The report doesn't mention the child's name, but the birth of an Ada Sims COLES was registered in Woodstock Reg. District June Qtr. 1867 3a 660 which sounds as if it could have been her with SIMS as a second Christian name. Woodstock covers Deddington. On the 1871 census Ada would appear to be in Whitwood, Yorkshire, aged 3, a niece to John COMPTON 47, a Coal Miner, & his wife Keziah 46 ( nee REEVES ). If you think this is connected to your family research, contact me direct & my wife & I will try to help further. Kind Regards, Mick -----Original Message----- From: mvs <mvs5@westnet.com.au> To: oxfordshire <oxfordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 7:34 Subject: [OXF] Illegitimate child:- COLES & SIMS ( 1868 ) Is the child's name mentioned anywhere? Marcelle -----Original Message----- From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ironbark Studio Sent: Tuesday, 6 March 2012 4:59 AM To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OXF] Illegitimate child:- COLES & SIMS ( 1868 )

Posssibly by using a Money Order. Originally devised in 1792 but were expensive. However prices were reduced in 1836 when another company took over. Finally in 1838 the Post Office took over making the system more profitable by reducing prices and therefore increasing usage. The main problem was the need to send an advance to the paying Post Office before payment could be made. This was overcome ny the introduction of the Postal Order on 1 Jan 1881. Hope this helps. It's all from Wikipaedia. Regards PAUL. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hollis" <jbhollis@btinternet.com> To: <oxfordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [OXF] Illegitimate child:- COLES & SIMS ( 1868 ) > Bearing in mind this was 1868 and the father was in Birmingham - I wonder > how this weekly payment would have been made? > > Any thoughts? > > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > MICHAELCOOMBER@aol.com > Sent: 01 March 2012 22:36 > To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [OXF] Illegitimate child:- COLES & SIMS ( 1868 ) > > >>From Jackson's Oxford Journal, Saturday, March 14, 1868; Issue 5994. > > PETTY SESSIONS. > WOOTTON NORTH DIVISION. - Deddington, March 6. > Before Rev. W. C. RISLEY , and Charles Cottrell DORMER and H. C. RISLEY , > Esqrs. > Harriett COLES , of Deddington, charged Joseph Farmer SIMS , of > Birmingham, > with being the father of an illegitimate female child. SIMS did not > appear, but wrote a letter to Harriett COLES , in answer to one from her > sister Mrs. Caroline DAWSON , to the effect that he had not the means of > coming to Aynho by train, but would willingly allow her 2s 6d a week > towards maintaining the child if she would put him to no further expense. > The Bench ordered him to pay 2s 6d per week. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Interactive Oxfordshire parish map: > http://searches.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/pardata.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4844 - Release Date: 03/01/12 > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Interactive Oxfordshire parish map: > http://searches.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/pardata.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bearing in mind this was 1868 and the father was in Birmingham - I wonder how this weekly payment would have been made? Any thoughts? John -----Original Message----- From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MICHAELCOOMBER@aol.com Sent: 01 March 2012 22:36 To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [OXF] Illegitimate child:- COLES & SIMS ( 1868 ) >From Jackson's Oxford Journal, Saturday, March 14, 1868; Issue 5994. PETTY SESSIONS. WOOTTON NORTH DIVISION. - Deddington, March 6. Before Rev. W. C. RISLEY , and Charles Cottrell DORMER and H. C. RISLEY , Esqrs. Harriett COLES , of Deddington, charged Joseph Farmer SIMS , of Birmingham, with being the father of an illegitimate female child. SIMS did not appear, but wrote a letter to Harriett COLES , in answer to one from her sister Mrs. Caroline DAWSON , to the effect that he had not the means of coming to Aynho by train, but would willingly allow her 2s 6d a week towards maintaining the child if she would put him to no further expense. The Bench ordered him to pay 2s 6d per week. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Interactive Oxfordshire parish map: http://searches.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/pardata.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4844 - Release Date: 03/01/12

>From Jackson's Oxford Journal, Saturday, March 14, 1868; Issue 5994. PETTY SESSIONS. WOOTTON NORTH DIVISION. - Deddington, March 6. Before Rev. W. C. RISLEY , and Charles Cottrell DORMER and H. C. RISLEY , Esqrs. Harriett COLES , of Deddington, charged Joseph Farmer SIMS , of Birmingham, with being the father of an illegitimate female child. SIMS did not appear, but wrote a letter to Harriett COLES , in answer to one from her sister Mrs. Caroline DAWSON , to the effect that he had not the means of coming to Aynho by train, but would willingly allow her 2s 6d a week towards maintaining the child if she would put him to no further expense. The Bench ordered him to pay 2s 6d per week.

>From Jackson's Oxford Journal, Saturday, March 14, 1868; Issue 5994. WATLINGTON DIVISION. - Watlington, March 7. Before Colonel FANE , M.P., A.H.C. BROWN, Esq., F.E.S.VIRET , Esq., and the Rev. C. V. SPENCER. George ING , of Lewknor, was charged with being the father of the illegitimate of Ellen WHITE , of Lewknor; settled out of court. Frederick GREEN , of Stokenchurch, farmer, was charged by Frederick ING , of Beacon's Bottom, with riotous, violent, and indecent behaviour in the Primitive Methodist Chapel, at Beacon's Bottom, on the 24th of February; fined 1pound 15 shillings and costs 1pound 5shillings; paid.

From London Evening Post ( London, England ), November 21, 1752 - November 23, 1752; Issue 3911.   A few Days since died at Oxford, the Rev. Mr. COKER , by whose Death a considerable Fortune falls to his Brother, Mr. COKER , a Brewer, at Isleworth.

>From Jackson's Oxford Journal ( Oxford, England ), Saturday, October 11, 1800; Issue 2476. MARRIED. The Rev. Thomas STREATFIELD , of Long Ditton, to Miss CHAMPION , of Winchester Street.

Dear Tony, > The engineering dynasty was founded in a sense by James Hall Nalder, farmer > and amateur engineer, of Home Farm, Alvescot (now called Shill House, I > believe). He patented an adjustable corn screen. While browsing last night, I found that James Hall Nalder senior was often involved with one of his sons in things like foreign exhbitions, patents, etc. Just as his father seems to have seen himself as a farmer who did a bit of engineering, his sons, from quite an early age, seem to have been associated with some of the incidents of agriculture - the societies and shows, for example - even though they were primarily engineers. Doubtless there were sound business reasons for this alongside an inherited interest. > He had four sons: Thomas > (c.1836 to 1899) engineer, William (c1839 to 1903) company secretary, and > two other brothers. I also found that for a period - from 1870 to 1875, based on the advertising in Jackson's Oxford Journal, James Hall Nalder junior operated an agricultural engineering business too, at Great Haseley. He was living there in 1871, indeed. He acquired this business, since he always referred to it date of foundation (1844) and previous owner (G. Billing). This James seems to have called himself an artist at all other times. > William's son Edward died in 1968 and was the last > Nalder involved with the Challow-based firm established by Thomas and > William. > ... How did the Nalders come to move from Alvescot to Challow? Best wishes Paul -- Paul Betteridge, Leafield, Oxfordshire pbetteridge@pobox.com

Many thanks, Alan, but I'm after Nalders rather than Nadlers. All the best, Tony -- Tony Hadland www.hadland.net Oxfordshire, England

Dear Paul, That's most useful - many thanks. Here's what I have already: The engineering dynasty was founded in a sense by James Hall Nalder, farmer and amateur engineer, of Home Farm, Alvescot (now called Shill House, I believe). He patented an adjustable corn screen. He had four sons: Thomas (c.1836 to 1899) engineer, William (c1839 to 1903) company secretary, and two other brothers. William's son Edward died in 1968 and was the last Nalder involved with the Challow-based firm established by Thomas and William. The solicitor connection is interesting, as there is a long-established firm of solicitors in Cornwall called Nalders. I must sit down and put the jigsaw together now! Thanks again, Tony -- Tony Hadland www.hadland.net Oxfordshire, England

Dear Tony, > I should be interested to hear from anybody who has researched the NALDER > family of Alvescot and Challow. Partcularly interested in finding a link > between the founders of the engineering firm Nalder& Nalder of Challow, > near Wantage and Charles Nelm NALDER, who lived at Challow Court, Furze > Platt, Maidenhead from at least 1912 until 1940. I have not researched the family, but I can tell you that Charles was born in Challow, in 1861-1862, according to various censuses. Unfortunately, he seems to have been boarding at school in 1871, so it isn't easy to identify his parents that way. In 1881 Charles was a lodger at a house in Notting Hill, as was a widowed James H Nalder (an artist), aged 48, born in Alvescot. Once again, there is no explicit relationship between these two. There seem to be three male Nalders in the Challows in 1861. Only one was married at the time of the census - James, aged 28 (an artist). One of the others, Thomas (who was one of the 2 engineers) married later in 1861 in Alvescot. Since Thomas was married on 24 October 1861 (at Alvescot, to a Jane Allnutt), and had a daughter baptised in East Challow on 20 October 1862, it would be uncharitable, let us say, to suppose Charles was his son. So James looks the most likely father, and Charles Nelme Nalder is then the nephew of the engineers. Charles's birth is in FreeBMD in September quarter, 1861, too - before Thomas's marriage. The West Challow register seems to be as yet untranscribed. James Hall Nalder (artist) married Martha Anne Allnutt on 23 October 1860. (Another Allnutt and on almost the same date.) In the Alvescot register, the father's name for both James Hall Nalder and Thomas Nalder was given as James Hall Nalder, yeoman. And finally, when the younger James Hall Nalder died in 1886 (after a lingering illness, according to Jackson's Oxford Journal), his will was proved by his son and executor Charles Nelme Nalder, solicitor. I haven't yet found where "Nelme" comes from. Best wishes Paul -- Paul Betteridge, Leafield, Oxfordshire pbetteridge@pobox.com

All The next meeting of the Oxfordshire Family History Society will take place on Monday 27 February 2012 at the usual venue at Exeter Hall, Oxford Road, Kidlington, Oxford OX5 1AB. Doors open at 7.15pm for coffee, help with both genealogy and computers, and the bookstall, exchange journals and the library. The subject of the talk is "The Wise in Heart Should be Called Prudent – Oxfordshire friendly societies". This will be presented by Shaun Morley. This presentation about friendly societies will explore these nineteenth century organisations that were present in almost every village and in towns. They were local in nature, and a very high proportion of men from the labouring classes belonged to them, meaning many of our ancestors experienced the conviviality they offered, and the sickness insurance they provided. The "red letter" day in village communities was the club day, a celebration for the whole community. The location of extant records of use to family historians will also be discussed. Our speaker, Shaun Morley, is a recently retired senior Police officer with Thames Valley Police who is due to complete his DPhil with the University of Oxford this year. He teaches weekly classes, at summer school and on the MSc programme for the University. He is also the author of "‘Oxfordshire Friendly Societies 1750-1918", which was published last December by the Oxfordshire Record Society. Shaun will be selling copies of this splendid book at the meeting, and it will become available to purchase on our society's bookstall shortly thereafter. All members, potential members and their guests are welcome. For directions as to how to get to the Exeter Hall, please see :- http://www.ofhs.org.uk/ExeterHall.html For a list of future OFHS meetings, please see :- http://www.ofhs.org.uk/meetings.html Any queries, please contact me. Paul Gaskell Publicity Officer Oxfordshire Family History Society www.ofhs.org.uk

Nadler is listed by Goons alongside Needle -----Original Message----- From: oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:oxfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tony Hadland Sent: 22 February 2012 08:45 To: oxfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [OXF] NALDER I should be interested to hear from anybody who has researched the NALDER family of Alvescot and Challow. Partcularly interested in finding a link between the founders of the engineering firm Nalder & Nalder of Challow, near Wantage and Charles Nelm NALDER, who lived at Challow Court, Furze Platt, Maidenhead from at least 1912 until 1940. Tony -- Tony Hadland www.hadland.net Oxfordshire, England ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Interactive Oxfordshire parish map: http://searches.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/pardata.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OXFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I should be interested to hear from anybody who has researched the NALDER family of Alvescot and Challow. Partcularly interested in finding a link between the founders of the engineering firm Nalder & Nalder of Challow, near Wantage and Charles Nelm NALDER, who lived at Challow Court, Furze Platt, Maidenhead from at least 1912 until 1940. Tony -- Tony Hadland www.hadland.net Oxfordshire, England

>From Jackson's Oxford Journal, Saturday, October 4, 1845; Issue 4823. MARRIED. At St. Pancras Church, Mr. G. CHAD , perfumer, of Preston, Middlesex, to Elizabeth, third daughter of the late Mr. WALTERS , grocer, of this city.

>From Jackson's Oxford Journal, Saturday, March 22, 1800; Issue 2447. Last week died at Headington, near this city, Mrs. Arabella SLADE , relict of the late R. SLADE , Rector of Westwell, in this county, and sister of Major GOODENOUGH , and George Frenchard GOODENOUGH , Esq., Commissioner of Taxes. On Monday the 17th inst. died, at his house in St. Aldgate's, in his 70th year, Mr. William PLATER , formerly Brush Maker in this City, but who had declined business some years.

I am trying to find where my Grandfather George Henry Green was buried or if he was cremated.He died at Acland nursing home in 1943. He was a dentist and had a practice in Witney from 1931 and was also a farmer. He built up a herd of Jersey cattle which he sold in 1942 not long before he became ill. He lived at Witney then Holly Court Farm North Leigh then very briefly at Brailes before his death. I hoped to find some info in the Witney Gazette but copies are not available for that year.I have phoned numerous vicars etc but still not found record of him. Does anyone know what would generally happen to patients at Acland. There are no records from there available.My father was 9 when he died and does not have any recollections. Thank you for any help.

>From Jackson's Oxford Journal, Saturday, April 26, 1823; Issue 3652. To Coopers, Cabinet Makers, etc. R. HUMPHRIS , Swan Inn, Banbury, most respectfully informs the trade and the public that he has received a fresh supply of MEMEL and QUEBEC STAVES, and WAINSCOT OAK, which he is determined to sell at the lowest possible prices, for ready money. April 25, 1823.

Message from our Chairperson Hello Everyone, Just my usual reminder that our monthly meeting is next Monday 20th February at 7.15pm. Our speaker this month is Howard Benbrook and he will be telling us about researching Surnames and how they can be very localised.  He will also tell us about one-name studies and what motivates people to take on this task. Hope you can come along.   And.... just to let you know.  In April it will be our Annual Meeting when we elect our Branch Committee.  If you interested in joining the Committee, please let me know either by email or at next Monday's meeting.   The current Committee are still happy to continue but additional members would be most welcome.     Best wishes, Vanessa   P.S. The raffle will be back!  Sue Matthews Programme Secretary Vale of the White Horse Branch Berkshire Family History Society

Hi all Another batch of 40+ wills is about to be released to the web-site. The surnames involved appear below. Dave Beames -- Coordinator BOX BROUGHTON BULL BUTTLE CLISBY GUY HENWOOD JUGGINS KEATE KIRTLAND LAMLEY LEAKE LONG MARSHALL MARTIN MEAD MERRICK NASH NEWELL NOBLE NORMAN PARISH SAUNDERS STEVENSON TAYLOR WILLIAMS