Hello list! I have been able to get my hands on several old birth, death and marriage certificates for my family and thought I'd mention this. A lot of the "official" information is wrong or very different from what I was lead to believe! I thought I'd mention this because I have spent considerable money contacting various government agencies with what I believed to be the correct information, only to be told that there were no records. For example, and this was not uncommon for new immigrants, my father's birth certificate lists him as "Male Lopez". If I request his name "Joseph" and birthdate from the state, I would be told there were no records. Naming a child at the baptism was very common, so I suppose many of our lost relatives are listed as male, female, son or daughter! Heavy accents might make a difference on the census or other forms. My uncle was named "Ceasare". They called him "Chester", but with a heavy accent, it came off as "Esther" and he was listed as a daughter! Death certificates are great finds, but often, because of the stress of the situation, incorrect information is provided. On my grandfather's death certificate, his mother is listed with his wife's name including the maiden name. My father's death certificate lists his mother's maiden name as "Unknown" because my family didn't know how to spell the original Polish spelling. Often church records are very good, but you also have the problem that many church employees either don't have the time or can't read the old records well. If you can't find a record, but you know one should exist, keep trying. And don't be surprised if it's right under your nose! I hope the people on this great list take the opportunity, if they haven't already, to ask living relatives for documents, pictures and stories. I managed to be the one in the family to get the old pictures and spent a couple of days scanning them to cds. I have distributed them to other family relatives. Unfortunately, there are many faces who will remain nameless in the photos because no one labeled them! Call that elderly relative, bring a cake, and have a nice afternoon going over the family history before it's all gone! good luck with your searches! Lydia

Please look for Samuel and Esther Anna BUSH. I'm not sure that Samuel is the correct given name of the husband of Esther Anna. Esther or Hettie was living in Longswamp Twp in 1910 with Franklin and Susannah Gift, her son-in-law and daughter. She would be 49 years old and born in PA as well as her parents. Thanx. Kerm

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D2F46D602566E21D5FD07959 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------D2F46D602566E21D5FD07959 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from localhost ([199.224.89.154]) by catnip.epix.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050626233213.NYFN12746.catnip.epix.net@localhost>; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:32:13 -0400 Received: from ares.epix.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ares [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 25) with ESMTP id 03510-10; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:32:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists8.rootsweb.com (lists8.rootsweb.com [66.43.18.27]) by ares.epix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E6FD84; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:32:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists8.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.8) id j5QNTqwC000974; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:29:52 -0600 Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:29:52 -0600 X-Original-Sender: kermgoda@epix.net Sun Jun 26 17:29:51 2005 Message-ID: <42BF3A36.ECC1003E@epix.net> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:28:54 -0400 From: kerm goda <kermgoda@epix.net> X-Sender: "kerm goda" <kermgoda@out.epix.net> (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: PA-CENSUS <PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@ROOTSWEB.COM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.38 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 199.224.89.153 Resent-Message-ID: <T5A3vB.A.cO.wpzvCB@lists8.rootsweb.com> To: PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/27721 X-Loop: PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACEN] 1930/Schuylkill/STERNER X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at epix.net X-NAS-Classification: 0 X-NAS-MessageID: 1393 X-NAS-Validation: {66308FCE-0639-4DA7-AED3-9700A8CD8D92} X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Please look for Frank R. and Susanna STERNER. He would be 82 and she would be 66 years old. They were both born in PA. They were in West Penn Twp in the 1920 census. Thanx. Kerem ==== PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== #9) Don't forget your manners! We're all here to help one another. "Please" and "Thank You" make all the difference in the world! ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx --------------D2F46D602566E21D5FD07959--

Please look up the following individual in the 1900 and 1920 US Census: Thomas C. Treen, born in 1867 in England. Parents also born in England. In the 1910 Census: Thomas, and wife, Marie, age 36 (born in Maryland. Parents born in Germany) were living in Pleasantville, Atlantic County, New Jersey. They had been married 10 years and had no children. I requested a look-up in New Jersey, but the volunteers couldn't find him (them) there. I thought they might possibly be in NY or Pennsylvania instead. In 1890, Thomas lived at 319 W. Lehigh Avenue in Philadelphia with brothers Frederick S., John W., and Robert B. This was also the business address of Treen Brothers Photography. Thanks in advance, Bob George, Olympia, Washington

Would like to find this gentleman to learn what the age bracket is for the females of that year, I was given the name and the county name but this Liberty is with a Ward 6 or 7, Philadelphia, so I am unsure as to which is the county. Thank you, ruth

Please look for Frank R. and Susanna STERNER. He would be 82 and she would be 66 years old. They were both born in PA. They were in West Penn Twp in the 1920 census. Thanx. Kerem

Censuses prior to 1850 did not list names of spouses/children, only head of household. A search for O Hanl* yielded the earliest record of 1850 - O Hanlin A search for OHanl* yielded only one Name: Felix Ohanlin Township: Moyamensing County: Philadelphia State: Pennsylvania Roll: 490 Page: 49 Number of persons in household: View Image Ages of persons in household: View Image Occupation information: View image this household has 2 males under 5 one male 10-15 one male 20-30 one female under 5 2 females 5-10 one female 20-30 so it does not look like your Elizabeth could be in this family since she would have to be at least 15 in the 1840 in order to have had a child in 1842 -----Original Message----- From: joe moore [mailto:joemoore456@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 9:49 AM To: PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACEN] 1840/philadelphia/ elizabeth O hanlen Could SKS who has access to the 1840 Federal Census for Philly Please check this possible link to my family. Her husband was John Jones. In 1842 her daughter Rachel R. was born on 9/17/1842. So, I am searching in 1840 in hopes of catching her prior to her marriage. In Thank you, >Sincerely, Joe Moore ==== PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== #2) To view completed census transcriptions online go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/inv/index.html Also, don't forget that the Ancestry Family Tree at Ancestry.com is FREE; someone may have already found your ancestors and put a tree online so take a minute to check it out. ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Hi, Kerm! Name: George Sterner Home in 1900: District, Berks, Pennsylvania Age: 63 Estimated birth year: 1837 Birthplace: Pennsylvania Race: White Relationship to head-of-house: Head Image source: Year: 1900; Census Place: District, Berks, Pennsylvania; Roll: T623 1376; Page: 3B; Enumeration District: 15. Sterner, George, head, w, m, Mar 1837, 63, m, 35, Pa, PA, Pa, Engineer Plumber, owns home free of mortgage ", Maria, wife, f, w, April 1843, 57, M, 35, 11, 8, PA, PA, PA ", HAttie, dau, f, w, ?, 1886, 14, S, PA, PA, PA Lucy

Please look for George K. and Maria M. STERNER, probably in District Township. He would be 63 and she would be 57 years old and both were born in PA. Thanx. Kerm

Could SKS who has access to the 1840 Federal Census for Philly Please check this possible link to my family. Her husband was John Jones. In 1842 her daughter Rachel R. was born on 9/17/1842. So, I am searching in 1840 in hopes of catching her prior to her marriage. In Thank you, >Sincerely, Joe Moore

Would appreciate a lookup for Christopher CLOHERTY and all occupants of the house. I believe he was living at 614 N. 23rd St. with his wife, Mary, several daughters and possibly two sons, and two nieces in 1910 or possibly living on North St. in Phila. I would appreciate knowing his year of immigration and whether he was naturalized. Thank you very much for any information that you can supply. Marguerite

Hello Marguerite, Found this.. Renting at 614 North 23rd Street, no entries in Al/Na columns for both Christopher and Mary. Christopher Cloherty head 59 M 40 yrsIRE IRE IRE Emg 1847Boiler maker/Locomtive works Mary wife 59 M 40 yrs 13births/8 living IRE IRE IRE Emig 1849 Ellen dau 38 DE IRE IRE Catherine dau 30 PA IRE IRE Bookkepper/shoe fac Elizabeth dau 28 " Shoe operator/ shoe fac Anne dau 26 " """"" John son 24 " Boiler maker/Locomotive works Thomas son 17 PA IRE IRE William L. Childs son in law 33 M 3 yrs PA PA PA Foreman/ hook & eye comp Regena G. dau 22 M 3 yrs 1/1 PA IRE IRE Dorothy M. grand dau 1 8/12 PA PA PA Mary E. Maloney grand dau 7 PA IRE PA Jennifer In a message dated 6/26/2005 12:46:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, james.agnew@att.net writes: Would appreciate a lookup for Christopher CLOHERTY and all occupants of the house. I believe he was living at 614 N. 23rd St. with his wife, Mary, several daughters and possibly two sons, and two nieces in 1910 or possibly living on North St. in Phila. I would appreciate knowing his year of immigration and whether he was naturalized. Thank you very much for any information that you can supply. Marguerite

Hello: Would like to know the age brackets for the females. Thank you, ruth

Thank you Gail! All the info that I provided was from an obit - I'm trying to see if there's a connection to my Volpe's. thanks again. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Steckel" <gail@gregsteckel.com> To: <dustbunny55@comcast.net>; <PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 7:40 AM Subject: RE: [PACEN] 1930/Philadelphia/Volpe > Anthony 42, b. IT imm 1913 laborer manf. plant > Rose, 41 b. IT imm 1913 > Viola 16 stripper, cigar factory > Eleanor 15 > Lena 12 > Rita 10 > Frank 8 > Stella 5 > Albert 2 9/12 > kids all b. PA > (I did find a Nicholas with wife Cesira but the children don't match what > you've provided - the above family does) > > Name: Albert Volpe > Age: 2 > Estimated birth year: abt 1928 > Relation to head-of-house: Son > Father's Name: Anthony Volpe > Mother's Name: Rose Volpe > Home in 1930: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania > Family and neighbors: View Results > Occupation: View Image > Education: View Image > Military service: View Image > Rent/home value: View Image > Age at first marriage: View Image > Parents' birthplace: View Image > Owned a radio: View Image > Image source: Year: 1930; Census Place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, > Pennsylvania; Roll: 2110; Page: 6A; Enumeration District: 66; Image: 659.0 > > I also saw another Volpe family with an Albert, age 2 - it also has > daughters Lena and I think Rita.....due to the similarity in names, I > would > bet that Dominic Volpe is a brother of Anthony.... > > -----Original Message----- > From: dustbunny55@comcast.net [mailto:dustbunny55@comcast.net] > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 8:21 AM > To: PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PACEN] 1930/Philadelphia/Volpe > > Looking for: > Albert Volpe, 2/3 years old, born about 1928 in Philadelphia. Has a > brother > Frank (age unknown), sisters Eleanor & Rita (ages unknown) and parents > Nicholas & Theresa (ages unknown). This is all the information that I have > at this time. > Thank you, > Karen > > > ==== PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > #2) To view completed census transcriptions online go to: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/inv/index.html > Also, don't forget that the Ancestry Family Tree at Ancestry.com is FREE; > someone may have already found your ancestors and put a tree online so > take > a minute to check it out. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > >

Anthony 42, b. IT imm 1913 laborer manf. plant Rose, 41 b. IT imm 1913 Viola 16 stripper, cigar factory Eleanor 15 Lena 12 Rita 10 Frank 8 Stella 5 Albert 2 9/12 kids all b. PA (I did find a Nicholas with wife Cesira but the children don't match what you've provided - the above family does) Name: Albert Volpe Age: 2 Estimated birth year: abt 1928 Relation to head-of-house: Son Father's Name: Anthony Volpe Mother's Name: Rose Volpe Home in 1930: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Family and neighbors: View Results Occupation: View Image Education: View Image Military service: View Image Rent/home value: View Image Age at first marriage: View Image Parents' birthplace: View Image Owned a radio: View Image Image source: Year: 1930; Census Place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Roll: 2110; Page: 6A; Enumeration District: 66; Image: 659.0 I also saw another Volpe family with an Albert, age 2 - it also has daughters Lena and I think Rita.....due to the similarity in names, I would bet that Dominic Volpe is a brother of Anthony.... -----Original Message----- From: dustbunny55@comcast.net [mailto:dustbunny55@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 8:21 AM To: PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACEN] 1930/Philadelphia/Volpe Looking for: Albert Volpe, 2/3 years old, born about 1928 in Philadelphia. Has a brother Frank (age unknown), sisters Eleanor & Rita (ages unknown) and parents Nicholas & Theresa (ages unknown). This is all the information that I have at this time. Thank you, Karen ==== PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== #2) To view completed census transcriptions online go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/inv/index.html Also, don't forget that the Ancestry Family Tree at Ancestry.com is FREE; someone may have already found your ancestors and put a tree online so take a minute to check it out. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Looking for: Albert Volpe, 2/3 years old, born about 1928 in Philadelphia. Has a brother Frank (age unknown), sisters Eleanor & Rita (ages unknown) and parents Nicholas & Theresa (ages unknown). This is all the information that I have at this time. Thank you, Karen

Would appreciate a run down on the female age bracket. thank you, ruth

Elizabeth, Found them! Name: Josiah Bruner Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Age in 1870: 32 Occupation: Farm Laborer Birthplace: Pennsylvania Home in 1870: Walker, Juniata, Pennsylvania Post Office: Mifflintown Personal Estate Value $150 Roll: M593_1353 Page: 516 Image: 449 Year: 1870 In Household: Elizabeth 31 Mary M 9 Alice 7 Annie 5 Josephine 3 Charles 6/12 Teresa --- ewintr <ewintr@yahoo.com> wrote: > My apology, it should be Juniata Co. instead of > Perry Co. He married Elizabeth Crimmel December 16, a > 1858 in Juniata Co. I have no dates for him, nor any > children for them. Also, no parents/siblings for him. > > Very sorry for wrong Co, > Elizabeth > ===================================================== > > --- Teresa Delikat <flott_genealogy@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > Elizabeth, > > > > No Brunner showing in Perry County. Tried Bruner, > > 25 of them but none named Josiah. 39 Josiah but not > > with the surname Brunner or Bruner. > > > > I do find a 38 yr old Josiah Brunner, wife > > Catharine, Children Albert, Henry, John W., Sarah, > > William in Bedford County. > > > > Teresa > > > > > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:38:20 -0700 (PDT) > > > From: ewintr <ewintr@yahoo.com> > > > To: PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: 1870/Perry/Brunner, Josiah > > > > > > May I have a lookup please for Josiah H Brunner > in > > > Perry Co? He is probably in his early 30's. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > Elizabeth __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Thank you for the rapid response!! Now I would like to find him in 1850 to see his parents/siblings. Thanks again to all who do these lookups!! Elizabeth ================================================================= -----Original Message----- From: Gail Steckel <gail@gregsteckel.com> Sent: Jun 23, 2005 9:54 PM To: PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [PACEN] Re: 1870/Perry/Brunner, Josiah---correction of Co, should be Juniata Name: Josiah Bruner Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Age in 1870: 32 Birthplace: Pennsylvania Home in 1870: Walker, Juniata, Pennsylvania Family and neighbors: View Results Race: White Gender: Male Value of real estate: View Image Post Office: Mifflintown Roll: M593_1353 Page: 516 Image: 449 Year: 1870 Elizabeth 31 Mary M 9 Alice 7 Annie 5 Josephine 3 Charles 6/12 Josiah is a farm laborer, all are b. PA -----Original Message----- From: ewintr [mailto:ewintr@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:26 PM To: PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACEN] Re: 1870/Perry/Brunner, Josiah---correction of Co, should be Juniata My apology, it should be Juniata Co. instead of Perry Co. He married Elizabeth Crimmel December 16, 1858 in Juniata Co. I have no dates for him, nor any children for them. Also, no parents/siblings for him. Very sorry for wrong Co, Elizabeth ===================================================== --- Teresa Delikat <flott_genealogy@yahoo.com> wrote: > Elizabeth, > > No Brunner showing in Perry County. Tried Bruner, 25 > of them but none named Josiah. 39 Josiah but not > with > the surname Brunner or Bruner. > > I do find a 38 yr old Josiah Brunner, wife > Catharine, > Children Albert, Henry, John W., Sarah, William in > Bedford County. > > Teresa > > > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:38:20 -0700 (PDT) > > From: ewintr <ewintr@yahoo.com> > > To: PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: 1870/Perry/Brunner, Josiah > > > > May I have a lookup please for Josiah H Brunner in > > Perry Co? He is probably in his early 30's. > > > > Thank you, > > Elizabeth > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com ==== PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== #4) Remember: our purpose is to help one another in our genealogy quest. If you have resources you can consult that may help someone, please contribute! ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx ==== PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== #2) To view completed census transcriptions online go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/inv/index.html Also, don't forget that the Ancestry Family Tree at Ancestry.com is FREE; someone may have already found your ancestors and put a tree online so take a minute to check it out. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Name: Josiah Bruner Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Age in 1870: 32 Birthplace: Pennsylvania Home in 1870: Walker, Juniata, Pennsylvania Family and neighbors: View Results Race: White Gender: Male Value of real estate: View Image Post Office: Mifflintown Roll: M593_1353 Page: 516 Image: 449 Year: 1870 Elizabeth 31 Mary M 9 Alice 7 Annie 5 Josephine 3 Charles 6/12 Josiah is a farm laborer, all are b. PA -----Original Message----- From: ewintr [mailto:ewintr@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:26 PM To: PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACEN] Re: 1870/Perry/Brunner, Josiah---correction of Co, should be Juniata My apology, it should be Juniata Co. instead of Perry Co. He married Elizabeth Crimmel December 16, 1858 in Juniata Co. I have no dates for him, nor any children for them. Also, no parents/siblings for him. Very sorry for wrong Co, Elizabeth ===================================================== --- Teresa Delikat <flott_genealogy@yahoo.com> wrote: > Elizabeth, > > No Brunner showing in Perry County. Tried Bruner, 25 > of them but none named Josiah. 39 Josiah but not > with > the surname Brunner or Bruner. > > I do find a 38 yr old Josiah Brunner, wife > Catharine, > Children Albert, Henry, John W., Sarah, William in > Bedford County. > > Teresa > > > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:38:20 -0700 (PDT) > > From: ewintr <ewintr@yahoo.com> > > To: PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: 1870/Perry/Brunner, Josiah > > > > May I have a lookup please for Josiah H Brunner in > > Perry Co? He is probably in his early 30's. > > > > Thank you, > > Elizabeth > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com ==== PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== #4) Remember: our purpose is to help one another in our genealogy quest. If you have resources you can consult that may help someone, please contribute! ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx