Richard, On 3 July you enquired about the birth of Frederick BARTRAM in Oxford around 1829. I haven't seen any other reply, so this is the little that I have found. There was only one BARTRAM family in Oxford at that time. They were Robinson, a victauller, his wife Mary, and their 9 children living in St.Martin's parish: From the OFHS transcript of the poarish register:- BARTRAM Mary Ann 1812 Oct. BARTRAM Benjamin Rob 1813 Oct. BARTRAM Thomas 1815 Sept. BARTRAM Mary 1817 May BARTRAM William 1818 Nov. BARTRAM Ann Sutton 1820 March BARTRAM Eliza 1821 Sept. BARTRAM Esther 1825 July BARTRAM Henry 1828 July As you can see, there was no Frederick baptised in Oxford. In the wider index to baptisms in the County, there are nhese entries: To Peter Notley & Anne at Islip, Oxfordshire: BARTRAM Anne Notley 1836 To Peter Nottley & Elizabeth at Abingdon St.Helen, Berkshire. BARTRAM George Nottley 1839 BARTRAM Maria Ann 1839 BARTRAM Elizabeth 1843 BARTRAM Clementina 1844 BARTRAM Ann 1847 BARTRAM Emma 1847 BARTRAM Frederic Peter 1847 BARTRAM Henry Reginald 1853 Peter Notley BARTRAM was a shoe manufacturer born in Nettlebed, Oxfordshire. Could the Frederic Peter baptised in 1847 be your Frederick? Regards, Howard On 03/07/2012 19:36, crgoulden@aol.com wrote: > > As Oxford is a large city, I wonder if the name of Frederick BARTRAM will strike a chord in listers' memories. All I know about him is that he was born around 1829 in Oxford. He managed the Kentish Faversham mercury between 1860 and 1863, giving up its management due to ill-health. He probably earlier was involved in newspaper production. > > Richard Goulden > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Oxfordshire FHS "wills library" is at http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ , > with references to 47,347 people and 3,980 testators. Can you offer a will? > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Glancing at censuses, the only Frederick Bartram I see in most of them who was born about that time gave his birthplace as Stamford, Lincolnshire, & appeared in the 1841-51 censuses living there. But in the 1861 census, both he and the one in Faversham are shown. Frederick Peter in Abingdon is aged 5 in the 1851 census. It's hard to see how he could get away with adding 17 years to his age in 1861, or be running a newspaper aged 14, but in the 1881 census he turns up as a clothier in Warwick, giving his place of birth as Abingdon, with a wife (6 years older) from Oare, Kent - which is just outside Faversham. Curiouser & curiouser. On 12-Jul-12 6:43 AM, Howard Fuller wrote: > Richard, > > On 3 July you enquired about the birth of Frederick BARTRAM in Oxford > around 1829. I haven't seen any other reply, so this is the little > that I have found. > > There was only one BARTRAM family in Oxford at that time. They were > Robinson, a victauller, his wife Mary, and their 9 children living in > St.Martin's parish: > > From the OFHS transcript of the poarish register:- > BARTRAM Mary Ann 1812 Oct. > BARTRAM Benjamin Rob 1813 Oct. > BARTRAM Thomas 1815 Sept. > BARTRAM Mary 1817 May > BARTRAM William 1818 Nov. > BARTRAM Ann Sutton 1820 March > BARTRAM Eliza 1821 Sept. > BARTRAM Esther 1825 July > BARTRAM Henry 1828 July > > As you can see, there was no Frederick baptised in Oxford. > > In the wider index to baptisms in the County, there are nhese entries: > > To Peter Notley & Anne at Islip, Oxfordshire: > BARTRAM Anne Notley 1836 > > To Peter Nottley & Elizabeth at Abingdon St.Helen, Berkshire. > BARTRAM George Nottley 1839 > BARTRAM Maria Ann 1839 > BARTRAM Elizabeth 1843 > BARTRAM Clementina 1844 > BARTRAM Ann 1847 > BARTRAM Emma 1847 > BARTRAM Frederic Peter 1847 > BARTRAM Henry Reginald 1853 > > Peter Notley BARTRAM was a shoe manufacturer born in Nettlebed, > Oxfordshire. > > Could the Frederic Peter baptised in 1847 be your Frederick? > > Regards, > Howard > > > > On 03/07/2012 19:36, crgoulden@aol.com wrote: >> As Oxford is a large city, I wonder if the name of Frederick BARTRAM will strike a chord in listers' memories. All I know about him is that he was born around 1829 in Oxford. He managed the Kentish Faversham mercury between 1860 and 1863, giving up its management due to ill-health. He probably earlier was involved in newspaper production. >> >> Richard Goulden >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Oxfordshire FHS "wills library" is at http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ , >> with references to 47,347 people and 3,980 testators. Can you offer a will? >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Oxfordshire FHS "wills library" is at http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/ , > with references to 47,347 people and 3,980 testators. Can you offer a will? > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >