Dear Nigel, > I am looking for Abel born about 1830 somewhere in Oxford, possible father > John. It may help people answer your question if you say why you think there is such a person - what evidence do you currently have? And have you managed to find Abel Chalk in any of the censuses? And when you say "Oxford", do you mean the city of Oxford, or perhaps the county of Oxfordshire? Best wishes Paul -- Paul Betteridge, Leafield, Oxfordshire pbetteridge@pobox.com