Chris I'm guessing that the value of the shares was found out before probate was granted. That the stamps were applied by a broker. The fee may have been the broker's charge for handling the transactions, some of which may not have a charge having been paid to the broker by the company. Derek > -----Original Message----- > From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:oxfordshire- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Chris Howes > Sent: 03 December 2011 22:53 > To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [OXF] Administration > > Thanks Michael and Wendy ... > > I'd presumed that the fee that looked like it was paid when the stamp was > applied was some form of duty payable to transfer the stock to Lillian, to > cover the cost of amending the record. But two factors still bother me: > > That the dates are so close together that there would have been no time to > post the document to company A, receive it back and post it to B, and so on > ... > > And that if this is probate and the administration has been concluded, why > was this being done *after* completion; if the value of the shares was part > of the administration (which I assume it must have been), then why was there > a charge made to transfer the shares after everything was paid over. In > other words, would not the administration be expected to have covered the > costs of transfer? I feel like I'm missing something here. > > Chris > > > I have certainly encountered this. At death or marriage' the > > certificate in question had to be posted to the Company > > Registrar who confirmed that they had seen and amended their > > record with the colourful use of a rubber stamp > > > > Michael Allbrook > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Interactive Oxfordshire parish map: > http://searches.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/pardata.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message

Mike, Derek ... That helps, thanks both. I'm starting to get a feel for this. Given that I know the date of transfer and the names of the companies, of which some may be trading still (perhaps ... though not likely many of any; I haven't checked), but not how many shares were involved (nothing tells me that - only a company name), is there any means of finding this out? Were holdings routinely listed anywhere centrally that would either answer enquiries or else are still consultable as public documents? I could obviously start on county libraries (though some of these are foreign holdings) and see if there is anything deposited, but that feels like a long shot. I'm well into an area of commerce of which I know nothing at all. Thanks again Chris > I'm guessing that the value of the shares was found out > before probate was granted. That the stamps were applied by > a broker. The fee may have been the broker's charge for > handling the transactions, some of which may not have a > charge having been paid to the broker by the company. Derek >

I sincerely doubt that you will be able to discover anything other than through the Will and through the probate records The people who might have information are the Solicitors who handled probate Michael -----Original Message----- From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Chris Howes Sent: 04 December 2011 10:11 To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OXF] Administration Mike, Derek ... That helps, thanks both. I'm starting to get a feel for this. Given that I know the date of transfer and the names of the companies, of which some may be trading still (perhaps ... though not likely many of any; I haven't checked), but not how many shares were involved (nothing tells me that - only a company name), is there any means of finding this out? Were holdings routinely listed anywhere centrally that would either answer enquiries or else are still consultable as public documents? I could obviously start on county libraries (though some of these are foreign holdings) and see if there is anything deposited, but that feels like a long shot. I'm well into an area of commerce of which I know nothing at all. Thanks again Chris > I'm guessing that the value of the shares was found out before probate > was granted. That the stamps were applied by a broker. The fee may > have been the broker's charge for handling the transactions, some of > which may not have a charge having been paid to the broker by the > company. Derek > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Interactive Oxfordshire parish map: http://searches.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/pardata.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message