First: Thanks to the list for helping. Liz found 1870, 2nd Enumeration, Philadelphia, and said: Joseph LOWMILLER 20 on South Street, living alone. Now I already had: 1880: Herman HARTUNG Self M Male W 40 GER Tavern GER GER Louisa HARTUNG Wife M Female W 34 PA GER GER Louisa HARTUNG Dau S Female W 6 PA GER PA Emma HARTUNG Dau S Female W 4 PA GER PA Mary HARTUNG Dau S Female W 3 PA GER PA Rose HARTUNG Dau S Female W 1 PA GER PA Chas. LOHMILLER Other S Male W 20 PA GER GER Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Family History Library Film 1255169 NA Film Number T9-1169 Page Number 12C I pressed a bit harder on the Joseph Lowmiller piece, by contacting Jane Hamilton, who found, living at the same house on South Street: Herman Hartemg PhilaWard 4 Dist 11 (2nd Enum), Phila, PA abt 1838 Louisa Hartemg Philadelphia Ward 4 Dist 11 (2nd Enum), Phila, PA abt 1844 What a coincidence! HARTUNG and HARTEMG, with the same first names! Yes, they had to be brothers (surely, not cousins...)! If anyone can send an image for that 1870, 2nd Enumeration, encompassing the HARTEMG entry, I would really appreciate getting that. Thanks! Vince Summers