > The following website appears to have info on the Crye family you are > looking for. > > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/s/h/a/Michael-P-Shaver/FILE/0011t > ext.txt > > Donna > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gma > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:36 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [PaOldC] brick Wall Crye > > Yes, I have a brick wall. > > I have a William Crye who was born 1752 in the IOM and came with his > family > to Chester Co. PA and grew up. He moved sometime befiore 1775 to > Mecklinburg Co. NC where he married and served in the Rev. War. Info on > where he was raised came from his Rev. War papers. I have searched, had > people search, and querried for years regarding this William Crye. His > father was John. The Rev. War papers state he lived on a farm. I find > nothing to place them in Chester Co. PA. > > I have thought about the county line thing and have looked in Lancaster, > Deleware, ect,. but continue to find nothing. Have even thought with the > Irish brogue possibly the name might have been pronounced and spelled > Craigh, but again, find nothing. William was one of the older children of > a > > family of 7, and I continue to find nothing on this Crye name. 1775 > forward > > I have them traced, 1775 backward is a road block. > > Where are suggestions to look? I could use a Christmas break here. ha > ag > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peggie Shaw" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:18 AM > Subject: [PaOldC] list administrator thread > > >> >> Hello, I have been inactive on this list for quite sometime. I agree >> Sandra is a good list administrator and I am sorry to hear of her health >> issues. I trust she is doing what she needs to do to take care of >> herself. > >> I do hope she is able to get back to responding to list posts. >> >> I think most of us understand the other issues that have come up, list >> members rudeness, Sandra's not sugar coated honesty and other >> misunderstandings. Some of us have differing opinions. So be it. >> >> I think what Sandra would say is, this list is for research assistance, >> sharing of knowledge and comradery on the subject of the peoples and >> history of Old Chester County! >> >> So lets get on with what Sandra taught us about, Genealogy. >> >> Any brick walls?? >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Peggie Shaw >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    12/21/2009 04:00:39
    1. Re: [PaOldC] [Williamson branch
    2. George Smedley
    3. If you can link any of your Williamsons to Sarah let me know #5 SARAH SMEDLEY (George),b.Middletown,8 mo.12,1694;d.Newtown,5 mo.29,1789;m.12 mo.,1714,John Williamson,b.7mo.11,1690; d.Newtown,1760;son of Daniel and Mary (Smith) Williamson,of Newtown. Issue: 32 Mary,b.10 mo.11,1715;d.?;m.Abraham Hoopes. 33 Sarah,b.5 mo.28,1718;d.?;m.Thomas Calvert. 34 Margaret,b.10 mo.17,1719;d.?;m.John Brinton. 35 Alice,b.4 mo.22,1721;d.4 mo.25,1812;m.Benanuel Lownes and John Buckley. 36 Esther,b.2 mo.22,1723;d.before 1768;m.Samuel Mendenhall. 37 Jane,b.6 mo.30,1725;d.11 mo.,1797;Robert Regester and Abel Green. 38 John,b.1 mo.21,1727-8;d.11 mo.11,1794;m.Elizabeth Buckley. 39 Daniel,b.9 mo.10,1732;d.Marple,4 mo.1805;unmarried.By his will,dated April 3,1805,proven April 11,1805,he gave to his niece,Esther Garrett,some money willed to him by his mother,together with his bed,bedding,and all other effects,and appointed her husband,Jonah Garrett,executor. At Chester Monthly Meeting,27 of 10 mo.1714:John Williamson and Sarah Smedley declared their intentions of marriage.John Maris and William Lewis,Elthew Goldin and Sarah Minshall were appointed to make inquirey as to their clearness of other engagements.At the next meeting, 11 mo.31st,nothing appeared to obstruct,they were given liberty to proceed,and Aaron James and Daniel Hoopes,Elthew Goldin and Sarah Minshall were appointed to see that their marriage was accomplished orderly.12 mo.28th,"The two friends that were appointed to attend the marriage of John Williamson Reports that they saw nothing but that things were indeferent well." THE WILLIAMSON FAMILY In the account of the sufferings of Friends in Cheshire,Eng.,we read that in November,1663,Thomas Buckley,Dorothy Deane,William Burtonwood and Ellen Williamson were imprisoned by Writs de Excommunicato capiendo upon Prosecutions in the Ecclesiastical Court for Tithes.In 1683,Thomas Williamson and others were committed to prison for being at a meeting at Newton. On the 31st of the Month called January,Thomas Needham and Philip Egerton,Justices,came to a Meeting at Newton,and finding a Person at Prayer,Justice Needham fell upon him,beat him on the Head, and punched him on the Breast with his Cane,pulled his Neckcloth in pieces,and threw him down and kicked him.He also struck several others so that their Heads were swelled with the Blows.The other Justices desired him to forbear,saying,Let us prosecute the Law upon them,but not abuse them. Thus checked he forbore striking,but continued railing,telling them they were Dogs and no Men,no more Christians than their Horses,&c.Then they took their Names,fined them,and granted Warrants for Distress,by which was taken from John Williamson of Creewood-hall,a mare worth,Lb.8.&c. Daniel Williamson came from Cheshire to Pennsylvania,in 1652,as a servant with Robert Taylor,of Little Leigh,in that county,whose daughter he calls "cousin" in his will.His sister Ellen (also written Helen and Eleanor,) was married to Bartholomew Coppock,of High Leigh,and another sister,Mary,was the wife of John Howell,of Budworth,all in Cheshire. Howell and wife came over in 1683,in company with Robert Taylor's wife and children,and settled in Marple township.Bartholomew Coppock and wife settled in Springfield.By agreement with Robert Taylor,Daniel Williamson was to receive 50 acres of land for his services,in addition to the 50 acres granted by Penn to servants.The whole 100 acres were laid out Oct. 22,1683,by warrant of Oct.20,1683,along with 300 acres,the purchase of John Howell,in Marple,and all patented to Howell July 25,1684.The latter,by a codicil to his will,directed his executors to confirm the 100 acres to Daniel Williamson,to whom it was subsequently patented,Jan.10,1708. Among the passengers on the "Endeavour," of London,George Thorp, master,which arrived here the 29th of 7 mo.,1683,beside the Howells and Taylors above mentioned,were Thomas Pearson and Margery his wife,the grandparents of Benjamin West,who came from Pownall,in Cheshire;also John Pearson,his brother,and Mary Smith,his wife's sister.These two doubtless came as servants in order to get their 50 acres each,and a warrant for that amount was granted Oct.6,1683.The land was located in Marple. Daniel Williamson and Mary Smith declared their intentions of marriage at Chester Monthly Meeting 7 mo.7,1685,and Robert Taylor and Thomas Pearson,Grace Stanfield and Ellen Coppock were appointed to make inquiry as to their clearness.On their second appearance,8 mo.5,1685, they were given liberty to accomplish their marriage. Issue: ROBERT,b.10 mo.3,1686;m.his cousin Hannah Coppock. DANIEL,b.8 mo.6,1688;m.Hannah,daughter of Randal Malin. JOHN,b.7 mo.11,1690;m.Sarah Smedley. MARY,b.7 mo.25,1692;m.Myrick Davies. THOMAS,b.10 mo.10,1694;m.Ann Malin,1714. JOSEPH,b.2 mo.25,1697;living in 1727. MARGARET,b.12 mo.12,1698;m.Joshua Thomson,of RidIey. ABIGAIL,b.7 mo.16,1702;d.12 mo.28,1775;m.John Yarnall and William Garrett. A patent was granted Jan.29,1684,to Thomas Rudyard for two tracts of 450 acres and 50 acres,in Newtown township.On July 15,1685,Rudyard conveyed the same land to Andrew Robeson,of Philadelphia,and he to Daniel Williamson,Nov.24,1692.The latter appears to have settled in Newtown and there remained till 1723,when he removed to Edgmont township,taking a certificate from Goshen to Chester Monthly Meeting, dated 4 mo.7,1723,in which he is spoken of as "having been a man for peace and Quietness among his ffriends and Neighbours;and also free and Liberall on Truth's account,and we are Loath to part with him but that we hope the altering of his Sircumstances may be for his more Comfortable satisfaction for the future;so we Recommend him unto you, thinking it not needfull to Enlarge because allready Known to you," &c. This was signed by thirty-one of the members. Application being made to the women's monthly meeting,7 mo.6,1723, for a certificate for Mary Williamson,to Chester,"this meeting thought that she most Propperly belonged to that meeting already." Hannah Yarnall,Mary Lewis and Mary Ashbridge were appointed to go to Chester Monthly Meeting to ascertain their view of the matter.They reported that Chester recognized her as their member.The following proceedings relate to the marriage of their eldest daughter,and show the spirit of the time.At Chester Monthly Meeting,11 mo.28,1711-2: Springfield friends have spoke with Mary Williamson at their preparative meeting about going to her Daughter's marridge that was married contrary to friends orders,& she seemed to be sorry for it & desired friends would bare with her a litell Longer,soe friends Letts it Rest to see what she will doe of her selfe. To the wemens months meeting held at Middeltown ye 31th of Ye 1st mo. 1772.Dear friends,Whareas I Contrary to the good order & Rules of Discipline Laid down amongst friends I have given my consent to the Marridge of my Daughter with one that is not of our society & also went to the marridge,to the Great Greef of faithfull friends & being Justly Condemned in my selfe Doe heerby Acknowledg my selfe Greatly to blame & do desire friends to Except of this my short & humbell Acknowledgment & I hope I shall for ye time to come be so Carefull yt I shall Give friends any Just occation & so I conclude desiring ye prayers of all faithfull friends for my preservation in the Blessed truth,which we make proffestion of. MARY WILLIAMSON. The will of Daniel Williamson,of Edgmont,is dated March 7, 1725-6, and proven March 8,1727-8,in which his wife and all his children are mentioned. Although John Williamson became a steady Friend and a minister later in life,the evidence shows that he was somewhat "frisky" in his earlier years.At Chester Monthly Meeting,held at Newtown,6 mo.30,1714,John Williamson appeared at this meeting and acknowledged himself to blame for running at a Horse Race at Chester faire,and is heartily sorry for it and hopes to never to do the like again." Tradition says that he paid his respects to one Priscilla Thomas as well as to Sarah Smedley,and had decided in favor of the former,but being at a vendue buying goods for housekeeping,Sarah came to him and said she should die if he married Priscilla.In some perturbation of mind John went to Priscilla to find out what to do about it.She advised him to marry Sarah,adding that it never should be said that she, PriscilIa,died for any man.It is further stated that a Maryland gentleman,hearing of the circumstance,and admiring Priscilla's independence,sought her hand in marriage.John Williamson was at this time an attender of Springfield Meeting.At the monthly meeting,at Providence,2 mo.25,1715- Springfield meeting complains against John Williamson for being one of the Chief acters in Dresing a man,Pretending him to be a dead man or Corps,at Daniel Calvert's,and bringing of him into the house to affright the People:he being by some of them there Reproved for it,and was asked how he would answer it to the monthly meeting:his Reply was, it was but Giveing in a paper,and they might Get a Box and Call it Williamson's Box:for which Presumptious action and slight answer this meeting taking into Consideration and appoints ffrancis Yarnall and George Ashbridge to speak with him to be at our next monthly meeting to answer the above complaint. For the Preservation of our Youth and others at the fair at Chester the meeting appoints Caleb Pusey,John Sharples,Tho' Vernon and William Swarford to attend the fair and report to next meeting of their care. At Middletown,3 mo.30,1715:John Williamson appeared and promised amendment,whereupon he was recommended to the care of Newtown Meeting, to which he desired to belong."The friends that were appointed to attend Chester faire in order for the Preservation of Youth,Reports Although there was some undesent or Disorderly Carriages by some that was there,yett in the maine they Believe they were of some servis." By deed of Sept.29,1713,Daniel Mrilliamson,of Newtown,yeoman "as well ffor the Consideration of the natural Love and affection that he hath and beareth Towards John Williamson of Newtown afforsd yeo.(third son of the sd Daniel),as also ffor and in Consideration of the full and Just sum of Seventy five pounds of good and current silver money of pensilvania." conveyed to the latter 315 acres of land in Newtown.This was a part of the 450 acres purchased from Andrew Robeson,and included 114 acres which had been laid out to Daniel Williamson as overplus land.As witnesses the names of Mary Williamson,Charles Brooks,Thomas Williamson and Mirick Davies appear.A memorandum was endorsed,that Peaceable & quiet possession and Seisin was had and taken by John Williamson,Feb.12,1713-4.This deed was not acknowledged or recorded, except that on Nov.27,1770,Abel Green affirmed as to the signature of Thomas Williamson,before H.H.Graham.Esq. By another deed,dated Dec.10,17I8,Daniel Williamson and Mary his wife convey to their son John Williamson,all of New Town,4 acres,100 perches additional land, adjoining the above.The witnesses were Thomas Williamson,Joseph Williamson and John Allin.Abel Green again affirmed as to the signature of Thomas Williamson,but the deed was not recorded. With the establishment of Goshen Monthly Meeting,in 1722,Newtown Meeting ceased to be a branch of Chester Monthly Meeting.At Goshen Monthly Meeting,4 mo.19,1732,the representatives of Newtown Meeting requested that John Williamson and Sarah his wife might be recommended to the meeting of ministers and elders.Lawrence Pearson and John Yarnall were appointed to prepare a few lines for that purpose.On 5 mo. 17,1732,the recommendation was produced,approved and signed.On 12 mo. 17,1734-5,Sarah Williamson laid before the meeting a concern she had felt to visit the meetings of Friends in New England and on Long Island.A committee was appointed to make inquiry and prepare a certificate for her use,which was signed 1 mo.10th.On 4 mo.16,1735,she produced a return certificate from the Yearly Meeting at Flushing,L.I., and one from the monthly meeting at Mamaroneck,N.Y.At the first session of Goshen Monthly Meeting,2 mo.6,1722,"Sarah Williamson is Chosen overseer of Newtown Meeting along with Lowry Lewis,Instead of Elizabeth Thomas."In this oHice she was succeeded by Esther Pearson,6 mo.4,1727. She and her husband were frequently appointed on committees to visit families and for other services. James Albin,of Newtown,tailor,and Jane his wife,by deed of Oct.14,1740,conveyed to John Williamson,of Newtown,yeoman,a messuage and 21 1/2 acres of land in that township,for Lb80 Visit The George Smedley Homepage http://smedley.lewis.home.att.net

    12/21/2009 02:50:13
    1. [PaOldC] A Holiday Genealogy Query for the Old Chester List
    2. Kim Spangrude
    3. Well said, well said, my friend. OK here is a change of subject: Dear List Members, During the holidays I am so always very busy preparing large family meals, making menus, compiling lists of who to invite including extended family and friends, who I will ask to bring side dishes, and where everyone will be seated. It is a busy but very fulfilling time of the year, and satisfying in terms of making memories and traditions for the young ones who are looking forward to the food and presents. My own memories always travel back to traditions my family had when I was a child, such as the traditional and thrift-conscious "eggless butterless milkless cake" that many generations of Townsend women, both Quaker and non-Quaker, made through the years. It makes me wonder what else was on the table of my ancestors, and who were invited to partake in the family meal, say in the year 1790, after the Revolutionary War when the country was young and there was much excitement to be had. A couple of years ago another list I belong to started a fun thread that went along these lines: If you could invite any of your deceased ancestors to your holiday gathering, 1) who would it be, 2) why would you invite this person in particular, and 3) what would you ask them that you have been wanting to know about them, or an aspect of their life? Just choose one ancestor and give a bit of background info (dates, places, spouse, children, why they may be a genealogical research mystery) when you answer the above question - then send it to the list. When I first took part in this a couple of years ago, it generated quite a bit of new information and was great holiday fun. I will contribute my answer after we all hear from some of you. Blessed holidays to all, Kim Townsend Spangrude On Dec 20, 2009, at 1:47 PM, Sandra Ferguson wrote: > Friends....as I said to you all earlier, my current health problem > dictates that I not upset myself unnecessarily at this time, but I > have > been made aware, personally, by several of you, that some are > unhappy with > the list leadership, etc....I am asking that you remember the > season and > act accordingly.......fingers crossed, I will again be up to my > 'fighting > weight' and able to once more be involved in one of my great > loves....genealogy.... When that day arrives I will visit the > archives, read > the old posts I have missed, and answer them accordingly. Till > then, as > always, post ONLY things that directly involve genealogy , and > help your > fellow listmembers with their research... is that so hard to do? For > goodness sake...it's Christmas! > > S.

    12/21/2009 12:04:14
    1. [PaOldC] My Brick Wall
    2. I don't think I have ever posted here but I may have awhile ago. I am researching the Minor family. My mother was Joan Rosemary Minor, daughter of Warren Xavier Minor & Helen Olson, born in Ridgeway and raised in Bradford, PA. Warren Xavier Minor born in Ridgeway, PA His father was a well-known architect and builder in that area named: William Henry Minor who was married to His father was Stephen/Stephenson Lesie Minor who was married to Rachel Crow who died of TB. Stephen's second wife was Mary Ann Chamberlain. He had 3 children by Rachel and 9 by Mary Ann Chamberlain, daughter of Jacob and MaryAnn Chamberlain. Stephenson was born Jan 10, 1820 and died in a barn raising accident on July 8, 1870 in Jefferson County, PA. One of his sons died 2 days later and we assume he was invovled in the accident also. Family lore says that Stephenson was from Scotland and others say he was born in PA. Another thought is that he might be the son of John Updike Minor and Rebecca Maxwell, but I have no proof of this. Are there any Minors here or does any of this sound familiar to anyone? Thanks for any help. Linda Hooker Lathrop

    12/20/2009 02:29:16
    1. Re: [PaOldC] [Williamson branch
    2. Susan Maddox
    3. Mary Ann - your information is very interesting - am sending you what I have as of now John Williamson d 1830 married Rebecca Chrisman 1798-1872 Their children were A)a daughter and B) a son C) Robert Barclay Williamson 1823-1900 - m Susan Quitner 1826-1899 Robert's children were  1) Annie Williamson d 1914 who married a Mashman 2) John P Williamson 1846-1900 who married Mary Mathilda Tyson 1848-1887 - my great great grandfather - P may stand for Phoenix since that was an uncle's middle name John P's children were Samuel Tyson Williamson  1868-1912 who married Emma Julia Carrio 1871-1936 - my great grandparents and  Susan Williamson 1873-1950 who married William Henry Swier, Jr 1867-1930 I have info on my line as well as on Susan's line from a relative I got in contact with 3)George A Williamson 1848-1914 4)Rebecca Williamson 1849-1914 who married Luskens, Robarts and Peterson 5)Jacob W Williamson 1855-1914 6) Lewis Williamson 1859-1914 who married Mary G b 1860     children      Mabel B Williamson 1855     Mary E Williamson 1888     Lottie May Williamson 1891     Annie M Williamson 1894     Lewis S Williamson 1896 7) Robert Williamson 1862-1914 married Annie Buckley This is what I am working on from wills and other information I have found - not totally sure of any but the info on Robert Barkley Williamson and the lines of John P and Susan brother and sister - still need to verify some - and want to go back further if I can find the missing link Sorry this turned to green - don't know what I hit to make it so and don't want to lose what I have written Susan Maddox in Macon GA ________________________________ From: Adam's Mom <[email protected]> To: Susan Maddox <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Sent: Sun, December 20, 2009 8:55:08 PM Subject: Re: [Williamson branch Hi Susan (and any other Williamson researchers), I may have connections, but I definitely have more questions.  I have a John P. born c. 1864 in Indiana County, and his uncle, John Penn Williamson, b 30 Oct. 1838-29 Jun 1862, also b. in Indiana County, part of my Hiram Williamson line from Delaware and Chester counties.  I have extensive descendant information on this line, but am trying to definitively connect Hiram farther back.  I also have a John, d 1804 at Londongrove, with sons David, Francis and John, and daughter Margaret, but have not connected this line anywhere yet. My primary Williamson line is one I am also trying to connect. Lutheran as of the 1791 marriage, but later Presbyterians, I have ggggreat-grandfather Hiram Williamson (1 Dec 1765-11 Dec 1843) who I am trying to connect as a son of James Williamson of Upper Darby Township, with neighbors Jonathan Evans and Joseph, Thomas and Samuel Kirk. There is a family story that young Hiram was a messenger boy for George Washington at Valley Forge.  While these stories are told all over the place, I wouldn't give it much credence, except for the bits and pieces I've found, which make me wonder if it is true, and confirming the connection with the right James is the key.   I have Hyram (Sp)  by himself in the 1790 census at Darby Twp., Delaware County.  On 31 Mar 1791, he marries Sarah Evans, daughter of Jonathan Evans and Sarah Kirk, granddaughter of Joseph Kirk and Ann Hood, (James Williamson's neighbors and all traceable in Darby Friends Meeting records when it was still part of Chester County.)  Hiram and Sarah's marriage is at St. Michael's & Zion Lutheran Church, Philadelphia, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania and recorded in the IGI extracted files and various genweb sites, but also in son William Williamson's family bible, which confirms the connection to my Indiana County, PA and Henry County Illinois family notes.  Jonathan Evans's will also confirms the Williamson connection, http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/delaware/wills/e/evans-j2.txt  and another daughter, Eunice, also married a Samuel Williamson. This wedding was Presbyterian, 28 Nov 1788, at  Third Presbyterian Church, Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.  I do not know what connection Samuel has, but have seen something that dissuades me from believing he is Hiram's brother.  He may, despite my doubts, be a brother, or more likely, a cousin. I have not had much luck tracing them further.   Hiram is buried in Indiana County, PA as a Revolutionary War Vet and one son, Hiram Jr., claimed Indiana county as his 1800 or 1801 birthplace.  Hiram is still in Upper Darby in the 1800 census, (with wife and three sons) however, not showing in the Indiana county census until 1820, and land records in the 1830s.  I have seen where someone referred to him as James Hiram Williamson, but received no explanation for the designation.  I have not seen his name in any Revolutionary War lists, but have James Williamson on a list of those who signed the Oath of Allegiance with George Washington at Valley Forge, http://colonialancestors.com/revolutionary/oath3.htm which lists him as a wagon conductor.  This James is not to be confused with Lieutenant James Williamson, with the 7 Pennsylvania Regiment, on page 10 of the same record.  Lt. James is ten years older than Hiram, too young to be his father, but again, possibly a cousin, or even an older brother.  I have not seen any will for James of Upper Darby or James the wagoneer, and cannot confirm that they are one and the same person, but if he is, and is Hiram's father, this would have put him in the encampment, making the possibility of the story true.  A bright lad with knowledge of the local roads and countryside would make young Hiram a likely choice to run messages when needed.  With the pieces I have here, can anyone shed further light on my little headbanger, either naming Hiram's parents or giving me another way to confirm these connections?  Thank you for your patience with my little book. In peace, MaryAnn Opet in Northern California The children of Hiram WILLIAMSON and Sarah EVANS are: 3.    i.    Jonathan WILLIAMSON, b. 14 Apr 1792, Darby, Delaware County, Pennsylvania; d. 1882, Darby, Delaware County, Pennsylvania. 4.    ii.    Eli WILLIAMSON, b. 5 Dec 1795, Delaware County, Pennsylvania; d. 17 Jun 1863, Western Twp., Henry County, Illinois. 5.    iii.    William G. WILLIAMSON, b. 16 Feb 1799, Huntingdon  or Delaware County, Pennsylvania; d. 1871, Indiana County, Pennsylvania. 6.    iv.    Hiram WILLIAMSON, b. 1 May 1800 or 1801,  Huntingdon or Delaware County, Pennsylvania; d. 27 Jul 1880, Near Orion, Henry County, Illinois. (this is my line) 7.    v.    Sarah WILLIAMSON, b. 18 Apr 1803, Indiana or Delaware County, Pennsylvania; d. 29 Mar 1886, Orion, Henry County, Illinois.     vi.    Joshua WILLIAMSON, b. Abt. 1809, Indiana County, Pennsylvania; d. Illinois. 8.    vii.    Mary WILLIAMSON, b. 14 Oct 1810, Indiana County, Pennsylvania; d. 29 Dec 1894, Illinois. On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Susan Maddox <[email protected]> wrote: One of my  family lines is Williamson - am trying to go back further - and wondered which of the Williamson lines yours was - mine is the non-Quaker line - were Presbyterian in the later years - My great-great -grandfather was John P Williamson - have 2 generations back from him - one being Robert - can't remember right now without looking it up - they were from Phoenixville in Chester Co - at least John P was >Susan > > > > ________________________________ From: Adam's Mom <[email protected]> >To: Rose Schaer <[email protected]> >Cc: [email protected] >Sent: Sun, December 20, 2009 6:37:26 AM >Subject: Re: [PaOldC] akins 1753-1818 > >(Kirk, Hood, Elliot, Mercer, Townsend, Baker, Yarnall, Johnson, >Hadley, Miller, Evans, Williamson, Clayton, Speakman, Dampman and Frescoln >just a few of my direct ancestors from early Chester or Delaware Counties) > > > >

    12/20/2009 11:38:21
    1. Re: [PaOldC] [Williamson branch
    2. Adam's Mom
    3. Hi Susan (and any other Williamson researchers), I may have connections, but I definitely have more questions. I have a John P. born c. 1864 in Indiana County, and his uncle, John Penn Williamson, b 30 Oct. 1838-29 Jun 1862, also b. in Indiana County, part of my Hiram Williamson line from Delaware and Chester counties. I have extensive descendant information on this line, but am trying to definitively connect Hiram farther back. I also have a John, d 1804 at Londongrove, with sons David, Francis and John, and daughter Margaret, but have not connected this line anywhere yet. My primary Williamson line is one I am also trying to connect. Lutheran as of the 1791 marriage, but later Presbyterians, I have ggggreat-grandfather Hiram Williamson (1 Dec 1765-11 Dec 1843) who I am trying to connect as a son of James Williamson of Upper Darby Township, with neighbors Jonathan Evans and Joseph, Thomas and Samuel Kirk. There is a family story that young Hiram was a messenger boy for George Washington at Valley Forge. While these stories are told all over the place, I wouldn't give it much credence, except for the bits and pieces I've found, which make me wonder if it is true, and confirming the connection with the right James is the key. I have Hyram (Sp) by himself in the 1790 census at Darby Twp., Delaware County. On 31 Mar 1791, he marries Sarah Evans, daughter of Jonathan Evans and Sarah Kirk, granddaughter of Joseph Kirk and Ann Hood, (James Williamson's neighbors and all traceable in Darby Friends Meeting records when it was still part of Chester County.) Hiram and Sarah's marriage is at St. Michael's & Zion Lutheran Church, Philadelphia, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania and recorded in the IGI extracted files and various genweb sites, but also in son William Williamson's family bible, which confirms the connection to my Indiana County, PA and Henry County Illinois family notes. Jonathan Evans's will also confirms the Williamson connection, http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/delaware/wills/e/evans-j2.txt and another daughter, Eunice, also married a Samuel Williamson. This wedding was Presbyterian, 28 Nov 1788, at Third Presbyterian Church, Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. I do not know what connection Samuel has, but have seen something that dissuades me from believing he is Hiram's brother. He may, despite my doubts, be a brother, or more likely, a cousin. I have not had much luck tracing them further. Hiram is buried in Indiana County, PA as a Revolutionary War Vet and one son, Hiram Jr., claimed Indiana county as his 1800 or 1801 birthplace. Hiram is still in Upper Darby in the 1800 census, (with wife and three sons) however, not showing in the Indiana county census until 1820, and land records in the 1830s. I have seen where someone referred to him as James Hiram Williamson, but received no explanation for the designation. I have not seen his name in any Revolutionary War lists, but have James Williamson on a list of those who signed the Oath of Allegiance with George Washington at Valley Forge, http://colonialancestors.com/revolutionary/oath3.htm which lists him as a wagon conductor. This James is not to be confused with Lieutenant James Williamson, with the 7 Pennsylvania Regiment, on page 10 of the same record. Lt. James is ten years older than Hiram, too young to be his father, but again, possibly a cousin, or even an older brother. I have not seen any will for James of Upper Darby or James the wagoneer, and cannot confirm that they are one and the same person, but if he is, and is Hiram's father, this would have put him in the encampment, making the possibility of the story true. A bright lad with knowledge of the local roads and countryside would make young Hiram a likely choice to run messages when needed. With the pieces I have here, can anyone shed further light on my little headbanger, either naming Hiram's parents or giving me another way to confirm these connections? Thank you for your patience with my little book. In peace, MaryAnn Opet in Northern California The children of Hiram WILLIAMSON and Sarah EVANS are: 3. i. Jonathan WILLIAMSON, b. 14 Apr 1792, Darby, Delaware County, Pennsylvania; d. 1882, Darby, Delaware County, Pennsylvania. 4. ii. Eli WILLIAMSON, b. 5 Dec 1795, Delaware County, Pennsylvania; d. 17 Jun 1863, Western Twp., Henry County, Illinois. 5. iii. William G. WILLIAMSON, b. 16 Feb 1799, Huntingdon or Delaware County, Pennsylvania; d. 1871, Indiana County, Pennsylvania. 6. iv. Hiram WILLIAMSON, b. 1 May 1800 or 1801, Huntingdon or Delaware County, Pennsylvania; d. 27 Jul 1880, Near Orion, Henry County, Illinois. (this is my line) 7. v. Sarah WILLIAMSON, b. 18 Apr 1803, Indiana or Delaware County, Pennsylvania; d. 29 Mar 1886, Orion, Henry County, Illinois. vi. Joshua WILLIAMSON, b. Abt. 1809, Indiana County, Pennsylvania; d. Illinois. 8. vii. Mary WILLIAMSON, b. 14 Oct 1810, Indiana County, Pennsylvania; d. 29 Dec 1894, Illinois. On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Susan Maddox <[email protected]> wrote: > One of my family lines is Williamson - am trying to go back further - and > wondered which of the Williamson lines yours was - mine is the non-Quaker > line - were Presbyterian in the later years - My great-great -grandfather > was John P Williamson - have 2 generations back from him - one being Robert > - can't remember right now without looking it up - they were from > Phoenixville in Chester Co - at least John P was > Susan > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Adam's Mom <[email protected]> > *To:* Rose Schaer <[email protected]> > *Cc:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Sun, December 20, 2009 6:37:26 AM > *Subject:* Re: [PaOldC] akins 1753-1818 > > (Kirk, Hood, Elliot, Mercer, Townsend, Baker, Yarnall, Johnson, > Hadley, Miller, Evans, Williamson, Clayton, Speakman, Dampman and Frescoln > just a few of my direct ancestors from early Chester or Delaware Counties) > > > >

    12/20/2009 10:55:08
    1. [PaOldC] List Rules and Thoughts
    2. Billie Gailey
    3. I have been a member of the list for some time. I have acquired some information that I got and have appreciated help from Sandra. I have posted a couple of times but have not received many responses and I thought that I might not have followed correct protocol. I have several lines that came through early Chester County (Clawson, Foulke, Minshall, Charlton, Funk). Since my ancestors were present in eight of the thirteen colonies in varied areas, I'm not devoted to any one list. Moreover, my time with genealogy is limited by the fact that I have to work for a living. Since the list seems to be at a crossroads right now, perhaps someone could address my questions. These questions would enhance my use of the list and may serve others. I'm asking: Exactly, what the rules for posting? What are the duties of the list administrator? Do I just Google the archives or is there a better method to access it? Once someone expresses interest in my question, should I answer he/her privately? If my questions have been recently asked, I apologize. Please bear in mind that everyone cannot read every post every day. Thanks for your consideration. (Ms.) Billie Gailey

    12/20/2009 09:23:54
    1. [PaOldC] for goodness sake, it's Christmas
    2. Sandra Ferguson
    3. Friends....as I said to you all earlier, my current health problem dictates that I not upset myself unnecessarily at this time, but I have been made aware, personally, by several of you, that some are unhappy with the list leadership, etc....I am asking that you remember the season and act accordingly.......fingers crossed, I will again be up to my 'fighting weight' and able to once more be involved in one of my great loves....genealogy.... When that day arrives I will visit the archives, read the old posts I have missed, and answer them accordingly. Till then, as always, post ONLY things that directly involve genealogy , and help your fellow listmembers with their research... is that so hard to do? For goodness sake...it's Christmas! S.

    12/20/2009 08:47:49
    1. Re: [PaOldC] for goodness sake, it's Christmas
    2. Adam's Mom
    3. Merry Christmas Sandra! While I am a very recent subscriber to the list, your name is connected with countless files that I have used in tracking my Chester county ancestors. You give a vast and detailed view of the county for those of us who have not had the chance to walk where our ancestors lived. The catalog of your work is an impressive, wonderful and essential treasure trove for anyone doing research in South-Eastern Pennsylvania. l can't thank you enough for all you have done, and I wish you good health, peace and a very happy New Year, In peace, MaryAnn Opet On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Sandra Ferguson <[email protected]> wrote: > Friends....as I said to you all earlier, my current health problem > dictates that I not upset myself unnecessarily at this time, but I have > been made aware, personally, by several of you, that some are unhappy with > the list leadership, etc....I am asking that you remember the season and > act accordingly.......fingers crossed, I will again be up to my 'fighting > weight' and able to once more be involved in one of my great > loves....genealogy.... When that day arrives I will visit the archives, > read > the old posts I have missed, and answer them accordingly. Till then, as > always, post ONLY things that directly involve genealogy , and help your > fellow listmembers with their research... is that so hard to do? For > goodness sake...it's Christmas! > > S. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    12/20/2009 08:02:39
    1. Re: [PaOldC] for goodness sake, it's Christmas
    2. Mildred Starr
    3. Sandra,  Happy Holidays and may Santa bring you good health for the new year. We miss you.  Millie --- On Sun, 12/20/09, Sandra Ferguson <[email protected]> wrote: From: Sandra Ferguson <[email protected]> Subject: [PaOldC] for goodness sake, it's Christmas To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, December 20, 2009, 12:47 PM   Friends....as I said to you all earlier, my current health problem dictates that I  not upset myself unnecessarily at this time, but  I have been made aware, personally, by several of you, that some are unhappy with the list leadership, etc....I am asking that you  remember the season and act accordingly.......fingers crossed, I will again be up to my 'fighting weight' and able to  once more be involved in one of my great loves....genealogy.... When that day arrives I will visit the archives, read the old posts I have missed, and answer them accordingly.  Till then, as always, post ONLY  things that directly involve genealogy ,  and help your fellow listmembers with their research...  is that so hard to do?  For goodness sake...it's Christmas!                                                                                           S. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/20/2009 07:24:55
    1. [PaOldC] A Holiday Query For the PA Old Chester List
    2. Kim Spangrude
    3. Well said, well said, my friend. OK here is a change of subject: Dear List Members, During the holidays I am so always very busy preparing large family meals, making menus, compiling lists of who to invite including extended family and friends, who I will ask to bring side dishes, and where everyone will be seated. It is a busy but very fulfilling time of the year, and satisfying in terms of making memories and traditions for the young ones who are looking forward to the food and presents. My own memories always travel back to traditions my family had when I was a child, such as the traditional and thrift-conscious "eggless butterless milkless cake" that many generations of Townsend women, both Quaker and non-Quaker, made through the years. It makes me wonder what else was on the table of my ancestors, and who were invited to partake in the family meal, say in the year 1790, after the Revolutionary War when the country was young and there was much excitement to be had. A couple of years ago another list I belong to started a fun thread that went along these lines: If you could invite any of your deceased ancestors to your holiday gathering, 1) who would it be, 2) why would you invite this person in particular, and 3) what would you ask them that you have been wanting to know about them, or an aspect of their life? Just choose one ancestor and give a bit of background info (dates, places, spouse, children, why they may be a mystery) when you answer the above question - then send it to the list. When I first took part in this a couple of years ago, it generated quite a bit of new information for the list and was great holiday fun. I will contribute my answer after we all hear from some of you. Blessed holidays to all, Kim Townsend Spangrude On Dec 20, 2009, at 1:47 PM, Sandra Ferguson wrote: > Friends....as I said to you all earlier, my current health problem > dictates that I not upset myself unnecessarily at this time, but I > have > been made aware, personally, by several of you, that some are > unhappy with > the list leadership, etc....I am asking that you remember the > season and > act accordingly.......fingers crossed, I will again be up to my > 'fighting > weight' and able to once more be involved in one of my great > loves....genealogy.... When that day arrives I will visit the > archives, read > the old posts I have missed, and answer them accordingly. Till > then, as > always, post ONLY things that directly involve genealogy , and > help your > fellow listmembers with their research... is that so hard to do? For > goodness sake...it's Christmas! > > S. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

    12/20/2009 07:09:18
    1. Re: [PaOldC] akins 1753-1818
    2. Adam's Mom
    3. Having been through this with so many branches in my trees, (just found my Alcorn cousins as both Alcom and Aleorn earlier today) one transcription error that may be a problem is one person's A looking like another's S. This gives you the possibility of a mistranscription as Skins, Skina, Shins or Shina. I have found my Frescoln/Freshcoln/Freshcorn/Frischkorn family as Preston, Freskin, Freese and at least 20 other variations beyond the four used in the family, and my Colkitt family? ROFL. I'm still trying to find what variations are possible there, as there are almost no transcriptions for the name. I can't google the Dimm family because there are computer parts with the same name. As I work through my tree, there are currently no Akins, but as I seem to have all my family lines through Chester County at the start, (Kirk, Hood, Elliot, Mercer, Townsend, Baker, Yarnall, Johnson, Hadley, Miller, Evans, Williamson, Clayton, Speakman, Dampman and Frescoln just a few of my direct ancestors from early Chester or Delaware Counties) we are undoubtably cousins of some degree. I hope this may give you another direction to continue the hunt. On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 8:17 AM, Rose Schaer <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks to all who have made comments. The list has been stirred, for > whatever reason it might have needed stirring. I have not had the > opportunity to have any helpful comments from Sandra since I haven't been > active myself for several years. I would like to say thanks again to Gail > Steckel for the help she gave me several years ago. > > As for "stuck" for brick wall, I grew up with a family named "Stuckey" > Stucke, Stucky being variations so we just have to be careful how we post. > I have certainly blown some posts over the years. > > Furthermore, as a reminder, spellings have changed, old documents are hard > to read, transcribers are human. My Michael Claver became Miychal Kleiber > and my Elizabeth Beals became Eliza Rails. And my today's posting is > anything: Aikins/Akins/Aikin/Akin/Aken/Achen and so on which is perhaps why > I can't find much about them in Pennsylvania. > > James Akins was born 1753 place unknown, died in Penn. & is buried at Old > Eagle School Cemetery in Tredyffrin, Chester County. If you run across this > family I would appreciate any help. I would like to find James' parents, > his wife's maiden name and who were their children. They had two known > sons: John Hamilton and Andrew who both went to Ohio and to Iowa. Other than > that I am "stuck." Thanks Rose > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    12/19/2009 08:37:26
    1. [PaOldC] list dissatisfaction
    2. Myself, I think enough has been said about the subject. Can we all just get along and let's get back to researching and helping each other. Enough said. Let's continue with the purpose of the list. Thanks fellow list members. Now get on with your research and start asking questions about who you are researching and please give approximate dates and locations of who you are searching for. When you just give their name, it is way too broad a subject to try to find them. So, if you give their name, approximate date of when they were living, where you think they lived if you know, their mother/father or siblings and other information about them, you will have a much better chance of someone being able to respond to your query. Dottie

    12/19/2009 06:48:54
    1. [PaOldC] Mahan prior to 1840 PA/MD
    2. Christina Martinez
    3. I am looking for my Mahan line prior to 1840. Given the birth dates of my great grandfather (b.1844)and his 2 brothers I figure his parents, Benjamin and Sarah, were married about 1840. They lived very near the PA/MD border north of Fair Hill Maryland. My great- grandfathers brother, William Reese Mahan(b.1842) died in MD. There are Mahan's in Chester Co. PA. from this period and the younger brother Benjamin Parker Mahan (b.1846)was listed as having been born in PA. and Census information lists fathers birthplace as PA. I believe the william who Married Elizabeth Garrett was probably "family". Would appreciate hearing from anyone who may have lines that tie in. Christina

    12/19/2009 05:13:32