Clinton is a county in PA. There is no Edward Grove in it in 1930. There are a handful of Edward Grove's in PA in that time frame but more info is needed to decide which is the right one. -----Original Message----- From: mc55johnson@juno.com [mailto:mc55johnson@juno.com] Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:06 AM To: PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACEN] 1930-Unknown -GROVE Hi List, Could I please have a lookup for Edward Grove and family in Clinton,Pa.for 1930?I don`t know the county Clinton is in.Thanks, Claude ==== PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== #7) To UNSUBSCRIBE: If you belong to the "L" list, send a new email to pa-census-lookup-l-request@rootsweb.com; put the word "unsubscribe" in both the subject line and message body (without the quotes!). If you belong to the "D" list, do the same thing but instead send it to pa-census-lookup-d-request@rootsweb.com. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

The Joseph E. Mayer in Bucks / 1930 is listed b. PA and parents b. England. FYI here is the index entry: Name: Joseph E Mayer Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1900 Birthplace: Pennsylvania Relation to head-of-house: Head Spouse's Name: Ada May Mayer Race: White Image source: Year: 1930; Census Place: Morrisville, Bucks, Pennsylvania; Roll: 2008; Page: 13A; Enumeration District: 41; Image: 86.0. -----Original Message----- From: jeanie stout [mailto:msjbostian@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 5:24 PM To: gail@gregsteckel.com Subject: Onestar 1930 Dear Gail Thank you for sending attachment. When I open it nothing show up??? The birth date from it is good. Any way can you please send the data of were in 1930 census is Joseph E Mayer in Bucks county. I would love to look at the image on hertiagequest. If I had the serial row page etc numbers I can check it out and see who living near by etc. Thank you so much. Jeanie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I have posted, recently, about Chief Joe One Star a number of times. Well his names appear to be coming forth, and they appear to be mounting. I am hoping someone will be able to come up with that 1930 Bucks Image of him I requested. It seems to be him. Here's why I say so: Joe One Star b September 17, 1900. Indian. Consort: Ada Mary - later buried as Onestar, born 1897. I was alerted to the fact that an Eaglebath Onestar is listed for WWI. And guess his birthdate? September 17, 1898. Now does it sound like he faked the year to get in the army for WWI? And the 1930 I seek has Joseph E. MAYER or MAYES aged 30. Ada Mary aged 33. For those two, the birth years would have been 1900 and 1897, respectively! And look at that E between Joseph and Mayer! So I think he is Joseph Eaglebath Mayer Onestar, Chief! Please, if possible, send that 1930 Bucks County census image. Thanks!!! Vince Carbon Copying my Cousin

Hi List, Could I please have a lookup for Edward Grove and family in Clinton,Pa.for 1930?I don`t know the county Clinton is in.Thanks, Claude

For 1930, I see: Bucks County, Morrisville, ED 41, Sheet 13A (it's stamped 41) Joseph E. Mayer age 30 – PA – England – EnglandAda May (or Mary) Mayer age 33 – PA – PA – PAClaire Mayer age 6 3/12 – PA – PA – PA He worked on the RR doing Electrical work. I would like to know if anyone can find Joseph E. MAYER, aged20, in Bucks County? I just can't help but think the Englandbusiness is incorrect. I was hoping it would say Indian! Thanks, Vince

I now have been given a possible lead! A hot one. Chief Joe One Star was involved with Ada Mary. This was given to me tonight, and is a tantalizing possibility. Can anyone give me the image? 1930 Joseph E. Mayer, age 30 - PA-England-England Ada May (or Mary), age 33 - PA-PA-PA Claire, age 6-3/12 - PA-PA-PA He worked on the RR doing Electrical work. The age is correct for both Joseph and Ada. The place of birth of the parents is the only tester - for Joseph. But even so, it is possible either something was off there, or there is some explanation. The final point will be where this Joseph E. Mayer was in 1920. And/or 1910. Time will tell... Vince On 8/18/05, Gail Steckel <gail@gregsteckel.com> wrote: > The only Lonestar/ Lone Star I see in 1930 are all in OK. > > I did see a WWI draft registration for an Eaglebath Onestar, who lived in > Montgomery Co........ > > -----Original Message----- > From: jeanie stout [mailto:msjbostian@yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 6:52 PM > To: PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PACEN] 1930 ????? LONESTAR > > > I have done a tad of research on the Indians on the Indian list rolls on > line. > > The name might be LONESTAR. > > 1911 Indian rolls > Joseph Lone Star on rolls in Carlisle Indian School > > Lone Star Dietz > John H. Lone Star > William Lone Star > > 1910 > Frank LONESTAR in Indian school in Carlisle age 19 born in Wisconsin > Chippewa Indian. > > > There are so few Lonestars could you please do a search of just this name > and see what you can find in 1930. > Thank you Jeanie > > > > --------------------------------- > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > > ==== PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > #9) Don't forget your manners! We're all here to help one another. > "Please" and "Thank You" make all the difference in the world! > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > > ==== PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > #9) Don't forget your manners! We're all here to help one another. "Please" and "Thank You" make all the difference in the world! > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

The only Lonestar/ Lone Star I see in 1930 are all in OK. I did see a WWI draft registration for an Eaglebath Onestar, who lived in Montgomery Co........ -----Original Message----- From: jeanie stout [mailto:msjbostian@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 6:52 PM To: PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACEN] 1930 ????? LONESTAR I have done a tad of research on the Indians on the Indian list rolls on line. The name might be LONESTAR. 1911 Indian rolls Joseph Lone Star on rolls in Carlisle Indian School Lone Star Dietz John H. Lone Star William Lone Star 1910 Frank LONESTAR in Indian school in Carlisle age 19 born in Wisconsin Chippewa Indian. There are so few Lonestars could you please do a search of just this name and see what you can find in 1930. Thank you Jeanie --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ==== PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== #9) Don't forget your manners! We're all here to help one another. "Please" and "Thank You" make all the difference in the world! ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

I see several in PAbut none in Berks and none within 3 yrs of that age; do you have any more info? -----Original Message----- From: kerm goda [mailto:kermgoda@epix.net] Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 4:41 PM To: PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACEN] 1900/Berks/?STERNER Please look for James STERNER, age about 53 years and born in PA. Both his parents were born in PA also. Thanx. K ==== PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== #0) To transcribe a census please volunteer at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/map.htm ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Given the proclivity of extended families to live in the same area at the time, plus the practice of passing on family first names, it is not at all unusual to find two people with the same name, and close birthdates, living in close proximity to one another. They could very well be cousins. That is more likely than someone being enumerated twice, especially given the different marital situations. -----Original Message----- From: Roxanne [mailto:maigheach@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 4:11 AM To: PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACEN] Enumerated twice? How frequently did it happen that someone was accounted for twice in the census? I think I may have found an uncle who was counted twice in 1900. He is listed as living at home at age 21, but then is also listed as being married, living not too far away with his wife. Yes, I suppose it could be two different people.... but the birthdates match up so closely.... Roxanne Baird __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail for Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail ==== PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== #4) Remember: our purpose is to help one another in our genealogy quest. If you have resources you can consult that may help someone, please contribute! ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Vince, I think I found a most interesting possibility Bucks County, PA Morrisville Joseph E. Mayer, age 30 - PA-England(there is something written on top that I can not read)-England Ada May (or Mary), age 33 - PA-PA-PA Claire, age 6 3/12 - PA-PA-PA He worked on the RR doing Electrical work. After finding this family I checked to see the age of Ada in the SSDI and low and behold she was born in 1897 - making her 3 years older than Joseph One Star. So I ask you is it a coincidence that the Joseph and Ada found in Bucks County in 1930 are 3 years apart with Ada being 3 years old - or what? I think this could be who you are looking for! I'll send the image..... Regina >From: "Vincent E. Summers" <vsummers@gmail.com> >To: PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PACEN] 1930 Chief Joseph One STAR Bucks PA >Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:19:00 -0400 > >Chief Joseph One Star had to have been included in the census, >somewhere, sometime. It is probably a near impossible task to >find him with what little I know about him. However, just in case... > >He professed (and there is no reason to doubt it) to have been >an Oklahoma Cherokee. His wife, Ada Mary URIAN, later was >buried in Gloucester City, Camden County, NJ, as Ada M. One >Star. SSDI lists her as Ada Onestar (one word). > >Joseph attended Carlisle Indian School, and that would have >put him in Pennsylvania. During the later 1940's, he was in >Blue Anchor, NJ. But likely for 1930, he would have been in >Pennsylvania - most likely Bucks County. > >He lived: September 17, 1900 until August 19, 1957. > >At one point, perhaps in the 1950's, he lived in or near >Haycock Mountain. With Ben SURKET possibly. > >My guess, then, as to how to find him, say for 1930, would be >to search for someone: > >Born OK. >Native American. >Given Name: Joseph. >Aged 29-30. >Location: PA - Bucks > >If anyone can find him, it would be too, too much! > >Thanks, >Vince Summers > > >==== PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== >#6) Our "volunteers" are simply listmembers who take the time to do lookups >to help other listmembers. They do not sign up to be 'volunteers.' Please >try not to exceed the one post per day limitation. > >============================== >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Please look for James STERNER, age about 53 years and born in PA. Both his parents were born in PA also. Thanx. K

I have done a tad of research on the Indians on the Indian list rolls on line. The name might be LONESTAR. 1911 Indian rolls Joseph Lone Star on rolls in Carlisle Indian School Lone Star Dietz John H. Lone Star William Lone Star 1910 Frank LONESTAR in Indian school in Carlisle age 19 born in Wisconsin Chippewa Indian. There are so few Lonestars could you please do a search of just this name and see what you can find in 1930. Thank you Jeanie --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page

Chief Joseph One Star had to have been included in the census, somewhere, sometime. It is probably a near impossible task to find him with what little I know about him. However, just in case... He professed (and there is no reason to doubt it) to have been an Oklahoma Cherokee. His wife, Ada Mary URIAN, later was buried in Gloucester City, Camden County, NJ, as Ada M. One Star. SSDI lists her as Ada Onestar (one word). Joseph attended Carlisle Indian School, and that would have put him in Pennsylvania. During the later 1940's, he was in Blue Anchor, NJ. But likely for 1930, he would have been in Pennsylvania - most likely Bucks County. He lived: September 17, 1900 until August 19, 1957. At one point, perhaps in the 1950's, he lived in or near Haycock Mountain. With Ben SURKET possibly. My guess, then, as to how to find him, say for 1930, would be to search for someone: Born OK. Native American. Given Name: Joseph. Aged 29-30. Location: PA - Bucks If anyone can find him, it would be too, too much! Thanks, Vince Summers

1870>SCHUYKILL>BARRY TWP Derr, Henry 33, everyone born PA, laborer Catharine (I think) 21 or 24, Benjamin 5 Amelia 2

for the archives ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Heller Zinn" <djzinn@pa.net> To: "Jennifer Lugus" <jhl1188@optonline.net> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [NYCEN] Looking for Martha & Frederick & Earl CLARK in Pawling, NY > Hello Jennifer! > > I didn't have this information! I really don't know why - 'cause this is > my > neck of the woods!? > > This is my persons in question! So they were living in Cumberland Co., > Pennsylvania in 1900? I wonder when they moved to Pawling???? I have a > 1914 Cumberland County Directory and neither Martha or Frederick are > listed > in it. > > THANK YOU so much for your generosity! This is great! > > I hope to be able to repay you some day! Anyone in your families from > Perry > County, Pennsylvania? > Donna > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jennifer Lugus" <jhl1188@optonline.net> > To: "Donna Heller Zinn" <djzinn@pa.net>; <NY-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 11:12 AM > Subject: Re: [NYCEN] Looking for Martha & Frederick & Earl CLARK in > Pawling, > NY > > >> Hello Donna, >> You didn't mention which census you needed, so I started with the 1900. >> This seems close with regard to ages, names, however says Fred was born > IA. >> and perhaps you already have this.. >> >> CLARK, FRED (1900 U.S. Census) >> PENNSYLVANIA , CUMBERLAND, W PENNSBORO TWP >> Age: 32, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: PA >> Series: T623 Roll: 1401 Page: 258 >> >> 141 Creek Road >> Cyrus Moyer Head 1/1849 51 Wd PA PA PA Farmer >> Fred Clark Boarder 10 1868 31 M 4yrs IA NY IA Day laborer >> Martha wife 7/1872 27 M 4 yrs 1/1 PA PA PA >> Earl son 7/1897 2 PA PA PA >> >> Jennifer >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Donna Heller Zinn" <djzinn@pa.net> >> To: <NY-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 10:53 AM >> Subject: [NYCEN] Looking for Martha & Frederick & Earl CLARK in Pawling, > NY >> >> >> > Am searching for Martha E. BROWNAWELL CLARK who died after 1930 and is >> > buried in Pawling, New York. She was born in 1872 in Cumberland Co., >> > Pennsylvania to David C. and Ida Elizabeth LONG BROWNAWELL. She was >> > married in 1896 in Carlisle, Cumberland Co., PA to Frederick CLARK. >> > Frederick CLARK was born in 1868 to Ira and Lizzie CLARK. >> > >> > Martha and Frederick have at least one son, Earl D. CLARK who was born > in >> > 1899 and was a Pastor/Reverend. >> > >> > The only info that I have as far as an approximate Death Date is that >> > Martha died after 1930 in the Carlisle Hospital, Cumberland Co., PA. >> > and >> > she was to be taken back to Pawling for burial.... So I would presume > that >> > she and Frederick and Earl would have lived there. >> > >> > Thanks in advance for any help! It will be most gratefully accepted!! >> > >> > Donna Heller Zinn of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. >> > >> > >> > >> > ==== NY-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== >> > Please use meaningful subject lines: (YEAR/COUNTY/SURNAME)If you reply > to >> > a Digest article change the subject line to something >> > meaningful. >> > >> > ============================== >> > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >> > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >> > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> > >> >

Could I please have a look up for Benjamin Derr b- 1865 some where in PA? I think Schuylkill County. There also should be a sister Matilda b- 1869. Father was Henry age about 40 in 1870 There could be different spellings for Derr also. Thank you Tonya

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Lugus" <jhl1188@optonline.net> To: "Donna Heller Zinn" <djzinn@pa.net>; <NY-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [NYCEN] Looking for Martha & Frederick & Earl CLARK in Pawling, NY Hello Donna, You didn't mention which census you needed, so I started with the 1900. This seems close with regard to ages, names, however says Fred was born IA. and perhaps you already have this.. CLARK, FRED (1900 U.S. Census) PENNSYLVANIA , CUMBERLAND, W PENNSBORO TWP Age: 32, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: PA Series: T623 Roll: 1401 Page: 258 141 Creek Road Cyrus Moyer Head 1/1849 51 Wd PA PA PA Farmer Fred Clark Boarder 10 1868 31 M 4yrs IA NY IA Day laborer Martha wife 7/1872 27 M 4 yrs 1/1 PA PA PA Earl son 7/1897 2 PA PA PA Jennifer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Heller Zinn" <djzinn@pa.net> To: <NY-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 10:53 AM Subject: [NYCEN] Looking for Martha & Frederick & Earl CLARK in Pawling, NY > Am searching for Martha E. BROWNAWELL CLARK who died after 1930 and is > buried in Pawling, New York. She was born in 1872 in Cumberland Co., > Pennsylvania to David C. and Ida Elizabeth LONG BROWNAWELL. She was > married in 1896 in Carlisle, Cumberland Co., PA to Frederick CLARK. > Frederick CLARK was born in 1868 to Ira and Lizzie CLARK. > > Martha and Frederick have at least one son, Earl D. CLARK who was born in > 1899 and was a Pastor/Reverend. > > The only info that I have as far as an approximate Death Date is that > Martha died after 1930 in the Carlisle Hospital, Cumberland Co., PA. and > she was to be taken back to Pawling for burial.... So I would presume that > she and Frederick and Earl would have lived there. > > Thanks in advance for any help! It will be most gratefully accepted!! > > Donna Heller Zinn of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. > > > > ==== NY-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > Please use meaningful subject lines: (YEAR/COUNTY/SURNAME)If you reply to > a Digest article change the subject line to something > meaningful. > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Roxanne writes: >How frequently did it happen that someone was accounted for twice in the census? I think I may have found an uncle who was counted twice in 1900. He is listed as living at home at age 21, but then is also listed as being married, living not too far away with his wife. Yes, I suppose it could be two different people.... but the birthdates match up so closely....< My 2nd great-grandaunt, Almira, was enumerated in the home of her parents in 1850. Almira was also enumerated in the town across the river in the home of her older sister, Harriet, and Harriet's children. Harriet's husband was enumerated in the County Jail. Dean

How frequently did it happen that someone was accounted for twice in the census? I think I may have found an uncle who was counted twice in 1900. He is listed as living at home at age 21, but then is also listed as being married, living not too far away with his wife. Yes, I suppose it could be two different people.... but the birthdates match up so closely.... Roxanne Baird __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail for Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail

Hi Cindy, Considered them but wasn't sure if they were the parents. I'll check around for them... Jennifer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <bluesmom@comcast.net> To: "Jennifer Lugus" <jhl1188@optonline.net> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [PACEN] question > Thanks so much Jennifer. It sounds as though Margaret's parents were > living in the same household as Margaret, William and the children in > 1870 > . I wonder if Walter died. He isn't on the 1880 census. What a large > family > ! They probably considered themselves blessed with all those boys. > Thanks again Jennifer for any information you can find on Williams family > & > his father. > > Cindy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jennifer Lugus" <jhl1188@optonline.net> > To: "Cindy" <bluesmom@comcast.net>; <PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:17 PM > Subject: Re: [PACEN] (PACEN) question > > >> Cindy, >> >> Not to make the name change more complicated, but here's a name to add to >> the list, from the 1870...appears to be them...Could not make out the 73 > yr >> olds name, best I could figure..will look at the 1860.. >> >> SHRIVER, WILLIAM (1870 U.S. Census) >> PENNSYLVANIA , ALLEGHENY, SHALER TWP >> Age: 38, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: PA >> Series: M593 Roll: 1299 Page: 419 >> All born PA >> >> William 38 Cooper $125.00/ all born PA >> Margaret 33 Keeping house >> David H. 13 >> Nancy 11 >> John 8 >> Charles 3 >> Walter 2 >> Selena 2/12 born in May >> Corrah? Sellers male 73 Gentleman >> Elizabeth Sellers female 68 Boarding >> >> Jennifer >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Cindy" <bluesmom@comcast.net> >> To: <PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 11:42 AM >> Subject: [PACEN] (PACEN) question >> >> >> > Hello List, >> > >> > I would very much appreciate some expertise help in finding the parents > of >> > William Schriber. Our line's name was changed by John J Schriber's son >> > Robert David, to Schrieber. This is the information I have thus far. > As >> > of the 1880 census William and his wife Margaret (Sellers) Schriber > were >> > enumerated in the Allegheny - Shaler -District 86 area.The census >> > states >> > he and his wife and children as well as their parents were born in >> > Pennsylvania. I don't have access to any other census. I thought maybe >> > William might show up with his parents in his early years such as 1840 >> > census forward. Maybe someone has access to marriage records for that >> > area. I have hit a brick wall with my resources. Help! Please! >> > >> > William age 49 dob abt 1831 >> > Margaret 43 wife >> > David H 22 son >> > Nancy 20 daughter >> > John J 18 son dob 2 Jun 1862 dod 31 Mar 1932 >> > Charles A 13 son >> > Saline C 9 daughter >> > Edwin N 7 son >> > Richard T 5 son >> > Robert P 3 son >> > William 4 or 9/12 son >> > >> > Thank You, >> > Cindy Schrieber >> > >> > >> > >> > ==== PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== >> > #0) To transcribe a census please volunteer at: >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/map.htm >> > >> > ============================== >> > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >> > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >> > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >> > >> >