Bob if you cannot find anyone to do this for you it is worth asking Oxhist (use link at bottom of page on the Alfred Joy pamphlet) if it can be copied and if so the cost. In my experience their prices per page/sheet are fair and the service is excellent regards Wendy -----Original Message----- From: D Taylor Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:45 AM To: bob@theideafactory.co.uk ; oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OXF] Henry Hicks & Thomas Joy 1850s Oxford Thank you Wendy and Bob for your input,both of which I'll try and follow up on. Regarding Wendy's suggestion that Alfred Joy may have gone to Australia is interesting. I looked up the Heritage Search as suggested and it seems that Alfred Joy wrote a dairy,a copy of which is held by Oxford Heritage This could perhaps answer my query as to what happened to the family tailoring business in that he has given his reason for moving from Oxford to Melbourne. As I live in Derbyshire and as such it is difficult for me to look at this diary is there some kind soul out there who could have a look for me? Regards Peter Taylor Glossop On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Bob Cowley <bob@theideafactory.co.uk> wrote: > There is still of course one Hicks wholesale greengrocery business in > Oxford. (Unless my memory is playing tricks, I think there were two retail > shops until about 20 years ago.) > > Cheers, > > Bob Cowley > --------------- > > On Sep 16 2012, D Taylor wrote: > >>I wonder if some one can shed some light onto a mystery concerning two >>branches of my family living in Oxford between the 1851 and 1861 >>census returns? >> >>The first is a Henry Hicks whose father, Paul Hicks a grocer in >>Oxford, died in 1839 leaving his business to him. >>This is reflected in the 1841 and 1851 census returns. >>The 1861 census has him in the workhouse where he spent the rest of >>his life until his death in1893. >> >>The second concerns Henry Hicks' cousin, Thomas Joy,whose father >>William Joy (Henry Hicks' uncle) died in 1847. >>William Joy was a tailor and son Thomas,together with his brother >>Alfred,took over the family business. >>This is reflected in the 1851 census. >>The 1861 census has Thomas,no longer a tailor,living in London. >>The 1871 census has him as a temporary clerk at a Post Office in London. >>No sign of Alfred >> >>Is it just a coincidence that these two businesses failed or did >>something happen in Oxford during this period to cause a down turn in >>the economy? >>The effects of the Crimea War perhaps? >> >>Peter Taylor >>Glossop >>Derbyshire >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>OFHS Open Day - 6 October at Woodstock. >> >> See www.ofhs.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from >> the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with >> the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of >> the message > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > OFHS Open Day - 6 October at Woodstock. > > See www.ofhs.org.uk > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OFHS Open Day - 6 October at Woodstock. See www.ofhs.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message