There were only 5 in all of PA in the 1850 index; this is the oldest - it must be the son you mentioned: Name: John Mutchler Age: 39 Estimated birth year: abt 1811 Birth place: Pennsylvania Gender: Male Home in 1850 (City,County,State): Shamokin, Northumberland, Pennsylvania Page: 271 Roll: M432_804 John is 39, all in fam. b. PA Sarah is 36 Valentine 17 Mary 15 Allen 13 Rebecca 11 Emmanuel 6 Susan 4 William 2 -----Original Message----- From: Eric R. & Heather J. Shultz [mailto:sheaa@sunqwest.net] Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 11:25 PM To: PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACEN] Northumberland/1850/Mutchler Hi a lookup please for John Mutchler age abt 60 and his wife Susanna age abt 60. Living near Shamokin, Pa. I don't know where either of them were born. I know of two children John M. age abt 38 and Susan 37. Thanks in advance. Heather ==== PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== #2) To view completed census transcriptions online go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/inv/index.html Also, don't forget that the Ancestry Family Tree at Ancestry.com is FREE; someone may have already found your ancestors and put a tree online so take a minute to check it out. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx