Hi Lorraine The first name for his wife is Sivell Not found a definite marriage but there was on new familysearch James Roberts England Marriages, 1538-1973 marriage: 22 Jul 1821 -Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England spouse: S. Harvey record title: England Marriages, 1538-1973 groom's name: James Roberts bride's name: S. Harvey marriage date: 22 Jul 1821 marriage place: Old Church,Saint Pancras,London,England indexing project (batch) number: M04793-1 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 598186 And from Pallots Name: Sivell Harvey Spouse: Jas Roberts Marriage Date: 1821 Parish: St. Pancras Which lends some weight to it I also noticed a Mary HARVEY age 60 next schedule in 1841 And the following may be of interest (no dates of birth unfortunately Address 7 Fitzroy Place Father a Sawyer Name: William Roberts Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1839 Baptism Date: 5 Jun 1839 Father's name: James Roberts Mother's name: Sivell Roberts Parish or Poor Law Union: Christ Church, Albany Street Borough: Camden Three on the same day Address 7 Fitzroy Place Father a Sawyer Name: Elizabeth Sivell Roberts Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1848 Baptism Date: 26 Jan 1848 Father's name: James Roberts Mother's name: Sivell Roberts Parish or Poor Law Union: Christ Church, Albany Street Borough: Camden Name: Joseph James Roberts Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1848 Baptism Date: 26 Jan 1848 Father's name: James Roberts Mother's name: Sivell Roberts Parish or Poor Law Union: Christ Church, Albany Street Borough: Camden Name: William Henry Roberts Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1848 Baptism Date: 26 Jan 1848 Father's name: James Roberts Mother's name: Sivell Roberts Parish or Poor Law Union: Christ Church, Albany Street Borough: Camden Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hello List, > > I am new to this list and hope someone else maybe researching my ROBERTS > family. I have James ROBERTS b. 1785, Lower Heyford, Oxon, James married an > unknown "Sivill" in London and their children were born in various parts of > London. Wendy Archer was kind enough to do a look-up and has since given me > James parents as Thomas ROBERTS and Mary. Thanks. > > Lorraine > > Ontario, Canada

Hi The image of the marriage register entry is available on Ancestry Her name is indexed as Sicell and as she made her mark I think her name may have been Ce(with an accent)cile or Cicelle. Mike in Droitwich my family tree http://mjfisher.tribalpages.com Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi Lorraine > > The first name for his wife is Sivell > > Not found a definite marriage but there was on new familysearch > > James Roberts > England Marriages, 1538-1973 > marriage: 22 Jul 1821 -Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England > spouse: S. Harvey > record title: England Marriages, 1538-1973 > groom's name: James Roberts > bride's name: S. Harvey > marriage date: 22 Jul 1821 > marriage place: Old Church,Saint Pancras,London,England > indexing project (batch) number: M04793-1 > system origin: England-ODM > source film number: 598186 > > And from Pallots > > Name: Sivell Harvey > Spouse: Jas Roberts > Marriage Date: 1821 > Parish: St. Pancras >

Hi Mike Well spotted I thought I had checked all the variants but missed that I also found her Baptism as Name: Sivwell Harvey Baptism Date: 16 Oct 1796 Parish: St James, Clerkenwell County: Middlesex Borough: Islington Parent(s): John Harvey, Mary Harvey Record Type: Baptism (image also on Ancestry) And it does look like Sivwell but its very faint on the page I would disagree about the name being Cicelle though, I think its Sivell Perhaps a variant of Sybil but whilst Sivell is not exactly common there are a few around , it could also be a surname perhaps and used as a forename, there are some males with Sivell as a middle name Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi > > The image of the marriage register entry is available on Ancestry > Her name is indexed as Sicell and as she made her mark I think her name > may have been Ce(with an accent)cile or Cicelle. > > Mike in Droitwich

Like Nivard, I'd go with Sivell. William ROBERTS was baptised at St Pancras 16 June 1822 to James ROBERTS (sawyer) and Sivvell (or Sivvill), of Tottenham Place. Another William ROBERTS was baptised at Christ Church, Albany Street, on 5 June 1839 to James ROBERTS (sawyer) and Sivell (or Sivill), of 7 Upper Fitzroy Place. The 1841 census, also in Upper Fitzroy Place, St Pancras, shows her as Sivell ROBERTS. As SIVELL is a recognised surname, perhaps its use as a first name derives from that? HTH Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike in Droitwich The image of the marriage register entry is available on Ancestry Her name is indexed as Sicell and as she made her mark I think her name may have been Ce(with an accent)cile or Cicelle. Mike in Droitwich my family tree http://mjfisher.tribalpages.com Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi Lorraine > > The first name for his wife is Sivell > > Not found a definite marriage but there was on new familysearch > > James Roberts > England Marriages, 1538-1973 > marriage: 22 Jul 1821 -Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England > spouse: S. Harvey > record title: England Marriages, 1538-1973 > groom's name: James Roberts > bride's name: S. Harvey > marriage date: 22 Jul 1821 > marriage place: Old Church,Saint Pancras,London,England > indexing project (batch) number: M04793-1 > system origin: England-ODM > source film number: 598186 > > And from Pallots > > Name: Sivell Harvey > Spouse: Jas Roberts > Marriage Date: 1821 > Parish: St. Pancras >